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All the 5 SE states are in the top 10.

States with heavy indigenous Igbo population are in the top 10 i.e Rivers, Delta

State with heavy Igbo migrant population is in the top 10 i.e Lagos

MrPristine:
You don't have to resort to tribalistic insults to pass your message. While buhari and Tinubu are catastrophic disasters, Nigeria enjoyed the highest economic growth rate in her history under the Yoruba/Fulani leadership of Obasanjo and Atiku. Performance or lack of it has absolutely nothing to do with tribe.

According to the statistical graph from the OP, our GDP recorded its steepest growth during GEJ's government

Facts don't lie.

From 2015 till date, the Yorubas and Fulanis chose to chase out GEJ and brought in policies that have grounded Nigeria economically.

Statistics don't lie.

Procashtips:
First, you err by comparing crude oil price of that of Obj and Yar'Adua with that of Buhari. You cant go that far because it wouldn't make a balance of judgement due to the fact that standard of living in both eras are far apart and that there are governments in between both.

You can only compare the precedessor and the successor for a more factual comparison.

How much was crude oil under Abacha (A man sanctioned to death by the west) and also Abdulsalam compared to that of Obj? (Only added the latter because he was a bridge between military and civilian govt)

Now how much was crude oil under ObJ and Yaradua?

It was said that Yaradua outperformed OBJ in just 2yrs+ and would have made a huge difference if not for death



Did crude sell higher under OBJ than the 2 or not?

Now to Jonathan making Nigeria the biggest economy in Africa, it was all but beans cooking, this was later exposed after the rots going underneath got exposed. You can't be the biggest economy in Africa early 100% surplus of your budgeted earnings and still end up borrowing to pay salaries a year before the end of your tenure. What happened to the 100% surplus earnings?

Jonathan paid subsidy on fuel and electricity just as Buhari, Yar'Adua and OBJ, it's only Tinubu that's acting abnormal and turning Nigerian lives upside down.

So Jonathan didn't do anything magical in that aspect.

Are you really saying crude didn't sell under Jonathan above $100 per barrel for a long time?

How can you claim just by using one link that Buhari and Jonathan sold crude at similar rates when it's not a news that it sold for $110 for a while compared to like $60 that was in the budget vs selling for as low as $25 under Buhari compared to $50-$60 on budget?

Please, lets not argue for argument sake. I would have posted links to backup the above but I'm where my internet isn't opening images fast enough.

You can help check these assertion or wait till I can do so later.

I'm not holding brief for any of these leaders, just letting us know that Jonathan was never good if compared to Yar'Adua his precedessor because he didnt fact any political, economic or global pandemic issues.

It's so sad that we are buying man hour time discussing these failures called leaders.

Nwokem, crude price was only at the low 20s in April 2020, and rose rapidly from May 2020 to $43.23 per barrel and kept rising.
But you also must factor in that around the time of the Covid19 lockdown, all the petrol stations were shut down and people were encouraged to stay indoors. This meant that Buhari's government must have saved more than 90% of fuel subsidy around this period, and the lockdown carried on for many weeks, and even after that, there was a drastic reduction in traffic for many months.
All through GEJ's tenure, he paid huge sums for the petrol subsidy, unlike Buhari that had a break of nearly a year, as the lockdown ensured he didn't have to pay a lot on fuel subsidy as cars were not encouraged to be on the streets.
So I can comfortably write that the crude price and fuel subsidy factor were cancelling each other out. Buhari has no reason to leave a healthy economy comatose. Let us also bear in mind that Buhari borrowed way more money that GEJ, so what did he do with his own borrowings.

Also don't forget that Buhari's economy was already performing worse than Jonathan's
GEJ was in complete power for just 5 years, so I can comfortably say that six years before Buhari came in, the price of crude was comparable to the Buhari era price of crude, yet Buhari was performing woefully compared with Yaradua.

