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Christianity EtcRe: Kenneth Copeland Calls Forth 'Supernatural Heatwave' To Kill Coronavirus In NYC by onlyfacts: 11:13pm On Apr 11, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
Have you ever seen the COVID-19 under a microscope, Mr. Know all? undecided
Since you refused to have sense this is it.

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SARS-CoV-2_scanning_electron_microscope_image.jpg

Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 11:06pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
He said
"What are killing the people?"
Where those 5G are turned on, more people are dying"
what he said is true, check the countries with highest death rate
did he say "5G is killing them"? No
it's just like saying more people are dying where the temperature is low
would u now say it's d low temperature dat is killing them?
I know you are smart and can comprehend well. Tell me what joy do you derive twisting the words of your pastor to suit his new stancehuh

Lets call a spade a spade. He said it in his opening statements. He said two things are responsible for the deaths. 1. Where the 5G are tested or turned on many people have died. That was a complete statement. No addition or subtraction was made on that by him. and 2. He said also that deaths are due to people who have the flu being counted with people that have COVID-19. As such people with the flu won't get treatment and die.

So why are you lyinghuh

How will I take you serious now!
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 11:00pm On Apr 11, 2020
Buliwyf:
Guy you dey try o. Anybody still supporting that bleaching Jerrycoil pastor now does not have the ability to think for himself. You will be wasting your time with such people. Just post the videos so we can mock them jare. Fake pastors with fake miracles. Lol
Honestly mocking them is the easy route grin, I want to instead enlighten them.

Many don't know all the facts and if they know them maybe some will see things differently.
Christianity EtcRe: Kenneth Copeland Calls Forth 'Supernatural Heatwave' To Kill Coronavirus In NYC by onlyfacts: 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2020
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=88230274][/quote]You can't see a virus with your naked eyes but you can see it under a microscope, so don't be silly or ignorant!
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 10:25pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
point of correction
he didn't say 5G is causing death
But he maintained there are adverse effects of 5G according to researchers
And don't discredit wat someone else has said unless u do ur due independent research and come out with an opposing view.
He did. That was my original post. So you didn't read it ?? See yourself now.

Watch him say it from his instagram handle.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-sax5FAjj8/?igshid=3e1j4b5k58j8
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 10:18pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
For d 5G issues
he showed many videos from foreign doctors and news etc to prove his point. And if u Search well u will see adverts of 5G digital implantation where ur device will be in ur skin. I saw dat one on BBC
he is not just stating facts without sources. if u watch d videos u will see wat am saying
Facts in case you don't know is 5G doesn't cause deaths, like your pastor claimed! For every conspiracy scientists your pastor brings as proof for his theory, they are a million more scientist saying the opposite.
5G is non-ionizing radio waves, it's harmless at it's frequency of 25 GHz to 72 GHz. Frequencies as high as 300GHz are still harmless and 5G doesn't pass 75 GHz.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 10:07pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
Good I don't agree with him that d lockdown is all about the church. But I won't say it's a lie either because I don't know the source of his information. So u are correct in wat u just said

sorry I could have told u earlier that d first video is just praise and worship
That's the major problem here. Look man of God or no man of God, if they must comment on global issues affecting the world they either state facts with sources we can all verify( they should state the exact source) or say it's a revelation or prophecy and hope it comes to pass this time around.

For you guys that attends his church his word is FINAL whether we show you his failing or not.
Please let him try and show you guys his members his research sources, it will help stop arguments.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 9:53pm On Apr 11, 2020
Maestro21:
Lies.
Only your beloved pastor said a lie here. See the video proof tongue
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 9:52pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
I only said 12 videos
skip d first one because it's just praise and worship

Moreover each of d video is not less dan 300mb

[b]so if u want to comprehensively criticize wat he said, u will have to invest some data to do [/b]it
Guy end this foolishness now before I stop watching the 12 videos I have started.

