₦airaland Forum

LordAdam7:
The colony of Lagos should have never been joined with the Southern and Northern Protectorates. It was solely about British interests. And it clashed with Yoruba interests squarely.

It's a shame really.

And when Lagos and palm oil from the core ND gave way for the discovery of oil, the Fulani knew the British interests could actually serve their interests. It is why to this day, even tho' the Northern and Western (to mean Western Europe and North America) way of life are at complete odds, their interests are well aligned as far as Nigeria is concerned.

It is thus disappointing that exactly 101 years after that shameful capitulation was done, eminent Yorubas who should have known better stopped the only chance at decisively proffering a workable solution in the 2015 elections. And in so doing, orchestrated the biggest mistake since 1960, by handing over power to the same Fulanis for at least the next 24 years (quarter of a century--8 years for each of the northern sub regions). By then, any hopes of restructuring would have been successfully and completely quashed.

And who loses?

-Lord

If I WAS AWOLOWO, I would had done again and again what he did. He refused to take YORUBA RACE into war against Nigeria . Do you know why? THE CALLOUS ACTION OF NNAMDI AZIKWE AND OTHER STRONG EBOES MEN IN THE ARMY. EVEN TILL NOW, YORUBA DETEST THE ARMY, NOT BECAUSE OF BEING AFRAID BUT CANT DIE FOR A COUNTRY THAT WON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR PERSONALITY IN THE FUTURE. THEN, HOW CAN I BLAME TINUBU EVEN IF HE BLUNDERED, AFTER ALL, JONATHAN HUMILIATED US, (YORUBA) AFTER HE USED OUR VOTES TO RISE TO POWER. AS YOU CAN SEE, BOTH FULANIS AND EBOES SEEKS SAME THING.... CONTROL AND OVERLORDING BUT THEY FEARED US (YORUBA) BECAUSE THREE THING WORKS FOR US, WISDOM(POWER OF PEN INCLUSIVE)ONCE WE SAY NO, IT IS FINAL and GOD.PMB has Failed and he can't even have the support of any western POWERS. THE ONLY THING IS THAT, IT IS EITHER PMB LIKE IT OR NOT, YORUBA WONT VOTE FOR IN 2019. AKEREDOLU WAS LEFT ALONE BECAUSE HE IS A YORUBA MAN. PEOPLE HAVE EYES AND THEY WHAT FAYEMI AND FASHOLA DID, BUT WILL THEY BE RELEVANT IN THE FUTURE IN YORUBA LAND?

naijalander:
I suppose one can thank Afonja for being the first person to successfully rebel against the Alaafinate; key word successful but really don't get your hopes up with these old Yoruba dudes. From my study so far, all I see is egos clashing over petty issues. To be honest except for Awolowo (whom I still doubt by the way), I don't think we have such great Yoruba leaders, no offense but these guys were able to centralize an entire area with access to the coast, the coast! they never even tried to build ships. Aromire and co just sat there.

I think most Yoruba people don't get the fact that their ancestors spent the last century dealing in human souls. The economy until early protectorate was slavery, they killed the farms, they put the blacksmiths out of work, the artisans into slavery.

For me, our history is simply a shameful reminder that perhaps it's true; to be a black man is to a waiter at the Earth's banquet.