You wrote about the fact that standard of living has changed. It is the job of governments to put in policies to improve the standard of living of the people. Buhari also promised that he would improve the people's standard of living if he gets elected. On getting in, he destroyed the people's standard of living, so there is no valid excuse for Buhari to go relying on the disparity between the standard of living during OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ period, after all his government was responsible for making the standard of living of Nigerians worse. It is another failure that his government was responsible for. He can't use it as an excuse, to avoid being properly judged by the people.

Lithiumite:
Then why wasn't GEJ Nigeria better than his predecessors..... look at oil production levels pre GEJ....intact we haven't ever gotten production level back up to what it was then.

GEJ was better than his predecessors. Look at the graph sent by the OP in the second post on this thread.
Nigeria's GDP grew most steeply when GEJ was the president.

GEJ did his bit and he did very well.

But his predecessors were battling with lower oil prices, and the oil prices they met were lower than the oil price that Tinubu met, yet OBJ and Yaradua are vastly outperforming both Buhari and Tinubu, who had higher oil prices than Yaradua and OBJ.

Let's not mention GEJ, because he outperformed Yaradua and OBJ. Let's stick with Yaradua and OBJ. They obliterate Tinubu and Buhari

I also decided to show the price of crude oil for the past 70 years, so no Agbado abuser will come on this thread and start claiming that the price of oil was much more than it is now. Also don't forget that this current government no longer pays fuel subsidy so they must have all the money they need to carry out developmental tasks for the nation.

The Fulanis and Yorubas have ruined this nation economically.

Please access the link below, as a supporting data to make better sense of how far the Nigerian GDP has fallen, under Fulani and Yoruba rule.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Lithiumite:
pls remind them how much crude was selling during GEJ as against PMB and BAT.

The difference is not much.

In fact, Buhari enjoyed a higher price of oil than OBJ and Yaradua, and yet the economy under OBJ and Yaradua are better than the economy under both Buhari and Tinubu.

The oil price during Tinubu era was much more than the price during OBJ and Yaradua's tenure

The oil price during GEJ's era is just slightly about the oil price in Tinubu's era, yet Tinubu's economy is nowhere near OBJ and Yaradua that had lower oil prices during their eras. Also don't forget that Tinubu has removed the fuel subsidy, so he should have more, in terms of cash for development

Check this

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Statistics don't lie

Procashtips:
Towards the end of Jonathan's tenure, Okonjo came to tell the world that Jonathan govt was borrowing to pay salaries. (Verify this online)
This is a govt that enjoyed a doubled crude oil prices for years.

Other abnormalities happened under him, they're all documented.

Don't forget that Buhari also paid subsidy on fuel and electricity even though he didnt earn up to 1/3 of what Jonathan earned crude oil wise.

Abnormalities happened under Buhari too but It's this Tinubu thats the worst so far.

Everything happening to Nigeria now was caused by his utterances and policies. Nothing else.

GEJ's government did earn the right to borrow after all he made the Nigerian economy the largest in Africa.

And btw, according to the link which I have pasted, the price of crude oil was noticeably higher during Buhari's term than during OBJ and Yaradua's term. Yet those two presidents outdid every APC president and they both were paying subsidies on fuel and electricity.

You also claimed that the price of oil during GEJ's period was outrageously pricier than during Buhari and Tinubu's government. The graph in the link doesn't support this your assertion. Oil price took a nosedive during the commencement of the Corona epidemic in April, but by May the price of oil had already started rising steeply.

Let us also not loose focus on the fact that the Nigerian economy was performing woefully even before the covid19 epidemic, so Buhari and Tinubu have no excuses.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Procashtips:
Let's not whitewash Jonathan here.

His govt was cooking beans for us if you understand what that means in Finance. We also earned the highest under him when it comes to crude oil.

We were also not under any world pandemic or anything of such.

Tinubu is surely going to be worst.

But GEJ was paying fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy, amounting to huge amounts of money every month.

Also the graph will show that Nigeria's economy was already nosediving before the pandemic in 2020, so no excuse for both Buhari and Tinubu.
Since 1999, GEJ is the best president on the Nigerian economy scales. The graph proves it.

