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TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 12:36pm On Sep 21, 2022
As a standard, requests for renewals can be submitted 6 months before expiration of the existing passport. These steps you are proposing are quite extreme for common sense.

myhero:
I can not renew your passport as long as it's not yet expired even if it's remaining one day to expire.if u really need a new passport, common sense is to go to any police station and get a report certificate on missing international passport (about 10k),with the police report, u go straight to court and swear affidavit. With the police stuff and ya affidavit, u go to immigration and apply for lost passport.. I will advice u to go to immigration headquarters at Abuja. Within 2 weeks, u will get new passport
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 7:02pm On Sep 20, 2022
I suggest you read my comment again

babey543:
Wrong advice bro.

With relevant experience in your proposed field, HND and Third class holders get admission easily. This has been demonstrated in this forum repeatedly. So many schools in UK accept HND and Third Class.

HND and Third class holders in this forum have gained admission in Roehampton University, Sheffield Hallam University, University of West England. Google the question and add nairaland for the full lists.

Those who don't get admission have no relevant experience with poorly written personal statement and recommendation letter.
offwego:
Two things for you to note

You would need to have additional qualifications by way of a PGD or significant work experience(depending on the programme you may need to show significant relevant work experience) to support your application with an HND.

Secondly, you will also need to be proactive in your application by making it stand out. Simply because institutions are receiving loads of applications globally for the same programme you are applying for from applicants who hold a Second Class degree and above. So you need to ensure you write a compelling personal statement that demonstrates how you meet the entry requirements for the programme you are applying for and provide relevant references.

whatever institutions you apply to at the end of the day, you need to give the admissions team a reason to have more than a glance at your application.

Mamaritzy:
Hello travel gurus in the house, kudos to you all for the good job you’re doing here.
Pls I’d like to know which of the UK universities that accept HND and/or 3rd class. Thanks.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
I suggest you read my comment again

babey543:
Wrong advice bro.

With relevant experience in your proposed field, HND and Third class holders get admission easily. This has been demonstrated in this forum repeatedly. So many schools in UK accept HND and Third Class.

HND and Third class holders in this forum have gained admission in Roehampton University, Sheffield Hallam University, University of West England. Google the question and add nairaland for the full lists.

Those who don't get admission have no relevant experience with poorly written personal statement and recommendation letter.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 8:20am On Sep 20, 2022
Two things for you to note

You would need to have additional qualifications by way of a PGD or significant work experience(depending on the programme you may need to show significant relevant work experience) to support your application with an HND.

Secondly, you will also need to be proactive in your application by making it stand out. Simply because institutions are receiving loads of applications globally for the same programme you are applying for from applicants who hold a Second Class degree and above. So you need to ensure you write a compelling personal statement that demonstrates how you meet the entry requirements for the programme you are applying for and provide relevant references.

whatever institutions you apply to at the end of the day, you need to give the admissions team a reason to have more than a glance at your application.

Mamaritzy:
Hello travel gurus in the house, kudos to you all for the good job you’re doing here.
Pls I’d like to know which of the UK universities that accept HND and/or 3rd class. Thanks.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 7:16am On Sep 20, 2022
You can send in your application. You just wouldn't receive an immediate decision on it as institutions are presently busy with the September 2022 intake.

yungryce:
Anyone know when schools would start accepting applications for September 2023?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 1:18am On Sep 16, 2022
what school turned down this CAS request please?

Mothernature11:
Hello house, my cas application just got rejected because i have previously studied at masters level before in the UK and am now going for MBA. I actually stated this in my application and also submitted my transcript and i was given conditional offer for payment of deposit now the visa compliance team are now saying i don't have progression. After i have paid deposit since two month ago and waiting for them to give me cas.

Please if you know any school i can apply to for January that will give me cas even with my previous masters in the UK.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 1:11pm On Sep 08, 2022
1. Can I apply for another course at Teeside, this time Msc in the same program I had B.Tech?

Yes you can. Receiving an offer of a place on a programme is significantly about demonstrating how you meet the specified entry requirements for the programme of interest.

