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[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=851624.msg10019407#msg10019407 date=1327199486]I'm a Nigerian and if you were bright you'd pay attention to who is meeting who as well. olodo

Eze alaigbo, why are you worried about me na?  [/quote]lol, you are the one worried about MOI and Ndigbo. 

We support GEJ with every fiber of our beings! 

He still has 3 solid years to design Nigeria and shape it the way it should be.

When he is done, you won't recognize it again.

bashr8:
Are you not a northerner? Why are you so concerned about who is meeting who

The guy is desperate.
As we speak, there is a HIGH PITCHED opposition to Jonathan Presidency mainly from the North and West.

The guy jumps and starts talking about some myth pulled from his @ss.
Just let him wallow in self deceit.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=851624.msg10019392#msg10019392 date=1327199001]Please post the attendees of the said Edwin Clarke meeting and compare them to the attendees of the meeting I talked about.  You leaders remain fools and political novices.[/quote]Even a toddler knows that the meeting is necessary to help calm some frayed nerves over Jonathan presidency.
The president himself is likely behind it, and it is wise to do so. Does it really change anything?
We know who is having sleepless nights because of Jonathan presidency, and it ain't Igbo.

We SUPPORT JONATHAN COMPLETELY.  

This map is a very powerful map.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=851624.msg10019368#msg10019368 date=1327198429]Oh boy, Eminent leaders from the SS just issued a joint communiqué with SW leaders entitled: “Strengthening the Unity of Nigeria issued at the end of the jaw-jaw and jointly signed by the leader of the South-South delegates, Chief Edwin Clark, and his counterpart form the South-West, Bishop Bolanle Gbonigi. There was no SS "Igbo" present at the meeting. Shouldn't you all be working with the SS folks who are the real owners of onshore oil? They will give you nothing without a fight and given what's happening, the SW will fight on their side.[/quote]You mean the same meeting that Edwin Clarke also had with Igbo and SE leaders a couple of weeks ago?
What cud are your chewing this time?

Easy problem with easy solution.
If they are obstructing right of way and traffic, under Land Use Act, the governor has the powers to eject them from there and pay compensation (if they have legal title), if they don't have legal titltle, well, too bad.
This is not different from what Fashola did at Oshodi.

Some idddiots are looking for cheap attention.

alj harem:
[size=14pt]is this about expanding the Igbo territory or about making a great nation ? even if it is baifra ?

I don't understand the obsession with this land grabbing and population thing some of you people are doing all over Nigeria. Even if you have baifra today with the whole Middle belt, South-south including delta and edo and even expand to parts of cameroun, the issue has not been addressed which is every single individual be it igbo or not needs good governance and right to self determination. So really I don't see your fascination about "this south-south is our land thing"  it is rather silly to think that if your people who happen to be the igbos become the new super majority, things would change for the better. That would not be the case because "no man shall reap were he did not sow"  Goodluck with ur utopian dream of biafra and igbo domination. Allah be with baifra

even us Nigerians are getting fed up that is the reality[/size]

Let me ask you a question.
If Nigeria divides tomorrow, how will North Central be shared? Do you honestly believe that Hausa/Fulani would just sit by while you Yorubas divide up North Central to suit your warped sense of justice? Keep dreaming dude!
The South South contains a HUGE chunk of Igbo lands. Learn to live with it.
The way it would be shared is East, West, North. I don't even believe there would be any "middle belt". Who has time for pretenses. However, if any region would be divided, it is the North because Boko Haram is busy killing Northern minorities. Read my lips: We would not allow your type to divide and steal our resources again  under political perfidy.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=851362.msg10018522#msg10018522 date=1327184057]@Onlytruth Eze Ndigbo 1 of Nairaland,

Nwanne, check your email.[/quote]Bros I've seen it. Excellent work!

Check your mail.

bashr8:
Its really becoming ridiculous, I just wonder what they plan to achieve by doing that and how it will be of benefit to them. I think this is the major problem with the black man rather than solving your problems you keep looking for who to pull down

As a Christian, I draw a lot of wisdom from the Bible.
They are just like the Scribes and Pharisees who Jesus accused that they do not want to enter heaven, but they would stop anyone who wants to enter!
We want out, they fought against it; yet they would not secede either.

