₦airaland Forum

Pakute:
Atiku promised to hand over to Ibos?.. Your mumu button is too soft. So, who are Ibos voting for, Obi or Atiku?..
Anyways, three things are constant in life; the air we breathe, the daylight and APC retaining power.

If APC retains power through Lawan, or if PDP grabs power through Atiku, both scenarios guarantee that Tinubu will not be the president.

Yorubas and Tinubu believed that Buhari will hand power over to Tinubu in 2023. I believe I also have the right to make the same old mistake. I refuse to learn from Yoruba people's mistakes.
What this all means is that Igbos will not be supporting Tinubu

sogodihno:
You are saying thrash. If you genuinely believe Atiku will handover to Igbo in case he becomes president, don't worry, your sense will soon come back

Well I know for sure Tinubu will never ever hand over to an Igbo.
So let me at least believe the lie coming from Atiku, than the reality coming from Tinubu.

sogodihno:
22 years servitude not even VP position.

No be juju be that?

Didn't we already tell you charcoal blackies that, if the SE doesn't get the presidency, we will support the NE in getting it.
That is our primary mission.
All these changing of goalpost won't work.

I don't even mind that much if Tinubu gets the VP slot, but I say a definite HELL NO, when it comes to him getting the presidency.

Tinubu will never be the president. Know this and know peace

Atiku has already promised to hand over to an Igbo man when he is done, which I imagine will be in 8 years time. I'm not paying huge attention to the 4 year limit he mentioned.

Our game is going according to plan.

If APC nominates Tinubu, then Atiku will definitely win.
If APC nominates Lawan, we Igbos will still have a stake in it, as our nigga OUK is covering grounds in that bitch.

aribisala0:
During the 60s
For how long Exactly did the NCNC reign? 2 years
The whole midwest referendum was part of the Eboe sense that you think you have . NCNC along with NPC threw Awo in jail and arranged a sham referendum in the MidWest whilst suppressing agitations in the Niger Delta, Cross River and Middle belt and rigged elections in the West .It did not last did it?

Come 1979 UPN took over Bendel state under Ambrose Alli and Abiola won it in 1993

And a few years ago, Edo came to the PDP fold, totally rejecting Tinubu.

And fyi AG never governed Midwest region

jagorinho:
Another post laced with watery chest beating, please do care for your ribs in the process of this your chestbeating. The summary is, you and your people are inconsequential in the scheme of things in this country, you can't even play the role of a spoiler successfully because offline you are nothing, always making unnecessary noise online bunch of cowards who expects presidency on a platter.....sucks to be you.

Yoruba 8 year programme of undermining the south in other to get the presidency is being scuttled by Igbos, and you are there talking crap

PrinceOfLagos:
Unfortunately bro, politics and tribalism goes hand to hand in this present day politics in Nigeria

Wike played tribal politics with Igbos but it backfired

What sort of tribal politics, when Wike had already announced to the public that he's not Igbo?

Anyway .Illinois of Igbo voters will not be joining Wike in his political adventures with Tinubu.

Lawan or Atiku will get the presidency. Obi has an outside chance

Igboid:
.Atiku was willing to withdraw from the race if only SW and SS PDP led by Wike agreed on zoning not to the South, but specifically to the SE.
Wike and co rejected that option and instead preferred to have an open to all comers scenario than standing on justice for SE.

https://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/2023-ill-step-down-if-pdp-zones-presidency-to-southeast-atiku/

Wike has not earned the right to complain about Northern domination, when his zone SS have been given PDP presidential candidate ticket twice!

Wike is in my opinion crying more than the bereaved (SE) .

You must have read one of my previous writeups.

aribisala0:
If one is bathing and a mad man comes and snatches his clothes and runs should one chase after the mad man naked?

That is exactly the position I find myself here.
Advise me
Bendel sate was run by Awo's UPN not Zik's NPP from 1979-1983

Was the whole of Bendel state Igbo ?
I clearly stated THE IGBO PART OF DELTA STATE.