.I can only affirm one thing here and that's the beauty of self expression. Do you even know it was the evil deed of the Oyomesi that created problems for Alaafinnate when they did lied and perfected the method of forcing AROLE OBA to commit suicide after his father's demise. I can categorically imagine how many would had ran away for their dear lives due to this reason(because Yoruba will say “ILE SANMI DUN JE JU OYE LO",. That was where the problems really started from because they overturned the status quo just to be able to curtail the excess power of Alaafin. Having noticed this, it was practically impossible for some of the things you mentioned as per proper development to be made to become reality because THEY WERE STACKED ILLITERATES. That's why the only thing they could remember was they migrated from Middle East which were proven by information such as these. Lineage Eulogy(ORIKI IDI LE), rendition, mourning of the death(difference between young dead ones and aged),Believe of life after death, worship of seven skull of the dead king of Israel under the name of Obatala , inheriting once brother's wife after one's brother's death, Elders as family heads etc. These were some of the things the remember because they were customs Yoruba naturally aren't the traveling type, even when they do, they always refer to their ancestral home,so these also gave rise to the problem you empahise. But in my greatest shocking finding was that, THE BRITISH EMPIRE NEARLY KILLED YORUBA RACE BECAUSE THEY CREATED NIGERIA AT THE DETRIMENT OF YOURUBAS. IMAGINE, IF IT WAS A YORUBA NATION, AND IN 1950S, AWOLOWO BROUGHT TELEVISION TO WESTERN NIGERIA, WHICH WAS THE FIRST IN AFRICA, WHEN IN FACT MANY COUNTRIES IN EUROPE WERE NOT HAVING THE MONEY TO DO SUCH, THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT 50 YEARS AFTER, WE WOULD HAVE BE ON EQUAL ECONOMIC PROWESS WITH SOUTH KOREAN ON A LOW KEY BUT ON A HIGH NOTE, WITH THE SAME LEVEL JAPAN. WHY DID I MENTION JAPAN? JAPAN DOES NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE NATURAL RESOURCE. And Now am Happy because the GOD whom was our ANCIENT GOD has returned unto us because we have returned unto him. Almighty God has proclaim our land as the Land to worship him. And I hope you catch this spiritual information. They will come and praise Almighty God in Yoruba land either WORLD LIKES IT OR NOT. WE ARE THE CHOSEN RACE.SULTAN BELLO CAUGHT THE VISION WHEN HE EXPOSED US, BISHOP AJAYI CROWTHER TOLD THEM IN BRITAIN, REV. SAMUEL JOHNSON TOLD THEM IN HIS BOOK BUT THEY BURNT THE ORIGINAL COPY OR THREW IT AWAY. LOOK AROUND YOU, IN YORUBA LAND. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN.

ayokellany:
Igbo n chesting beating smh.

From burning down the Zoo to being locked up on jail indefinitely this slowpoke is still chest beating he will bring down the country. A country your fore father Ojukwu couldn't safgaurd his people talkless of bringing the country down.

Please,no need to get involved in an Eboe matter. Let them be. Proudly Yoruba.

KingSango:
Keep holding your breath and you'll end up a skeleton.

What I wrote is as paradoxical as it was stated. It takes a wisdom given from above to unravel the mystery of a king God called JESUS. If you don't know him, you can't understand him, if you cant understand him, you can't partake in his promise, If you can't partake in his promise,you can't be with him, and if you can't be with him then you can't reign with him in his kingdom. Learn the eternal wisdom from JESUS and you will be shown the truth about the principle that guide your journey on earth to ETERNAL BLISS.

naijalander:
Yes there is a letter. However it does not explicitly say 'come and be king over us at Ilorin' It was a call for help against the pagans bullying them. The flag symbolizes Sokoto overlordship over the muslims of Ilorin, not the pagans.

are you sure they are pagan? I thought Yoruba had and still have a Deity called Eledumare /olodumare /Olorun. Do you call that paganism? A people that stood and fight Against Islamization of Yoruba land. Do you think it wasnt GOD that helped the Yoruba warriors who fought against Jihadist? Yoruba Race are not ordinary Race. If you understand spiritualism, you know what I mean. It wasn't ordinary they fought against themselves at first and again fought and won against the Jihadist 1839/1840.

dEastActivist:
Lol.. I need to leave it to those that specialises on that field whom I have great respect for like somebody like Onwuka, you should agree with me that I need to engage myself more on things that should relate to my discipline which here is computer science.
Having said all that, I can get you link as I can't start derailing this treachery exposé of a thread called some people's history.

cool.enjoy your more knowledge discovery on your discipline.

ItsQuinn:
what does rihanna have to do with this? You are so off point chisos!

Perhaps your hidden personality is what he want to unravel so as to compare it with your intellectual prowess on some issues.

KingSango:
The Hebrew texts are all lies, the Bible all lies, the Quran mostly lies based upon the Bible, yet Muhammad was real. Jesus doesn't exist.

