₦airaland Forum

femisplash:
To correct your ignorance, Tinubu couldn't have contested because the slot at the time belonged to the North.. Yar'Adua was occupying North's slot before his demise. It was only sensible that a Northerner finishes his full tenure. GEJ was only being pushed by greed and the allure of power.

Yaradua was in PDP while Tinubu was/is in APC. The zoning arrangements of the parties are not related.

In 2015, the SS still had a greater moral right to the presidency than the north. GEJ was the first ever SS man to be the president.
But Tinubu did not consider that. He arrogantly dismissed the yearnings of the SS because he wanted to please his Fulani masters, and elevated the northern whims over that of the SS.

Now that it is the turn of the south in general and the SE in particular, Tinubu chose to hijack that opportunity.
So Igbos have no choice but to play hard ball. If Tinubu chooses to ignore the SE, the SE will scuttle his ambitions by backing a fellow deprived NE

femisplash:
I can't blame those calling you slaves and 4th class citizens. Just take a look at yourself deifying the North even more than your forefathers worshipped the gods of Nri kingdom.
Are there no ibo aspirants in the race?.
Without a doubt, defeatist mentality is imprinted in the DNA of that region.

Yologba smartness

There was a Yoruba candidate in the 2015 presidential election, but you all voted for Buhari, a Fulani man
https://situationroomng.org/list-of-presidential-candidates-for-2015-election/

Tinubu himself could have also run for the position in 2015, but he didn't. Rather he chose a Fulani man to support. Aren't you people the greatest slaves in Nigeria.

Anyway, the policy is not changing. If the south won't opt for a SE presidential candidate, the SE will support the NE claim, after all they are more deserving of the position than Tinubu or the SW

Omodua:
Kalu is a shameless nitwit. Ready to sell his heritage for pot of porridge.

At a time everybody is rooting for Southeast Presidency , he is hobnobbing with his oppressors.

Eedi*t!

Afonja and twisting the truth. Is Tinubu an easterner?

The SE has made it clear that they will support a NW candidate, if the south doesn't want to support a SE candidate. The die is cast. Igbos are not known for bluffing, and in the south, it is really only the SE and a little chunk of the SS that have ever fought a civil war. Tinubu is on his own. Yorubas will just have to accept the incoming Fulani presidency, as Yorubas don't have what it takes to do something about it

The same way Fulani men are heads of the 3 arms of government.

The same way no Igboman is in the top 6, but Yorubas have two

Mandate2023:
Foolish idiot......dey want to retain power by all means but will fail, nw that igbos r supporting northerners instead of their own we will see if dey successfully make him d president

We will also see if you will successfully make Tinubu the president.

The same Tinubu that made sure no Igboman occupies any other of the top 6 positions in the country

subcbouy:
It was agreed on zoning to go north in 2015. It is now south to produce his. I should have expected him to stand on the ground of the south like what the PDP south is doing.

Like you guys keep saying, the SE was. not privy to any of these una agreements and don't have a stake in APC.
Which means the SE is free to get into new agreements.

Moreover, you all claim Tinubu is a genius and that Igbos are just 5%-ers. So basically Yorubas don't have to worry about Igbo minority moves.

Your calculations failed to take three important facts into consideration.
1. Igbos have the greatest moral right to demand for presidency in the south, which invariably means that when Igbos r fuse to press that claim, the entire south looses the moral right to demand for the presidency.
2. The 5% that Buhari ascribed to the SE and SS may be a gross underestimation of their voting strength.
3. Yorubas falsely assumed that Igbos will never back a northern candidate. They forgot that Igbos are probably the most dynamic ethnic group in Nigeria, and are quite intelligent enough to discard perspectives that will hinder their goal.

These miscalculations by Tinubu may hurt the Yoruba political game in the future, if it is not well managed. Igbos are already in the psychological zone to blow up any perceived southern bridges, with southerners who are wicked enough not to see the need for a SE president.