You should just drag me to your church now undecided

First video, unrelated to 5G. I wasted data but here is what I learnt. Pastor Chris here again claims that the goal of the pandemic by government is to "prevent people from going to church".

That may seem logical on the surface but looking at it critically you see it doesn't only affect the church, it affects the whole word and society.

The oil industries are affected globally, oil demand is on the low.
The air line industries are affected globally, most flights and destinations have been canceled.
The transportation sectors globally are suffering due to lack of human and goods movement.
Global commerce is suffering, stock exchange and foreign reserves depleted.
People have lots jobs, including the rich and powerful.


But pastor Chris choose to make this pandemic only about the church, like they are the most affected.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 9:31pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
count d first 13 videos
d first video is still a live video

Almost all d videos have his repititions of his stance on 5G
u will understand better Wen u listen to all

I watch d live videos and I download from dat page I sent u
u will see d communion video u are talking of there
Better don't say any crap like I should watch all 100 plus video or more before I understand what he is saying.
I'm not a fool okay! I comprehend perfectly. I'll watch the 12 as stated and drop my findings.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 9:22pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
all d videos are here
https://m.facebook.com/PastorChrisLive/video_grid/?ref=page_internal
Guy how far now, why you hate me like thisgrin

That link contains more than 100 videos, when will I finish watching them all? How will I even know those that relate to the topic?

Guy copy and post here the ones related to the topic. I don't have unlimited data. You said its 12 videos, I was expecting to see 12 videos there and not more than a 100, fear God o
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 8:54pm On Apr 11, 2020
zionmde:
Oga sharrap and stop saying wat u don't know

The vaccines he is speaking against is d one that will carry a specific digital ID dat is unique to everyone in d world. He maintains d fact that Covid19 patients should be given vaccines that they need and not just left to die

He specifically mentioned that the mark of d beast is only possible Wen rapture must have taken place.

I have all d 12 videos
so if u can't sit down and understand wat he is saying den sharrap
I understand you are pained sir grin, but I'm here to call a spade a spade!

Please post all your video links here. I will take my time and watch all and I will still post my findings here.

I'll copy you okay smiley now drop all the links
Christianity EtcRe: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 8:15pm On Apr 11, 2020
I found this also on YouTube. Pastor Chris was praying, (a healer that performs miracles as he claims) that's a VACCINE for COVID-19 should be quickly discovered by scientists. The same vaccine he later claimed is the ID of the Antichrist that's brings the 666!

He says this and says that. All with one mouth. Watch him say it here at exactly the 3 minute into the 4 minutes prayer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_JYHcK5BI

Cc: spartan117
Christianity EtcDid Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op):
Pastor Chris confirms that the reasons people are dying in this pandemic is because "where those 5G signals are being turned on, are being put on people died". Here he categorically says 5G is responsible for the deaths in this pandemic. Note: he also changes what he says at intervals. He has also said that the NWO brought Covid-19 which are killing the people, the emphasis though is that he later said 5G is killing the people.

He mentions that patients suffering the flu are being mistaken as Covid-19 patients, he believes Covid-19 patients are few and the flu another major cause of death in this pandemic. I wonder if that logic of pastor Chris is global or limited to a specific place alone.

Cc: spartan117


https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-sax5FAjj8/?igshid=3e1j4b5k58j8
Christianity EtcRe: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by onlyfacts: 6:54pm On Apr 11, 2020
generationz:
See leave these people o. They can't even put together logical arguments. The video I posted clearly goes against whatever he says the pastor claims covid is.

Pastor Chris is a liar.
grin grin they honestly make me laugh. They are honestly zombies now. They are all being mindlessly controlled, the same thing they fear the most grin.

Watch as he comes back and say I should do my researchhuh

Please I would love to read their research grin, burnt research!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by onlyfacts:
spartan117:
First of all he is not my pastor.

