₦airaland Forum

Annunaki:
I condemn it in all it's entirety.

i guess u have gotten ur reply from my muslim brothers.

Amberon:
How can Mohammed save you when he himself isn't saved?

why do Muslims ignore the fact that Mohammed was a rapist,murderer, pedophole, serial killer, armed robber etc?

DO U KNOW MY PROBLEM WITH U, U DONT THINK WITH YOUR HEAD...WHERE DID YOU GET IT THAT MOHAMMED WAS A RAPIST, OR ANY OTHER ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM.

Annunaki:
What evidence exists in the quoran or sahih hadiths that mohammed is indeed a genuine prophet apart from mohammed's al taquiya claims?

read surah mohammed

Annunaki:
How do you rationalise a 54year old pervert getting married to a six year old baby girl and molesting her at the age of nine Before you apply al taquiya in attempting this question, ask yourself if you allow your six year old daughter to marry a 54 year old pervert?

if it is in d Quran let us knw where u found that.

Annunaki:
How do you rationalise a 54year old pervert getting married to a six year old baby girl and molesting her at the age of nine Before you apply al taquiya in attempting this question, ask yourself if you allow your six year old daughter to marry a 54 year old pervert?

u tooo listen to yourself .....HOW WILL A SIX YEAR OLD GIRL MARRY A 54 years old man.

Annunaki:
How do you rationalise a character that is claimed to be the best of mankind and an example to be emulated by muslims being an armed robber?

PS: caravan raiding carried out by mohammed on several ocassions and recorded in authentic islamic sources was armed robbery no matter how you want to spin it.

can u elaborate?

this trend is specifically to answer christians questions, if i cant am muslim ustaz(islamic scholars) will assist me.
my sincere apology to truthman,malvis,bxcode etc for not giving you guyx ur reply....you can forward the questions here and my muslim brothers would be of assisstance....PLS MAKE IT SNAPPY I HAVE TIGHT SCHEDULE.
MASHA ALLAH

samted:
lol...that was funny. anyway, just to clarify...do y'all actually believe the 72 virgins thing? like, is it somewhere in the quran?? or just a story?

it a myth, i dont know how to direct link on nl i would have directed d link to u..... BUT GET THIS FACT 72 VIRGINS IS A MYTH

truthman2012:
What do you call the killings carried out by Muhammad ?

it a waste of time arguing with you and malvis.....my only prayer for the two of you is not to die an unbeliever...because if you do, YOUR PUNISHMENT WILL START FROM YOUR GRAVE.

truthman2012:
What do you call the killings carried out by Muhammad ?

it a waste of time arguing with you and malvis.....my only prayer for the two of you is not to die an unbeliever

samted:
No everything is written explicitly in the Bible. Meanings can be drawn from every kind of writing...religious or non-religious. That is why the Bible is open to various interpretations. Jesus mostly spoke in parables...we don't take his parables literally because they are stories that have a higher meaning. So, don't ask where everything is in the bible.

If we have to justify everything we do or say by the writings in the bible or the quran, we would all perish.

what am trying to explain to u is that jesus never heard the word christianity before he died and e did not say you should worship him.....kip assuming reasons from the bible, on the last day you will also assume christianity is the religion of God.

BETATRON:
---lol---see this guy sha...thought you went on leave to get some sense..but seems you have even become more ignorant and my brother if you continue like this you will soon become the scale for measuring ignorance here of nairaland

As for the verse you quoted above...you've lied again...surah 3:54 states-----and the unbelievers plotted and planned,and Allah to PLANNED.and Allah is the best of planners----yussuf ali

Surah 8:30 says----remember how the unbelievers PLOTTED against thee in BOND,or slay thee or get thee out of thy home. They plot and plan and Allah too PLANS but the best of planners is Allah---yussuf ali

Could you please name the translated koran or any islamic source where this(wallaahu khayrul-maakiriin) is translated as "and Allah is the best. Of DIECIEVERS"

the guy has a stone heart....only ALMIGHTY ALLAH can show him the way

truthman2012:
There would not have been anything called islam today if Muhammad was bold enough to ask allahh some reasonable questions.

