₦airaland Forum

yemre:
On the effects of AI on our brains and intellectual activities, it is just unfortunate this is happening but then, you must we will do at this point is to embrace it and use it to our advantage. We cannot control it but we can take advantage of it.

Thank you.

I don't think we can take advantage of it

I do a bit of research and are in STEM education and there's parts of my brain that works when I'm looking up stuff, that when I used to rely on ChatGPT to give answers, never worked. Because in reading up one thing, I would divert to another topic and my knowledge base would expand.

I also happen to know bits and pieces about the most expensive education the global elite are giving their kids and they're avoiding their own products like the plague: no TV screens, no AI, even the subjects and topics they do will shock most Nigerians. They encourage their kids to think creatively and problem solve and learn mental skills AI can't touch and maintain brain plasticity.

These folks pay premium ($70,000 for primary school alone per year) to avoid what they're shovelling down our throats.

They avoid smart fridges that have screens, they won't be using the latest phones because they know they built ways to bypass their own security protocols (but sold that to you).

If you asked Bill Gates to buy a Tesla cyber truck, he will laugh you out of his garage.

yemre:
Yes, you are right. It's not that AI can not replace those things but I mean, the need for accountability would not make those professions easily replaceable.

Besides, remember that when it has direct link with wellness and survival, it can not be completely left in the hands of AI. This is because anything can go wrong, someone needs to be accountable.

Look at graphics, you create stuffs with prompts and you are at liberty to rephrase your prompts until you achieve perfection or what you want. The same can not be said for surgery, nursing or aviation where any slight errors in the prompt can make an aircraft intended for London as destination might end up in Australia. Or any miscommunication with a surgeon ends up pulling off his patients intestines instead of just shifting it in a procedure.

In summary, we need to evolve just as fast and accept this AI as an assistive tool in any sector we find ourselves.

Going to spend 4 good years in the university is basic but in the process, embrace AI to solidify and get you well grounded in that course.

It is really an eye opener for the new upcoming generations.

I will disagree with some of your point and brain54's points, too

(Good morning, btw)

Firstly, Commercial Airplanes can literally fly themselves. Everything has been done for them in the cockpit excepts checks with ATC towers, infact almost every plane mishap nowadays is due to Pilot Error rather than mechanical failures. But we need pilots still.

Telemedicine has moved further ahead in China and USA. It's not doing so well in the USA, a dental student in a rural clinic just died.

China seems to be doing AI better.

Thirdly, Machine Learning is great (even Lego is now pushing Machine Learning ahead of Engineering and Robotics, at kids). Chatbots are crap (Claude, ChatGPT etc).

Why?

In education purposes, they're slowly eroding human ability to reason and logic properly. Teachers and professors are now seeing serious degradation in students' ability to memorize and learn and keep any new information. Human beings are losing brain plasticity very quickly. Medically, that's really bad (lots of diseases coming up pretty quickly, your elderly parents were healthier than us).

Let me put it this way: your reliance on AI to do basic things doesn't free you up to do complex things because we evolved by doing basic things and made it complex. AI is devolving us. To understand how bad human devolution may end up, there was a weird Sci-Fi show called "Raised By Wolves". Also, books like Aldous Huxley "Brave New World", where everyone is assigned roles from birth.

We will also need population control since "hey, we don't need so many humans, AI will do most of it!". Guess which race will be on the chopping block first, due to the fact that politicians globally and even the billionaires with AI companies keep saying openly "some cultures don't contribute much, ya know". I mean, just look at how once anti-inmigration sentiment has been pushed for the last decade quietly on social media and has exploded to the point people don't care if migrant boats full of people who look like you and I get shot and drowned at sea.

Turkeys and Chickens shouldn't vote for Christmas.

We are being forced AI done our throats whether we want it or not (I was writing a personal email and AI kept asking if I needed help to draft it or "let's fine tune it", nope no need, this needs to feel human).

Ask yourself why?

MsFaith:
I’ve not been in myself lately.

I just hope it’s not what people call “depression”.

Just sad & lonely.