Secondly this is not the original video in which he first brought this to light therefore I'm only seeing this video now.

However that changes nothing what he said in the two videos are the same only that he specifically mentioned the Nigerian government in this one. Thanks for sharing by the way.

Like I said earlier every claim he made in the 3hrs video was backed by not only scriptural references but scientifict facts as well and the man of God challenged anyone who doesn't belief to do their own research and disproof with solid facts.

So far neither you nor any other critic have done so, all you have done is call him a conspiracy theorist and insult him.

It's unwise to dismiss facts as untrue without conducting proper research. In your case not only have you dismissed the facts, you have also stubbornly refused to even examine them.

I will still refer you back to the sermon where he talked about it so you would have the full picture and won't form opinions in ignorance. If you need the link all you have to do is ask.
From the video posted by generationz (God bless you whoever you are) these are the high lighted points below.

You speak of the facts, here are the facts!!!

1. Myth from Pastor Chris: 5G is the cause of deaths in Wuhan China and not the coronavirus!

Fact: 5G is the fifth generation of wireless communications technologies, frequencies are above 24 GHz, reaching up to 72 GHz. The reach is short, so more cells are required. Millimeter waves have DIFFICULTY traversing many WALLS and WINDOWS, so indoor coverage is limited. All the 5G wireless devices in a cell communicate by radio waves ( non-ionizing "radio waves" ). Since at least the 1990s, scientists have researched whether the now-ubiquitous radiation (from radio waves) associated with mobile phone antennas or cell phone towers is affecting human health. In response, the World Health Organization established the International EMF Project in 1996 to assess the scientific evidence of possible health effects of EMF in the frequency range from 0 to 300 GHz (5G operates between 24GHz-72GHz). They have stated that EXTENSIVE RESEARCH has been conducted into possible health effects of exposure to many parts of the frequency spectrum, all reviews conducted so far have indicated that as long as exposures are below the limits recommended in the ICNIRP (1998) EMF guidelines, which cover the full frequency range from 0–300 GHz, such exposures do not produce any known adverse health effect!!!

Fact: whistle-blower doctor Li Wenliang who died on the front line in Wuhan established the cause of death in Wuhan was from a novel Coronavirus, now COVID-19 based on virology study of infected patients!!!



2. Myth from pastor Chris: Staying indoors( that's is quarantine) and social distancing are all scam!


Fact: Limiting face-to-face contact with others is the best way to reduce the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Social distancing also called physical distancing is a way of limiting face-to-face contact. To practice social or physical distancing:

Stay at least 6 feet (2 meters) from other people

Do not gather in groups

Stay out of crowded places and avoid mass gatherings

Quarantine is used to keep someone who might have been exposed to COVID-19 away from others.
Isolation is used to separate sick people from healthy people. 

All this guidelines works, a disregard for them as suggested by pastor Chris is without scientific evidence!!!


3. Myth from pastor Chris: He even doubts anyone has the COVID-19 in Nigeria, saying "where are the sick people with the flu"?


Fact: NCDC (Nigeria Centre for Disease Control) are responsible for the stats we currently have for COVID-19, which is at present stands at INFECTED 305, RECOVERED 58, and DEATHS 7. pastor Chris can reach out to the FG to verify these facts, speak with LASG or go to the Disease and Infection's Center at Yaba to verify for himself these facts!!!


Cc zionmde
Christianity EtcRe: If You Know Anybody Ever Cured By Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Get In Here by onlyfacts: 8:12am On Apr 09, 2020
Ochedi:
No! Yours is a bundle of contradiction. You still won't believe. Your attitude and language says it all. You'll only believe when it happens to you and I pray it does. You're not searching for truth but attention.

I hope you enjoy it while it lasts.

Cheers!
Better wake up and smell the coffee, yours will be a rude awakening I know.

You should even be the one looking for proof everywhere.

Well as your faith crumbles, know you trusted the wrong kinds of Chris and Co. They bible called them false prophets.

