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AntilsIam:
Sebi you are not blind to see where it says to protect themselves against the mainly Muslim rebels

Slave, anti balaka is not a terrorist group for protecting themselves against your seleka terrorists attack

They protected themselves to the extent of sending Muslims into exile?

Super protector indeed. How do you reason? From your reverse or what?

You Christians and westerners can continue your bias, injustice and deceit very clearly the truth is getting revealed

AntilsIam:
Persecution is different from terrorism, your brain ought to have tell you this before now


Apostles were killed because they refused to denial Jesus Christ..

Your seleka are killing Christians simply because they want power, simply because they want a Muslim as president. This is different from persecution.

Slave, at this your age I don't think I have to be telling you this if your medulla oblongata is not faulty

Like a knee jerk and without reasoning you just type or vomit thrash. So the apostles of Jesus were not terrorized by the existing government?

The Christians defended themselves to the extent of becoming the aggressors themselves isn't it? Did the Séléka not form due to their earlier oppression by Christians and the president?

When one side reacts it's fine but not the other? Indeed you're an Ogre of bias

Baldwretch:
Sorry, for some reasons beyond me, my response took longer than normal because I have been offline since I last made this post. Apologies! Give it to me woto-woto!

A liar repeatedly reminds his listeners that what he is saying is the truth. Try to cross-examine a cheat and a liar and you would sooner find out that he's repeatedly reinforcing the false idea that all the facts on ground as presented by himself is true. It's all smoke and mirrors. It happens all the time. Unfortunately, that is not very much different from what we have here.

You start off your argument based on what the Quran says about itself. Have you ever met a vendor who would honestly admit that his wares is very terrible, and below quality? Not very many! Most men think others are bad and vile, but themselves. Why should Muhammad be any different?

How very convenient to use the Quran to prove that it is God who inspired Muhammad to write it! How very convenient to use the words of Muhammad to prove that it is God who possessed him in the writing of it! I have to ask you again though, is that how you argue to the truth of this question I asked? Namely, that the spirit that possessed Muhammad is of God and not from other sources?

You are not appealing to the truth; your appeal is more to the claims the Quran makes about itself which is independent of the truth. Experience should teach you that claims are not necessarily true and even your claims are very unfalsifiable. Very, very circular argument.

You state a premise. Draw an argument that is independent of the premise and then use the premise to prove that your argument is true. Which kind thing be this na!


Could we verify that a particular angel is of God or is of the Devil by the metaphysical powers or influence surrounding how they were revealed to us? NO! If the devil sent his entourage, a company of angels, he would also exercise a mighty metaphysical grip upon you that is just enough to make you believe whatever.

Could we know whether the angel before us is of God or is of the devil by the great powers that enabled us to identify them? NO! Metaphysical influence can be terribly strong and not find its source in God. Just because you find yourself grappling under great powers does not mean it is necessarily of God. The Devil has great powers too. When God performed mighty miracles before Pharaoh shortly before he was destroyed, Pharaoh's magicians did the same. Could you identify God's snake or the Devil's snake as they lay on the floor? NO! Are both of divine origin? YES! Is it easy to mistake one for the other? Yes. Why? They both exercise metaphysical influence. I could go on and on with countless examples.

The Quran's teaching are not deeply moral. They are not. They are at variance with the bible. They tend to contradict what moral codes has been laid down for God's worshipers as it pertains to our obligations to God. And besides, morality is worthless if God is not the source of the morality. Two folks might agree on certain etiquette for different reasons. It is a common phenomenon. For instance, the Quran seems to agree with the Torah on one ceremonially unclean animal, the pig. Both scriptures agree, but for different reasons. It seems to me that the Quran forbids the pig due to its perceived uncleanliness (the pig, you know what I mean) whereas the Bible forbids it for an entirely different reasons - not chewing the cud.

Here, you can see that both scripture agree but they do not really agree.

What is preventing men from wife-sharing if the Quran says - yes, a man can re-marry his divorced wife even if she had remarried whereas the bible forbids it. It seems to me that the justice, kindness, and ethical standards you are talking about is all in your head. This is chaos-violence pro-max. I created a thread on God's order and counter order using two creatures - the sea creatures and the camel. No Muslim has been able to refute me. Maybe you can do that in the thread here since you think God is a deity who contradicts himself.

