₦airaland Forum

JEITO:
Do they have a beef with God

They must be feed up of hearing the word "God", with all the atrocities people commit in the name of God.

Op you can try

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cheruv:
they said...
Nigerians are going into 2015 with these personality options viz

one is a fool surrounded by id1ots while the other is an id1ot surrounded by fools

now the million dollar/$1M question is BTW Yonatan and buhari who's the id1ot and who's the fool

Jonathan is the fool, sorrounded by Id1ots. He had the power of the presidency for 4 yrs he could not use it to crush the enemies of the country and he is sorrounded by fools who could not guide him on how to go about crushing our enemies, even if it means doing a single term at the end of the day.

Buhari and the other APC candidates are the fools surrounded by Id1ots. Buhari is a fool because he thinks he can deceive Nigerians into believing he has something to offer and that we will not find them out before the elections. They are sourronded by id1ots who lack moral values. Who are ready to associate with any character just for a chance to have access to the treasury. Those id1ots in one hand say PDP is bad and at thesame time go on all fours begging pdp candidates to come to their party.

hifaif:
See misguided statement. You don't even know if you would survive those four years of northern killing.

Continue to under rate the present situation in the North and think you are safe because the killings aren't happening near you.

Guy, It is between the devil and the deep blue see. Take a pick.

It is guaranteed that the SS will cause serious problem if Jonathan is not there.
It is also likely that the North can be pipe low after seeing that the last 4 years of violence did not give them the presidency. Also the northern politicians will start positioning for 2019 if they lose in 2015. Some of them will want to be in the good books of the FG so as to be considered as candidates in 2019 and hence the killing in the north will not get maximum support from the Northerners.

So to me getting a Northern president in 2015 will cause more problem for the country than keeping Jonathan.

But there is a 3rd option which the OP did not bring up. If we get another southern president in 2015, then the scenario changes. Someone like Fashola or Oshiomole will get some southern support and prevent wholesale trouble in the SS. But for those to emerge they need the backing of the North, so with that northern backing, we will not be seeing the north fighting them.

Good write up but too many falacies.

You say if we vote A, Nigeria is finishe, if we vote B nigeria is also Finished. You are very wrong in that assertion.

If we vote out Jonathan, then Nigeria will be in a bigger economic problem than if we do not vote him out.
The SS will simply want to start from where they stopped in 2009.

If we vote in Jonathan, I doubt if the North will do more than they are already doing, kill themselves. The Northerners has been killing since the 60's, the country survived, we can survive another 4 years of northern killing. But can we survive another 4 years of SS agitation in a low oil price scenario?

Also with Jonathan no longer needing the Northern vote after the elections, he can unleash the full strength of the military against the terrorists up north without fear of truncating his political ambitions. This will make Jonathan continuing beyond 2015 to be the more peaceful option.

donphilopus:
Lemme let you know now that to bribe National Delegates is the most difficult thing in Politics. I was surprised when I heard that a very Senior Lawyer from my Community is a National Delegate. He happens to be in the APC BoT. The man does not depend on anybody's money to cast his vote for him. Most of the Delegates are Charismatic People. I'd enjoy you not to just believe that Atiku can by that Ticket with money!

Atiku can not bribe any delegate for vote. He will only use money to convince them for vote for him.

Buhari will only know how far when they start counting the votes. He should ensure he wears dark glasses on that day to hide the tears. I don't want to see the tears of a general.

I don't know of any online business. Why not focus on your studies during the session and do vacation job during holidays.

If you need money seriously during the session, I think you can think of doing part time job. Taking home tutoring of primary and secondary school students might be one way to start. You could also be a part time teacher in any nearby private school.

I wonder why many yorubas are always saying Jonathan government marginalised them. Can someone please educate me on which areas Jonathan government had marginalised the yorubas.

As far as I can see the government has not really unfairly favoured any region. The pdp tried to give the speaker position to the yorubas, but the yorubas on their own gave it out.

One really wonders about what is happening? Will the yoruba man really vote us back into bondage to the born to rule Fulanis ?

Swallow this at your own risk. You did not tell people the risk in the business, just glorious fairy tales.

you can vote pdp out if you think they have not benefitted you, but replacing the current setup with someone like buhari who is shamelessly pro north is a no-no to me.

APC has nationalists they can present to the people, if they choose to present ethnic leaders, then they lose my vote

legacy indeed. Incase you do not know the Injustice Buhari committed against southerners while at the helm of the PTF, let me reproduce the submission to the Oputa panel on his conduct at PTF. Read below the Afenifere submission to the oputa panel, maybe you will know a little more about your idol, Buhari and that he really does not care about any southerner.

"PTF Projects: The Abacha regime created a parallel government through the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) headed by Major General Muhammed Buhari. Nothing else typifies the marginalisation of the Yoruba than the lopsidedness of the projects carried out by the PTF. Figures from PTF Situation Reports (Vol. 2 Dec. 98) show that the PTF carried on as if there was no South West.

Of all the roads rehabilitated by he PTF, only 1984.5 kilometres of roads representing 10.84 per cent were carried out in the South West; from where the bulk of the PTF revenue came since the zone consumes over 60 per cent of refined petroleum products. All the Southern States had 4,440.43 kms or 24 per cent of road rehabilitation as against 13,870.47 kms or 76 per cent in the Northern States zone three comprising the North-West States of Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Sokoto and Zamfara had a lion share of 5020 kms or 27.42 per cent because the Fund’s Chairman, Buhari and the military dictator Sani Abacha were from there; zone four comprising the North-East States of Adamawa, Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Taraba and Yobe picked 23.48 per cent. This is the zone where Salihijo Ahmed, the late Chief Executive of Afri-Project Consortium APC, the sole consultants that supervised all PTF projects came from.