😞 I don’t want to talk to anybody.

Pele

Please hang in there

What do you like doing for fun?

One looks at Africa, its people and leaders and then compare them to Asia, Oceania, Europe and the Americas...

This procedure is so dangerous, they suffer from side effects of over stimulation to their ovaries, the clinic harvests as much as possible, these girls have to pay their agent and even the friend that took them to the clinic and at the end of the day, they're left with N150,000 or less or and severe stomach and chest pains and taking antibiotics in the hopes that nothing else goes wrong. And they'll still spend out of that money to treat themselves because all the fertility clinics will give them is antibiotics and Panadol.

And the predatory friend and agent will be encouraging them to come and do another round.

I've had to talk a lady out of going for a 2nd roundo

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Love800:
Okay.
The south south soil is fragile and weak!

Alright.

In summary you saying that because the soil in Northern nigeria is okay, thats why an artisan here will build a good house? But in the south, the soil will expose his limited knowledge?

Am i making sense?
Am trying to wrap up your comment in my head.

Geologically,

Lagos is a swamp, Ogun state has granite, the SE has clay-like soil which absorbs water and is prone to erosion without vegetation and the North is mostly arid.

Roads built in Kano are cheaper, will require less maintenance and will last longer than roads built in Lagos. Same with buildings: Lagos house walls will be absorbing sea water causing it to erode and weather much faster than Kano.

So an experienced Artisan can get away with constructing a 3 bedroom residential one-story building in Kano. If he tries that in Lagos, the house may literally sink depending on where he's building (Festac and Lekki are swampier than Ikeja. OPIC estate just outside Lagos sank completely, buildings are partially submerged).

Civil Engineers are trained to request for soil assessment and design the appropriate foundation for the soil and building usage.

They work with Building Contractors (who are tradesmen) and those ones will understand what is required of them.

Even the way they lay cement abroad uses machinery that spreads the concrete evenly to cure without cracks (we do it manually here in Nigeria and only for high-rise buildings do we have those machines and they're operated by the Lebanese and Chinese building contractors).

There's a clear distinction in job roles. But in Naija, one man can do 3 jobs.

Love800:
What exactly do you mean by the bolded?

Soil property and geology which affects the type of foundation the building will require.

If you want me to explain more, you can go "please share more" 🙂

Love800:
What's the difference between a tradesman and bricklayer?

A bricklayer abroad is a tradesman, he went through a licensed apprenticeship (comprising of classes at a school with exam, may take up to 3 years and learn masonry, stonework and brick work). They even have a Union in Nigeria, apparently.

Same with Plumbing and Electrical work. Even Truck Driving is a special license.

But what we call "bricklayer" in Nigeria is some unskilled artisan who doesn't know what they're doing and produces the kind of shoddy work we normally see.

GloriousGbola:
Nigerians SAY they want things to work better, but my experience is 95% of the time, Nigerians want to pay the barest minimum for a service. If you tell them your price is n500, they will rather go for a person paying n100 whose competence is not clear. However our own internal inferiority complex will have us paying Lebanese n2000 for the same job

As an engineer I have frequently come across Nigerians who will undercut you (steal your design and get someone to do for lower cost) or who will argue about features that make system more robust. Within the construction industry developers have bypassed engineers by doing 'direct labour' where they engage artisans directly to build.

This one is our "Undercutting, Penny-wise, Pound-foolish, Manage-Am-Like-Dat" culture that we need to stamp out.

Pay for excellence and peace of mind. It won't be cheap but you won't suffer.

I learned it the hard way, several times.

I tell people: an experienced Artisan can build a small residential house in Ogun state or Kano state for you. But if you try yourself in Lagos, the SE or Rivers you go hear wiun.

One last thing:

The Nigerians that will japa to get work as Tradesmen, especially in Construction and Supply Chains and then come back to Nigeria, will make 💵💰

Why? Because everyone is building gated estates and flats and communities, in Lagos and the South (I don't know about the Middle Belt and the North). They require interconnected plumbing and wiring and maintenance. We don't have good facility management skills here (1004, I'm looking at ya😑).

