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laurenziz6:
ur hate is clouding your judgement

this is not about hatred......it about what is in your fabricated bible with more than 5 version
I WILL ALWAYS BE SAYING IT CHRISTIANITY IS A JOKE

malvisguy212:
when last you pick up the quran and read ?

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of YOUR Lord that every one of
YOU will be taken to HELL.”

And the next verse say :

Surah 19:72: “Then (Thumma) We
shall RESCUE those who kept from evil,
and LEAVE the evil-doers crouching
there.” (Pickthall)

The word “THEN” (Thumma) used in this
verse exemplify that there is a
chronological order of events. FIRST the
entry into HELL. “THEN” being saved from it. Note the wordings of Surah 19:72: “We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.” You only “rescue” someone who is in some kind of danger. However, this rescue operation will only take place on “Judgment Day.”

Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349:
“They (the angels) would RECOGNIZED THEM IN THE FIRE BY MARKS OF PROSTRATION , for Hell-fire will devour
everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt …”

It is only the muslims who have this prostration marks.

am sick of you, what the essence of explaning since you wont accept the truth.

YOU KNOW WHAT KEEP UP THE WORK, WA RI ERE NI NU E.

malvisguy212:
@op.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62,
Number 157:
Narrated Al-Miswar b. Makhrama: I
heard Allah’s Apostle who was on the
pulpit, saying, “Banu Hisham bin Al-
Mughira have requested me to allow
them to marry their daughter to Ali
bin Abu Talib, but I don’t give
permission, and will not give
permission unless ‘Ali bin Abi Talib
divorces my daughter in order to
marry their daughter, because Fatima
is a part of my body, and I hate what
she hates to see, and what hurts her,
hurts me.”

While Muhammad supported polygamy
as taught in the Qur’an, he did not want
the husband of his daughter to practice
polygamy while he is married to her.
Why the double standard?

you are very good at fabricating hadith where did you get this again....i have hadith book ooooo....u better have a good prove.

samted:
Turning the other cheek is simply taking the higher road. Jesus didn't want barbarians as followers...apparently mohammed didn't mind. Slap me, I slap you is only a recipe for disaster...except you're tryin to tell us that Islam is here to cook and serve disaster...

also bros did jesus say you should worship him?

laurenziz6:
jesus acxepted hes a king but not of this world but of heaven and earth and dont bring age into this your talking out of hatred

Also read act 2:22, act 17:31, num 23:19 to confirm jesus his a man just like you and me the only diffrences is that he is a messenger...he didnt created himself or is he god the son
N.B :- atleast your bible is written in english you wont have difficulty comprehending it....and if having any difficulty pm me....am always available to put you through

laurenziz6:
jesus acxepted hes a king but not of this world but of heaven and earth and dont bring age into this your talking out of hatred

eeyyyyaaaaa sorry you hear.....SO DID JESUS SAY YOU SHOULD WORSHIP HIM

golpen:
Lol... I understand my dear brother, but people have doubts and part of our responsibilities is to rescue them. Let me enlighten him till I also feel I'm tired. Probably, he might not have heard some of these things before and then, maybe he'll understand better. Imaging he doesn't know they are quilty of what the prophet pbuh cursed them of doing.

bless you my brother kip up the good work may Allah grant us janah....and i hope those stone hearted fellow learn
MASHA ALLAH

malvisguy212:
and muhammed is in heaven or hell ? Even the quran testify, muhammed is in HELL awaiting judgment. What will become of his slaves ?

u just confirmed their is nothing in your head, where in the Quran is it stated that mohammed is in hell.

samted:
Turning the other cheek is simply taking the higher road. Jesus didn't want barbarians as followers...apparently mohammed didn't mind. Slap me, I slap you is only a recipe for disaster...except you're tryin to tell us that Islam is here to cook and serve disaster...

u not getting my explanation islam is not a religion of coward or weak, it teaches us to be accomodating and forgivin but when situations arise do the needful.

truthman2012:
Can't you read a simple English statement and understand?

what is this one saying....rubbish

truthman2012:
The reason Muhammad couldn't perform miracles was simply because he was a sinner. It takes holiness to do miracles. Again,the true God would not tell His prophets to ask for sins forgiveness, He would rather tell them to avoid them.

[Quran 47:19] "So know (O Muhammad)
that there is no God save Allah,
AND ASK FORGIVENESS FOR THY SIN
and for believing men and
believing women. Allah knoweth
(both) your place of turmoil and
your place of rest."