Going forward, is it legal to apply to two different programs for the same school i.e 2 different applications and see which one succeeds

So it is not about being legal and the objective should not be to gamble because ultimately your chances of getting an offer does not improve because you have put in 2 applications. You can put in applications for different programmes in the same school if you can demonstrate that you meet the specified entry requirements for the different programmes.

Demonstrating that you meet the specified requirements for the different programmes means that each application must be distinct i.e tailored personal statement, tailored CV and maybe different references as well and additional relevant qualifications as required by each programme. 2 applications for different programmes in the same school seems to be a reasonable number. when they are more and in areas that are radically different from each other then it becomes more about the perception it gives to the admissions team of a lack of research and focus on your part.



eyexi:
I just got rejected for admission at Teeside
Reason: program not related to my first degree

1. Can I apply for another course at Teeside, this time Msc in the same program I had B.Tech?

2. Going forward, is it legal to apply to two different programs for the same school i.e 2 different applications and see which one succeeds
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 7:56pm On Sep 02, 2022
Great! All the best with the new application!

fun2fun:
Am re-writing my SOP. I just want to know if it's possible to reapply. Thanks
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
What are you doing differently? Is there/are there additional qualifications that show that you meet the entry requirements that you did not include with the initial application? Additionally are you updating your initial pitch, repositioning yourself or telling your story differently? if not, i do not see value in doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result.

fun2fun:
Good morning house. If am not offered admission in a particular school, can I reapply to the school and for the course I already applied for?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
can I go with my family as an undergraduate

I am afraid Not. Policy dictates.

I intend using waec though I’m an ND holder

By ND you mean HND or OND? You really can't get into a UK undergrad degree programme with just WAEC you would need either OND/HND or have completed the second year of an undergraduate degree Programme .

but I’m scared of traveling for transcript for security reason

I am not sure this is necessary except you are saying your institution doesn't have an online platform for processing this type of request.



Zino89:
Thanks � can I go with my family as an undergraduate I intend using waec though I’m an ND holder but I’m scared of traveling for transcript for security reason
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 9:01am On Sep 02, 2022
It's not too early to apply but you may not get an immediate decision as the focus of most institutions is on the upcoming intake.

Zino89:
Good afternoon everyone please is it too early to apply for 2023 September intake? I can’t meet up with January
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
I think this application may have had a fighting chance if there were some compelling evidence provided as regards suitable arrangements for the care of 3 children under 18 as your spouse would not be accompanying you amongst other things.

I am not sure you will benefit from an administrative review as it doesn't seem there was some evidence that was overlooked. It's best you reapply either with more compelling documentation or with your spouse

Greengage:
Good evening everyone! Please I need help as I am currently in a dilemma with UKVI issues.

@dduchess90, @justwise or anyone with advice on this issue please.

I moved with my spouse to another African country about 2 years ago after he got a better job offer here. We are blessed with 3 kids aged 8, 6 and 2. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a job here, (the country has a small economy), so I decided to switch careers to give myself a better chance of getting a good job.

I then applied for an MSc in the UK, and was able to secure admission, get my CAS and apply for my visa. We also applied for dependent visas for our kids but not for my husband, considering he has a good job which would also fund the expenses for myself and the kids. He also has a subsisting visit visa.

However, we received the notification email today that 2 of our kids' visas were denied dependent visas based on Paragraph ST34.2 of the Immigration rules and based on the following statement: " I am not satisfied that the required level of documentation has been shown in order to prove that your mother has sole responsibility. " We are yet to receive any information on the application of the 2 year old.

Please bear in mind that the supporting documents for the kids' visa applications were from both parents and we even indicated in their forms that we both have parental responsibility for the kids. I do not have sole responsibility for the kids, neither did I claim that in our applications. We also included details of my husband's job and the necessary documents pertaining to that.

In applying for the visas, we read all the requirements on the GOV.UK website but none of the information on the student visa/dependent partner of a student/ dependent child of a student mentions anything about this issue.