Speedaf is struggling with their Nigerian logistics partners, someone can step into the gap with them.

Even running warehousing, take the skills from Amazon and bring am here. Something big is coming up with Ethopian Airlines and Chinese companies (they have warehouses here, more will come). See work that is plentiful and can be skilled to other African countries even.

Don't let foreigners come here and take those jobs too whilst you're hustling in their country collecting insult and begging for passport.

Abeg mods, take this topic to the frontpage, our youth need to see what we're discussing here

GloriousGbola:
its a little more complicated than that

in nigeria to be respected as a professional, esp if you are supervising these guys you HAVE to demonstrate some form of competence

because a large number of systems have been bastardized,book learning, which assumes you are in a working system, will not cut it

a system is suppose to be wired using color coded cables , but most technicians will just run the same colour of wire, because they dont know better , or because they are cutting cost. they run a size of wire because that is what they have seen others do, but they dont know the reason behind it.

if you cannot troubleshoot their crap, you will be referred to as an english speaking person. and you need
some hands on knowledge or they will run rings around you getting your low quality stuff that does not work

classic example -0 the humble socket outlet. this is rated 13amps by design and should be able to carry two irons or kettles. but teh markey is full of cheapo low quality versions that are good for tv, or fridge, but the moment you connect a kettle to them, they burn. if you dont know the reason, you will wind up looking like a mumu and accepting their solution , which is to use an ac socket outlet for kettle, - when the answer is to insist on the original confirmed socket outlet.

a large number of problems come form people bypassing standards or not even understanding them. but if you cant recognize the standards that have been bypassed, you will be held to ransom

also some items that you can just order on amazon are not available in nigeria, so you have to do jerry rigged solutions

This is true. I've experienced it working on site in Nigeria.

However, foreigners saw the gap for skilled tradesmen companies and stepped in.

A lot of Lebanese and Chinese guys running construction in Nigeria are actually tradesmen (why you hear Nigerians complaining that their Asian bosses don't even have degrees). The Civil Engineering and Architecture companies do their designs and calculations and the clients hand it over to these guys.

There was even a British guy doing construction work in Abuja for all your politicians. He was finishing all their interiors (he used to be very vocal on X).

There's a market for skilled tradesmen in Nigeria. Instead of asking Engineers to fill in the gap, let's go get those jobs back from the foreigners who have taken over

When my uncles came to visit here, they went to inspect their friend's house construction. One uncle took a spirit level and started showing the Nigerian artisans how their work wasn't straight and they were all looking at him. That lack of excellence made him want to open a Technical school here (he has over 40 years of construction experience).

The same thing happens in other industries: I see Indians getting hired for basic jobs because Nigerians don't have those skills and they're not university degrees (Hospitality, Management, Supermarket management, Supply Chain etc). We Nigerians are leaving jobs on the table chasing bigger dreams that may not materialize.

Dikastan:
One electrical and electronic engineer could not connect ceiling fan. I asked him why,he said he is not a technician,that he is an engineer. I weak.

He's absolutely right.

In the US, an Electrical Engineer has many career opportunities from Oil&Gas to Aeronautics to Power to Medical Sciences and more. It is one of the most versatile Engineering degrees.

What concerns him with a Technical Electrician's work, which is a tradesman certificate and not a university degree?

Mind you, Technical Electricians in the US are decently paid (unlike in Nigeria where it is 3 steps above baseline poverty), you'll be able to afford a home and the basics of life reasonably.

Example: my Bro and SiL paid a handyman $50/hour to come and drill 4 holes in their wall and hang up a Murphy bed (we had assembled almost all of it ourselves, 2 of us are Engineers).

Now, if an Engineer knows a Technician's job, it's because the Engineer is into DIY (which is common in the USA, not in Nigeria).

OP, it's only in Nigeria that a Civil Engineer is correcting bricklaying work. That's a Tradesman's job and he will own a Construction firm and hire bricklayers to do it. And he will make plenty of money (my relatives have their own firms so I know this).