Search out for those who are not next time.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Man Of God In Nigeria? Why are they afraid of Covid 19? by onlyfacts: 9:03pm On Apr 07, 2020
hupernikao:
Read Mark 16:15-17 again. You were mentioned in that verse. That is your premise for healing. So you can't claim you weren't given.

Secondly, if you say, you are disappointed in your pastors response, did you give him your own explanation via the scriptures or just discussing experience based on what he has preached before.

Thirdly, it is obvious many here aren't taught well on the healing ministry or operations. Many questions here even your answers shows there was no proper teaching on the healing ministry.

Most times it's the fault of both the pastor and the members. Where many fail is not knowing that miracles, sign and wonders will only get members excited for a while. But teaching, what you teach them, is what will stay with them and available in times of trouble.

But when you are not well taught or deceived you may end up turning against the vessel used even to heal you.
This isn't about me. I told you already I received no such gift or ever thought I could heal anyone.

Like I said previously what happened in now atheist Europe and America may soon happen in Africa.

There is a clear distinction everywhere between children of God and man of God.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Know Anybody Ever Cured By Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Get In Here by onlyfacts: 8:57pm On Apr 07, 2020
Ochedi:
You're confused I think.[b] If you already strongly believe his miracles are fake why asking for evidence? [/b]To gain attention or what?

Biko get busy and be productive.
Just listen to yourself please. So if I believe his miracles are true, what further evidence do I still need?

Evidence is only for those that doubt or don't believe to prove them wrong!
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Man Of God In Nigeria? Why are they afraid of Covid 19? by onlyfacts: 12:01am On Apr 07, 2020
hupernikao:
Jesus is your lord not your Pastor. Your Pastor is to help you discover more and guide you in God's way but Christ is your Light. Christ gave his word to us all, hence i am sure in your vicinity, you can prove his word as the OP said. What OP raised is not a Pastor thing but for all believers. Phillip went to Samaria by himself, he wasnt sent there. He exercise Christ authority there, he didnt call the Apostle to come and lead by example. He preached and wrought miracles. He was a common believer as at that period.

COVID will come and go, miracles and healing will still yet abound by the hands of Christians all over the world. There is no need calling out names or people. we should all do our own part. I am sure you have a church/pastor if you are a Christian, but have you spoken to him on this?
Yes I have and I'm disappointed in his response. All of a sudden he doesn't believe in healing but taking precautionary measures. Someone that before now believes he can heal. And this the same everywhere.

As for me God never gave me the ability to heal, I have the gift of explaining the word. That has been my own. Those that claim have the anointing to heal, I left it to them to heal. Now they should stand up to the challenge.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Man Of God In Nigeria? Why are they afraid of Covid 19? by onlyfacts: 10:18pm On Apr 06, 2020
bennyrazz:
This is a big challenge of their faith and the faith we have in them as God's Ambassadors on earth. So if God's Ambassador on earth cannot do anything, it only points us to one bitter truth "they are not God's Ambassadors or they were formerly God's Ambassadors but they have lost their roles in the plan of God" and they are still dwelling on past glory
Sad conclusion but true! No truer words were ever said bro
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Man Of God In Nigeria? Why are they afraid of Covid 19? by onlyfacts: 10:04pm On Apr 06, 2020
bennyrazz:
bro, loud it, loud it. A lot of Pastors will lose their credibility and i wouldnt want to see that. It will have negative impact on the church
It's the simple, logical and plain truth bro. If they fail Christians who have faith in God and them as his anointed men because they are all scared of COVID-19, them their credibility is almost totally gone!

They should JUST preach the word instead and leave healing for the hospitals...
Christianity EtcRe: COVID-19: When Science Needs An Extra Time, Faith Will Holds Sway by onlyfacts: 9:44pm On Apr 06, 2020
hupernikao:
For a starter: The contributions of all who are in forefront in fighting COVID-19 for humanity are well praised and appreciated. Without you all, humanity would have found itself in a new dawn hopelessness and destruction. Likewise, for all scientific inventions that have been made available to support humanity this period.