Really?,If Jesus wasn't real, how come did Al Quran mentioned his birth and his life on earth. You need to study harder. JESUS IS MORE REAL THAN YOUR BREATH.

1kinggy:
Thisis a matter of perspectives. Reminds me of Olugbo's stand on Moremi.
Someone's hero is another's villain.

According to a writer: History of nations is biography of certain men. And I dare to add, from writers point of view.

True, you can express your view but considering all angle on physically and spiritually sound mind of AFONJA,who was a man who fought and died without running from his place of abode,what do you call him? A LION or FOX? My reason for this is that many have written ills about Yoruba as being Back stabbers which we are not. People have failed to look at the course of an issue but always look at the aftermath .Have some people asked why is it so easy to stay and live in peace in Yoruba towns and cities and it is not like so in some parts of the North? Posterity is always around to judge everyone.

Kasich:
Even Nairaland mods are against MMM, I wonder why, my comments get deleted because I support MMM they may even ban me soon, but I don't care, come January if Nairaland is still like this I'll just delete the site and never come back to it.

There's too much hate here, now every loser wants to have a say in MMM, ask them to give u one thousand naira to buy food and watch how they start telling you how broke they are.

MMM has taught me how to invest ( u can bash me by saying this is not investment because it doesn't yield any good, but let me ask you about those guys that invest their stock on pornography production does it add any good to the society, but isn't it still considered as an investment), MMM taught me how to save money, MMM has made me believe that I don't actually need any family member to foot my bills just because am a Corper... You will never see my referer link here that's cos am not in need of anyone's money, I don't need your percentage to survive, I don't need your input in my life to survive, I have been doing fine all along.

Posterity will remember the day I woke up by 1am and took it upon myself as a duty to calm nerves despite having 600k in MMM already and still willing to add another 200k on Friday , when the dust settles come January history will remember those who stood by what they believe and those who were unsure of their footing.

Stay blessed Mavrodians, may they good Lord not allow others laugh at us in the end in Jesus name, Amen.

I rest my case

You may be lucky to hit that 600k target but how many 1000s unlucky ones can you see?, Have you come across a name called WEALTH SOLUTION? A wonder Banks which multiply your money invested within a given period of time for it to be mature enough to be cash out. I see the similarity between it and what you call MMM. The Economic name for it is HEDGE .I was a victim of Wealth solution but my friend got paid before payment was stopped. So, as I had mentioned earlier, you may be lucky, what about uncountable unlucky ones?.You folks just need to be careful...

I want to piece of advise if taken though on the banning of people on any of the platform here on nairaland. I was reading through @LordAdam7 view on him being banned for five months. However, considering a germane point he raised on the identity he use on this platform for so many transaction,which might hurt his connection. Based on this do I suggest, instead of outright banning, which may lead some people to exit this platform. I am even looking at some people who perhaps were pioneer members that had LEFT for good because of being banned. Irrespective of the age, people can be passionate about a view held so strong and can go off track, doesn't mean a negative thinker today cannot be a positive thinker, another day. So, I will advise to punish anyone in a milder way to have more and sustained followers . For instance, you can tell such personality to tender an online apology to the forum as well as to the offended in such a way that there is a compile lists of the offended,whom apology are tendered towards . God bless you on your effort.

dEastActivist:
You need link?

nope,write it out as others do.Proof it with your research

dEastActivist:

I know my history very well...
I am a descendant of ERi son of Gad...
And other socio-Religio-political historical occurrence that occurred can be shared on request or via link sharing.

What do you think will happen when I ask you, the olugbo of ugbo, the ooni of ife, and the oba of Benin on the history of Yoruba in a setting??

I have learnt that about some of you claiming Eri, son of Gad . I am a full fledged Yoruba. And my question is, how far have you gone to proof your ancestral link to Gad either, culturally or by path of migration?

naijalander:
The thread is about the Yoruba Revolutionary Wars against Oyo constitutional monarchy. Afonja just happens to be a player in this, there have been rebellions before Afonja.