ALLAH SAID MUHAMMAD SHOULD CONFIRM QURANIC REVELATIONS FROM JEWS AND CHRISTIANS:

Allahh said Muhammad should ask the Jews and Christians if he was in doubt about what were being revealed to him:

And if thou
art in doubt concerning that
which We reveal unto thee,
then question those who read
the Scripture (that was) before
thee. Verily the Truth
from thy
Lord hath come unto thee. So
be not thou of the waverers
(Quran 10:94). With this quranic statement, allahh was in agreement with Jews and Christians.

So by the time allahh later said the Scripture of the same Jews and Christians were corrupt, Muhammad should have asked ''but you once referred me to those people to confirm your revelations, why are you saying their Scriptures is now corrupt? Didn't you know that before lord? When did they become your enemies?

ALLAH AFFIRMED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WERE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH REWARD:

Lo! Those who believe (in that
which is revealed unto thee
Muhammad) and those who are
Jews and Christians and
Sabaens – whosoever believeth
in Allah and the Last Day and
doeth right – surely their
reward is with their Lord and
there shall no fear come upon
them neither shall they grieve.
Qur’an 2:62

I am sure allahh must have known that the Christians believe Jesus as Son of God or even God before he said they will have reward in heaven. But by the time allahh later said the Christians ascribe partner to him and that they are going to hell, Muhammad should have asked ''but you knew this before, why are you changing your mind now?''

If Muhammad was educated and bold enough and asked appropriate questions, he should have abandoned allahh's project of islam because it is a mere deception.

allahh said he is a DECEIVER and that actually reflects in the OP and in the quran:

But they (the Jews) were
deceptive, and Allah was
deceptive, for Allah is the
best of DECEIVERS
( Wamakaroo wamakara
Allahu waAllahu khayru
al-makireena )! Quran 3:54; 8:30

that quranic verse you coated is trying to enlighten you that mohammed believe in what has been reveal before him i.e injeel torah, i cnt remember the last one.
mohammed believes in jesus and what have been reveal to jesus i.e torah not the fake bible you christians carry around
moreover even jesus confims that mohammed will come after him(get the main dialet language of bible hebrew or greek and read) ...when you having difficultly contact me.

Where are those christians......those that converted did yusuf use sword to make them join islam.......AND where is truthman and malvisguy i know they have a stoneheart maybe yusuf can help me enlighten them

samted:
y'all shud have just given all those things separate names. Besides, the world has associated Jihad with fighting already so you understand why we call Jihad fighting.

However, turning a cheek doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for your rights...besides when Jesus found traders in the House of God He was infuriated and kicked them out. This doesn't mean we should strike down everybody that opposes us or doesn't accept our belief system or teaching. Forgiveness is necessary...Sharia does not know what forgiveness is. (not cool) Cutting a kleptomaniacs right hand off doesn't prevent him from stealing...it only prevents him from stealing with his right hand. (get my point?)

There are other ways to punish people that don't require brutality and maiming.

There are other ways to convince people or pass along your beliefs without fighting and threatening to behead people in the name of your god.

BLESS YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT YOU ARE THE FIRST REASONABLE CHRISTIAN THAT I WILL CHAT WITH THAT IS OPEN MINDED
1. you cant uses peoples attitude to berate islam....just leave those pagans alone they shall be questioned by the creator one day
2. islam teaches tolerance and forgiveness you only have to defend yourself when you have no other choice.
BLESS YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT SENSIBLE COMMENT.

samted:
John 1 vs 1 - 5: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 1 vs 14 - 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Simple Explanation: The WORD was made flesh (Jesus is the word that was made flesh to dwell among us). In the beginning, that same word was with God and that WORD WAS GOD....thru which all things were made!!! Simply put, Jesus who is the Word that was made flesh, is the same word that was with God and is the same Word that is God.

therefore, Jesus is God.

That shouldn't be too complex to grasp.

YOU DIDNT GET THE QUESTION I SAID WHAT IS THE BIBLE VERSE THAT JESUS SAID YOU CHRISTIANS SHOULD WORSHIP ME JESUS.....IF YOU ASK ME WHAT IS THE QURAN VERSE(ooooo sorry VERSES) THAT CONFIRM ISLAM I WILL PROVIDE THEM.
MOREOVER I DIDNT ASK FOR EXPLANATION I NEED VALID POINT IN THE BIBLE.