The Quran would definitely command worship of a monotheistic, sovereign God because the human psyche naturally frowns at the idea of multiple gods or the idea of the gods having a son. Our psyche frowns at that. We cherish the idea of a powerful, all-wise, omniscient deity. This cringey attitude from the Quran is very much expected just as it cringes at the consumption of pork (pig meat). That doesn't make it true, though. The truth is independent of what we think. It's just like sports lovers who would tell you that the losing team, Team Y, would not want to lose the return leg of a football match because they lost the first leg. However, what they want is irrelevant and doesn't conclusively determine the outcome of the game. Even if the Quran forbids falsehood, it is for different reason than the God of the bible.The Quran might forbid falsehood because it creates a rippling disturbance in the community; meanwhile, the Jewish God would do same for different reasons.

Spreading of Islam, you say. Lol. How many people have to believe a lie for it to become true? One hundred, or maybe one thousand, a million, a trillion? It doesn't matter that many people believe it or spread its claims. All of them can still be guilty of spreading the wrong religion. Appealing to popularity is not so wise.

Sorry, I could not quote your write-up piece by piece because I am running out of time.

The Qur'an serves not just as a religious scripture but also as a deep well of moral guidance for its adherents. Its teachings emphasize key virtues such as justice, honesty, compassion, humility, patience, gratitude, forgiveness, charity, modesty, and the importance of refraining from slander, all of which play a crucial role in shaping the personal and social behavior of a believer.

Quran 5:8:
O believers! Stand firm for Allah and bear true testimony. Do not let the hatred of a people lead you to injustice. Be just! That is closer to righteousness. And be mindful of Allah. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what you do.

Interesting you turn your bald retching to questioning if Angel Gabriel;Jibril a. s, who brought the Quran to Muhammad pbuh being an impostor. How would you rather authenticate his identity?

Have you yourself actually ever seen an angel?

AntilsIam:
Anything outside britanicca on this matter, is a lie

Is it not in your Brittanica or you couldn't read that?

https://www.britannica.com/place/Central-African-Republic/The-21st-century


Surely if they follow the advice of Jesus there would have been difference and peace.

AntilsIam:
You don't get it, read this again but this time gently

Should Christians fold their hands while you terrorists slaves and followers of Muhammad keep on sending them to grave untimely because they want to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ?

Just answer YES or NO

How did the apostles who were with Jesus react to persecution?

You are a Sophist, Demagogue.

I hope you are familiar with these words?

MightySparrow:
You mean Yusuf Irọ́pọ̀jù?

That fellow can lie?


The same goes for those of you forming Bible scholars here on Nairaland.

Yusuf Irọ́pọ̀jù would gather his illiterate congregation and be shouting Allie Akbar.


What pains me in all these is the reasonable Muslims you guys smear with careless posts.

It is not in us to mock any religion but certain of you look for trouble.

Once again, apologies to reasonable Muslims on Nairaland.

With your last statement it is clear you put up your original post for no genuine reason but to seek mischief and mockery.

What did you feign asking again?

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxR-kuCHagi8xe2aOV4WqSLtfX5Sn4XxtI?si=KEGyXrxh61mM_NSE

I have heard the Islam believes that Jesus is مسيح, masīḥ. In this very short video, the poster asked very important questions that I will like Muslim in the house to answer.
The video is about a minute.

Clearly in your studies or interactions here on Nairaland you already know the answers.
It betrays you to call Yusuf a liar when you claimed the video was a minute and I show you the video is actually over 4 minutes.

You talk about someone lying but what did you yourself do?

Matthew 7:3-5
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Please read your Bible and follow Jesus in it first.

MightySparrow:
I made a minute clip I thought I posted. However, respond to the questions.

You made a minute clip from Aeropagus Apologetics clip or you are the former?
You edited what he originally put up into a minute or what?

AntilsIam:
Are you under the demonic spirit of dementia?

You said this:



And I responded by saying:




And you responded again with this:



Is that the correct response to give if your brain is working perfectly?

You are a waste of time and energy but I don't blame you anyways, you are showing us the characteristics of a slave allah made you to be

Again you show that your depth of thought is rather shallow.

Did you for a moment look into what Scott Perry said? So you expect me to break everything down to you like a 4 year old?
Really now.

I think the Yoruba's have the adage abo oro ....

AntilsIam:
I said Just answer YES or NO

How did you escaped from primary school education?

Why would you define exactly how I answer a question. I see you are either a corrupt police man or have worked with them writing false statements and forcing innocent people to sign.

AntilsIam:
So Scott Perry is an American sponsoring Boko haram in Nigeria right?