It's because Nigeria is not a real place, with no real jobs, that we expect Engineers to do Tradesman's work.

Somehow Femi Hamzat and Sanwoolu, whose mothers were Lagosians but father's from elsewhere, are more Lagosian than Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour, whose father is Lagosian, Grandfather was a prominent Lagosian but his mother is Igbo and Jimi Agbaje, who was completely Lagosian was also Igbo via association.

I wonder what APC will use to fight Funsho Doherty.

Anyhoo, it's nice to see that the cane that was used on other wives is now being used on the current wife.

IbnB:
Poor girl...this looks like the end of her career because Nigeria's officials will now totally mess her up, since they know that she has tried to leave

They'll be so petty and destructive.

I pray that someone very high up from the Presidency steps in as her unofficial sponsor and makes it clear (quietly) to every Nigerian official that anyone who sabotages her at any international event where she represents Nigeria will come home to find EFCC waiting to search their accounts.

This would be a cheap win for Tinubu if Seyi Tinubu personally steps in for her and every other athlete.

OP,

Your sister isn't safe in the state she's living in. That place is familiar ground to her husband, he knows how to find her.

If she's a nurse, then there's some luck. Let her get her certificate and apply to some jobs in another state, Edo or Delta for example. None of you should tell anyone, not even a friend where she is.

Leave the kids with your parents for now, until she gets back on her feet. There should be no talk of shared custody for the next full year (because a man who paid N5k to bring back his victim will kidnap his children to force her back to his house).

Don't bother asking him for money for upkeep for the kids until that full year has passed. He won't pay or he will demand to take his kids back (not out of love for them, but a need to control your sister).

With all the evidence you've gathered, you'd be better off going to your State Govt (police will only do their job once there's someone with clout or public opinion on the matter). A Commissioner or even the Governor's wife will have enough power to protect your sister. However, they may crazily decide to attempt to reconcile them (if the man is convincing enough).

Whatever is wrong with that man, your sister's love and his children's love cannot fix it. He has to face his demons himself and only God can help him. Right now, he's losing that battle so let your sister and the kids be protected.

God1000:
Hmm, isn't this blasphemy and against God's commandment that says You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain

This man keeps proving me right everyday, I don't know why people even call me bad names for saying the truth about him

I really wish I was still on X, because when this man was first elected and I said he was closer to the Antichrist than the saviour of the USA, American and Nigerian evangelicals were screaming abuse at anyone.

They've been reaaaalll quiet since he started this tenure.

dettolgel:
I agree that the basic standards we learn at home form the foundation on which our individual character is built. But when it comes to parenting, I think it is far more nuanced than we often assume. For example, among the traits you listed, very strict parents are actually the most likely to raise children who become two‑faced.

Some parents are so strict that their children cannot express themselves honestly. Instead, they pretend in front of their parents and then behave completely differently once they are out of sight. I know a pastor’s son whose father is a very strict man and genuinely tries to be decent. Yet here in the West, the son is known for heavy drug use. But whenever he visits Nigeria, he packages himself to fit his father’s expectations perfectly.

I grew up in a household where my dad was extremely strict. He would not tolerate anything outside the rules he set. My mom, on the other hand, was also strict, but she was reasonable. She allowed us to explain our thought process and the reasoning behind our actions. After listening carefully, she would help us understand what we did wrong and remind us of the consequences. She would then report everything to my dad when he returned home. Because of my dad’s strictness, he often jumped to conclusions and punished us even when we were not at fault.

In that kind of environment, there were really only two possible outcomes: either give him what he wanted to see and then do what we wanted behind his back, or take our grievances to our mom. Fortunately, we had the latter. And there were times when we thought he was wrong, but my mom helped us see that he was right—and other times when she helped him see that we were right.

Because she was open (never acted like a friend and I have never considered her a friend) and trusting, I grew up thinking more about how my actions would disappoint her than about my father’s cane. I have never made decisions out of fear of punishment. Instead, my mother’s trust and faith in me have always guided my choices and actions in life.