Allah in a clear term said Muhammad should ask for forgiveness of his sins and that of his followers. Therefore, no doubt, Muhammad was a sinner like his followers. Not only that, he was a perpetual sinner at that, asking for forgiveness of sins yet to be committed. He knew he would always commit sins.

“O Allah! Forgive me my sins
that I did in the past or will do
in the future, and also the sins
I did in secret or in
public.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5919).

He was so consumed by sins that he was committing them anywhere, secretly and publicly

The true God does not condone sins for His prophets and any deliberate sin was visited with severe punishment. A good example is that of Moses. He was strictly punished for striking the rock contrary to God's instruction to speak to it.

Numbers 20:8-12
“Take the staff, and
assemble the congregation,
you and Aaron your
brother, and TELL the rock
before their eyes to yield
its water. So you shall
bring water out of the rock
for them and give drink to
the congregation and their
cattle.”
9 . And Moses took
the staff from before the
Lord, as he commanded
him.
10. Then Moses and
Aaron gathered the
assembly together before
the rock, and he said to
them, “Hear now, you
rebels: shall we bring water
for you out of this rock?”

11. And Moses lifted up his
hand and STRUCK the rock
with his staff twice, and
water came out abundantly,
and the congregation drank,
and their livestock.
12. And
the Lord said to Moses and
Aaron, “Because you did not
believe in me, to uphold me
as holy in the eyes of the
people of Israel, therefore
you shall not bring this
assembly into the land
that I have given them .”

The true God does not tolerate sin for His prophet as allahh did to Muhammad.

u guys can lie..how can u just jump to conclusion that it was mohammed he was referring to in that verse...doing miracles is left to Allah's will not mohammed power

Princewell2012:
Hmmmmm it also shows that you don't know the difference between Jesus and God.

PATIENTLY WAITING FOR MALVISGUY2 AND HIS CO. to come and answer this.

stimulus:
My-oh-my!! Abeg, no make me laugh. Let me see how to euphemise that construct. Em. . .

"If the Holy Prophet had said he was the Logos, belloti would have taken it in figurative terms."

"If Muhammad claimed to be the Messiah, belloti would still have taken it in figurative terms."

"If the Prophet of Islam had said he was the resurrection and the Life, the same figurative terms apply."

"If there's anything to difficult for the Muslim mindset, then again belloti says it must be absorbed figuratively."


In other words, perhaps as na Jesus talk say He is the Son of God (John 10:36) then the figurative terms disappear, and only blasphemy appears, not so? Hehe, belloti. . . this one sided partiality is not going to help you.

Has Islam ever acknowledged the title of "Son of God" in any figurative term? If at all there was just a way of seeking to understand and absorb that term in Islam, why has it ever remained a "shirk" in Islam?

the word son of god will always remain a shirk becoz it does not befit HIS MAJESTY to say e has a son..that blaspheming in islam

jerrymania:
I laugh at you! then Islam should be wrong too!

wat point do you have to prove your word...we can just bank on empty words

OK LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR TO YOU CHRISTIANS ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION OF YOU SLAP ME I GIVE YOU MAKE OTHER CKEEK....IF YOU SLAP ME WITHOUT A GOOD REASON I BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU... IT CALLED SELF DEFENCE OR JUSTICE

IS IT DAT HARD TO COMPREHEND

I PRAY THEY ANSWER THE QUESTION

DeathStroke007:
laughing hysterically... i don die.. scribes? we no have scribes.. we have sahabahs.. your matter don tire me

usthers(islamic scholar) u dont have to reply them
the best you can do is pray for Allah's guidance for them so they dont rot in hell
I WONDER HOW SOMEONE WILL HAVE A RELIGION OF MORE THAN FIVE VERSION RELIGIOUS BOOK... FESTIVE SEASON NOT RECOGNISED IN THE RELIGIOUS BOOK still yet you claim it to be RELIGION(indeed u are miss guided)
how does the word holy spirit even come about ....is it in the original hebrew bible(i don't want explanation i want the exact word holy spirit) and i also dont want ur more than five fake versions that you carry around.

golpen:
See brother your gibberish can only fool gullible christians, not me, a Muslim rightly guided by Islam and also a student of comparative religion.

Let me school you a bit brother before you spew trash here;

First is, sabbath as you have mentioned is used in terms of days. What is that day meant for? Rest! My brother, rest. In Christianity, this is in line with the fact that man is in God's image, man also rests like He did. Why are you lying brother?