Thank your creator that this is NL and not X, I would have tagged Scott Perry to sue you for defamation

I now see why you misconstrued a statement made by me to waving good bye. Did I say Scott Perry claims he sponsors terrorists? Obviously you cannot do any independent research yourself but go on with what you are spoon fed.
The senator points at how USAID is used as cover to promote insurgency which is opposite to aid.

AntilsIam:
You don't get it, read this again but this time gently


Should Christians fold their hands while you terrorists slaves and followers of Muhammad keep on sending them to grave untimely because they want to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ?

Just answer YES or NO

Christians follow the teaching of Jesus Christ but what I'm asking you is that should they fold their hands while your terrorists continuing sending them to grave all because you want Islamic world under the fact Christians are following the teachings of Jesus Christ that says whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other

Jesus by your book offers deep teachings on love, mercy, and forgiveness, indicating that his response would not be one of retribution or retaliation. Instead, he promotes a radical love that goes beyond human hostility, encouraging his followers to bless those who persecute them and to turn the other cheek.

Jesus would likely advocate for embracing forgiveness and reconciliation instead of pursuing vengeance. He would encourage seeking nonviolent solutions to conflicts, emphasizing a faith grounded not in retaliation but in a deep love for everyone, even in the face of persecution.

AntilsIam:
Anything outside britanicca on this matter, is a lie

Tied to Colonial slavery or inferiority complex regarding the British?

MightySparrow:
Lielam, Allie Akbar

Since you know what Yusuf said or have the video why don't you share so we know what Yusuf was laughing about and what whoever called into his program said.

Or your view of the truth is what you say or what you agree with?

AntilsIam:
Britannica is a very reliable source, very very reliable with the truth. You are not the first person that will condemned anything I broght up from Wikipedia. Your chief slave here on NL, Anti.Christian did the same and I keep his mouth shut for life after using Britannica to nuked him down with the truth

So therefore, according to britanicca, Anti balaka is not a terrorist group

You need Brittanica to exactly spell it out? Does it not say the supposed defensive protection of Anti-balaka degenerated into a cycle of violent attacks between Christians and Muslims, even civilians, that left hundreds dead and thousands displaced?

Do you refuse to accept that Muslims
and civilians were killed by Anti-balaka?

Cogent Social Sciences in their academic publication in 2024character them as terrorists.

Jamestown Foundation, in its 2014 report, discusses the Anti-balaka militias' targeting of Muslims, framing their actions within the broader discourse of terrorism

Human Rights Watch highlights the terror inflicted by Anti-balaka militias on Muslim communities, emphasizing the need for international intervention to protect civilians.

What else do you need to know before aggreing they are terrorist.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Quran Jesus (Issa) is the "Al masih" which when translated means "Christ the savior" though i was shocked the first time i understood this and ever since then i've been asking Islamic clerics why that word was left in Arabic while everything else is translated.
Please i believe Jesus' word found at John 8:32 applies to everyone not just those you call "Christians"
So let's talk about the real meaning of that word!

The title Al Masīḥ (المسيح) in the Qur'an specifically refers to Prophet ʿĪsā (Jesus, pbuh) This term comes from the root م-س-ح (m-s-ḥ), which translates to "to anoint" or "to wipe." It is also closely linked to the Hebrew word Messiah, (Mashiach), meaning "the anointed one

He was blessed and purified by Allah.
He had the ability to heal the sick by Allah’s permission.
He was anointed spiritually as a leader of the Children of Israel.

Quran 5:75
The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!

AntilsIam:
So up till now you never read your u comments to see where you uttered concluding words? Must I be showing you everything, everytime? The same thing you did on Anti balaka not until I came with the truth from a reliable and genuine source (britanicca)

What have you shown me? Obviously your understanding and perception is wrong. Definitely shame keeps you from showing what you misunderstood. What truth about Anti-Balaka?
Is Brittanica the custodian of truth?
What is wrong with the other sources that say otherwise?
You cannot escape this, bring other sources that back you and Brittanica up?

AntilsIam:
Ohhh I see, so Christians should fold their hands while you terrorists slaves and followers of Muhammad keep on sending them to grave untimely because they want to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ abi

So you switch on and off your followship? Do you say your all knowing Jesus didn't adequately prepare or advise you about this?

AntilsIam:
I spit on your existence, in fact you are a disgrace to humanity for saying Christians should follow the teachings of Jesus Christ while you keep on sending Christians to grave because you want Islamic world

Who do Christians follow if not Jesus oh you follow Constantine not Jesus.