And btw , during the 60s,. NCNC ruled Midwest region.

aribisala0:
Delta State was part of the old Western region and Bendel state

they consistently voted Awolowo and were governed by Action Group so stop that heavy Igbo presence deceit

He lost where the Eboe presence was heaviest.

The Igbo part of Delta state were heavily in NCNC. They fought fiercely for the Midwest region.

They don't give a crap about Awolowo.
Anambra and Delta, two heavily Igbo populated states, made Abiola the president

Corporate2020:
The map shows that Yorubas do not need Igbos 5% inconsequential votes to be president.

If you wan vex, make you vex. Me self, I dey vex

But Anambra and Delta states with heavy Igbo presence voted for Abiola. I'm sure if Abiola had lost those two states, he would have lost

muykem:
if Tiunbu finally becomes president, will you commit suicide?

Yes I will commit suicide, if both you and Tinubu kill each other. I have to verify it personally, at your expense

adanny01:
Buhari won twice despite the "disunity" in SW.

There will be more voter apathy in SE than anywhere in Nigeria. A lot of Igbos already feel disappointed with Atiku winning the primaries instead of an Igbo.

SS has more APC supporters now than ever before.

Atiku has always struggled to win his home state Adamawa and even his own NE, it won't change now.

Nothing new will come from the NW and NC for either side.

Checking history, since 1999, only one president (GEJ 2011) won without absolutely winning a single state in NW (7states). NW and SW are the swing regions being the most populous but the feat by GEJ was a defiance.

Atiku won't win NW or SW and would split NE and NC while SE has the least votes and SS will get an increase for APC votes.

In summary, the big votes are for APC, Atiku can't win piling up small states.

Igbos always make an impact in states outside the SE, especially in places like Lagos and Abuja.

Igbo votes are heavy in places like Rivers state and to a lesser extent, in Delta state.

I don't expect Bayelsa to vote for Tinubu. The man that sabotaged their son.

APC will only win this election if they field another northerner. Igbos have already given the NE a moral go-ahead.

Tinubu's path to the presidency is blocked. Even though Peter Obi will not win, his chances are brighter than that of Tinubu

adanny01:
I don't see Atiku winning the presidential race especially with Igbo VP. An Igbo on the ticket is bad market.

The SW see an opportunity, to have it for themselves and we know they have never work well with SE. While the North is also bitter for the killings in SE. The NW is also looking at it as a turn for the South which power should return to the NW after 8yrs. If Atiku becomes president, the earliest the NW gets it is after 16yrs.

Atiku is bad market, Igbo is bad market too. APC is the only thing I see unfortunately.

Igbos cannot be hostile and still demand seats.

I can assure you now that Yorubas are also bad market. The disunity in the south has ensured that.
Previously the SE and SS will not mind voting for the SW, but as of today, I can assure you that the SW is bad market. That is why Tinubu is now having huge problems. His problems will quadruple, if he emerges the candidate.

He does not have the resources to bribe tens of millions of voters,

duro4chang:
Unlike other zones, NC has no leaders. They are different people put together by Nigerian arrangement. They are not united. They have never worked together to achieve a goal. Kwara and Benue not the same. Plateau and Niger not the same. Do your opinion on that issue will not work. They have never produced the president not VP since 1999 and they did not complain.

There are ways of doing these things.

Look for a prominent person from the NC who is half Tiv and half Igala. By so doing, you mount a heavy challenge to two NC states.

Now to make this more electric, PO can shortlist the names of such NC individuals and send the list to the umbrella socio-cultural organisation of the NC, and also give the list to the SESSSWMB alliance which has as members, socio-cultural organisations of the SE, SS, SW and the middlebelt.
It could be made a media event to greatly grab the attention of the NC heavyweights and it will give them a sense of belonging, in what PO is doing, and will publicize the whole process in a way that will bring in the needed emotional and psychological loyalty of the NC.

The person will obviously have to be a muslim.

By the time PO is done with this, come and see buzz

JavaScript90:
You don't get the memo. He was mocking the Tinubu supporter

Of course, I got the memo. I was just adding my own levels to it

Strategically, if I were him, I will pick my VP candidate from the NC.

