₦airaland Forum

attackgat:
It is pointless for Biafran agitators to seek political power in Nigeria to further their cause. Infact, if pro Biafrans try to seek political power in Nigeria, it will be the end of them.

Nigeria not structured in a way that makes secession by politics possible.

Had Nigeria been a true federation where the Regions have high degree of autonomy and can vote in their regional parliament on secession, then that would be a different thing. Then, Nnamdi Kanu can turn IPOB into a political party, test his popularity at the polls, and if he wins big, can move a motion for the independence of his people.

But at this point, even if IPOB were a political party and won all the elective positions in the SE/SS area, they would still have to to the national assembly to move a motion for independence and the other 4 zones are guaranteed to use their number to vote it out. So that would all be wasted effort, and by then,elected IPOB members who are enjoying power are most likely to forget that it was all about leaving Nigeria. Some might even start singing the tune of ONE NIGERIA. Power corrupts people.

The best thing for Kanu to do is to keep up the pressure through non violent protests and civil disobedience until Nigeria agrees to grant referendum.

Already, it is working for we can see the Arewa youths calling on the federal government to grant the East referendum because of the Biafran agitation.

We are getting there

I get your point but your protests would be a lot safer and effective if your governors and senators were in support of your movement

Kazim88:
You must be very ignorant if you assume we are not praying and hoping your almajiri run goverment to bring war to our door step.

It would be a dream come true... maybe you think because you have gun you can shoot any how... You would be an international criminal. international armed robber.

Is it impossible that the international community would be unable to send soldiers to defend helpless women and children if this escalates?

Yyeske:
Go through the normal procedure under the law and get the referendum and Biafra peacefully or you risk what you never pray for

You are speaking as if it is only one region that would feel the heat if this escalates into a Civil war

Kazim88:
Biafra would Benefit Hausa Fulani more... infact more than Yorubas.

Am 100% sure.

They have nothing to lose... everything to gain.

Maybe this will be true since the south south where the oil is does not plan to join Biafra

Sunnynwa:
Is it not easier to let them go and the rest of Nigeria continue in peace than to fight war?

You are a smart man. You know my point. Therefore, no further comment

attackgat:
Kanu started Radio Biafra in 2009 before GEJ came to power

I will take your word for it and I agree that the Buhari government did not handle this well.

However, my point is, pro biafrans should attempt to grab political power either regionally or nationally. This will make their cause easier and also proof that they have follower ship. Then you can get the international and political support you need. Either that or we keep making comments that will drive innocent young men to take action that might lead to death or incarceration without achieving anything.

It is naive to expect that an Hausa man would give you what you want to the detriment to his own people.

attackgat:
The call for the return of Biafra was an upward swing as soon as Nigeria returned to democracy in 1999. It was kick started by Ralph Uwazuruike with MASSOB in the same year.

However, the Biafran was really galvanised when two radical elements in the name of Nnamdi Kanu and Benjamin Onwuka broke away from MASSOB and formed IPOB (Indigenous people of Biafra) and BZF (Biafran ZIonist Federation)

Unfortunately for Benjamin Onwuka, he ran foul of the law and was detained while Kanu who was in London used his Radio station to build an international network of followers.

By the later half of GEJ's tenure, Radio Biafra already had a large followership. But GEJ largely ignored them.

Buhari was the natural catalyst that moved the Biafran movement the next level. Buharis 'born to rule' mentality, his lack of understanding the dynamics of Nigeria, his analogue mindset and the fact that his administeration made Nigeria harder for Nigerians exploded the Biafran agitation.

Igbos now marvel at having their own independent nation where they dont have to worry about Northerners like Buhari any more.

It is now all about freedom by referendum.

I think any sane human being should support referendum at this point.

Likewise, only an insane person with no lesson in history would call for war or issue quit notices, deadlines or death threat

Yyeske:
The thing is that in a sovereign country such as ours, there are laws but these ones don't want to follow it. You ask for referendum as if you are asking me for a bottle of beer. Since radio Biafra had already told them to prepare for anything, hope they are ready and not waiting on UN

Its like setting your house(Nigeria) on fire with the hope that your neighbor (UN) would come and quench it. What if they decide they have bigger issues like North Korea?

lalasticlala seun, front page?

izombie:
listen, igbos were indifferent when buhari won the election. We were ready to move on but then buhari made the 97%, 5% comment. Then he banned radio biafra. The worst he did was to arrest kanu. If buhari had ignored kanu when he came to nigeria, he would not be as popular as he is now. Someone like me never took interest in kanu until he was arrested. It was only after his arrest that he got my support and obviously millions of igbos support.

Just think of ways to get what you want without violence.

Nobody should sit down and decide to start a war and then blame the Yoruba man for not risking his life to join in a fight that was never his.

Kazim88:
They shouldn't be war but Nigeria bring war... it's not a bad idea..

UN is already aware of state plan to commit genocide against Igbos...

Biafra would fight not with bullets... Naa no necessary... bullet are for Lower mind..

Buhari would be jailed at his old age for genocide... go and ask Charles Tailor.