COVID-19 has truly set a lot in motion across nations from economic breakdown, local segregation, questioning of belief system, continuous scientific research, to application of common sense and a search for hope. Great men are falling, great nations are gasping for survival. Many would never have believed such a day will come and many would never have hoped for such.

This event has led many to call on who or what they believed, rather not believed in. Others likewise have called on God’s name: some seek him out of fear, some out of mockery, some in ignorance and others holding to faith in His words.

The hope of many nations has aforetime rested on the ever-tested scientific discoveries and solutions but currently the best of human’s knowledge and survival are fastened on symptomized trials of both common sense and existing drugs pending another breakthrough of sustainable cure.

But as the search for cure continue, I pondered, how long could humanity truly have, if we assume COVID was an attempt to eradicate all lives on earth. Or better still, will science have had another day/month in this fight?

I am never an advocate of comparing science with God or the scriptures, as I believe they are never in struggle of supremacy nor disproving each other. Science has its place: the natural and most of its discoveries within this limit are neither against humanity nor faith in God. There may be some (believers) who are driven by ignorance and lack of proper study and understanding of the scriptures, who have either wrestled with science or read science into the scriptures for “balance”. This is a grave error among some.

Likewise, not sparing those “without God” in this non-existing tussle of Faith and Science, who take every opportunity using science as a tool to smear, by acting as street touts who find joy in setting up 'two fighting' between Faith and Science just to justify their godlessness.
Science successes are well defined and its contribution to humanity are also well documented and appreciated across all endeavor. Yet we must not lose focus on its gradual growth in its current infancy until it ascends to the full knowledge of the “hows” and “whys” of this world.

Like I always say, Science is still in its embryo of knowledge, when it comes to maturity it will know Faith and God with undeniable facts. Hence the non-existing contradiction of Faith and Science are only peddled by some sects from both divides.

For example:

One with Faith once said



And I wondered what God is that, a creator who has to prove his omnipotent to his creatures? One who wrestle power with his creature to prove “Goddish”? Or one who finds joy in killing the disloyal, the “enemies” but prevents his creatures from doing same?

Pray tell…

…what will such God gain in crashing a plane just to say something to a nation or the world?
…Or in killing hundreds of loved ones with COVID-19 just to get attention.

It is sad that we are always in a relax mode without proper reasoning when issue like these happens to people afar from us. Let me ask, how will you take such lesson if such God has to get your attention by gruesomely murdering your most loved person on earth.

When all you see from the scriptures is a God with unstable character, who can both love and hate at the same time, and finds pleasure in killing lessons, then you have been led astray and reading your selfish desires and hatred for the unbelieving or mockers of God into the scriptures. We are not as taught from the scriptures.

Have you not read:



That is, man’s wrath can neither works the patience of God nor His righteousness. Human perception, satisfaction or dissatisfaction cannot change who God is.

The scriptures truth concluded:



Hence, until we start seeing God in this singular character of light, love and life, we will never be able to comprehend his word.

In this same breath, one of the father figures of Atheism (Stephen Hawking) once said:



Not surprising, that such statement comes from a man who can’t in all fairness see beyond the prism of experimental truth and constantly denied the experiential truth that have always stared at all humanities across the ages.

I pray tell...

…Tell a man gasping for breath, with pains which the best of our labs couldn't explain nor subside but whose only thought is filled with no hope of scientific solutions but unexplained interventions. Where does his hope lies, in dying or peradventure in finding life again?

…Tell that to a man, who just found out that all his three children are positive to covid-19 and with objective evidence of few more days to death. His instinct will set his hope where? In their death? Or their life? Life from where, from who?

…Or to a weaponless man caught in crossfire of the approaching enemy infantry.