You know nothing about History. If Afonja wasn't a great physical and spiritual warrior,how come his name is forever in the mindsets of ILORIN YORUBAs and the rest of Yoruba Race even the Abdusallam whose mother was Yoruba which is not even important . Little do you know.Do you know how Emir Momoh died? Ilorin was recreated by the British Empire in 1895/1896 after the British defeated the Ilorin Army commanders who were the Baloguns who made the Emir their puppet. Irrespective of Afonja rebellion,he remained unshaken even unto death. That was A GREAT WARRIOR.

sirfee:
Hmmmm!"Rebirth".I love the last sentence of your post.

Thanks .Nigeria is an aberration ever since I had known the crazy and manipulative tendencies of these men who made politics a do or die to assume political positions. And ATIKU is a member of that class. So shocking on the legacy these set of men want to leave behind because most of them are in their 60s and 70s. A legacy that is driving Nigeria to what an IBO AFRICA'S LEGEND WRITER called late Professor CHINUA ACHEBE once wrote, “WHEN THE CENTER CAN NOT HOLD,THINGS FALL APART". Isn't it so if the land is bewildered with people like ATIKU and the likes seeking power from the populace whose division is as Europeans against Republic of Turkey. So laughable few greedy and blood sucking politicians .

johnpaulinweb:
he Mavrodi Mondial Moneybox (MMM) on Tuesday, freezes all confirmed accounts of its members that are due for withdrawal.

According to MMM admin, the one-month freezing of participants mavros is to prevent problems during the New Year season and restore calm within the community.

Details here: http://www.thegistbaze.com/2016/12/mmm-one-month-freezing-of-all-confirmed.html?m=1

Time will tell.

sirfee:
We are saying the same thing bro,I know he's your dad but let's call a spade a spade.Do you trust this polithiefcians?during campaigns they will promise heaven on earth,but they do the opposite when they are in power.For instance,this Buhari administration has undergone political metamorphosis since his election.Thank you.

Truth ABOUT LIFE IS,IF YOU DONT BUY FAKE, YOU CANT DIFFERENTIATE WHEN YOU BUY ORIGINAL. ATIKU SEEMS TO PORTRAY THE NEEDED CHARACTER TO BRING THE EXPECTED “CHANGE" BUT CAN THIS REBIRTH OF A MAN WHO HAD BENEFITED FROM THE PAST GOVERNMENT BE GENUINE ? These people are just too cunning to be trusted.

jeffizy:
[color=#004400] Atiku speaks maturely and with vibrancy.
I just don't know the other side of him that makes him abhorred within the political circle.

You may say corruption, but has he been convicted of that in any law court?
Or could it be his penchant for switching allegiance at will? [/color]

There is something about human being that followers don't know, and it is called human dynamic tendency. Why do I mentioned such?, Honestly looking back at the recent utterances of ATIKU, I can see a man wanting to rewrite history on behalf of the core Northern elites because, it seems God has given him the insight on the eventual possibility of Nigeria's imminent BREAK UP. And he, being a wise man from the North who is widely travelled,has seen it happening. However ,an average southerner from the core South East or Yoruba Race either at the North Central or South West is doubtful of his speech which is contrary to his perceived personality of Northerner,using all form of oratory to persuade people on clinging unto power as soon as been given the opportunity to serve, and eventually become anti South,all in the name of “BORN TO RULE" . However, Time will tell. Be as it may, my concern is, even if ATIKU is given a chance to rule,though 60% impossible, then it means Northerners would be ruling for twelve (12) years . It is totally incomprehensible. Even if anyone desire to run against this mammoth, callous and non compliant to salvaging Nigeria's economy federal government of Mohammed Buhari .It will be preferable be contested against by green horn. This will be a dimmed fit permutation should a NORTH CENTRAL Man /IBO vice president supported by North Central Region and totally it with southern block support will obviously take up this challenge, and definitely will take away power from PMB but not ATIKU.

nazzyon:
President Muhammadu Buhari has described high rate of illegal migration of Nigerian youths to European countries through Mediterranean Sea as worrying.