Now, we are at crossroads because based on this rule, the interpretation is that the other parent, who is not the main applicant must be willing to be a dependent, which would necessitate them living in the UK with the main applicant and the child dependent(s). This is not an option for us. Also, the kids cannot remain with my husband due to the nature of his job, as it requires a lot of travelling and we do not have any form of social/family support here, as all our family members live in different countries.

The only exception to this rule is subparagraph (C) of Paragraph ST34.2 of the Immigration rules which states that, "unless the decision maker is satisfied that there are serious and compelling reasons to grant the child entry clearance or permission to stay with the parent who
has permission on the Student route or as a dependent partner of a Student."

We do not know what to do next, whether to write to the Home Office directly, apply for an administrative review or reapply for the visa based of the provision in subparagraph (c) as we do not know if our situation constitutes serious and compelling reasons to grant the exception. So far, what I have read online depicts circumstances that are very different from ours.

Please, help a sister! I am trying to be a supportive wife, good mother and still want to build a life for myself. Please anyone with any advice/experience on how to tackle this issue. I would deeply appreciate it. May God bless our hustle!
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 10:30am On Aug 30, 2022
You are totally right!

“Important - You must carry this certificate with you, in your hand luggage when you travel to the UK and present it to the immigration officer on arrival. Failure to do so will result in a delay to your journey as you may be required to undergo the tests again”

This advice as emphasized on the TB certificate is why this document should be handy when going through the immigration protocols.

There is a difference between a perceived right and the prerogative of the officers at Border Control. The latter may be asserted without question, and for the exercise of which there is no responsibility or accountability as to the fact and the manner of its exercise.

jsquares:
But I was boldly stated on the TB certificate envelp that you must hold it in your hand when travelling to the UK
Solatium:



Yes because you can't distinguish between your left and right,that is why immigration officer will ask you for TB cert.
Some of you don't know those are Pre departure conditions ( Conditions before Visa issuance) Once your Visa is issued it has nothing to do with them.
That is why you open your self to all sorts of exploitations
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 4:21pm On Aug 26, 2022
Entry Clearance Officer
UK Decision Making Centre
Sheffield
United Kingdom

sainted:
Hello @offwego

What do I write in the address, should I address it to the High Commission?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 10:30pm On Aug 25, 2022
Yes
Lululiscious22:
Good evening. Please I already have a date for my child for biometrics on Monday. Myself and my husband is in two weeks. I want to know if we can pay for walk-in and use my child's date since he has a closer date? Please help. Thank you
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
So what is clear from the scenario you have painted is there is a record of a recent visa application refusal with reasons provided irrespective of the confusion around whether the request to withdraw was successful or not, so you need to mention this refusal because it wasn't stated in your student visa application.

From the scenario, the reason why you are writing the letter is because there has been an update to your situation so the cover letter should be and it should read

“Cover letter -Addendum to Travel History(UK)”

You can go on to state in the 1st paragraph why you are writing the letter which is to update the ECO that you have recently received a refusal to the -----(state type of visa) UK visa application made on ------ date. State the purpose why you made the application e.g to attend the ------- conference which was to hold from ------ date to ------ date.

Secondly you state the date you received the refusal and quote the reasons provided for the refusal from the document received. You can then follow-up to highlight the reason why and actions you had taken to withdraw the application and the date prior to receiving the refusal notification.

Thirdly, you can state that the addendum has become necessary, as you had not highlighted this refusal when you completed your online student visa application as the refusal notification succeeded the completion of your student visa application. (you mentioned that you received the refusal yesterday and you had already submitted the online application)

You may wish to highlight for the Eco’s attention as you have mentioned here that you are a fully sponsored student and this is why you have not presented your personal bank statement with your application to demonstrate proof of funds (ideally, this could have been stated in the additional information section on the Visa form but it is still ok to state it here).


sainted:
For the student visa, I got a fully funded scholarship so i didn't put in any information regarding my bank statement. I have tuition and stipend.

So for the cover letter, I should write that I was refused a visitor's visa in the past right? But that i didn't mention it because a decision was made on my application yesterday.