AntilsIam:
Those Muslims you Boko haram members are killing are those against you, I think you are aware of this? And I haven't see where Boko haram will openly behead your alfa, imam, sheikh, etc openly as they are doing to Christians

I believe there was one just last week in Sokoto or so.

AntilsIam:
Who? tell us his or her name..

Congressman Scott Perry says so about USAID.

Act like you don't know more so about MK Ultra

MightySparrow:
Okay Sir. I didn't want to make it as if the idea was originally mine in case the owner is on this platform or somewhere else.

You're not making it yours. Only typing out the questions he asks as that interests you or doesn't it anymore?

AntilsIam:
For killing your brothers in seleka that are terrorizing them, make anti balaka terrorists according to your own special ignorance, so your brothers in seleka are innocent terrorists people waging war against armless Christians in Central African Republic before they formed anti balaka defending themselves against your terrorists brothers in seleka right?

Muhammadan, you are doing a great job on NL glorifying taqqiya as the only way Islam could be proclaimed

Slave, are you expecting them to fold their hands watching you killing them as you boko haram members in Nigeria are persecuting armless Christians almost every month because of Islam

So if Nigeria Christians should fully armed themselves, defending themselves against you Boko haram members, fulani herdsmen, etc you will quickly tag Nigerian Christians as terrorists isn't it?

Sense has left you, Secondly, you are a waste of time having interaction with simply because the evil heart Muhammad had against Christians and Jews by killing them for Islam while alive has come upon you too. I believe in God one day will be one day in Nigeria you these terrorists persecuting Nigerian Christians will surely meet your waterloo

Good lengthy response but no marks as

1. You failed to prove your lie of me waving good bye.

2. You show that acclaimed followers of Jesus don't follow his teachings.

3. You mention groups that also murder Muslims so if it's religion centred why are Muslima killed by the groups you say are Muslims?

4. Didn't you get the information om one of their spomsors in America?

GothamCities:
Lol. John Bull, you make me laugh. You know, you didn't even read what you typed, so, how can you understand? You're even making a position that Americans uprooted the aboriginals of their place, hence, America should allow Israel to be uprooted by the Palestinians and not back them up. Hahaha. You're very entertaining.

https://youtube.com/shorts/T_ihqlYWEhk?si=p0CkdYycYI-mald0

Are you sure the Americans are still the best to deliver Justice?

Ohyoudidnt:
John Bull take your mid term assignment and submit as soon as you resume from break.

Expatiate in not less than 800 words how the indiscriminate violence was not merely a military strategy but a terror campaign designed to instill fear and submission.

You are free to credibly write in disagreement to this.

Good luck.

You refuse to turn in your assignment, how will you graduate when it's not certain you will make it to the next class.

zoer:
Answer the question asked...

IS THERE SALVATION IN ISLAM?

YES - EXPLAIN

NO - EXPLAIN

BA DOGO TURENCI ( NO LONG TALK)

there's a lie in his post and there is likely a lie in what the video alleges to ACADIP. Why isn't the ACADIP clip itself with audio in the YouTube poster's post? Did he just put up his clip to make it seem he was speaking the truth?

In any case mightysparrow should put the questions in written form for clarity maybe he will get the answers he seeks.

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxR-kuCHagi8xe2aOV4WqSLtfX5Sn4XxtI?si=KEGyXrxh61mM_NSE

I have heard the Islam believes that Jesus is مسيح, masīḥ. In this very short video, the poster asked very important questions that I will like Muslim in the house to answer.
The video is less about a minute

John 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

It's quite alarming the way you that claim to follow Jesus in Christianity pathetically lie so much. The video is 4minutes plus not a minute.

AntilsIam:
Looking to escape which way? Take your camel urine syrup very important

I asked anti balaka militia defending themselves against seleka, are they terrorists?

Simple YES or NO

Yes. They kill innocent civilians and where you may want to claim they killed opposing rebels the fundamental question is are they authorised to be judge, jury and executor?

What will Jesus have them do?


Matthew 5:43-44: "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you."
Then more importantly admit your lie in your claim on me claiming I waved good bye.

Only the truth can set you free.

Hypocrite claim to Jesus and or Christianity you of little faith

AntilsIam:
So anti balaka should fold their hands watching your brothers in seleka killing them like chicken as your fellow slaves in Boko haram, isil, are killing Christians in Nigeria right?