Buhari made the remark on Monday at 32rd Annual Meeting of Sahel and West Africa, organised by Food Crisis Protection Network in Abuja.

The president, who was represented by Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development, Audu Ogbeh, called for an immediate stop to the action by Nigerians, saying it was unfair to European countries.

He said that agriculture revitalisation was a solution to migration issue, while expressing readiness of his administration to support farmers in order to boost local production in the country.

http://www.theguildng.com/?p=10648

LAUGHABLE STATEMENT

IamRancho:
Is bringing Comedian's To Church a God thing??
What's Your View!!

GOD continue to bless sir for speaking out on it. I hope they will understand when GOD almighty is using you to inform them all.

bigFOOTcaveMAN:
TINUBU did not add anything tangible to 2015 election Buhari won fare and square. Buhari doesnt need Tinubu shikenan!

HOW MANY GENUINE “LIKE" ARE YOU GOING TO GET?

tociano009:
Really

Buhari has killed this democracy. How on earth will the whole world sees this happening in Nigeria? A real shame!

Firefire:
I doubt this story.


APC is winning ALL in Rivers.

forget this APC stuff bro. is this the purpose of founding APC to rig? or allowing the killing in such magnitude as they did last Saturday ? is this the party you desire?wanting power at all cost like the previous PDP federal government ?. Those who loved their families during the last election will feel it hard.

dustmalik:
Wailing Observer group, sponsored by PDP

IKU TI O PA OJU GBA ENI OWE NLA LO PA FUN NI. It is beyond PDP but absolute ANARCHY by PMB. This is not democracy but military regime in MUFTI

waternogetenemy:
Though am impressed at the level of interest u show towards a group of people u knew nothing about 120 years ago. Whilst u obsess over igbos and our women, u appear to have abandoned ur brothers in Benin Republic.

It is a point of discussion for yorubas now to tell every igbo man they are marrying our women. Let me ask u do u want an award? Does it make u feel more Igbo and accepted? I can tell u that the feeling is not mutual, igbos want nothing to do with yorubas and dat is why a lot of them are diligently pursuing the Biafra course.

U have made no sense in the last two days of this discourse.

Were you born 120 years ago? so if not accept the truth and move on with your sorry butt.

KingSango:
Yoruba and Hausa are from Kemet, east africa. The Bible is fake. Oduduwa is royal blood of Kemet who lead his people in west africa because kemet had fallen to invasion, drought and social decay. Oduduwa lean and tall like most east africans. So was his son Akanbi and his son, Oranmiyan was 7 feet tall. Living in West Africa Yoruba became short and fat.

Oranmiyan was a great warrior and fighter who was the true heir of the small kingdom of Ile Ife and surrounding towns. He set to expand his empire and created Oyo Empire. How would he return to Ife if Oranmiyan was now emperor? So upon his death did Oranmiyan return to his origins to be honored and buried.

The Ooni was a chief and keeper of the city. The Ooni had no army to rule anything. The Bashorun is head of the army of Oyo Empire and head of the Oyo Mesi. The Alaafin is God on Earth and the Oyo Mesi bow to him.

The Ogboni initiate all kings but no king initiate Ogboni. The Ogboni are the real rulers of the land. and can check the Alaafins power and the Oyo Mesi. Ogboni hold judicial power over the Oyo Oyo Empire. This is how come people fear Ogboni. The head of Ogboni is an Oba whose title is hereditary. His bloodline goes back to the pharoah of Kemet. The head of Ogboni is Obatala and the baba of Sango, the Alaafin. The elders run Africa everywhere in Africa. Ancient and hidden orders rule the continent.

The women are the real origin of the bloodlines. Instead of men arguing over who has the most power remember it was your mother who gave you your throne. There is always one man and three women at the least. There are more women in power than men. The many wives of chiefs and obas. The women allow the men to rule but Oya is the most powerful Irunmole and head of all women. Oya is the secret to Sangos power. Dont forget it. Yemaya bloodline is real also and some queens hold ancient titles of authority over men. Ase.