Second is, when a word has different meaning, you choose the meaning that best suits that particular sentence or situation. From your dictionary meaning, the word 'rest' is still part of it and you're still blabbering. Which phrase of all that you listed goes well with the word 'refresh'? It is rest that makes you refreshed my brother, don't lie.
. Your book has put you in serious trouble, won't you turn to the truth? The more you see people to try to put you through, the more trouble you'll have facing Allah, the Lord of the world's. Turn to the truth and it shall set you free.

i think you wasting your time trying to convince him, i tried it it was to no avail
just leave him let him walk to hell if he wants... i pray he does not regret it on the day of questioning.

laurenziz6:
open the gospel of john chapter 18 verse 33-38

mumu

from the verse you posted jesus was asked are you the king of jews he said yes he is and his kingdom is not of this earth.
this shows that he is not God, from that statement you can confirm that he said he is the king of jews i.e sent to the jews, are you a jew? then why did you call jesus your lord... did jesus created you?
when i checked your profile and saw your picture i had no cause to be offended INDEED YOU TALK LIKE A GOOFY KID.

laurenziz6:
read the passion of christ. JESUS before pilate
if you dont know the verse then that means your senseless op posting thrash topics

bros you don't know what you doing,... give me verses not passion of christ... I GUESS YOU DONT HAVE BIBLE VERSE TO PROVE YOUR POINT.

chiedu7:
[size=14pt]I gave more than 10 reasons to show that Jesus is God.[/size]

See https://www.nairaland.com/2870689/10-points-show-jesus-god

so jesus created you?
that blasphemy....YOUR GOD THAT DOES NOT KNOW THE LAST DAY.

laurenziz6:
foolish op

jesus before pilate he said that he is a king and his kingdom is not of this world

hence the called him king of the jews because their primitive mind could not understand

can i know the bible verse you got that from

malvisguy212:
show me in the bible were it say, God died. Jesus died and resurrected and live forever more. But God the son which incarnate in Him do not die.

Luke 23:46
Father, into your hands I commend MY
SPIRIT - and having said this, he gave up the spirit"

Jesus has two nature, divine and human nature, His divine and human
nature were inseparably united. His
divine nature, of course, could not die.
He Himself said, "I lay down my life that I might take it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again" ( John 10:17-18)

So back to topic, were did muhammed got the idea from, christians and Jews worship at dead prophet tomb ?

where did u get that hadith, let me know you source maybe the hadith you are trying to talking abiut was when he curse the christians and jews for worshipping their prophet

malvisguy212:
God died ? I need scriptural reference .

also answer my question about holy spirit, is it in the original Hebrew bible where did it originate from... PATIENTLY WAITING
p.s:-i dont mean the meaning i mean the exact word holy spirit and i will tell you about prophet mohammed in the bible

malvisguy212:
you mean it is impossible for God to dwell in the flesh ? I pity you, canal minded man you are, just because it is impossible for man to do those not mean God cannot do it.

Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son
of Mary, was (no more than) an
apostle of Allah, and His Word, which
He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit
from Him.”

Is it also blaspheme as the quran say GOD spirit is upon the son Jesus ?

am nt saying God spirit is not on mary, infact that show how mighty he is, proving biology process wrong what am saying is dont ascribe any patner or diety or jesus son of god like you said to him
he created jesus, jesus is his servant, a mere mortal that is still coming back to the earth... infact that is one of the last hour signs
YOU HAVE ALSO NOT ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION OR ARE YOU CLUELESS OR POINTLESS...am talking about my bible question.

malvisguy212:
isn't it wonderful that God dwell in flesh and wanted to have a personal relationship with us ?

i told you before stop insulting God how can you say he dwell in flesh it does not befit him
GET THIS CLEAR YOUR CREATOR IS SUPREME HE DOES NOT DWELL IN FLESH THAT AN INSULT AND HE DID NOT DIE FOR YOUR SIN
I think you just havd a stone heart, let me ask you this IF I TEAR THIS FIRST AND LAST PAGE IN YOUR HOLY BOOK THAT THEY WROTE BIBLE ....TELL ME WHAT ELSE CAN INDICATE THAT AM HOLDING A BIBLE?
GLADLY WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY AND PLEASE I NEED BIBLE VERSES TO PROVE YOUR POINT NOT EXPLANATION

malvisguy212:
I don't have anything to proved to you, it is the work of the holy spirit to convicte you of your sin and how you need His grace.