The reason being that the NE will heavily vote for PDP and APC as their sons are likely to emerge as both parties' candidates.

But NC has no clear horse to back in both the APC and PDP, so if a VP of NC origin emerges in LP, more votes from the NC will go to the LP.

I don't expect PO to win, but if he plays his cards right, he will make a good showing

BSdetective:
Nothing wasted. We've produced two presidents and a vice president, we've set up a region security force, a rail-line connecting two of our biggest cities, and our region is also home to the biggest refinery in Africa and we are moving slowly towards restructuring, the south west is fairly the most peaceful and prosperous in the country compared to other regions. How is has the south east done in this past 8 years? Lol.....I have no issues with north holding on to power.

Since Yorubas got into power 8 years ago, a lot of stuff in the SE don go jagajaga.

That is one of the reasons we intend to ensure Tinubu never becomes the president in 2023

DoggoneDogg:
I will advise Peter Obi to pick Tinubu as his VP
He has the capacity

The north will kick against an all-southern presidency.

But Obi can make him a special adviser though

BSdetective:
Yeah right.....remove the SE from that cus they ain't getting shiit. And either or not tinubu becomes president isn't an issue .....as long as igbos don't smell the position, keep blaming him for the foolish leaders in your region.

The bolded is a major issue.
Tinubu and his fellow Yorubas betrayed the south in 2015 so that he will become the president in 2023.
By 2023, we will all know whether the Yorubas and Tinubu wasted nearly 10 years

The 5%ers seem to be rubbing Tinubu the wrong way. Let us know how effective this una Jagaban dey.

OUK is about to whoop his ass in APC also.

OUK ma nigga

BSdetective:

https://www.nairaland.com/7152596/2023-compensate-south-east-vp-position

Tinubu won't win come 2023 ooo, but even VP position igbos no go see ... South East or north continues and PDP has answered their prayer by giving them Atiku a northerner, God's blessing would be complete if Atiku's VP is either from the SS or SW

South East or north continues.

God's blessing will continue if the VP ticket is given to either SE or SS.

Tinubu not becoming the president will be the icing on the cake. The same guy that fought tooth and nail to ensure the SE is not represented in the top 6 positions of the country.

Aderewah:
SS delegates voted Wike
SouthWest delegates voted Wike

All in line with Southern presidency agenda

South East voted Atiku.
We are watching.

SW voted Atiku.
Didn't you see Fayose standing by Atiku.

A few SEners voted for Atiku, but the vast majority voted for Wike, with some voting for the other SE candidates

What a piece of news.


It seems since Soludo won the governorship of Anambra, real heavy hitters are joining up and winning tickets.

Former minister Nweke for Enugu state
Gideon Orka coup sponsor Great Ogboru for Delta state
Prof. Greg Ibe for Abia state

These are solid moves

fyneguy:
Lol See as you dey yarn as if na you dey determine who win Presidential election tey tey.

Noisemakers just full everywhere lol

You are not happy that Tinubu's name is no longer dominating airwaves with regards to serious contenders to the 2023 presidential election.

I believe a new election will be held

duro4chang:
No lie you yourself go vote at least for PDP.

All these una reverse psychology tings no dey work again.

Maybe that's why Tinubu is doing what he is doing, but he is about to realise that he is only the jagaban of the Yorubas.

Winning123:
I knew all along that you folks will play the role of spoilers. At the end of the day, last last, the zone will still lose out.

The SE will still loose out if they don't play the spoilers. So there is no harm in playing the spoiler now, just the same way the SW did it in 2015.

The SE has nothing to loose

muykem:
Average Easterners emotional reasoning. Wait for Atiku to announce his VP and if the person is not from South South or South West, I will not comment on nairaland again.

I don't mind if the person is from the SS. I have just heard names like Okowa and Udom bandied about.

I even prefer those individuals to Peter Obi. I even only mentioned Peter Obi as I imagined their long-standing relationship could turn into a VP offer for Obi.

I even prefer Wike being offered the VP slot to a SWner.

The game is still going well.