Adedayorr:
Any attempt by Buhari to impose a Northerner on the South after 8 years in office will be resisted. Buhari should hand over to the South the way Goodluck Jonathan handed over power to Buhari, otherwise Nigeria will become history. We all know the evil agenda of Buhari to help the North retain power by all means.
Should war happen in Nigeria after or before elections, everybody should hold Buhari responsible

Nwokem, you are on your own with this your war talk.

The SE will not be joining you in that. In fact, we even want Lawan. We prefer Lawan to Tinubu

subcbouy:
This is why Igbo men can not be trusted. Why cannot he ask Lawan to VP him?

Why didn't Tinubu ask Buhari to become Osibanjo's VP ?

deeva2:
I DONT THINK SO..

If Tinubu could not pull off any magic in Edo state which has a common boundary with Yoruba states. There is no way he will be able to do jack, now that he will have an armada coming for him.

The south is not together. The south needs to be together, to give him a fighting chance. The way things are, his presidential ambition is doomed. Mark my words

Balogunodua:
Where did Yoruba ever fault Igbo moves? you people are the ones calling Yoruba's betrayals and all sought of names when Jonathan lost the election...did any Yoruba stop Igbo candidates from contesting? you guyz have been threatening fire and brimstone if Tinubu did not support Igbo candidate..while you asslick Atiku who does that? Your leaders have been threatening the whole Nigeria with breakup if Igbo are denied the ticket but you see nothing wrong with that and Yoruba's are your problems, Tinubu is not begging for support so vote with him or against is your choice..that won't stop him from contesting.

Tinubu is likely to loose the 11 states of the SS and SE. He won't even make up to 25% in any of them, except in Edo state.

The SS and SE will use this opportunity to pay him back for his 2015 moves
The SE will also stick in a knife on his presidential ambition, for not supporting the emergence of an SE president.

I also expect Lawan to win most of the NE and NW states, and I doubt Tinubu will be able to secure up to 25% from any of those states.
The middlebest will be a tug of war, which will still favour Lawan.

Let Tinubu bring it on. That was exactly how he miscalculated in Edo state

helinues:
Una empty threat can't even move a paper

Which threat?

I don't see any threat.

It is just a political move. That's all

Balogunodua:
Ipobs are the ones emotionally traumatized not Tinubu...the fact that he is contesting without giving a shit shows a his not emotional like those who keeps wailing because of his ambition...


Who did Tinubu betrayed exactly

So you guys should stop faulting the current Igbo move. Presidency going to the south in 2023 is not a must. Igbos, who haven't tasted the presidency for many decades will not be supporting Tinubu, out of any southern solidarity mirage.

Let Yorubas quit threatening the north with Nigeria's break-up if a southerner is not the president. It won't work.

The SE will not support any cunning moves in that direction. The southeast will support a region of the north that hasn't had the presidency for a while. They are more deserving of the presidency than Tinubu, after all, since 1999 Yorubas have been in the presidency for 16 years.

Balogunodua:
Threat fro. cowards moves no one.....we don't care who you vote or support...we will contest for it because we have the what it takes to win and not an inconsequential minority.

We will know who the minorities are in 2023.

Tinubu will be disgraced. You are about to find out the voting strength of the Igbos

We affect percentages in many non-Igbo states including Lagos and Abuja.

Tinubu, the great betrayer of the south is about to taste the resolve of the Igbos.
He was allowed to get away with his betrayal in 2015. This time around, he will be so emotionally traumatized with the response

I see Reno keeps indulging foolish Igbo illiterates and creating fake Igbo handles and asking himself silly questions and making stupid claims, so that Reno will shine.

I am not fooled

Balogunodua:
Lol..is that a question or explanation.. the fact that we don't blame or blackmail to get what we want shows we are a tribes confident of getting what we want....


Only an inconsequential tribe blackmail, blame, threatens others to get what they want because they know they are so inconsequential to get it by legal means..

Who told you? In fact Yorubas are even trying to blackmail the north as we speak, telling them that Nigeria will disintegrate if the @south@ is not given the presidency in 2023.