Because of this comment, I just randomly shouted at my kids "Wo, I'm not your friend o! "

Now they're confused, because they weren't misbehaving

I agree with some points. I think some of the strict parents of the past were borderline abusive (I know Pastors' kids who have said their parents were awful because that kind of position on society tends to attract megalomaniacs).

But I also feel my generation has gotten it wrong, in that we are trying to make up for the strictness of the previous generation and have gone too far in the opposite direction and are lax parents. We're too busy trying to "protect and love" our little darlings, that we've spoilt them.

GloriousGbola:
ironically this is what i have told my eldest son more than once and sometimes the little prick quotes it back at me

I saw this prayer recently:

May we not leave battles for our kids to fight.

I'm trying to do this for my children: please learn from my mistakes and from your father's mistakes.

I'm constantly worried if we've screwed them up because of our foolishness

GloriousGbola:
Well... This is why I was speaking on variance

I knew a family where the dad had two wives and like four or five of the kids went to unilorin. Doctors and lawyers. The girls read law, the boys medicine

One sister was a party club girl, the other was a 100% hijabite

Three brothers one became an alfa with jumping trouser, one was a regular guy, and one was an undercover thug / serial rap ist forming alfa

I had a pastor medical roommate in 100l. Dudes brother was in engineering 500l and was confam bad boy. Even had a girl he jilted try to set him up for rape.

Even me in my family I am practically agnostic today, but my sis and bro and very religious.

I understand that children do as you do not as you say and can subconsciously pick your examples

Which may be why some supposedly monogamous guys who grew up in polygamist homes 'out of the blue' married second wives. Also why girls who grew up in polygamist homes can be very very very paranoid and suspicious. (they saw their mothers get blindsided)

When you talk to foreigners about dating Nigerian women, you'll be ashamed. They'll be quoting Bible passages, posting loving families and milking these men dry. The men will be so confused, because they aren't perfect themselves but they're not coming from a materialistic society.

Same with Nigerian men when you come to Nigeria to work with them as a foreigner: you'll be dazed at the sheer amount of fraud, adultery and deceit. Someone said during her Ghana posting in the military, the Ghanaian officers were so uncomfortable with the Nigerian ones, because how can you be bringing side chics to the office to meet Oga and then carry all of them the next day to have lunch with your wife and kids, shamelessly?

But everyone in these situations all came from "good homes".

Na wetin your papa and mama teach you, you dey practice.

My eldest sister used to harp on us: do not repeat the mistakes of our parents.

I kind of have to disagree with this statement:

Sometimes you can be good parents, yet have bad kids who don't listen to you

I actually think it's rare in real life. And if it happens, then you're looking at Serial killer or mass murderer or someone who was born with a different wired brain.

Everyone I know has so far, followed the path that their parents set out for them. They are products of their upbringing to the core, down to their mistakes. Myself included.

I've never seen truly good parents bring out a truly bad child.

I have, however, seen parents who think they're good, bring out kids who are "na wa".

I'm seeing someone who was a very "good" child misbehave as a man in his 30s. His parents will swear they were good parents but I know for a fact he was spoiled and grew up with a prideful, cruel father and a deceitful mother (they're pillars of society publicly). Now everyone is shocked at his actions.

Almost every "runz" babe I know, their parents profile pic is wearing CWO/CMO uniform beaming with pride at the camera. Yes, they absolutely think they're excellent parents. But your child won't have a passion for selfishness, covetiousness and greed if they didn't learn it from home.

Almost everyone I know working in govt inflating contracts, their parents' churches celebrated them as "pillars of society"

Even us as parents, we're very lax but we all think we're "good" parents. Myself included.

Nigeria is truly not a country of morals. We're a country of eye-service. We need to stop acting shocked that the next generation is tired of pretending and is showing it openly.

So the woman who helped him destroy his first marriage ended up hurting his son and damaging his second marriage.

The wages of sexual immorality ehhh. Always comes with compounding interest.

I'm sure he would have been warned during his Pastoral days to avoid that married woman, he would have laughed it off or said confidently that he knew what he was doing. Now see

The first thing the devil always makes you believe is that you're in charge of whatever sinful situation you've just walked into.

laivwire:
Of course, I did that immediately.