It is common knowledge that a passive observer doesn't know the true experience of a loss or of having a privilege to a new life after all hope is gone. Hence, he can't see beyond the tool of science or as the moderate ones will say: it's by chance. But such chance to life is what several across the world pray and seek today in the face of this plague and in trusting God, life will prevail.

Yes, life on earth will prevail to the end that all things lost will be restored, more lives preserved, and nations comforted. COVID-19 will be defeated and science will take a greater leap forward in its experimentation.

In conclusion, Science and Faith have always been with mankind and will continue to, as such science is how man know and relate to his physical environments. The strength of science is in its slow but steady learning curve via experimentation and observations, but faith hold sway till science hope is completed at every instant of uncertainties.

Therefore, it is obvious today in the face of this novel plague, that humanity would have survived its early earth life by his God-given instinct that provide immediate survival and not by his experimentation. Faith and hope expressed in man’s instinct in the face of the unknown make us survive the unknown and the unprepared as we see in COVID today, while experiment, the foundation of science, prepares us ahead for the known danger or known unknown over an extra time.

Hence, in this fight with COVID-19, Science as usual will surely have its hopeful approval of extra time. But not just an extra time, but a return leg after gaining enough experience in this cause. And will surely win.
But before then, one thing holds the nations of the world and the preservation of humanity as it has always been over the ages even before the first human experimental tool was invented.

...humanity instinct and response to the saving power of God.
If you were a pastor you will make more sense that most pastors today, like pastor E.A. ADEBOYE that said God told him COVID-19 is a punishment from him and he wants to show his strength to the world and people should all repeat.

And the likes of them but something stand amiss, and that's the lack of miracles for COVID-19.

TRULY not all Christians care for miracles from pastors but hardly any church program goes by without miracles being a prominent feature of the advertise service hence the believe that pastors are in the healing business.

Now Christians need this healing to protect them, if only them alone from this pandemic yet we get hand sanitizers, face mask and gloves?

When we complained of impotence, headache, fever amongst others they didn't give us mask and the others, why change now?

They shouldn't mock God!
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Man Of God In Nigeria? Why are they afraid of Covid 19? by onlyfacts: 9:21pm On Apr 06, 2020
hupernikao:
Kindly stay on track. Discussion here is not tithes and offerings.

Secondly, who are the "we" in the . It is good to speak from your point only.

To your response. It is obvious why the Apostles were at forefront in the early church. They were the ones Jesus gave direct instructions to. Today those instructions are written (NT) and we (Christians) all have access to it. Hence, you can read yourself and know and you know that instruction is also for you. So, if you feel your Pastor is doing it well, why cant you act since it seems you may know more than him. You have this same access to the miraculous. What have you done with it.

I am sure you would have questioned the Holyghost when Joseph was instructed to take baby Jesus to Egypt to avoid Herod's killing. You would have asked: Man of God "Joseph" or "baby of God" Jesus, why are you running away, arent you of God with power, stay and kill Herod. SHOW US PROVE, as you asked.

Bro, see, the wisdom of God, even if you are quarantined on top of Burj Khalifa (the tallest building in the world) and enabled with Galileo telescope to view, you wont still find it.

Hence, what a serious Christian should be doing in this period, is to pray for his Pastor, for God's wisdom, pray for the church, and its local church, for the government and health workers for preservation of life and if there is need for clarity, ask in all humility and honor not to be accusing his own BODY.
As much as you may try to redirect the attention from pastors to individual readers of the Bible or Christians, just know one thing, Europe and America where prominent continents for Christianity in the past but they lost their relevance. Atheism is the dominant belief there now and it started like this.

Global pandemics of black death in the Middle Ages, amongst others in 1820,1920 etc came and left and exposed the church.