Do I need to explain the issue with my finances even if I'm fully sponsored?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 5:29am On Aug 23, 2022
UK Institutions are battling with an unprecedented increase in both applications and deposit payments. to put it in context. Nigeria is at a 150% increase in the total pool of firm acceptances in comparison to this same time 2021. Just to be clear, firm acceptances being, accepted an offer of a place and paid a deposit.

So instances where you get sent these types of emails are sadly going to be commonplace.

jsquares:
Bradford is so competitive, I wrote to them to defer my Admission September intake 2022 to January 2023, they accepted unfortunately I just received a mail on11th August 2022 that if I didn't pay £2000 intial deposit on on before 11/08/22 that I should defer again to September 2023. So my brother that is braford for u
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
You may need to check individual IELTS requirements for institutions offering your programme of interest if you intend to use this as your English Language qualification for admission as programmes have different IELTS minimum requirements.

Also, WAEC English Language grades A1-C6 is also accepted as an English Language qualification so you use your WAEC to also apply for admission.

ocpaschal:
Hello everyone, pls I want to seek your advice on UK study. I have a Bsc in Political Science, graduated in 2015 with second class lower division with a GPA of 3.04 on a 5 scale. I have IELTS score Band 6.5 overall and each with only speaking 7. I am a member of Nigeria Red Cross Society and have volunteer experience in Community outreach programs. My intention is to study Masters in Social work or a similar course on Caregiver/Care support role.
I just want to enquire on the following;

- Is my overall IELTS Band 6.5 good enough for Masters in Social work?


- Pls do you know Masters courses that are similar to Social Work that I can study?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 4:15am On Aug 23, 2022
Enrolment deadlines are in place to ensure that you are at the Institution for the beginning, or as close as possible to the beginning of teaching. so really, your institution will be in the best position to advise on their late arrival threshold as this differs for institutions. It's best to notify the institution asap and confirm if they can accept your arrival within the timeline you are seeking as you can be refused entry if you arrive after the latest arrival date specified on your CAS.

Ellatyra:
Please I just want to enquire the implications of arriving the uk Late as an international student? For context,arriving 3weeks after coursework starts…& also,will this cause an hassle with the uk immigration at the airport?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 3:13am On Aug 23, 2022
Are you asking about work experience for Uni admission or visa purposes?

Xavier70s:
Please I would like to ask a question, I finished nysc service in 2019, I couldn't get a job after that but my father has building projects in lagos and owerri that I have been handling till date as both supervisor and procurementof materials and so , does this count as work experience and if so how can I go about the reference, because I don't want to do a fake reference
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 11:58am On Aug 20, 2022
I am not quite sure how you missed it. seems the information is actually on the website. Please see below screenshot

Lithuanian:
Type it on Google... You will get an answer..
temidayo231:
If I have the answer, I won't ask. The tuition deposit isn't on on both school website.
temidayo231:
Hello everyone
Please what's the deposit and payment plan for
Roehampton University and University of Plymouth.

TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 11:51am On Aug 20, 2022
Maybe if you mention what Anglia Ruskin is requesting for then someone can point you in the right direction.

Rapswodee1:
Please help, what do one need to know about Roehampton Pre-CAS interview?

Also, does statement of result for PGDE suffice for Anglia Ruskin?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 2:31am On Aug 20, 2022
Firstly, getting an NSF mail is not a bad thing! It just means the ECO is not able to make a conclusive decision on your application on the strength of the available information/documentation, hence requires additional information/documentation. So there shouldn't be anything frightening or worrisome about it.

Secondly, if during the review of your application, the ECO believes that specific information covering your work experience between 2019-2021 is critical to making a decision on your application, then they will request for it. Until then, no need to press the worry button.

Notime0112:
Please house I had my bio with my family august 9 and I got a bit worried when I saw someone said, you’ll get nsf if your study gap is up to 3 years. Mine is 7 years from 2016, I submitted reference letter from my work place for 2016- 2019 where I worked but couldn’t get access to the company I worked with 2019- 2021. Please will this pose a nsf as I am worried.

Please response is appreciated
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 1:45am On Aug 20, 2022
What school is this please and why was there a need to compare qualifications in the first instance?