Get your facts right and even then what does your book tell Christians if indeed they adhere to it?

If as you claim the act of Anti-Balaka was not folding hands did it lead to peace or more unrest?

Christian intellect is unable to come up with a resolution that doesn't make things worse but prefer to revenge? WHAT A HUGE PATHETIC PITY. No wonder you are one, lieing about a statement you made up in your delusion.

Looking to escape that way? Oops you failed.

AntilsIam:
Is it difficult for you reading your own contributions?

Is it not true that Bozizé’s supporters and the Anti-Balaka militias, which are primarily Christian groups, carried out violent reprisals, hindering Seleka's ability to establish control peacefully.

AntilsIam:
So seleka is seeking fairness by killing innocent people right? You are doing well defending your terrorists brothers in seleka

And Anti-Balaka killing more? What's the logic there?

AntilsIam:
Scroll up you'll see it there

Answer the question just asked. Concluding an argument or concludingly saying good bye or is it waving good bye?

Caught in his lie and he's now trying to dodge.

AntilsIam:
In a nutshell, your seleka are terrorist group


Anti-balaka
The Anti-balaka (anti-machete) is an alliance[citation needed] of militia groups based in the Central African Republic in the early 21st century said by the Guardian to be composed primarily of Christians, but also some Muslims. However, some church leaders have contested the claimed exclusively Christian character of such groups.[4] The Tony Blair Faith Foundation and journalist Andrew Katz have noted that animists also participate in Anti-balaka groups


Is like you will die if you don't glorify taqqiya

How? Is seeking fairness and justice or effecting the of change of an inefficient government of corruption and bias equal to terrorism?

AntilsIam:
Haven't you read where you are uttering concluding words up there? Slave, you have to take your camel urine syrup

Concluding words in a particular argument or concludingly saying good bye? It seems you are getting desperate.

Where did I say good bye or wave good bye?

AntilsIam:
So you never go up there to read your comments from the beginning at where you uttered your concluding statements. Is like your camel urine syrup has finish abi

Bobo, your brothers and slaves in seleka, are they terrorists or not? You were shocked as I brought seleka to your understand right? Christians are not terrorists fighting and killing for Jesus Christ as you must kill Christians and Jews for Muhammad and his idol (allah)

The Seleka coalition in the Central African Republic (CAR) is not mainly an Islamic group; it emerged as a reaction to the marginalization experienced by communities during François Bozizé's administration. The coalition's objectives center on achieving political representation and justice for those who have been disenfranchised, rather than pursuing religious goals. Seleka's activities are more about governance challenges than religious issues.

The Seleka coalition, established in late 2012, consisted of three major rebel groups mainly from the northern part of the Central African Republic (CAR). Their main issues revolved around political exclusion and a lack of representation. In March 2013, Seleka troops took control of the capital, Bangui, resulting in considerable political turmoil.

While your anti-balaka have mainly Christian members

AntilsIam:
So you never go up there to read your comments from the beginning at where you uttered your concluding statements. Is like your camel urine syrup has finish abi

Bobo, your brothers and slaves in seleka, are they terrorists or not? You were shocked as I brought seleka to your understand right? Christians are not terrorists fighting and killing for Jesus Christ as you must kill Christians and Jews for Muhammad and his idol (allah)

You allege without proof. Quote where I waved good bye as you quoted this post you respond too.

It is certain you are a pathetic liar.

AntilsIam:
Go back and read ur comments from the beginning

Are your fellow slaves in seleka not terrorists?

Admittance by style as indeed you are always a liar

AntilsIam:
Chief adviser, see as the guy ignored and didn't commented on your yeye adviced as a retard slave you are well known for

His comment was liked by who it was assessed too but you can't discern

AntilsIam:
Are your fellow slaves in seleka not terrorists?

It is now clear that you dwell on lies. Since you cannot prove that I waved good bye it's best to adopt your abusive non civility.

The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) is a well-known militant group that started in Uganda, led by Joseph Kony. The group is based on a Christian ideology that draws from the Bible, the LRA is considered a terrorist organization because of its violent methods and brutal attacks on civilian populations. The group mainly operates in Uganda, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic (CAR).

While the Anti-Balaka has been influenced by the presence and operations of the LRA. This has exacerbated tensions and insecurity, leading to a cycle of retaliation and further violence.

[quote author=AntilsIam post=134124054][/quote]Waiting for your presentation of me waving good bye