Figures in other sectors were more scandalous. For instance, under the National Health and Educational Rehabilitation Programme (NHERP), the South West had zero allocation in the tertiary programme, while the North picked 100 per cent. In the vocational programme, the South West had zero while the North had 97 per cent. In the primary area, the South-West had zero against 88 per cent for the North and in the secondary area, it was zero for the South-West and 86 per cent for the North.

The health sector is similar. For the Teaching Hospitals, the South-West had zero while the North had 62 per cent. For the Specialist Hospitals, it was zero for the South-West and 71 per cent for the North; in General/State Hospitals the Yoruba had nothing while the North had 56 per cent for health clinics, it was zero for the South-West against the North’s 100 per cent.

Under the food supply summary, the Southwest had 7.26 per cent compared with 83 per cent for the North, Buhari’s zone having 60.54 per cent to itself."

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20061228122222zg/nigeria-watch/all-about-the-oputa-panel-hrvic/nigeria-has-persecuted-the-yoruba-submission-of-afenifere-to-the-human-rights-violations/

akinsadeez:
But isn't it really a witch hunt? What happened to Alison Madueke, the petroleum minister that was indicted of mismanaging public funds. She refused to appear before the senate despite being aware of the senate summon. Did Jonathan not tacitly support her despite the Senate's public outcry? Remember how long he took before reluctantly showing the former aviation minister, Stella oduah the way out and even till now she has not been prosecuted neither has she given account of how she spent a whooping 255 million naira on bullet proof cars. Those behind the missing 20billion or 10 billion naira have been shown till now.
With all the above, if Jonathan decides to prosecute El-rufai based on d senate report, it is nothing other than a political witch hunt. He cannot choose some senate reports to act on and reject others and still expect to be seen as fair.

Are you comparing 32 billion Naira, Hell Rufai cornered for himself to 255million used in buying bullet proof cars?

Are you sure you know the difference between billions and millions?

tuborme:
The court only attends to the complainant, the APC refused to complain when their members defected....PDP presently has a case against its members who defected to the APC in the court. The court's inability to make a pronouncement on the matter is the reason for the current constitional crisis. In the developed world, the defection of any member of parliament automatically causes an election for the lawmaker's seat.

The reason is because people are expected to vote lawmakers based on their party leaning and party manifestos and not personality. When a conservative zone votes in a member because of his conservative party, and he defects to a liberal party later...it is believed that the conservative view of the majority of that zone is no longer being represented.

We need to get things right in this country so that democracy can work for us.

You are wasting your time trying to make these dull people understand.

You vote in someone on a platform, believing the manifesto of such a platform, and the next day he moves to an alien party. Yet some silly people are insisting that he keeps his sit in the house. who is he representing in the house, certainly not those who voted for him.

SuperMartins:
Nigeria is in pains..people die like its normal and nothing serious is been done abt it till it becomes worse off

Killing in the North has been normal since 1966, why did it become abnormal all of a sudden?

Can you count the amount of religious riots that has happened in the North in the last 40 yrs and the number of people killed?

Killing is normal up north, lets move to the next topic

dat9jaguy:
Wrong,what is the sense in creating wealth for a nation if at the end it is stolen through corruption.The logical step is plug your leakage
so that your bucket will fill on time.

This is very simple logic, think of individual wealth, have you seen anyone who became extremely wealthy by minimising waste?
People become wealthy by generating more income than they consume. To be wealthy you need to engage in profitable economic activity. Shouting no corruption does not always translate to economic wealth. Rather individual economic wealth can trigger better anti corruption policies as wealthy citizens can more easily challenge obnoxious policies that breed corruption.

There are many countries with little corruption but yet are in deep shit. Think of Ghana for example, With a good corruption rating from Transparency international of 63/ 177 compared to Nigeria's position of 144/177, Nigeria economy is growing while Ghana's is economy is almost in junk status. Another example is cuba, with a good corruption rating of 63/177, the cuban economy is still in the wilderness.

Vote for candidates that have the better economic policies, good economic policies can lift millions out of poverty in a short while, singing anti-corruption does not easily translate into wealth creation.

Will be nice if you can get pictures.

But do it discretely so that they do not boko you

dat9jaguy:
The first step in achieving a great nation is to plug waste so that enough money can be channeled to developmental projects.Having said that,i believe
we need this man to clean up the stable,after which a more cerebral president can take over to push for development.

Wrong.

The 1st step is creating wealth for the citizens on the country. Even if we eliminate all corruption, which has not been done anywhere in the world, and still earn 50 billion dollars a year as foreign exchange income for 170 million people, we will still be a poor country. Because 50 billion usd per year for 170 million is equivalent to 80 us cents a day per person. This income still puts us in the poverty category.

What we need is someone who can galvanise NNigerians to engage more on economic activities that will generate more income.

Buhari knows next to nothing about economics, his regime in the early 80's set the stage for the destruction of the economy as importation of many vital industrial raw materials where prohibited by him leading to the collapse of industries.

Do Nigerians resign?

He should tell us the truth of what happened, not this crap of saving the reason is personal

Nice topic. Hope someone comes along to do justice to the questions