Nigeria Economy would crumble... to ashes.

War is madness in 2017... you gain nothing. absolutely nothing.

Nigeria only weapon is violence and War... believe me they have lost the battle... 100% sure.... port to Biafra because they have already win... War is a losing tool.

As long as there is no violence.

The Yoruba people are in support of any arrangement that do not lead to war, whether Biafra of Nigeria. We will not fight to keep you neither will we fight to help you go. Its not pride, its fact. Our only enemy is the one who picks up arms against us, either Igbo or Hausa.

You guys need to be strategic and think of the body count. When the choice is between the status co and what happened in 1967, we will choose the status co.

Sunnynwa:
Because Jonathan didn't divide the country into 97% and 5% constituencies.

So should we put the lives of millions at risk because of a silly old man?

Ojukwu lived to a ripe old age. About 3 million people that died in the war had no such luck.

I don't mean to insult an Hero but we must learn from history or we are doomed to repeat it.

Kazim88:
Obiano Apology

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/08/obiano-apologizes-ipob-may-30-2016-killing-members-onitsha/



Biafra vs Buratai, Obiano and 13 others.
200 million dollars suit. (John Doe vs Buratai et al)

http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/43288-Biafra-Suit-Intersociety-releases-evidence-against-Buratai-Arase-other-Military-and-Police-top-shots-46



You think 1967 is 2017.

You think the world is still a jungle. wake up.

Let's Nigeria start war

it would be 1 billion dollars suit this time.

You people should stop mentioning war na. War should be the last option. There still a lot of viable options. Vote for Nnamdi Kanu. Once all your governors are pro-biafran, then you can press your demand both nationally and internationally IN A PEACEFUL MANNER

Kazim88:
Probability of war is 0%

Its not feasible in any way whatsoever...

On which ground would Nigeria declare war...
Even my 5 years cousin knows that the government has no excuse to war... and are to broke to wish one.

Self Determination is an International right of every indigenous group..

At worst nigeria government would be charged for attempt genocide because With The international publicity Biafra is getting Nigeria government can't do shit.

Anambra Election would be boycotted
2019 election would be boycotted..
more sit at home.

The are weapon more stronger than tanks.

Nigeria only weapon is violence and War... they have already loss certainly.. ask any sane mind.

book mark this my words

A better strategy would be to vote for Nnamdi Kanu and his compatriots as Governors in all the Southeast. That is the wise thing to do unless the people of the southeast are not really in support of the biafran movement.

My people, the purpose of this thread is not to start a fight or fuel ethnic hatred. It is to draw attention to the ineffectiveness of the current approach and the dangers of civil war.

Please let us all find a way to get what we want without violence. Why not join politics?

Even if pro-biafrans cannot get the presidency. If all the governors in your region are in support, it would that show the south-east people voted for governors who want Biafra, meaning they want Biafra too. So it will be easy to move from there. Not street fights and accidental discharges from police and soldiers that will leave only sorrows, pain, and fuel more bitterness.

mazimee:
Modify your question and ask again.

Was Nnamdi Kanu on radio speaking against the unity of Nigeria at the time Jonathan was in power?

Lightening:
Jonathan ignored Kanu, but the cattle rearer confronted him and gave him more publicity, sympathy and followership. Nobody is afraid of your 1967. Good night.

You are not afraid of war? I am, so at least someone is.

mazimee:
Jonathan ignored them, but Buhari didn't.
He arrested Kanu, that worsen the whole issue.

Maybe ..... And Jonathan shared money through amnesty. Maybe that's also why

Was Kanu even on radio during Jonathan's regime?

Kazim88:
Staying Neutral would cost Yoruba alot.

Let me give you my prediction.

Soon, Very soon... The North would allow biafra go out of frustration and the political heat the matter is generating.

At that point it would be too late for Yoruba to break out... or to cry restructuring.
Even a referendum for Oduduwa is not guaranteed to reach even 45%

Hahaha, you think the Northerners would relinquish access to the oil money and do what? farm onions and pepper?

You think General Buhari is more amenable that his brother and colleague Yakubu Gowon?

Do you really think that?

Are you willing to see 1967 again?

We are not!

You have more hope of that happening if a Yoruba man was in power

One would imagine that in five years that Jonathan was in Power, if these protests and loud requests for secession was brought forward and it was this loud, It might have been easier for the Igbo nation to get what they seem to want.

Of course there is also the question of whether the agitators actually speak the mind of the Igbo Nation. This is because in my corner of the country, the Igbo men I know do not seem to be very much in support of Master Nnamdi. Still, these issues should be addressed by way of logical two way discussion.

So my questions are:

why is the demand for Biafra more pronounced now?

Did the agitators forget what they wanted before?

Did they not want it at the time?

What exactly is the reasonable expectation currently?

Do you want the Hausa man to go and face his onions and cow while leaving the oil for only the east to enjoy because they are very selfless like Jesus?

Would it not have been easier to ask Jonathan to do that?

Are we willing to go back to 1967 to make it happen?

omohayek:
So what if they are tearing themselves apart? Why is it any of your business? Ta lo ran e ni ise? Ki lo kan e ninu oro won?