But that Yoruba threat will not work. Igbos have left that southern crap. If the SE can't be considered, then to hell with the south.

As things stand, Igbos are the only group with the moral right to demand for presidency in the south. So now that Igbos are willing to ditch the southern apparel, the Yoruba threat is now ringing very hollow, and in fact the only thing giving Lawan confidence at the moment, is that Igbos are likely to abandon the southern stance.

And once Igbos abandon the southern stance, Lawan and Atiku will immediately be favoured, and the Yoruba threat becomes null and void, after all the Yoruba claim to the 2023 presidency is very inferior to the Igbo claim to the 2023 presidency.

deeva2:
FUNNY YOU..YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT NORTH CAN AND WILL NEVER GIVE POWER TO THE SE..THE BEST POSITION YOU CAN SETTLE FOR IS VP WHICH IS NOT EVEN CERTAIN...ADVISE YOUR CONFUSED CANDIDATES TO VISITS DELEGATES AT EVERY STATES AND STOP THE UNNECESSARY HATRED FOR THE SERIOUS ONES..

AS YOU CAN SEE, NO PARTY/SERIOUS CANDIDATES TAKE YOUR REGION THAT SERIOUS..I THINK U GUYS SHUD DIRECT YOUR ENERGY TO SOLVING THE SIT AT HOME/BIAFRA MADNESS GOING ON IN YOUR REGION BEFORE TALKING ABT PRESIDENCY..

THE FEAR OF YORUBA CANDIDATES IS THE BEGINNING OF EASTERNER CONFUSION, ANGER AND INVALID HATE.

You already know Tinubu's ambition is now up in smoke, with this new Igbo thinking.

No united south, if SE is not considered for the presidency in 2023.

Tinubu is going nowhere. The mentality now is different from the Igbo mentality when Falae and Obasanjo were vying for the position.

This is ballsy

A typical Igbo trait

[quote author=wwwihy post=112959423]Any Aspirant Whose State Is Being Ruled By The Opposition Doesn't Deserve The Party's Ticket.

- Hon Alhassan Ado Doguwa, APC HoR Leader


https://twitter.com/TinubuOclock/status/1526995410014900224[/quote]Let's hope Lawan's state is being ruled by APC then

deeva2:
THERE YOU GO AGAIN...UR INVALID HATRED FOR YORUBA CANDIDATES WUT CHANGE THE FACT THAT NORTHERN PRESIDENCY WILL STILL AND ALWYS FAVOUR THE SW MORE THAN SE IN ALL REMIFICATION...GET THAT FACT

Yes, let the northern presidency favour Yoruba. We don't care, for as long as Tinubu is not the president.

An Igbo man must be the president before a Yoruba man ever mounts the presidency again.

Okwyjesus:
Which south. SS/SW is on their own. SE is forming new alliance with NE to deliver Lawan.

Please remove SS from that union of vipers and backstabbers. This is a mess cause by the SW.

We in the SE will get the SS to see what is really happening, and hopefully join us in stopping the great betrayer of the South, Tinubu that is

olabright31:
So you expect APC to cede its ticket to South East with all the hate towards the party? That this is coming from you, an unrepentant enemy of APC shows alot. So you want APC to cede ticket to South East and you have been attacking the party. You guys are not even politically consistent. Why not go and rant on PDP rather than complaining about APC?

But the SE has two APC states. Weren't you guys saying that the two SE APC governors are a good thing for the SE, and it gives Igbos presence in the ruling party.

So now that you have enjoyed two states in the SE, you now want to cast them away, because your piss-full tin god is running.

Were Yorubas heavily in PDP when PDP chose OBJ as the presidential candidate?

Anyway, let it be known that if the presidency is not going to the SE, we in the SE will support a NE candidate. SW will never be supported.
We also want to check out the political clout you guys have been boasting about. Let us see Tinubu get the presidency, without the SE votes.

deeva2:
THIS PARASITIC Fulani ARE NO READY TO LEAVE POWER...ITS EITHER SOUTHERN PRESIDENCY OR WE DIVIDE PEACEFULLY OR VIOLENTLY..