Statistics don't lie

Hezmatosky:
GEJ was lucky to meet a booming economy, he flopped. PMB, worked first tenure and flopped second tenure. Hmmmmm abeg make I stop here first

According to the graph, GEJ did not meet a booming economy. In fact Nigeria's economy registered the steepest growth during GEJ's administration.

Statistics don't lie

tefishy:
The year 2023 was shared by both Tinubu and Buhari

Year 2024 is still counting, so let's wait and see what Baba emilokan can offer. But like this, e red seriously

Buhari only had only 5 months of 2023,while Tinubu had 7 months of the same year.

OriOko88:

Jonathan was a puppet. He didn't do anything special. He met a very robust Obj era economy. I don't rate him atal. He shud have tried all possible best to ensure pdp remained in power. An hausa or Yoruba president at that time will never relinquish power in such way. This is Africa!! Maximum respect to Obj.

APC saw Jona to be a weak vessel and used propaganda to destroy him. Nonsense.

GEJ did better than OBJ. The graph shows the steepest economic growth when GEJ was in power, followed by OBJ's first term era.
By OBJ's second term, economic growth had already slowed down drastically. GEJ gave our economy the needed boost, and it was because of GEJ that Nigeria became the largest economy in Africa, thanks to the Igbo economic managers that GEJ engaged.

Statistics don't lie

KEVIND:
Buhari borrowed away the present & future generations of Nigerians.
Tinubu is really trying to navigate & steady the ship Buhari wrecked.
Buhari totally destroyed Nigeria with senseless borrowing, looting & massive embezzlement of the country

Tinubu worked hard to remove GEJ and install Buhari as the president.
Tinubu also supported Buhari's 2019 reelection campaign, so Tinubu is part and parcel of the Buhari failure.

Tinubu also promised that he will maintain the Buhari principles of leadership once he rigs the election, and he seems to be fulfilling his promise. The economy has taken a more massive downturn since Tinubu took over.

Racoon:
This should clear the doubts of all especially the mummified zombies hailing a government that have destroyed every progress that this nation has ever made including the economy.

From this diagram, the steepest growth was recorded when GEJ was in power and his economy was hugely managed by Igbos which included people like Peter Obi, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Arunma Oteh, Emefiele, Chike Obi e.t.c

The second steepest growth was during OBJ's tenure, when Ngozi Okonjo Iweala made her debut.

This is a wonderful graph. It allows people to visually see the contributions of both the Fulanis and Yorubas to the economic decline of Nigeria. Propaganda doesn't cut it anymore.
Yorubas labelled GEJ the Ineffectual buffoon, but from this graph it is clear that Tinubu and Buhari were the complete ineffectual buffoons.

The Igbos that managed the Nigerian economy during GEJ's tenure have proven themselves to be the very best in Nigeria.

Since Tinubu and Buhari shut Igbos out of economic management of the nation, the country has fallen flat.

Statistics don't lie. The Lagos boys have shown what they are really all about. Empty vessels

Jokerman:
Jonathan was s great president.

We made mistakes with Buhari, and may God judge that Buhari with Fire and thunder for destroying this country....

Baba werey

It was Tinubu and Buhari that destroyed the country.

Statistics don't lie.

paramakina202:
Keep running round circle believing it will eventually take you to your destination.

A descendant of Eri son of Gad is saying he is not an Israeli or a Jew so who is?

Your ignorance is mind-boggling.

Jews are originally from the tribe of Judah (and possibly Benjamin) who were practising RABBINICAL JUDAISM. Rabbis were heavily influential in this branch of Judaism, and they allow for the conversion of non-Jews as converts. They were the major part of the Israelite family that found their way and settled in Europe and north Africa. Jews settled in countries that were already peopled and owned by European groups, so they were mainly seen as settlers, and because of their cultural practices, they were frequently victimised, marginalised, discrimminated against, and pogroms organised against them. Basically the same sort of treatment Igbos are getting from Nigerian gentiles.