Bakrabas:
The funniest is that the G.Os i mean d (the mumy n dady g.o) husband and wife wouldnt say truth.every sunday they quote the chapters that can brainwash dir sheeps.

there's a chapter of d bible dat says that if a lady is desflowered b4 marriage dey shld kill her...levticus.if u wana knw d chpt quote me.@any xtian

dnt mind them i pray they dont die an unbeliever.....the same bible teaches about various sex styles(song of solomon)

mnairaland:
I have been a born again xtian for decades.I read the bible from cover to cover several times as a tenager.

I can confidently tell u that there are no errors whatsoever in the bible.Remember that the bible was not written in English.
Howrver, I do admit that there are a lot of tranlation errors in the english bible.
If you have ever read the introduction to bible translations the translators state that what they have presented is
the best they could based on their knowledge of the oruginal language.By so stating they were declaring that the translation cannot be said to be perfect.

The only reason why there are many translations of the English Bible is because efforts are constantly being made to get more accurate translation of the bible.

Perhaps the least accurate Engish translation of the bible is the King James Version.Ironically, it is the most widely read,most widely accepted and most widely bought version for many reasons are:
1.Its use of old english gives a sense of holiness and piety to readers and reciters.
2.It is perhaps the easiest to commit to memory.
3.It is has been around for so long and has the greatest following and consequent next-generation following
down the ages.

Shocking as it may seem, most modern translation if the Bible are more accurate than KJV.A few of the reason for this are as follows:
1.KJV was not translated from the original Greek and Hebrew version.It was translated from the Vulgate which was a latin version.
2.The oldest manuscripts of the bible were found by archeoligist in modern times.
3.Modern day translators of the bible to english have better understanding of the original languages in which the bible was written than their older generation counterparts.

4.Becuse of development in teaching and education modern day man has a (and he keeps developing) much more better approach to translation.

The bible is all of academic,scientific,history and spiritual book.

As an academic book it is studies by a great many scholars in a great many theogical schools and universuties.

As a scientific book it is being studied by various scientist who are mosty archeokigist.Scienrists and archeoligist have found its account quite revealing and accurate.

As an history book, historians continue pore over it.

As a spiritual book, BORN AGAIN christians read and study it.Please notice that I placec an emphasis on the word born again.

Because the bible is a spiritual book. It exist as a closed book.Only BORN AGAIN christians can understant it. Other categories of people like scholares, hisorisns, and scientist may be knowlegeable and pissible versed in it.They can never understand it unless they are born again.

Yes, you may be knowlegeble in it, yes you may be versed in it, but you will never understand it until you get born again.A typical example a person who was knowlegeble and versed in in but did not understand it was Nucodemus who was a pharisee.
Another example of someone of a person who was knowkegeable and versed in it bur did not understand it was Saul of Tarsus who was a lawyer.In fact, in Jesus's days, the pharisees, saduccees and scribes fell into.the said category.

Unbelievable as it may sound , Jesus's dusciples too fell into this category during his earthly days.

As would be expected, a great many people exist today who are knowlegrable in the bible, versed in it but do not understand it. They can be found both offline and online.

It is rather ironic thay these people who are knowlegeable, versed in but do not understand the bible are the ones who think they underand it them most. They are quite easy to identify because they are quick to argue about thr bible.

Having said all that a person who is not born again may get the rare oppirtunity to have a certain degree of understanding of the bible, but that occurs at the descretion if God.

A good case in point is the dedciple of Jesus.They all knew Jesus was the christ but the never really understood the import of that knowlege until one day when God revealled it meaning to peter.

In closing I will say that there are no errors in the bible but there are tranlation errors in English tranlations if the bible.

DO YOU CONFIRM THAT JESUS NEVER HEARD THE WORD BIBLE BEFORE HE DIED.

Malakh:
You can oppose all you want to, run your mouth all you want to, curse as much as you want to,you are still a man,He will always laugh last by throwing you into that volcano to be tormented forever.