Don't misinform. Baba Sango was fashioned after Olukoso. And dont see eye ball to eye Ball with Alaafin because both bow to no one human being but to ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE

KingSango:
Yoruba and Hausa are from Kemet, east africa. The Bible is fake. Oduduwa is royal blood of Kemet who lead his people in west africa because kemet had fallen to invasion, drought and social decay. Oduduwa lean and tall like most east africans. So was his son Akanbi and his son, Oranmiyan was 7 feet tall. Living in West Africa Yoruba became short and fat.

Oranmiyan was a great warrior and fighter who was the true heir of the small kingdom of Ile Ife and surrounding towns. He set to expand his empire and created Oyo Empire. How would he return to Ife if Oranmiyan was now emperor? So upon his death did Oranmiyan return to his origins to be honored and buried.

The Ooni was a chief and keeper of the city. The Ooni had no army to rule anything. The Bashorun is head of the army of Oyo Empire and head of the Oyo Mesi. The Alaafin is God on Earth and the Oyo Mesi bow to him.

The Ogboni initiate all kings but no king initiate Ogboni. The Ogboni are the real rulers of the land. and can check the Alaafins power and the Oyo Mesi. Ogboni hold judicial power over the Oyo Oyo Empire. This is how come people fear Ogboni. The head of Ogboni is an Oba whose title is hereditary. His bloodline goes back to the pharoah of Kemet. The head of Ogboni is Obatala and the baba of Sango, the Alaafin. The elders run Africa everywhere in Africa. Ancient and hidden orders rule the continent.

The women are the real origin of the bloodlines. Instead of men arguing over who has the most power remember it was your mother who gave you your throne. There is always one man and three women at the least. There are more women in power than men. The many wives of chiefs and obas. The women allow the men to rule but Oya is the most powerful Irunmole and head of all women. Oya is the secret to Sangos power. Dont forget it. Yemaya bloodline is real also and some queens hold ancient titles of authority over men. Ase.

....The first ONIOSA IFE was Odu'a and After him ruled two other other ones before Oranmiyan/oranyah/Oranyan and he ruled as ONI IFE till he died. True, a great warrior, he was and fighter of who defended Yoruba Race when he created ILE IBINU/BINI and finally OYO ILE alongside with his warriors and Chiefs before he retired as ONI IFE when there was a problem from Obatala lineage who accused the third(Obalufon) ONI IFE of not being from a Royal matrilineal home though genuinely Descendant of Odu'a. Which perhaps was the reason Oranya had to assume that position,irrespective of the diverse opinion on the said Obalufon descension as second in command to ONI IFE till infinity. That is the position his lineage hold at IFE till date always went to found EFON Alaaye as king himself but his descendants reigns as second in command at ILE IFE.

KingSango:
Yoruba and Hausa are from Kemet, east africa. The Bible is fake. Oduduwa is royal blood of Kemet who lead his people in west africa because kemet had fallen to invasion, drought and social decay. Oduduwa lean and tall like most east africans. So was his son Akanbi and his son, Oranmiyan was 7 feet tall. Living in West Africa Yoruba became short and fat.

Oranmiyan was a great warrior and fighter who was the true heir of the small kingdom of Ile Ife and surrounding towns. He set to expand his empire and created Oyo Empire. How would he return to Ife if Oranmiyan was now emperor? So upon his death did Oranmiyan return to his origins to be honored and buried.

The Ooni was a chief and keeper of the city. The Ooni had no army to rule anything. The Bashorun is head of the army of Oyo Empire and head of the Oyo Mesi. The Alaafin is God on Earth and the Oyo Mesi bow to him.

The Ogboni initiate all kings but no king initiate Ogboni. The Ogboni are the real rulers of the land. and can check the Alaafins power and the Oyo Mesi. Ogboni hold judicial power over the Oyo Oyo Empire. This is how come people fear Ogboni. The head of Ogboni is an Oba whose title is hereditary. His bloodline goes back to the pharoah of Kemet. The head of Ogboni is Obatala and the baba of Sango, the Alaafin. The elders run Africa everywhere in Africa. Ancient and hidden orders rule the continent.

