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malvisguy212:
where is the verse ?

very good then i will get it for you but no today shaaa......WILL TAG YOU WHEN IT READY ...PROMISE.

malvisguy212:
When you created the thread, tag me.

Meanwhile, this is what I ask your muslims brothers to explained;


The following Qur’anic verse records Jesus as saying:
Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the
day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall

The chronological sequence of event here is born,die and raised alive. But muslims scholar claims this verse was saying born ,raised alive and die, is this what surah 19:33 was saying ? Alright. We can read an almost identical
passage about John the Baptist in Surah
19:15. Note the similarity in the wordings:

Surah 19:15: And peace on him on
the day he was born, and on the day
he dies, and on the day he is raised
to life.

But in the case of John the baptist, muslims scholars interpret the verse correctly even when the wording of the two verses are IDENTICAL. Allah has left Muslims with little choice other than to deceive and manipulate a verse that really needs no explanation.

If the interpretation of these Muslim
scholars is correct, then Surah 19:33
should have Jesus saying: “Peace on me
the day I was born, and the day I shall
be raised alive and the day I shall die”
in harmony with their claimed chronological sequence of events. But it
does not.

We must ask these scholars, since Surah
19:33 and Surah 19:15 are identical in
the sequence of events, why don’t they
also shift the death of John the Baptist to the future , after his resurrection , as
they did in the case of Jesus? Why the
discrepancy?

also the two verses are correct....
1. in the case f john d baptist God made what he said come to pass
2. in the case of jesus God decided to show his power....is it that difficult to understand because i dont still get your question...DID JESUS HAVE D ABILITY TO SEE D FUTURE...DID HE KNOW WHEN HE WILL DIE....DID E KNOW WHEN HE WAS BORN....DID HE KNOW WHEN PPLE STARTED CONSPIRING TO KILL HIM...DID HE KNOW WHEN D DAY OF ACCOUNTABILITY WILL OCCUR....IF ALL THIS IS NO THEN HOW DO U EXPECT HIM TO KNOW EITHER HE WAS GOING TO B ARISED BE FOR HE DIE .
OR WHAT EXACTLY IS UR QUESTION...COZ I C NO SENSE IN THIS.

malvisguy212:
When you created the thread, tag me.

Meanwhile, this is what I ask your muslims brothers to explained;


The following Qur’anic verse records Jesus as saying:
Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the
day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall

The chronological sequence of event here is born,die and raised alive. But muslims scholar claims this verse was saying born ,raised alive and die, is this what surah 19:33 was saying ? Alright. We can read an almost identical
passage about John the Baptist in Surah
19:15. Note the similarity in the wordings:

Surah 19:15: And peace on him on
the day he was born, and on the day
he dies, and on the day he is raised
to life.

But in the case of John the baptist, muslims scholars interpret the verse correctly even when the wording of the two verses are IDENTICAL. Allah has left Muslims with little choice other than to deceive and manipulate a verse that really needs no explanation.

If the interpretation of these Muslim
scholars is correct, then Surah 19:33
should have Jesus saying: “Peace on me
the day I was born, and the day I shall
be raised alive and the day I shall die”
in harmony with their claimed chronological sequence of events. But it
does not.

We must ask these scholars, since Surah
19:33 and Surah 19:15 are identical in
the sequence of events, why don’t they
also shift the death of John the Baptist to the future , after his resurrection , as
they did in the case of Jesus? Why the
discrepancy?

guy u try to make issue where there is no issue,
jesus said born,die and arise.....john d baptist said the day e was born, die and rise back to life.
which question r u trying to manufacture here
1. r u expecting it to b d same exact words....according to what you posted both jesus and john said born die and arise....SO WHAT THE PROBLEM HERE.
2. also GET THIS ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF FOLLOW THE QURAN AND HADITH not a religion or muslim brother or what u calll it.....IF U HAVE AN ISSUE UR POINT SHOULD B COMING FROM THOSE TWO I MEANTIONED ABOVE
ALSO ISLAM IS NOT LIKE CHRISTIANITY THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSULT MUMMY AND DADDY G.O BEFORE U DO ANY THING
GET THAT FACT....IF U HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE LET ME KNOW....COZ I C NO POINT IN WHAT U JUST POSTED....MUSLIM SCHOLARS KO MUSLIM SCHOLARS NI
WHO ARE EVEN THE SCHOLARS THAT ARE LYING TO U.....I GUESS THEIR IS NO SCHOLAR...U JUST DEVELOPED DIS ON UR OWN.