Sellany:
Hello all,
So I just got my statement of comparability from UK NARIC and it states that my Bsc from Unilag does not have honours comparable with the UK honours. The school has declined my offer to study at MSC levels and advice I go for BSc.
Has anyone been in this situation.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 1:23am On Aug 20, 2022
Your concern is understandable as per the suggested proximity of events however, backdating in this instance can be viewed as fraud so kindly do not go this route. As this is an existing relationship, there are a number of ways you can demonstrate it is genuine alongside the marriage certificate. You can add a curated selection of photos of life events showing your relationship e.g., introduction photos, birthdays, family functions, holidays etc. you can also include a curated selection of email messages, text messages and any joint ventures e.g bank accounts, property etc

Opeyemikas:
Good evening everyone
My fiancé and I are going for our court marriage by next week,since I’m going with him as his dependant so my question is that is it advisable to back date the marriage certificate so they don’t think it’s because of the visa application we did court marriage or we should leave the date as it will be….thanks in advance for the reply
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
Ok so you have posts saying an NSF was received and another suggesting you are preempting an outcome, and new information saying the previous and current MSc programmes are identical. which is the exact scenario?

Kalakris:
Na why I wan know if dem no go begin reason say.....why the person wan go do another Msc for the same course again
Kalakris:
If a student who graduated in 2017 (5 years study gap) has been sent a NSF mail requesting for what he or she has been doing since graduation, can the person upload further studies (M.Sc) admission letter and result as what he/she has been doing during the 5 years period?. Will they have a problem with proving academic progression?.
Kalakris:
Today is just 9 days after biometrics. Forgot to upload NYSC cert. No NSF yet
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 8:05pm On Aug 18, 2022
What business does your uncle do? how long have you worked there? what is your job designation there? how many years gap do you have? what have you been doing since you finished school?

Bridie2:
Good day everyone. Please I need your help. I was asked to provide an employment letter or pay slip. I have been working at my uncles shop but it is not registered. How do I explain this? Can I snap pictures in front of the shop as a prove? Please help out on how I can do this. Thanks @justwise
@duchess
Any idea please?
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 7:42pm On Aug 18, 2022
An affidavit is fine. You do not need to do a new birth certificate. recency of the affidavit doesn't matter in this instance.

WendieT:
Good morning,

Thank you very much to all those that have been assisting by answering questions. It is really appreciated.

For my Visa POF, I intend using a sponsor, which is my Mum, for which I will require my birth certificate which has an issue. My name is spelt in full on the birth certificate, but on all my documents including international passport, it is shortened. For example, on birth certificate it is written as Ngozika, but on all documents, as Ngozi. I have always used this birth certificate though, and it has never been an issue, but I don't want to take any chances.

I tried doing another birth certificate but they said issuance date cannot be changed so it will have a recent date which would look highly suspicious.

If I get a court affidavit to say that both names are same person, will it be ok? Also considering the fact that the affidavit will have a recent date.

Can I attach my local government identification also, as it has all the names spelt correctly?

Your kind response will be appreciated.

Thank you.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 7:33pm On Aug 18, 2022
This is pretty straight forward. you can reasonably explain this chronologically as you have done below attaching the evidence.

Kalakris:
Graduation 2017
NYSC 2018-2019. (Forgot to upload)
Nigerian Msc 2020-2021.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego: 10:57am On Aug 18, 2022
Has the studies lasted for the entire 5 years? The studies can be part of what they have been engaged in but what else? The ECO would not be expecting a minute by minute account however they would need to state other significant activities that can be reasonably explained and substantiated.

Kalakris:
If a student who graduated in 2017 (5 years study gap) has been sent a NSF mail requesting for what he or she has been doing since graduation, can the person upload further studies (M.Sc) admission letter and result as what he/she has been doing during the 5 years period?. Will they have a problem with proving academic progression?.
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by offwego:
I am not quite sure that the below emboldened captures my response

alongetayo:
You really do not need to disclose your MBA.

My wife has a Msc and it wasn't disclosed. We have our visas already

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