The women are the real origin of the bloodlines. Instead of men arguing over who has the most power remember it was your mother who gave you your throne. There is always one man and three women at the least. There are more women in power than men. The many wives of chiefs and obas. The women allow the men to rule but Oya is the most powerful Irunmole and head of all women. Oya is the secret to Sangos power. Dont forget it. Yemaya bloodline is real also and some queens hold ancient titles of authority over men. Ase.

....I do appreciate your vast studying but not true. First, Ododuwa didn't exist before ORUNMELA. And they were not kemetic men. My reasons are many, namely, Monotheistic Diety called Eledumare/Eledua/Eleda. Egyptians worshiped queen of the sun, different from the well awesome owner of heaven and earth called another name as olorun,(Olu-orun) who owns everything both on earth and in heaven who has multiple deities overseeing all his work on his behalf. This is exactly a corruption of the ideology of Almighty God in the Bible/Isrealites who has multiple of legions of Angels doing his bidding. For examples ; there are eshu odara and eshu Laalu ogiri oko etc. So Yoruba Race are a lost but found Race. If we are Kemetic, how come,we are never mentioned in the history of Egyptians? Do you think Yoruba haven't been traced by white researchers to Egypt?, My dear friends ,they did it and nothing as connecting us to their culture but some certain words/terms/language borrowed . But there was certain thing that showed, and it was that Yoruba had one time lived in Egypt before. So Won't Israelites who lived in Egypt for four hundred years (400+ years) didn't have in their language borrowed words from Egypt?. Even ,Togo or Sierra Leone, the Yoruba who were there when the slave trade stopped can't even speak Yoruba anymore but a little traces of term similarity will be seen in their new formed language,etc.And you are wrong on Odu'a, there was no place where he was pronounced as being gigantic human beings nor a great warrior but a great leader that unified Yoruba Race. Please, correct me, who was the man that Odu'a was termed to had killed on his rise to the leadership of Spiritual leader at ILE IFE? After all in all the history of mankind, no one take over as a leader of another people without killing all their NOBLE MEN that will keep protesting against such person's rise to power forcefully. Proof wrong on this theory too. Please give me a proof if you have any?. Then on Obatala, he was an Ogboni but he lost the position as the absolute leaders at ILE IFE. I don't want to go too deep into the numerous cult group in Yoruba land but I can inform you on one thing, and it is on Alaafin,in the ancient time,he was never the absolute power in Oyo Empire but the Oyomesi. Only Oni IFE that could not be told to commit suicide or wage war against. Do you even know who was referred to as Osagangan? inform us on what you know about him. Others and I want learn new things from you.

macof:
your case is more than I thought. seek help my fellow yoruba man, seek help you are not thinking straight

Little do you know. I am tempted to believe that you know little or let mention here or much about a legend scientist called Einstein, whose work Waves Theory of over 70 + years was proved to be true in 2016. The truth about life is when one decides to open his her mind to both rational and irrational thought, then you find in between the silver lining. Bro, you need to read beyond Nigeria and stop condemning the truth. If Yoruba were local people, how come Sultan Bello mentioned Yoruba as Remnant of Canaanites?are you countering this view? how come, all the researchers in the past credited Yoruba having Israelites culture embedded in our culture? How come Dierk Lange new about the worship of Seven Skull of the ancient kings of Israel under the name of OBATALA?, Then I realized, certain mistakes you made which was, how on earth do you ascertain the original way the Hebrews /Jews/Israelites/Aramaic pronounces? Proof a picture to me where you had studied enough to have seen a Davidic lineage portrait, if it is not assumptions ?

macof:
please I'm a very busy person. try not to mention me to crazy things like this


El Shaddai means Deity of the high points, which refers to mountains... some early translators thought it to mean " God almighty" ... yahweh - the god of Israel was originally a Kenite deity, generally considered as the God of the mountains and sky who had the stars and rocks as his army (figuratively speaking of course)
many times in Hebrew scriptures, yahweh is said to send his "hosts of heaven (the sky)"...referring to stars. . Yahweh has also been repeatedly associated with mountains eg. Mt. Sinai, Horeb, Zion.
in fact Jewish scriptures state hr resides in the Mt. Zion