Scholar8200:
Wish you will raise your issues from the post you quoted. So did Paul also by the same token instruct the Spirit not to bring any message, prophecy, tongue or interpretation through women then? Did he not clarify that statement to mean the asking of questions on the message?

did u just say paul, guy u Bleep up...is it not the same paul that gave a different account about the crucifixion of jesus...do u know that their is a place in the bible that paul said it himself that what he himself(pardon my english) wrote is mixed with lie(can remember the bible verse, maybe a muslim brother can help me with the verse....but if u insist on getting the verse i can help u with it..and i will send it to u... when it ready)

Scholar8200:
1 corinthians 14 34
34. women should keep quiet in the church meetings. they are not allowed to speak.they must be under control.This is also what the law of moses says.
35. if there is something the woman want to know they should ask their husbands. it is shameful for woman to speak in church meetings


The highlighted shows what it means by speaking in the church namely asking of questions which disrupted the services as the verses below shows:


26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

1 Corinth 14:26, 30-33, 40





NOW FOR A PASSAGE THAT DEALS WITH TEACHING OR PREACHING BY WOMEN:


But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Tim. 2:12


This means that a woman's activity (preaching or teaching etc) in the church must be under the authority of, and subject to the man. Note that the passage you quoted has the author referring to the law. Now realise that Miriam, Deborah, etc were prophetesses under the Old testament/Law.

An example of somebody who was guilty of the verse in question is Jezebel mentioned in Revelations:

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Revelations 2:20

The Jezebel here exalted herself and ordained herself to be a teacher against the authority of the pastor!

what point r u trying to make.. r u supporting women preaching in church.?
Also dont misinterprete the bible...did j read the part that says women r not to talk...either it is law or nt ...dont u think it should b abide? ...is d bible not ur holy book...r u following the bibles teachings....ALL THIS LEAD BACK TO MY ORIGIN QUESTION WHY DO WE HAVE MUMMY G.O....
REMEMBER THIS MUMMY G.O SERVE AS MENTOR TO SOME CHRISTIANS, EVEN MALE CHRISTIANS GO AND MEET HER FOR ADVICE(i guess u one of them)...DONT U THINK U GOING AGAINST THE BIBLE LAW.

Scholar8200:
I earnestly look forward to this. And pls not just a single verse panel beaten to say something else. The norm is that what one verse or passage teaches should be corroborated by other parallel verses, patterns and Divine purpose and agreeable to that which is shown of the Divine Nature in the Word.

jxt b patient i go soon serve u ur food.

ummmm getting interest....LET KEEP THE COMMENT ROLLING.

INSHA ALLAH, before the end of nxt week i will create a thrend explaning the bible verse that condemns cricifixion.

1 corinthians 14 34
34. women should keep quiet in the church meetings. they are not allowed to speak.they must be under control.This is also what the law of moses says.
35. if there is something the woman want to know they should ask their husbands. it is shameful for woman to speak in church meetings
36. did God teachings come from you? or are you the only one who have received that teaching


NOW MY QUESTIONS IS WHY DO WE HAVE MUMMY G.O, WHEN THEIR ARE MALES IN THE CHURCH?
CAN YOUR HOLY SPIRIT NOT FILL THOSE MALES IN THE CHURCH THE WAY IT FILLS YOU MUMMY G.O?
WHY IS THAT WOMEN EITHER LEAD OR PART OF THE PEOPLE LEADING YOUR WORSHIP SONGS OR IS IT ONLY MY BIBLE THAT HAS THAT VERSE?
I WANT ANSWERS ROLLING...THANK YOU

oyeludef:
you obviously do not think Allah and Jehova are d same person do you? Am not talking about Jesus right now

am tired of explaning this to u, what else do u want me to say.....DO U WANT ME TO EXPLAIN IN YORUBA.