Please how do I go about this? Thanks

GloriousGbola:
i have already shared your comment on cardiac arrest to my son

_{whether he will listen is another story entirely}

Please take him for a full check annually or 6 monthly if he plays even semi-professionally.

This issue is not rare amongst footballers.

nairalanda1:
They are now saying it is 'food poisoning'

Even then, the symptoms don't match. Food poisoning can cause diarrhea, vomitting and so forth for several hours.

I sincerely hate, HATE (and I rarely use that word) when Nigerians Schools start covering up with lies.

Chrisland did it when their student was electrocuted and died: they immediately said she came sick from home. Autopsy and eyewitness reports proved the truth and the school threw one of their staff and the vendor who was using the power lines in that area, under the bus.

I will never recommend Chrisland to any parent.

Food poisoning doesn't kill this fast or cause shortness of breath. Not unless he ingested an actual poison.

This is supposed to be a school based on religious morals: at least put out a statement commiserating with the parents and consoling the students and say "we are investigating, will conduct an autopsy and until further notice, no other Information will be shared. Kindly desist from further hurting his grieving family with speculation".

Do photo Op of Oyedepo meeting with his parents, shut down the gist. In some days it will pass and you can then deal with several people who should have made sure the clinic has all they need and there was a medical team on standby.

If the family wish to sue for negligence, go to court. Louisville Secondary school was sued for wrongful death, they're just settling the matter 10 years later.

GloriousGbola:
could it be a sports radio commentator by any chance?

No

He was a teenager.

nairalanda1:
Yes, that's what has been on my mind too for the last few minutes...people like the late Sam Okwaraji of blessed memory, Augie of Berger FC of blessed memory, Marc Foe of blessed memory and Fabrice Muamba (who survived not just because of good CPR protocol but because there was a doctor who happened to be there who had him rushed to a specialist hospital, where they used some pretty cutting edge experimental stuff), and Ericksen

That;s a strong possiblilty, and one that has to be looked into, hence autopsy. There might have been a genetic issue with the heart that manifests under strenous exercise. (Foe died from a cardiomyopathy).

That's why in many european leagues, when joining a club , you must have an echo and stress ecg done. Too many deaths over the years.

(Football is still good for cardiovascular heath in most people.).

Football is great but if your father or Uncle died of a Cardiac Arrest and you had childhood asthma, don't do any sport that will push your heart too much.

Most people don't realize how important medical history is.

Some secondary schools are now demanding full medical checkup (x-ray, urine analysis etc) to avoid stories that touch.

I feel and pray for this young man's family. When we were in this situation, it was horrific. We still grieve, years later.

I don't know why Nigerian schools can't do medical teams for sports days. That should be a given by now, with all the annual stories of one calamity after another.

A person complains of shortness of breathe whilst playing a sport, tell them to immediately sit down, have a Dr check his pulse and listen to his chest. No wasting of time. Give him some space and air whilst those checks are done. Head to a clinic once the checks are done, even if good or bad.

We also need to start teaching Emergency Medicine to everyone.

nairalanda1:
Wiritng my response, will post in a minute

Now I am going to assess this case from two ways

1, We don't know the medical history of the students
2, We also don't know if the story told is the case

Also
1. I am not a fan of Oyedepo, I even consider that he probably worships mammon more than jesus
2. I am also not ruling out negligence as well...but not every death is negligence




Well

1. If he stopped breathing, there is no way oxygen or nebulizer would have worked.
2. If he was asthmatic, the doctor won't have said, even if na incompetent doctor, that he just needs air, at least a shot of hydrocort is a good place to start.

I'm thinking he was brought in dead, pronounced dead, then the prayers started.

Again, na my opinion, and I am waiting for a full investigation

Other cases



Mein gott, this case is simple. The lighting killed him. Simple. Even if they rushed him to hospital, he would have been pronounced dead.

FFS, who thought of including this case here? 1 bolt of lighting is 100million to 1billion volts. (If he survives, it would be miraculous). Yes, people surive lighting bolts, but this probably was a case of a lethal strike.