All these lies about division in the East are geared towards frightening us to abandon our drive to leave Nigeria.
I wonder why they don't want to leave, but are working to stop us from leaving. Ask them now, they would vehemently deny it. Yet, at any opportunity, they jump in to tell us how only SE would secede.

bashr8:
Why would any sane igbos man want edo to be in biafra? We might not even accept Ijaw talk less ofmedo,  we just want peace of mind and the less group we have the better for us

Believe me, the only group that is really disliked in the south are Yoruba. I know that Edo may not join Biafra, but I know for sure that they would NEVER join Odua. FACT.

I've said it here before, the way things would turn out when everybody is faced with hard core facts, would shock a lot of people.
I'm only angry that people are cutting up Eastern Nigeria to suit their twisted agendas.

BlackBaron:
And how is awori and ijebu not a sub-yoruba group  

Or is Ikwerre not igbo too ?

@ topic, all parties would lose out, but it will all be in their best interest.

Well, some Yoruba here have chosen perfidy as a preferred stratagem against Eastern Nigeria.
They cut and dice the East to fit their self deceit.

Well, when jungle matures we know who is who!

Worry about Awori and Ijebu who might even form their own nations.  

bashr8:
I think this prodam is st,upid I dont understand why non igbos become expert in igbos affairs, why would the igbos in rivers and delta not join their igbos country if I may ask you? Are people still this stu.pid in todays Nigeria.we have asked what minerals others have that we don't have? Is it oil we have in abundance in both imo, and abia or natural gas ? Or are u talking about fanta,coke and sprite. Secondly why are you getting headache over what will happen to igbos and how they should divide themselves? Why not put all that energy on what will happen to your people.

They are just being desperate.
A desperate man can say and do anything! They feel that the only way they can convince Igbo not to secede is to keep dividing Eastern Nigeria and hoping it sticks!
Only foolish Easterners accept that. They should go and check whether Awori would join Odua first, before coming here to talk trash.

BTW I have it on good intelligence that even Edo state will join Biafra.
What would anyone gain by joining Yoruba to form a nation?

prodam:
To you dede1, all what you have been saying i dont understand cos your posts lack harmony of words and sentences, and i guess that was why i have not replied to your earlier post,
u wrote about a record in 1965, 47 years ago, how many more states have been created over those years? what effect did the civil war had on the people of the east?

Get my stand clear, If the regions were to stand alone, the Igbos would be most affected,
how did Nigeria win Biafra, i heard it was "because there was shortage of food in the east", am i right?

the igbo land consists of Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, and parts of Delta and Rivers State. Small parts of Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Benue and Bayelsa State,
[b]as I said, only Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, would be forced to join the biafra nation [/b]and what do they have to offer, for your info, what these states have in common is lead/zinc,, i still repeat they can always count on their land,

You Yoruba have a lot of guts cutting and dicing up our land as you deem fit.
How dare you divide Igboland and Eastern Nigeria to suit your theory?
Why, for instance, would you believe that Awori and Ijebu would stay in one country with Yoruba, but you come to divide Ndigbo between SE and SS.

Dude, go back to school please. 

Meanwhile enjoy these maps.

karfe:
@ Houvest,

have you considered the implications of having all ndigbo staying in the current south east? the population density would rival that of Bangladesh. its bound to have some socio-political and economic implications 10-20 years down the line

Are all Ndigbo only from SE?

Your lies won't last long. Just watch!

According to these maps, the East is abundantly rich. Only the Yoruba should worry.

Lasinoh:
Ojukwu NL. . .the email brigade of Igbotic Unity online squad!

Agwu neee chemba 1 of NL. . . .Biafra branch!

Shioooooooooooooor!!!
Please. . .tell your AK and other Igbotic pigs of NL to avoid my posts!
Nothing to e-mail in secret.
Awon Abijan cowards!

If you notice, I don't reply to your posts because they are animalistic and below the IQ of an Australopithecus afarensis.