analice107:
Are you saying Isa and Muhammed is the same person with different names?

no he is saying jesus said mohammed will come after him...READ THE POST SLOWLY.

oyeludef:
Alright can you replace d name Allah with Jehova or yahweh wen u r refering to God in ur next post?

bros there is no replacing here Allah is one,God is one, he created u, he created heaven and earth,he created so many other things....and u take jesus as god....did jesus create u.

analice107:
Why did you open this thread then? If you don't have answers, you shd keep quiet.

Where is Rilwon? Kabir and Empree? Those guys try answering questions, even though they insults, but they answer. This guy here is a joke.
Pls Muslims friends, come in here and help this joke of a person.

sorry for not publishing the reply...CAN U PLS FORWARD UR QUESTION AGAIN LET ME DISGRACE U.

analice107:
Oh God, I was beginning to respect you, until you came up with this. ^^^, why nah? Pls if you start a discussion by way of question and answer, prepare yourself for anything. So far, you have answer no question.
If you are asked to justify something, all u need do is, go to the scripture and draw ur justification out, not resort to insults. That doesn't show rationality.
And, it's bad business if you bring up Songs of Solomon as being sexual in nature. You know why, you muslims try with your last drop of blood to push ur prophet into that same songs of Solomon you are trying to denigrate. That will paint Muhammed further as a pervert. So leave it at that.
And, pls know that sex is not a bad thing. God created sex to be enjoyed by couples. If you will drop that stone and look into SOS, you'll see that the love expressed there was between couples. Stop shutting ur feet. Pls enh? Try.

u can neva c sumtin like song of solomon in d quran
which muslims push mohammed into the songs of solomon....
with a chapter like song of solomon in the bible do u still think it a religious book
u guys r fond of calling mohammed a pervert which quran or bible or hadith confirms dis....if not then i conclude u said this out of hatred for islam
WILL CREATE A THREND ON MONDAY OR BEFORE THEN....THERE IS A PLACE IN THE BIBLE THAT CONDEMNS CRUCIFIXION.....WATCH OUT FOR IT.
ANY OTHER ISSUE YOU HAVE P.M ME.
MASHA ALLAH

Annunaki:
Didirin, if you wanted us to research you shouldn't have opened this thread telling us you will answer our questions here. And by the way most of us that are exposing islam here have done extensive research on mohamed, islam, quoran, hadith and the sunnah and we know without doubt that islam at it's core is a very evil religion.

bros, i said i for ur own gud...d decision is urs to make....MY ONLY PRAYER FOR U IS DAT U DONT REGRET IT WHEN YOU LEAVE DIS DUNYA.

oyeludef:
is Allah d same as d Christian God (Jehova)? If yes, can you make your prayers in His name?

yea Allah is d same as God, christians worship jesus.

PastorAIO:
This matter died 5 years ago. You are the one that has resurrected it. Try and meditate on your mind and find out why you felt a need to resurrect it.

As for me, I have no question.

if u have no quesstion then Bleep off my timeline.

Annunaki:
Dunce, God sends his holy spirit to those who believe and are capable of discerning.

the same thing am saying they have tie ur head with that holy spirit trash.

Annunaki:
If you don't know about mohammed's numerous caravan raid's, you can't claim to be a muslim.

INDEED U R CONFUSED.

Annunaki:
Liar! You never gave any answer but directed me to read 'surah mohamed' without even providing a link. If you are to lazy to answer simple questions, maybe you should seek the services of moe seasoned islamic al taquiya experts to come here and write the lies on your behalf.

if u nt ready to use google then forget.....moreover if for ur own gud i already confirm islam is d way....it in d quran...
THE RESEARCH IS FOR OWN GOOD.

parisbookaddict:
Iran is a Islamic republic run by shia muslims. U sunnis hate shias because of a 1400 year old family succession fued., and u have been killing shia ever since.