Nothing could be done here...move on



A student hit his head in the pool....that's a major traumatic head injury plus neck injury.

Yes, they got his heart beating again.

But he had a head injury, possible damage to his brainstem, so probably brought in brain dead.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT OXYGEN OR DEFIBRILLATOR WOULD HAVE (censored) DONE. (Apologies, but I am getting pissed. Really pissed).

At best the guy was probably brain dead. Im guessing the doctors knew that when he was brought in. And they knew that at best the guy would end up in an ICU, brain dead. not responsive, and even if he survived, he would be severely disabled for life. I'm not talking about using a wheelchair.

Plus defibirllators, sports fans, are not for bringing back patients to life, they are for restoring the heart to its regular rhythym. And if the rhythm is not shockable...there is nothing a defibillatior can do.

MODIFIED

Went on twitter, and the case as usual has drawn the usual reactions

Also, on case no 3...someone on twitter said that green stuff was coming out of his ears and nose.

That's cerebrospinal fliud, which if it is coming out of the mouth and ears indicates severe head injury. At best, even if they got him to a Tertiary center, his chances were very low

Also, his breahting was not good.

That confirms that he probably was brain dead when brought in. Hence the prayers.

Modified

In case 2 and 3 and even 1 we keep on hearing that 'if the hospital had defibrillator he would have lived'. Well, the fact is, a defibrillator is not something that brings dead to life (thanks to the movies for making that a truism)..and a defibrillator won't work in a case like case no 3 where the student was brought in brain dead.

Just to add to this:

Football is a heavily Cardiovascular sport.

A lot of young players actually collapse like this annually. Not just in Nigeria too, my friend is a Cardiovascular Surgeon and he can you enough stories about footballers. They are very well monitored medically, even from Academy levels.

The reason you don't hear so much about this is because there are usually equipment available to revive them on the field (yes, a Defibrillator is one of them and the patient must be rushed to a Emergency Trauma Centre ASAP even after his heart has been shocked back into a normal rthymn).

So less Oxygen was needed until his heart was pumping normally. Then you give Oxygen to supplement his breathing whilst monitoring his pulse.

There should have been a fully-equipped medical team on the field.

It's why I don't let my kids play football and I don't encourage school sports, I know our family medical history and the fact that most sporting events have no medical team on standby, so not taking chance.

Like I told someone a month ago, the safest place to hold a Sporting event is at a Sports Stadium and ask to pay for their in-house medical team and inspect all their equipment. Schools should not be hosting sporting events in Nigeria until they get it right.

I've lost a friend this way

Gerrard59:
The question should then be why do we copy ill behaviours from rotten groups instead of copying a group like the Chinese?

The parents are to be blamed. They're not the only immigrant group with children in London.

Like someone else said, firstly it's a class thing and then a cultural issue. Asian kids commit crimes too but at much lower rates and the ones who immigrate to Wester countries tend to have a lot of sense. They have very strong international communities, unlike African immigrants.

Asians also have a stronger sense of shame and stronger fear of losing face.

Nigerian British kids cosplaying American thug life, they started from Brixton and Peckham and now it has spread and London has become like New York from the '90s.

This is why most of them are sending their kids back home to Nigeria for secondary school now.

They left Nigeria for a better life and opportunities for their kids and now they're heading back in terror for their kids' safety.

Worse, some of the kids are the actual gang members and bringing that behaviour here to upper middle class secondary schools.

brain54:
Vote for youths (young leaders) see the result...


I'm even surprised Desmond got a second and even 3rd tenure?

People don't vote in those elections, if they run it the same day as Presidential he would have lost since.

Surulere is somewhat enjoying under Gbajiamila (it's relatively clean, no okadas and safer than Lekki. Almost everywhere is safer than Lekki expressway 😑). Desmond Elliot's tenures have really been poor and everyone disliked him when he opened one shanty and called it "public toilet" years ago.

APC should field someone or let PDP, ADC or LP field one correct person and kick him out