To whom great power is given, great works is expected. To whom great responsibility is given, great accomplishment and accountability is expected. Now judge for yourself who has greater responsibility in healing here, pastors or individual members? Jesus our leader will never send his disciples to do anything he himself will not do or has not done. He is a leader and led by example. Key word is lead by example!

Just note come end of this pandemic pastors will lose more credibility, is that what you desire?
Christianity EtcRe: VIDEO: TB Joshua Says COVID-19 Comes From 'error In Advanced Technology' by onlyfacts: 9:08pm On Apr 06, 2020
tawiatata:
It's evident that you didn't actually watch the full clips of Prophet TB Joshua's words - only the soundbite widely shared on Twitter and Facebook. Go to Emmanuel TV's YouTube channel and watch the full clip there. He made it clear he was referring to the epicentre of the disease - Wuhan, China - which has now returned to normalcy and no new cases have been discovered for nearly two weeks...
Really, was it not in China that a strain of CORONAVIRUS that can stay in the body for 45 days was discovered after the march 27 date... That same Wuhan. Linus
Christianity EtcRe: VIDEO: TB Joshua Says COVID-19 Comes From 'error In Advanced Technology' by onlyfacts: 9:05pm On Apr 06, 2020
tinajohn:
Don't just jump onto the bandwagon of just commenting without actually watching this TB Joshua answers these questions maturely and with great wisdom. His words are carefully chosen. I really admire his humility, commitment to God's work and calmness in the face of life's storms.
Him Mumu never do, everything he must comment upon. World Cup, US politics, Covid-19 amongst others and he keep failing and you still say he answers maturely?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Know Anybody Ever Cured By Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Get In Here by onlyfacts: 8:53pm On Apr 06, 2020
Ochedi:
Lol... Funny! You'll know when you need one. I pray you need a miracle very soon.

Well, let me share the one I was amazed about years before I started following him. No need sharing others cos you'll call it names as usual.

My roommate back in school told me they were watching him in Abuja via TV. The lame aunt on wheelchair was healed and started walking. Note this guy ain't even a churchy person.

About going to the hospital, alot of dynamics come into play. Things I'm not willing to share cos you may not receive them due to preconceived notions. But all things being equal, will the government give such access now? Won't it be complicated? If he gets arrested for going to hospital and breaking the government rules you'll still be happy.

When you need the miracle come to me, no need looking for him. Me that just started self I've seen amazing things happen not to talk of a general. Lol..!

Cheers!
His miracles are staged. There is always a stage that is why you never find him or his kind on the streets healing the sick, forget about going to hospitals he may need government approval for that first.

Minus him we have pastors all over the world yet we are facing a global pandemic, none I repeat none has a solution.

Pastor Chris in healing school, since he can't heal cases of corona came up with a stupid cover up story that, COVID-19 and 5G are linked to the Antichrist and it's not disease.

Please mark this day, just like in the past when pastors blasted, the internet, facebook, some TV, telephone amongst others as the mark of the beast but later in future turn to use them, your pastor too in a few years time will start using the 5G network he commends now. He will even say all his members take the COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available.

All this so called pastors are just fake. TB Joshua will say it will end march 27, he failed!
Adeboye will say it is punishment from God, pastor Chris will say the opposite that's it the Antichrist and it's the same God ministering to all of them.... Yeye scam people. Be deceiving yourself
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are Those Pastors Of Moloch's by onlyfacts: 6:47pm On Apr 04, 2020
Taba21:
Am not Jehovah witness but I choses them.
My message is very clear tomorrow is Sunday or not?
Okay your choice.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are Those Pastors Of Moloch's by onlyfacts: 6:35pm On Apr 04, 2020
Taba21:
If any thing should happen as it stands now in Nigeria where will the false pastors and leaders run to especially in this period of international lockdown?

In the book of Ezekiel 7:19 says they will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be like refuse: their silver and their gold will not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of God;they will not satisfy their souls,Nor fill their stomachs, because it became their stumbling block of iniquity.