THIS PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THE NATIONAL EQUITY OR BALANCING..THEY ARE JUST AFTER THEIR SELLFISH INTEREST.

It is either a president of SE origin (we can even consider a SS president also). Otherwise, let the north keep it.

SOUTHERN PRESIDENCY MY ASS!!!!!

For SEners, fighting for the south in this issue, is fighting for Tinubu to be president.

This is one fight the SE should not take the side of the south.

If Tinubu and Osibanjo cannot see the serious injustice of easterners not ruling the nation, let the SE also heavily support the signing of the amended electoral act.

Let us all be slaves in Nigeria

frankpro27:
I will rather support a Northern president than support anyone from the SS or SW

I may consider the SS, because they have really only been there for just 5 years.

But I will rather vote for a goat, than bring in Tinubu.

Tinubu will soon learn a brutal political lesson from the SS and SE

Newton2024:
If Igbos have the population you are portraying here, they won't have been struggling to get the position of a VP every four years. I love Igbos but I hate chest beating. Chest beating is too much for you people. It's your nature.

VP is a mere ceremonial post. It only benefits the family of the VP and his cronies. How has mere commissioner Osibande VP affect Ogun state? Ogun state is currently the worst state in south west in terms of governance, development and security.

How I wish you could see the hidden intention of Thief Orji Kalu. The billionaire thief is using igbos to fight his battle for relevance. Don't let polithiefcians deceive you. Apart from MNK and Peter Obi in south east, the rest are selfish criminals that would have been hung if it were in China or Japan.

If Tinubu becomes the president(which he will never be), I can guarantee you that Igbos will not be the president, coz Tinubu is not Igbo. Igbos will not get the vice presidency, because that position will be given to a northerner.
But if Lawan or Atiku becomes the president, the chances of an easterner becoming the VP increases.

Tinubu is not our man and will never be our man.
Tinubu has betrayed the south for his own selfish goals at every given opportunity
1. He betrayed the SS, by undermining Jonathan's second term.
2. He betrayed the SE in the current national assembly, which is why there is no Igboman in the top 6 of the country's hierarchy. He already knew Osibanjo will be the vice president, yet he worked hard to ensure an easterner never became the speaker of the lower house. So today, Yorubas have two positions in the top 6, and Igbos have none.
3. He is yet again, trying to betray the SE by not supporting a president from the SE.

And you expect the better south to work with an idiot of that nature.

It is better to get the VP position than not be represented in the top 6. It is better for the SE to get the VP position than for Tinubu to get the presidency, because he has proven time and time again, that he doesn't care about what happens to his fellow southerners.

Like I have been writing, SE and SS will force Buhari to carry on, rather than have even one day of Tinubu presidency.

The chickens are coming home to roost

Bluntemperor:
They are just disguising after settlement!
How I wish our brothers and politicians from Southeast had all condemned the bloodshed going on in the South East and proffered solutions a long time ago and be in fore front of a crime-free region,rather they were silent,instead waiting for last hour politicking!
So Mr Lawan is now Kaliu's friend,who was always approving loans brought before him at the Senate floor is your favourites now? How would he brings Nigeria back to a sound economic momentum level after the Debt of Trillion( both in Foreign Currencies and local Naira or is it the same oil in Nigeria we must hold on to! Many OPEC countries have left oil and moved to a strong economic development, including Saudi Arabia,UAE,Dubai!
Dubai especially is where most leaders in Nigeria and Africa normally go to enjoy illegal gotten money!
You see El-Rufai too, moving up and down- from Osinbajo to Tinubu now to Ameachi) possibly,he wants to be in control of those likely in power.
Mr Amaechi,who moved railway across Nigeria border is indeed a performer but has never told Nigerians how much has been spent on these Railway Lines Projects.We are yet to know the contracts-content,if it was written in Chinese- Mandarin language!
Remember how Ajaokuta Steel has become moribund due to the fact that it was written in Russian language and the Russians are not ready to compromised that contract.
No wander, industrialization can't be achieved in Nigeria,as everyone is using generators to power our businesses and homes!
Are we not supposed to know,as Masses,how the budgets-were spent by these Policians?
Many people are ready to blame the Federal government but most States government in Nigeria have nothing to show for NBILLIONS received from quarterly-Allocations,hence the Youths are frustrated!
Na wao for Nigerian politicians!
It seems we are used to the policians deception!
Indeed,we are in a very interesting times.
God help Nigeria!