In the old testament, there was hardly any rabbis, if at all. They practised pure Judaism which is very similar to OMENANA as practised by Igbos. Another thing that OMENANA has is that you can only be considered Igbo if your father is an Igbo, or if you are a non-Igbo woman, but married to an Igbo man. We don't allow for conversions into the Igbo society via omenana.

The 10 northern tribes were dispersed by Sennacherib, the king of Assyria, and a huge chunk of the Igbos left Israel in this first dispersal. Igboland is not just made up of people from the tribe of Gad (Eri, Arodi and Areli's descendants). Other Israelite tribes can also be found in Igboland. Remember that I wrote above that the majority of Jews went to Europe and north Africa. Some descendants of Judah also made it to Igboland, and they occupy quite a number of villages in southern Igboland.

Now because European Jews were being heavily persecuted in Europe and they had no homeland of their own, as Igbos have, a campaign commenced to create a HOMELAND for Jews. At some point a part of Uganda was even considered, but eventually it was agreed that their original homeland should be made available for them.
After the second world war, the state of Israel was created, and European and North African Jews flooded into it.

But every Israelite has a claim on Israel after all, God promised that land to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So Igbos have a good claim, even though Igbos have uncontested territory in Nigeria.

I hope you can now see the state of the game now

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Hammer567
proeast

paramakina202:
You keep contradicting yourself..ain't you a lost tribe of Israel anymore?
Aint you descendants of Eri son of Gad again?
Stay one place Abeg. The Gad you claim through Eri is one of the tribes of Israel.
Gad is one of sons of Jacob and Jacob is Israel.
You guys are only making noise on social media lying shamelessly including your kings tufiakwa.

You obviously don't know who the Jews are, and I don't have the time to lecture you now

hammer567:
God's word is clear, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

Our fight is not against flesh and blood.

Their is a spiritual fight.

Fulani and Yoruba voters are suffering the hunger more than any other group in Nigeria.

Buharis government was a total failure because of his anti-Igbo stance.

Tinubu's government is also likely to be a huge failure because of their anti-Igbo campaigns, and policies

hammer567:
Especially when those that benefit from your God given resources now want to kill u out of greed.


Dont u think God is great?


He said, I will curse those who curse you and I will bless those who bless you Israel.


Nobody have come against Igbo and remained the same.

Look at Reno Omokri, he is starting to unravel.


Suddenly his brother a pastor raped a 15 year old girl and it is public.


Same happened to Abba kyira, we have seen it all before, even Sanusi got disgrace and dethroned.

It will seem as though raping young girls is in their blood.

Even the nation is suffering for their hate for Igbos

hammer567:
what is even more attractive to me is separation.

I'm not against Nigeria but I'm against failure.

We can always remove ourselves from the company of fools.

I like the strategic options this ruling gives Ndigbo.

We can play a sophisticated political chess game with any entity.

It's not bad having blood siblings in other climes

paramakina202:
It is a lie every Hebrew have right of return to Israel but not identity thieves like you

It is Jews that have a right of return.

This makes sense especially as Jews did not have any homeland they could call theirs prior to the 1948 creation of modern Israel.

Igbos are not under such a pressure as we have Igboland which we own completely.

However, as descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Igbos also have a claim on Israel, and a few may assert that right, if they feel Nigeria is in an irredeemable mess

paramakina202:
Hehehehe.
Olukwu that Nonsense ruling is not binding nor relevant in anyway,
What have you Igbrews benefited from so called ruling?
Free visa to Israel? I am not talking about citizenship o. What is Israelis investment in Igboland? You are here celebrating Nonsense.

Being a descendant of ancient Israelites doesn't automatically make you an Israeli citizen, but with this ruling an Igbo person can pursue Israeli citizenship.

The Rabbinical court has already made it clear that Igbos and Jews can intermarry without any encumbrances, as we are relatives from the same ancestors.

Please do not consume rat poison tonight. Postpone such activities till tomorrow

paramakina202:
Who are the Jewish Rabbinical court that is based in Miami USA?
So what have changed 2 years after the so called rabbinical ruling, can you now go to Israel without visa?
Just come online to disgrace yourselves as people with very low sef-esteem.