El Shaddai has not to do with Aseda who in Yoruba cosmology is Obatala Aseda Aye

Aseda means "one who sets foundation" it has no correlation with "deity of the high points"

I don't want to over flog these issues but I want you to liberate your mind from localising Yoruba Race. My reasons are not far fetched. Obatala may have been credited with such paraphernalia by some people BUT the truth is that, at no time did OBATALA called himself with such. After all, lineage ORIKI is there to support my view. Apart from famed myth which is not true because All of them DIED who were Yoruba ancient founding fathers. And they became a reference point to connecting to all powerful GOD. Then between ORUNMIELA and Obatala, who existed first, and do you know Orunmela WA also known as Baba Agbonmeregun' and his Oriki?, Did ORUNMELA ruled as king or not? that should throw light into it. However, I wouldn't want to take any of your time if you are not willing to see beyond ILE IFE. ILE IFE was never where Yoruba started from. They all landed on this territory when EGYPT collapsed neither are they Egyptians . I have studied beyond ILE IFE. Have you been to IDANRE hill?, if yes, did visit the where there handwritten on the mountain? Did you see the ancient boat like called the Ark of Noah by the locals?etc That is a pointer to where the came from. Lastly, the reason the white researchers are more advanced was /is because they question EVERYTHING around them.

macof:
smh. I think you are too obsessed with hebrews, It has to do with your christian background and indoctrination that Hebrews are a special people. clinging to them means a lot to you.#
when you have sang 'abraham is my father' so many times you have now gotten to actually believe it


You can twist and wish all you like but I will tell you this; the bible is not a history book.

also, I looke it up, Light in hebrew is 'ohr' not 'ara',

the sun doesn't have a general orbit, it is rather a cental object being orbitted...which is the other way round. it is the earth that moves around the sun not the sun moving around the earth...this is basic physics that 10 year olds know, so your bible's tale of joshua is more stupod than a virgin giving birth

what business does 'obadiah' have to do with yoruba lanuage?, please dont disturb me with things like this...in your head every language that has words with 'oba' is related to yoruba. please go and read about Anglicization of hebrew names, there's no such thing as 'obadiah' in hebew language... what they have is 'ovadyah'('abdyah' in Aramaic) meaning servant of yah, which english language rendered as 'obadiah'


something is really wrong with the way you take ethnology and linguistics

I insist “ARA" is light.. ARAZIEL / ARA-ZI-EL(light of God) in Israeli. No obsession but I am open to critics view. The Bible remained the greatest historic book which has information on humanity. Either with knowing the description of important people who had existed in thousands of years ago. And can always serve as weapon against spiritual book of protection and guidance for Christians.

macof:
smh. I think you are too obsessed with hebrews, It has to do with your christian background and indoctrination that Hebrews are a special people. clinging to them means a lot to you.#
when you have sang 'abraham is my father' so many times you have now gotten to actually believe it


You can twist and wish all you like but I will tell you this; the bible is not a history book.

also, I looke it up, Light in hebrew is 'ohr' not 'ara',

the sun doesn't have a general orbit, it is rather a cental object being orbitted...which is the other way round. it is the earth that moves around the sun not the sun moving around the earth...this is basic physics that 10 year olds know, so your bible's tale of joshua is more stupod than a virgin giving birth

what business does 'obadiah' have to do with yoruba lanuage?, please dont disturb me with things like this...in your head every language that has words with 'oba' is related to yoruba. please go and read about Anglicization of hebrew names, there's no such thing as 'obadiah' in hebew language... what they have is 'ovadyah'('abdyah' in Aramaic) meaning servant of yah, which english language rendered as 'obadiah'

something is really wrong with the way you take ethnology and linguistics

it has nothing to do with obsession. “ohr",it is called by people who claimed it as Hebrew and written by English and western scholars who were historians. I am going to send to you in few days eye opener. Once again, it has nothing to do with obsession but the foundation of which a monotheistic being called ‘El'shadai ( Elshada(Asheda/)is synonym.