Wasn't it the same Tinubu that supported Lawan to the senate presidency?

You can cry as much as you want. Everyone has a level of .madness and Igbos will display theirs in 2023.

Tinubu brought in Buhari and Lawan and Yorubas want him to be made the president. Now that Igbos are showing a little support to Tinubu's boy (Lawan), Afonjas now want Igbos to disregard Lawan because of his dull performance in the senate

Newton2024:
How has VP position better Yoruba lives? Osibande is just an errand boy in Aso Rock. How can you bring in your own Fulani with inconsequential 5% votes? Igbos's votes is reducing geometrically since 2003 and it will continue to reduce further.

Think whatever you like. Igbos make up about 40% of Lagos and a substantial population in every state of the federation.

The Igbo population in Lagos and Abuja will ensure that any northern candidate will not get less than 25% of the votes in those two key areas.
Additionally, 11 states of the SE and SS will stick in the knife, in the heart of Yoruba presidential journey. Don't worry, Igbos will make sure our SS brothers understand what is afoot, and they will troop in with us to vote against Tinubu, the great betrayer of the south

aribisala0:
Has he come t ask for Eeboe votes?

That should tell you he does not think your votes are relevant? I really do not understand all these frustrated announcements? Did you vote Abiola or Awolowo? We know you have always been envious and hateful of Yorubas but we do not notice you yet you are very desperate for attention . I pity you folk

Chai see painment

Anyway both Abiola and Awolowo were never declared presidents. What does that tell you?

Listen and listen well. A Yoruba man will never become the president until an Igboman becomes the president.

Yorubas are looking into oblivion. Try Igbos and see. You are about to see

We will make you pay for the betrayal you people heaped on GEJ from the SS And we will make you pay for your selfishness in not wanting to support another southern zone for the presidency, when Yorubas have already spent 16 years in the presidency since 1999

Guyman02:
5% plus North

That's the maths

Newton2024:
Another eight years of Fulani herdsmen terr-orists may push yeebos into extinction. Look at how Buratai, Abba Kyari, Nigeria army, etc have been dealing with you people. Do you want this to continue for another eight or sixteen years?

If Lawan comes in, an Igbo is likely to be his vice president. We will be alright.

But anyway Yorubas brought in the their Fulani in 2015. There is nothing wrong in Igbos bringing in their own Fulani in 2023

Emekaonline:
THis Kalu is a bloody hypocrite. When did they vote for Obasanjo? was it not after beating is brother Ekwueme in the primary? You want what you never gave to others. Only a fool and idiot does that. Ekwueme conetsted with OBJ, you are also free to contest with others. After the primary you can then ask to be voted for as you did for OBJ. Nonsense!

Kali supported OBJ in the primary, against his own brother.

Bottom line is that Igbos will not vote for Tinubu. Take this to the bank

LegendHero:
MKO Abiola did. He won an election without the Ibos. Even on a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

Now back to you, no Ibo man has ever came second in a national presidential election before. That shows how useless your vote is.

If your vote can't make you come second (I am not even talking of first) in an election since 1979, then why would you claim you are politically relevant?

Well, my state voted for Abiola. But still he never became president, and the results were not fully announced. So I still stand by my postulations.

All through the 50s and 60s, Zik's party was constantly coming first or second.

Presently, the SS has had a taste of your backstabbing tendencies, so Tinubu is running a loosing game there.

For th first time in the history of the south,. Igbos are making it clear they will not vote for a Yoruba man. Now that's something