You think you have a right to prevent others from making what you consider a mistake, even though I'm sure you would be shouting at the top of your lungs if someone decided to come and tell you how to dress, what to wear, what newspapers to read and so on, even if they were convinced it was for your own good. Your refusal to respect the rights of others to determine their own future makes me suspect you are another "fake Yoruba" northerner who is afraid of what restructuring or outright secession would mean for your access to oil-money, because no thinking Yoruba person would be happy with the current situation where his or her leaders have to beg Abuja to deal with even simple things they could have easily handled on their own.

I am not happy but i have to agree with you on this. People should be allowed to choose for themselves. Especially the Igbos who have been clamoring for secession for decades. Unfortunately, the north would never allow it and they have people in all the strategic agencies from politics to the Nigerian army.

Gradually the Yoruba literates are opening their minds to the possibility that we may be better apart. However, we will not follow you to a senseless war to make this happen. The Yorubas will not protest or mount any physical pressure to make this happen. To get the a reasonable Yoruba man to even lift a finger, there needs to be logical discussion on how you intend to achieve this goal without waste of lives and properties and how the collateral damage of possible millions of lives would be worth it.


Right now it appears all that is fueling the agitation is just unresolved bitterness about the civil war and the shared hatred for the unreasonable Notherners without strategy. You cannot take a knife to a gun fight because you are angry.

We have a proverb....translated, "whoever asks what killed his father before he is equipped to defend himself would die the-same way his father dies"

You must learn from history. Do not repeat the mistakes of our fathers.

To get the kind of support you want, you need to talk logic and you need to talk strategy. Only fools fight a war before the possibility of defeat has been reasoned out.

The best you can hope for if you go ahead is that the Yoruba stay neutral.

This is why it is wise if the Biafra people can find a peaceful way to proceed. Nobody wants the death of 3million more people on either side.

If you want my advise, calm down, play politics, when your people come to power eventually, then call for a referendum and you can expect no contest or maybe even alliance from the Yoruba nation.

Speaking of which, why didn't you get your man Jonathan to grant this request. One would imagine that you would use the opportunity but everyone seemed to be silent about Biafra when Jonathan was in Power.

Me[color=#000099][/color] i will just start doing all the things i wanted to do. Like spending the weekend with my family, telling my fiancee how much I love her, in this world and the next. Eating anything i want and doing anything i want with my savings and watching movies.

Exercise the rebel

striker07:
In nigeria first class,second class and third class degree has Hons but pass degree doesnt have.thats is difference,it is a big lie that your result will not have hons if you spilled over.

If you spill and your BSC still has hons, e mean say you no spill well. Go ask people spill, spash, splosh. Or maybe you went to one of those schools

David779:
Cool

Lastiticlala and seun should be banning these con artists naw?

Why would you need people to pay 5k for your so called match-fixes if you win 500k yourself every other day?

deomeelo:
Common sense should tell you that he's a minister and not a supervisor.

Common sense should also tell you that construction knowledge is not a ministerial requirement in any society under the sun.

Common sense should also tell you that his ministry is full of construction engineers and inspectors and many of them accompany him on inspection tours.


You love to hear yourself rant, but you are void of the common sense, sane and rational thinking.

Ooh oh!

You mean julius berger or whatever big-name contractor handling the project do not have technical supervisors that know a lot more than the secondary school gibberish you typed up there?

Or is it the ministry of works that do not have engineers way more qualified than you.

Or is it that you are saying the minister should take the word of tecnical supervisors for it without seeing where he has spent tax payers money? Do you pay tax?

nopretense:
Woow
This is a genius and informed comment, coming frm an experienced and enlightened mind...

Thanks for the glowing review.

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Evaberry:
....
if you are a guy and you are more than 25 and no girl has ever gotten pregnant for you 'mistakenly' you need to check yourself, there's something wrong with you.

Hahan madam why na?

How you go talk that kind thing.

Are you trying to say my something can not work too?

No dey generalise like that na

Ojamilaraje!!

Hi lexylexy, please give me you email or phone number here. I dont have access to my DM

Which kind of woman is your mum. Is she intuitive or is she the type that likes drama. You may have known your babe for 9 years buts you've known your mum for thrice as long.

So this is not a decision about your fiance persey. Its about whether you trust your mum's instincts or judgement. For example, if i want to marry someone and my mum says no, i will just find a way to manage the drama and still go ahead. However, if my dad says no, i will have reevaluate and reconsider to be sure i am accurate in my assessment. At the end, it is YOUR decision

Just think deep, you know the answer you are looking for.

OkunrinMeta:
Thanks for your response. I am thinking on taking less than 1.5, repayment is 3-4 years with monthly deduction of 40-50k. Looking to buy a used Honda Accord. Unfortunately, it is not possible i drive it myself except maybe only weekends. What do you think? Do you think i can make 50k net of expenses driving just weekends as a newbie?

In-case i was not clear. I meant 50k in a month driving just weekends, that is 8 days per month. The 50k should be after deducting all expenses. Is this too ambitious for a newbie.?