I would so do once, and it is to convey a message to homo sapiens.

I personally do not think that you are Edo, and I do not think you are married to an Igbo man, be he from the eastern or western banks of the Niger. I would only say that you are TYPICAL. I won't say more.

I advise all Igbo to ignore this creature. Don't let her drag you to her prehistoric "level".

@ak47mann

I will send you an email. Please check your mail in a few minutes and confirm.

EzeUche:
Where did this 3 million in Kano come from? Are there even 3 million Igbos in the entire North?

My people and our exaggerations can be too much o!  

Obviously, he was exaggerating. Some of them do that to justify their continued stay in the North, but they fail their own argument in doing that.
If you have 3 million in Kano, why can't you raise even 100 thousand men under arms to defend yourself?
I really have nothing to say at this time because it seems they are more concerned about women and children.
But then, isn't that the same problem with our people? Igbo adighi agba oso mmiri karia mgbe mmiri mazuru ha ahu.
Quite sad that they never thought about women and children until this eleventh hour.
Ndi be anyi nwere nnukwu nsogbu!  

The reason I want to invite the real powers is because I want to ensure that there is no international conspiracy against the East again. Once that is achieved, I am personally convinced that even only Igbo can and would defeat Hausa/Fulani hands down.
I believe that the day Hausa/Fulani will witness a real war -one fought freely and reaching their land- they may not even be able to keep one meter of land in Northern Nigeria.
That is why the East needs an international power to ensure a fair fight. This power chauvinism has to end.
I look forward to that fight!

All I know is that if a shooting war starts in Nigeria, I would personally invite the US and Israel to have permanent military bases in Eastern Nigeria.

Then, let mayhem begin!

@Rhino.5dm

You are indeed a very dense foool. Do you think anyone knows where this would end, or what it would ultimately lead to?
You didn't hear what the Ohanaeze man said properly. If I paraphrase him, he said they would love to stand and fight but their immediate concerns now are the women and children which need urgent evacuation from the North (Kano).
This jungle is only beginning. Don't gloat yet.

Coward hiding in Port Harcourt.

Simply dust up Aburi and implement it. No need reinventing the wheel.

Beaf:
@bayooooooo

Figures like the ones below do not lie. 99% of the Midwest voted to get out of the Western Region, it is a lesson that many of you have still not learnt which is why you are arrogantly revising history as if we do not know why we opted out. Arrogance played a huge part in our upping and leaving. Perhaps, I will open a thread on this issue and post many of the shameful things that set our minds on leaving the Western Region.

99% in a referendum is a very powerful declaration indeed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/618690_Midwest_gifc8ab793912f73fbfd315c809824d9a07

Very interesting table.

By my own calculation, 98.75% of mid westerners voted yes. So, 99% would be an accurate approximation.
Powerful stuff.

Nigerians and their pipe dreams. If a messiah showed up tomorrow, the tribalists would kill him alongside millions of his people if he happens to be Igbo.

If he is not Igbo, they would kill him alongside thousands of his people in the military. It happened to Nzeogwu. It happened to Gideon Okar.

Nigeria is a crucible of pain and shame to the black man. It would either take a divine mercy to peacefully partition it into functional nation-states, or a brutal war to forcibly partition it into functional nation-states.

I'm praying for the first option, but I'm also mentally preparing for the second option. 

Why is this thread crawling with Igbo haters again? Tomorrow some of them would start calling others tribalists.
Oh well, I have since concluded that everyone is entitled to his opinion on Nairaland. I call it FREE SPEECH!
Just don't cry when you attract Igbo militants to your own threads too.
Go on, we are watching you!

Every thief should face justice. Simple and short.

It appears that this has nothing to do with subsidy at all. It is about paying back loans from AMCON.

I hate all thieves. The Bible says that a good man borrows and pays back, while an evil man borrows and never pays back.

If this is how Ifeanyi Uba plans to run Anambra state if ever he becomes governor, then he has no business nearing our governors lodge at Awka.

All these money bags have the same problem - GREED.