I SENSE ARROGANCY....moreover this is not oppression this are facts as written in your bible....OR ARE YOU FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO OPEN THE BIBLE VERSES

Malakh:
You can oppose all you want to, run your mouth all you want to, curse as much as you want to,you are still a man,He will always laugh last by throwing you into that volcano to be tormented forever.

I SENSE ARROGANCY

energylee:
Have checked all of this, pls check out your bible very well before misleading the public..

if you said you have check all then i guess you dont understand....THOSE WORDS ARE WRITTEN IN ENGLISH TRY TO DIGEST THEM.....ue is saying tue fact

bobestman:
Guy your post is meaningless.Mathew,Mark,Luke etc were Jesus disciples.They were there with him and saw many things.So they wrote it how they saw and understand it.If i were to write the same essay topic with you,you will find out their maybe differencies even if we were given same outline because of our IQ and level of understanding.Pls stop confusing people.The Bible is inspired by God.Dnt listen to skeptics.

IF BIBLE IS A BOOK OF GOD THEN I HAVE A MILLION QUESTION TO ASK GOD ON THE LAST DAY...because the book is just tooo corrupt ....IMAGINE ur bible teaching people about various sex style(read the songs of solomon you will see it there).
you better go and question your pastor..... i better be an atheist than join christianity atleast when am an atheist i will know hell is my abode not when i will be deceive myself and go to church to serve god and still go to hell.

austinray:
I've seen more than enough from what people have posted so far.

exactly

psalmlolese:
Just put this in mind that God word are Mystery , for those who are quoting mark vs luke and samuel vs chronicles in the scripture. #Just Allow The HOLYSPIRIT to direct you and teach you the word, cause you can't understand the word via your canal human knowledge.

THE WORD HOLY SPIRIT IS IT BOLDLY WRITTEN IN HEBREW BIBLE??

bxcode:
What you are doing is really funny, haven't you heard of first person and second person report on the same event?
If you and I went to watch an event or had an experience together, are we going to report it exactly the same way?
The bible dosent have any form of mistake, for it is inspired by God. Any form of perceived mistake or contradiction is simply because you are yet to understand the it, contextually or otherwise, and you don't read the bible just like any other book, without the understanding that the holy spirit gives, it will seem dead to you and confusing.
Happy Sunday

my questions
1. the word holy spirit is it written in the hebrew bible boldly there i mean not the transcrption.....dont stress yourself it not there.....then how did the word holy spirit come to play.....and dont tell me holy spirit means dis or dar.....if holy spirit is the spirit of god dont you thinl it should be written in the hebrew bible
2. if i remove the front and back cover of ur bible where it is written there can you tell me any other verse or chapter that the word bible is found in the bible
PLEASR DONT BE BIASED

Ymodulus:
King James was even a Gay. Yet the same Church rejects Gays. Why the pioneer scripture translation is written by a Gay

you shall not miss your reward.....AMIN
MASHA ALLAH

onetrack:
Well then maybe the author of the Quran should have taken some writing classes, because the Quran, like the Bible, has plenty of contradictions and errors.

what are the contraditions post them here if not then you are confused

samted:
Guy you have no valid point to make. Jesus is our savior and our creator..our reason for being. So we will worship Him as our God.

tell me the bible verses that confirms that.? or that says jesus says you christians should worship him.

samted:
Guy you have no valid point to make. Jesus is our savior and our creator..our reason for being. So we will worship Him as our God.

tell me the bible verses that confirms that.?

samted:
that would explain why there are so many incitations to jihad in the teachings of islam

JIHAD MEANS STRIVING ON THE PATH OF ISLAM IS IT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
if i buy kettle for ablution in the mosques that jihad......if i remove stick that can hurt my fellow humans from the road that jihad......if i go to war for islam that jihad
I THINK YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND NOW

malvisguy212:
trash. Explained it if you can.

you will get YOUR FULL EXPLANATION WHEN YOU answer my two questions in our previous conversation
AM TALKING ABOUT THE ONE OF HOLY SPIRIT AND THE OTHER ONE.....after that i willl tell you about the beauty of islam
p.s:- what even made you to do christianity, DNT TELL ME JESUS SAVED YOUR LIFE GIVE ME A REASONABLE REASON.
MASHA ALLAH