How do you atone for sin in islam ? Do you really believe God has a scale to measure sin ? Here what the quran say :

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
AVOID THE GREAT (THINGS) WHICH YE ARE FORBIDDEN ye are, We will remit from you your evil deeds and make you enter at a noble gate.

This imply that Allah will send you to hell for only great sin, little sins will be ignored. Do you think God will tolerate His law be broken so easily ? NO matter how hard you try, your effort cannot earn you salvation, if you believe , Jesus is your Lord and personal savior, your sin will not be counted, only your Good deed will be counted because Jesus has already PAID the price of your SINS. The bible say "He became sin so that we will be made righteous in Him" . But if you reject Jesus as your Lord and savior, you will be judge based on your bad deed, because you reject the plan of salvation on the cross. Remember the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus, one repented and accept Jesus, His bad deed were not mention, it was his Good deed which is recognized. If that thief would've reject Jesus, God will judge his bad deed. Ask yourself, why did Islamic doctrine denied the plan of salvation ? Which make man in perfect Holiness to God. But the option given in the quran indicate God will ignored sin. This is satanic deception.

we atone for sin by saying astagafurullah(ask for forgive)
yes i believe a God has a scale to measure sin...
how did the word HOLY SPIRIT come about, have you check ur original hebrew bible if the word holy spirit is their
give me original transcription of holy spirit in hebrew bible not the one you have around with more than 5 version than i can have an argument wirh you
how can you just proclaimed God is three ; he has a son... that does not befit his majesty
BRO I TOLD YOU BEFORE GET A ENGLISH VERSION OF QURAN STUDY IT IN AND OUT AND STOP COMING HERE TO GIVE MISCONCEPTION ABOUT ISLAM

malvisguy212:
their is MORE to gain if you believe in Jesus.

i believe in jesus sir, he is just not my lord or personal saviour.

malvisguy212:
their is MORE to gain if you believe in Jesus.

please prove it to me better still convince me and i promisd to join your religion infact i will attend the same church you attend.

malvisguy212:
listen very carefully, the word "christian " is NOT in the bible, the FIRST time this word was use, they use it to describe the apostles, the Disciples NEVER called themselves christians. Christianity is not a religion, its is a way of life, when the disciples ask Jesus to teach them how to pray, why did Jesus start with the phrase "OUR father" ? Instead of "MY father" it is because God is OUR father and we are His sons, who ever is saying this prayer, he automatically be among the sons of God, he is my brother and we are one big happy family, God is OUR FATHER. That's what Christianity is all about.

So to my question, why did muhammed accused the christians and Jews of something they no nothing about ?

You said the disciple never called themselves christians then why do you call yourselves that? are you even a follower of jesus? bcoz i am coz i bliv in him

malvisguy212:
listen very carefully, the word "christian " is NOT in the bible, the FIRST time this word was use, they use it to describe the apostles, the Disciples NEVER called themselves christians. Christianity is not a religion, its is a way of life, when the disciples ask Jesus to teach them how to pray, why did Jesus start with the phrase "OUR father" ? Instead of "MY father" it is because God is OUR father and we are His sons, who ever is saying this prayer, he automatically be among the sons of God, he is my brother and we are one big happy family, God is OUR FATHER. That's what Christianity is all about.

So to my question, why did muhammed accused the christians and Jews of something they no nothing about ?

give me the source of the hadith
so you accept that christianity is a religion that the pagans call the early believe....if that is true then that more of a reason why the religion is a scam...how can u call yourselves what your suppose unbelievers call you
and you didnt talk about jesus telling you to be a christian like ur unbeliver call you
please when giving your point make reference to your bible not expkanation
because that wat i think christianity is all about . A FABRUCATED RELIGION

malvisguy212:
https://www.nairaland.com/2769156/should-call-ourselves-christian

furthermore from your link i should conclude that this occur after jesus death mate 300 or 400 years after he gone.....
is it not funny to you let me use an example:- imagine u were the son of god like u said jesus is then years after your enemies death some people claiming to be you follower now start bearing malvisguy2ians or malvisguy2saint or malvisguy2thecalled or whatever it is....is that not pure ignorance did you send them to bear that name? was that part of your teaching?
it is only a gullible or ignorant muslim you can convince with all this point you are postulating