Dude's from my town, but I ain't supporting no damn thief. Nonsense.

alj harem:
As for Onlytruth

You are meant to be a role model so people like Point B can follow, instead you are joining this madness of greed and envy.

Why not lets think of away to correct the wrongs of the past rather than wallow in ignorance.

Dude, what are you talking about?
For your information, PointB is my role model, not the other way round. Ka ji ko? 
Some of us have sworn never to swallow the deceit generously dished out by men of ill fame masquerading as human rights activists.
Tell your protesters to camp at the Eagle square and start demanding for a SNC, and I promise you I would join them at the front. Else, tell them that God will punish them seriously for misleading people. 

Beaf:
The concentration on Abuja is quite daft, except it is about forcing state gorvernors and LG chairmen to deliver development with their awuf money, then any reasons for a so-called match are contrived and driven by some darker ulterior motive.

Aside the above, I will not join a match that is aimed at curing symptoms instead of the root of the disease. Corruption and wastage are not our problem; the real problem is chaos. And to fix chaos, you've got to totally uproot and rejig the system.

The only reasons I will match are:

[list]
[li]To restructure the country along the lines of true federalism.[/li]
[li]The creation of a new citizen-state contract that guarantees a sense of belonging to all Nigerians.[/li]
[li]A charter of rights for all Nigerians.[/li]
[li]To force LG chairmen and governors to deliver to the people.[/li]
[li]For the immediate passing of an undoctored PIB by the NASS.[/li]
[li]The abrogation of the land use decree.[/li]
[li]The abrogattion of the petroleum act.[/li]
[li]The streamlining of child welfare laws to totally eliminate underaged marriages and Core mutilation.[/li]
[li]Firm laws that criminalise the almajiri institutution.[/li]
[li]Laws that criminalise anyone abusing religion to steal from the poor or traumatise the weak.[/li]
[/list]

I tell you that a camel would have to pass through the eye of a needle before [b]Alj_Harem [/b]and his band of dishonest protesters march for the bolded. It would never happen. I'm particularly offended because these people foist a culture of brazen dishonesty on innocent Nigerians. That is why some of us believe that only total disintegration of Nigeria would solve all these problems, else, can you imagine a Nigeria without the almajiri institution?

Thanks for your honesty!

PointB:
^^^^

I don't get it. Won't you be creating security problems for yourselves and other people? How can you prevent ill intentioned people from join the march and all that.

In any case, Nigerians have protested against corruption to no-avail. I will march if the focus is on true fiscal federation; confederation, or outright split!

Cacophony of reasons for marching is not helpful - get a central focus!

Spot on!

Nigeria is dominated by fake activists and cowards who insist on protesting, but always for the wrong reasons.
Ask them what the country's problem is and they would carelessly throw in the catch all word -corruption!
You then wonder why Nigeria is the only big country (country above 100 million people) where corruption is so endemic that something as simple as steady electricity supply is impossible; but these guys insist!
It is like saying that the air is polluted, but refuse to address the source of the air pollution.

I just read somewhere here that Nigeria imports crude oil for Kaduna refinery. I bet you that the refinery may even have been designed ab initio for foreign crude instead of Nigeria's crude, and I speculate that the reason may be deliberate (for political reasons, perhaps in case of a split). These folks would NEVER address the political foundation of Nigeria, but they will lead innocent and naive people to their deaths.

I wish them luck.

Beaf:
The point is that Nigeria is currently totally reliant on oil, that is the argument we are having.
Diversifying the economy is a future dream.

The FG can never make money from tax, with the way it is currently structured (which is why I would have loved to learn why you think we are politicaly stable).
The FG is structured for exploitation, indolence and parasitism. It is no coincidence that we have spent most of our 51 years retrogressing, while nations of a similar age (eg Malaysia and Singapore) have since become developed. It is also no coincidence that Nigeria is corrupt.
It is an area that those like you who hate me are loathe to hear. Regardless, it is the truth and the truth is painful, most NLers haven't got any understanding about how Nigeria works and the fact that the entire system is terribly sick, dying and needs fundamental changes that are painful.

Thank you my brother! Very well said.