Bottom line is that Tinubu will not be the president. I will even accept a SW VP over Tinubu being the president. That is the goal.

One thing is clear. The north no longer considers your threat seriously now That is the starting point. It will get juicier for you all

udele1:
It will be easier for PDP to win with Muslim Muslim ticket, than for Tinubu to become president under APC.

You are very correct with the above statement.

Hopefully, if Atiku manages to secure an alliance with LP, Peter Obi can get the VP slot

The plan is sailing smoothly.

If the SE doesn't get it, let the NE get it.
With the withdrawal of GEJ, Igbos will only support a SE or NE presidential bid.

Atiku should get into serious negotiations with Peter Obi's Labour party, and hopefully try and secure an alliance that will result in Peter Obi getting the VP slot

I don't mind if the person is from the SS. I have just heard names like Okowa and Udom bandied about.

I even prefer those individuals to Peter Obi. I even only mentioned Peter Obi as I imagined their long-standing relationship could turn into a VP offer for Obi.

So you are prescribing a Muslim-Muslim ticket for PDP ?

It won't fly

mrvitalis:
This ohaneze don't still get it ...north has no business here absolutely no business ..I don't blame north one bit

Biggest mistake Igbos keep making is thinking we have brothers in south south or south west ...we don't they don't like us and only pretend to when then need us simple

South south that we supported how far did they pay us back ?
South west that we backed how did they pay us back ?

Forget north the body language of our southern neighbors was clear , ...

I don't even blame the SS that much, because for many years, and up till just a few months ago, they were solidly behind the 2023 SE presidency project, but because Tinubu and Osibanjo were already in the field, weakening the SE claim, after a while they fell into the bandwagon, as they felt Tinubu and the SW that had a weaker claim to the presidency than the SS, may well become successful in their usurpation. That was generally why SS presidential aspirants started emerging over the past few months.

But as of today, no SS person has ever disparaged the SE claim. They may disparage individuals, but never the SE claim.

It is only the SW players that have been solidly against the SE emerging, which is why I am happy that the NW is now staking their claim, especially now that they know the south is not united.
A SEner or a SSner will rather go to hell, than support Tinubu.

Believe you me, it is far better for the NW to take the presidency, than the SW. This is the same Tinubu that worked hard to ensure no Igbo man ever made it into the top 6 positions of the country.
The best move for Igbos to make now is to make sure Tinubu does not emerge, even if it means backing any of the NW candidates.
The SS has really only been there for just about 5 years, so they still have a slither of a claim.

Alphagan:
No, reverse is the case!

We don't care where your allegiance lies. In history, Igbos have only voted a Yoruba candidate once. In fact, they did that because they knew the candidate wasn't being supported by the mainstream Yorubas.

Igbos voted against Awolowo

Igbos voted against Abiola

Igbos voted against Olu Falae.

Any Yoruba banking on Igbo support is a political neophyte.

You don't support us and as such don't expect our support, not now or later.

If North keeps power for the next 100years, be rest assured, whenever it is coming to the South, a strong Yoruba man will always be available to slug it out with the rest of the South.

Perish the thought of microzoning, it is an entitlement taken too far...it will NEVER happen. Support whosoever you wish, not that you were going to support SW to begin with, so, it makes no difference.

Why should Igbos support Awolowo, when we had Zik to support?

Why should Igbos support Falae, when we supported OBJ, who happens to be another Yoruba man in the same election?

Igbos supported Obasanjo in the 1999 and 2003 presidential elections. OBJ is a staunch Yoruba.

Give me an instance of where the Yorubas ever supported any Igbo person in a presidential election.

Igbos supported Yaradua in the 2007 presidential election.

Igbos supported GEJ in the 2011 and 2012 presidential election.

Yorubas must never again see the presidency before an Igbo man. You can take that to the bank.

Your Jagaban peepoos president is clowning at the moment. We will expect to seem him foist himself as the Nigerian president. It will never happen again. The whole world can be destroyed, but no bleeping Yoruba man will ever rule Nigeria, ever again. An Igbo man must rule, before we can ever allow that to happen. Take this to the bank.