Hammer567.

Illiterates everywhere.

The Rabbinical court was set up by a Sephardic Jewish international organisation with affiliate organisations in Europe, Israel, USA e.t.c
The Rabbis and Dayanim that made this ruling are based in several countries including Israel and the US.

And it may be painful for you to also note that any ruling by any Jewish Rabbinical court cannot be upturned by any other Jewish Rabbinical court
And this ruling is now a part of the Jewish/Israeli law, as a Jewish state.

This one go pain you real good ma nigga

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Hammer567
Proeast

OilandGasMarket:
Where are the Igbos? Abi you don't know they are descendants of the Jews?

Igbos are not Jews. Igbos are Israelites.

In fact Igbos have the largest population of Israelites, possibly followed by the Jews

Cc
Hammer567
Proeast

paramakina202:
But they claimed Nri is son of Eri. Lol
Both Eri and Nri are both fraudulently making false claims of their origin and impotance in Igboland.

Unfortunately for you, the Jewish Rabbinical court recognises the NRI priestly clan, so your thoughts don't matter at all in this regard

hammer567:
Ofoigbo u are a great man.


U kept this story alive here on nairaland, despite the hostility.


May God continue to bless you.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQgsNtMyvs

My bro, thanks for the compliments.

Unfortunately, Igbo haters out there are almost dying from this news.

paramakina202:
Delusional as usual.Keep contradicting yourselves.The people who champion this phantom Igbo/Hebrew relationship are usually brain washed Biafra agitators.Tell me one prominent Igbo man who goes about celebrating non existing kinship with Israel.
Your last sentence is in the opposite.It is rather some misguided Anambra Jew wannabes trying desperately to attach themselves to the Israelis.
Go to any Igbo reputable group like SE governors forum,Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo,SE traditional council of Ndi Eze etc and tell them they Jews and Eri of Igala origin is the father of all Igbo and see what happens.

You don't see Umu Nri people running around trying to attach to the Jews. It is the fraudster in Aguleri that adopted the name Chukwuemeka ERI, various decades after his birth, that has been trying to do that with the hope of being seen as the original source for Igbos.

Even the Jewish Rabbinical ruling only acknowledged the Levitical Nris who have never sought any authentication by any group, so I imagine how Chukwuemeka Eri must be feeling right now.

Meanwhile let us not loose focus of the fact that this ruling by this Jewish Rabbinical court is a major source of jealousy by people like you.

Igbos are Israelites. In fact, no Israelite group in the world today, can claim to be more authentically Israelite than the Igbos. Now this is a major fact

dequir:
Yet our son is ruling over you, dictating the pace of your life.

When are you packing out of Nigeria to Ghana?

A Yoruba emir is still ruling over Ilorin.

Yet Yorubas cannot celebrate any Yoruba cultural event in Ilorin.

paramakina202:
The Ooni is now expert in Igbo history. Anyway he was making jokes of Igbo jew wannabes that ndi Igbo are way older than the Jews.
If that is the case and Ooni was right, why did you guys open a thread captioned Igbos are descendants of Jews? And happy celebrating it ;DConfused and inferiority complex. If being Igbo is not enough for you guys relocate to Israel that is if they will even grant you visa.

Your illiteracy knows no bounds. Right in front of your eyes the title of the thread makes it clear that Igbos are descendants of ANCIENT ISRAELITES, and you are here, blinding stating that the top suggest that Igbos are descendants of JEWS.

And stop being jealous because Jews are desperately seeking to attach to the great Igbo race.

helinues:
Thank you. We like it like that.

Sebi tomorrow na Monday right, some people would be on compulsory vacation as kids in the town are the one in charge for the day.

Ways of doing things are different bro

Of course I know you like surrendering to Fulanis. Enjoy your cowardice.

I will rather sit-at-home 5 days a week than surrender my ancestral lands to Fulani terrorists. We die here!!!

helinues:
Good

Avoiding unnecessary chaos and confusion is not a sign of cowardice

E be like say Yorubas don sign article of surrender in favour of Fulanis.

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