The evil occult association of Moloch's suddenly carnally quite.
They should continue flying around their private jets up and down and keep on hypnotized the foolish ones tomorrow is Sunday.

Nigeria is living under siege and there is no government or president for the solution before the lockdown of the Corona virus Nigeria has been collapsed.

Here the saying has been completed in your hearing today according to the book of Jeremiah 23:20 the anger of God will not turn back until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His �, in the latter days you will understand it perfectly.

God bless the people of the kingdom hall, the good people of the Jehovah witness.

Victory to God.
The few Jehovah's witnesses I know don't preach like this.
Your point isn't even clear. Are you condemning government or pastors or praising the people of Jehovah's witness?

Make your post streamlined.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Know Anybody Ever Cured By Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Get In Here by onlyfacts: 6:13pm On Apr 04, 2020
Is there spiritual powers in the world? The answer is a capital YES.

This answer is crystal clear once you dive into the world of magic. Magicians are grand masters of performing the unimaginable. Some are staged, others are not. Go on YouTube or watch popular shows like AMERICAN GOT TALENT or BRITAIN GOT TALENT that feature magicians and see them work wonders on a stage and a scene they haven't worked on before or manipulated in anyway.

So there is supernatural powers. In our local setting jazz, charms and voodoo works. Area boys use them locally to protect themselves from knife wounds, gun fire, broken bottles amongst others. Ritualist also employ the powers of supernatural beings in the pursuit of blood money etc. All this evidence point to the fact that supernatural beings do exist although we live in a scientific world.

Let me clarify one last point before I go, pastors know all these points I listed above and use it to their advantage but truly I tell you that not one single pastor has the power to cure or heal the sick, if they claim they do it is either staged or by the powers of the occult who run the rings of magicians and voodoo priests.

I judge them not but call them what they are as false prophets for God almighty, as God almighty always has always had all the powers in the world BUT the way he operates in carrying out healing and miracles he has changed only 4 times in the entire bible.

A scholar of the Bible understands the time periods of these 4 times but not too sound too mysterious I will tell you the periods. In the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures (popularly known as the new testament) God almighty from genesis down to Malachi gave only LIMITED NUMBER of people on the earth the power to heal. They fall under a class I will call THE PROPHETS and their PERIOD will be called the TIMES OF THE PROPHETS (the first period).

The second period starts a little while longer in the Bible. In the Christian Greek scriptures( or New Testament)starting from Matthew to John, healing was very scarce in this period unlike before. God only gave Jesus and a few men like John the Baptist the ability to heal. I'll call this period the TIME OF JESUS (the second period).

The third period starts from Acts down to Jude.
In this period healing and miracles peaked up unlike the former time in the TIME OF JESUS. The apostles were the principal healers along side a few selected few but every now and them they would heal BUT for a PURPOSE. That purpose is very key in understanding the last but fundamental period in which is our time. I will call the third period the TIME OF THE APOSTLES.

The fourth period kicks off in Revelation ( in full the Revelation of our time). In this period the purpose of the healing in the TIMES OF THE APOSTLES is cut short. Healing as we know it dies and fades away to the background. Understanding WHY is very KEY and it is this reason why, that fake pastors who claim to heal do not understand as well as their blinded followers.


Key points to remember is supernatural powers exist, check and confirm from the occult.

Any pastor that claims to heal is a fake pastor cause they don't understand the HEALING IN THE TIMES OF THE APOSTLES and it's purpose.

understand how the times of the apostles overlaps with our time will help you see why miracles are hard to come by.
RomanceRe: I Need A Naughty Guy To Have Fun With by onlyfacts: 12:02pm On Apr 01, 2020
Arinola247:
Yeah, it's me.. who are you?
I'm just passing by... Till next time
RomanceRe: I Need A Naughty Guy To Have Fun With by onlyfacts: 9:18am On Apr 01, 2020
Arinola247:
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