Whether u agree or not, shias are muslims.

since u nt ready to accept the fact then i have ntin to say to u....d decision is urz to make.

Annunaki:
So why then did open this thread if you were going to direct us to al taquiya sources to answer simple questions about a man you claim is a prophet

ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF YOU FOLLOW THE QURAN AND HADITH NOT A RELIGION OF WE ASSUME JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD....OR JESUS CREATED YOU(like one of ur brethren told me.

Annunaki:
So why then did open this thread if you were going to direct us to al taquiya sources to answer simple questions about a man you claim is a prophet

I will still repeat myself...INDEED U ARE AN HYPOCRITE.....u asked a question and i gave u d answer and u tryin to divert....U CHRISTIANS SHAAA.

Annunaki:
Mohamed was a serial caravan raider and this is recorded in all the sahih hadiths. He raided the caravans to steal merchant's goods. Is that not armed robbery Or you want to bring up a lie to justify it?

this doesnt answer my requeet forward it to me.....THIS IS PURE HATRED FOR ISLAM

Annunaki:
And since when did the quoran or mohamed become a credible source of information

so are you expecting God to send his angels to paste it on notice board before u beliv in rosululllah...INDEED YOU ARE AN HYPOCRITY.

PastorAIO:
It would help you immensely if you actually read the thread and had some understanding of what was being discussed in the thread.

Someone is accusing Alfa of seeking protection outside of Allah because muslims shouldn't look in the future.

However when you go to the doctor because you're ill the doctor makes a prognosis which is a form of looking into the future.

At this time of the year (about a month ago) if you bought any economic or political magazine they will be full of predictions of 2016 based on which some people will make investments and plan their lives. That too is a form of looking into the future and Allah doesn't have anything to do with it.

If you feel the need to protect yourself with guns and swords, it is because Allah cannot do anything for you. After all according to the poster a muslim must not seek protection outside of allah.

You too have come just to buttress my point. If you are in danger, you will protect yourself. If you need money you will find a job. If you're sick you will take drugs, if you want to know the future you will make prognosis etc. The same thing the Christian (who has sense) the Buddhist and the atheist does, that is what you will do and Allah will not enter the equation at all.

like a muslim brother as said b4 any muslim that looks into the future or visit any of those alfas will be questioned.....DO U HAVE ANY QUESTION.?

PastorAIO:
Total common sense. So please go and advise your muslim brother.

This just shows how smart u r indeed.

PastorAIO:
Total common sense. So please go and advise your muslim brother.

This just shows how smart u r indeed.

Annunaki:
This is still a personal claim by mohamed cause mohamed authored the quoran and not allah. If allah wanted to confirm mohammed as his prophet he should have done so through supernatural means and not through mohamed himself because mohamed can't be trusted. That said, mohamed was far from being a mercy to the world cause he brought nothing but misery to it.

oooool so u know it is in the quran and u wasting my time.....am not forcing u to join islam i just want u to knw the truth bcoz ur questions will start from the grave...u wont evade these questions
WHO IS YOUR LORD?
WHAT IS YOUR RELIGION?
THIS MAN MOHAMMED WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT HIM?

Bakrabas:
ans= "and we've sent you oh Mohammad(saw) not but as a mercy for the Alameen"

Why som killstian pple dnt rizon wit dir brain,r u nt ashamed of d errors in d bybull.do u tink dat book dat ur religion conquerors v reedited it wil b acpted by Allah.D bible wit ova thousands of lov sms,bloody chapters,lebianism page,gay,the luth daughters dat gang raped dir father (wat a bomb blast on a prophet of God).

pls which ayat of quran is this let me paste it to the ignorant fellow

Annunaki:
Olajadon I am still waiting for answers to my questions, stop evading them.

read surah mohammed
2. where is it recorded that mohammed robbed or what r u saying....PLS FORWARD IT TO ME.
3.where is ur brother malvis.

plappville:
Correct man @truthman2012...

like i told truthman, read the whole surah and cure ur ignorance.