₦airaland Forum

Katsumoto:
War is nasty business; I repeat what I said earlier, 'it is usually those who talk about military might that usually ask the UN to intercede later on'.

And I'll repeat what I said earlier "LET IT GO SON". 
This ain't ya thing! 

manny4life:
Eze anyi

Having looked at the Budget Appropriation Proposal before NASS, Enugu International Airport was included with a bill of N8.5billion ($53.12million). To me, that's a good sum but for an international standard, I think they need way more but something is good for a start. As for the Second Niger Bridge, unfortunately, it was NOT included in this year budget, I also look at other design proposals, I did not see anything relating to that of SE,  Personally, I think a bridge that cost more is prolly needed before an airport knowing the fact that Nigeria is at the brink of collapse, why not take the best you can. Just my own opinion, 

hehe! My brother that is almost counter-intuitive!

I think we need a FULLY FUNCTIONAL INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT before any other thing.

The bridge can always be constructed later.

We need that airport to enable us be in direct touch with the outside world.

Trust me on that!

ak47mann:
^^^

you are right is[b] like watching football,you the observer can see clearer than the footballer[/b]

Exactly! That is why I need you my brothers to keep reminding me of some things.
ihe eji adi dike abuo aga n'okwu bu maka nke onye chefuru ibe ya echetara ya!

Thank you in advance!   

Katsumoto:
Ok, so its only Igbo sons and daughters that have received training outside Nigeria?? I repeat, it is silly assumptions [/b]like these that cause unnecessary deaths and suffering.

Who is this one? When did you join NL? You want to disgrace my logic with facts?? You think this is your village square? Ok be my guest; start disgracing my logic.

My friend don't try to argue over EVERYTHING on Nairaland!  

Some of us have things we are [b]particularly interested in, and I can say without fear that the military IS NOT ONE OF YOUR AREAS OF INTEREST.
Don't let me or Olodostein disgrace you thoroughly on this one.

I am also HIGHLY restrained in saying some things here, and will remain restrained from saying those things here, because we are still Nigerians; but my friend if we ever pick up arms again against Nigeria, I can DOUBLY assure you that your type will be shocked out of your wits.  

Let it go son!  

ak47mann:
IBB wayo man but[b] i wonder why ibb himself didn't implement true federalism when he was in power,i believe that with military power you can change things for better with out protest[/b],he had better chance than Jonathan

hahaha!
I wonder too; but you know one thing about power is that while one is there, he may not be able to see clearly.
That is why a good leader is only a product of good advisers. lol

IBB should go one step further and say HOW Jonathan should do this.
Is it by declaring marshal law and outlawing current constitution?
Or is it by working with current thieves in both houses of the national assembly?

HOW is the issue! I trust the evil genius to come up with an ingenious idea.

Katsumoto:
This is how people get their Bottom.es kicked. Will the flawed and incompetent Nigeria Army be fighting trained soldiers from the US, Isreal, the UK? In the context of this thread, won't they be fighting other Nigerians? I wasn't aware that the US or Isrealie Armies were giving military training to those in the SS/SE.

SMDH

Okay, let me hint you a little. In 1967-70, Nigerian army faced other Nigerian army trained personnel.
Another war will LIKELY involve Igbo soldiers trained in some of the best military in the world, who would come down to train others in the same high level military tactics/logistics.  

Even at that, after seeing Nigerian army first hand in action against Sierra Leonian rebels under "general" Mosquito, I learned a lot about how inefficient they really are.
Anyways, let's wait for that evil day.

On a serious note, to be fair to IBB, he has been STEADY in his call for true federalism for some time now; from State police, to unicameral legislature. He really cried out before the elections last year. He was not trusted though.
That is why leaders need to ensure they never lose public trust!

Chyz*:
^^^This his statement lets you know that he is one of the minds behind boko haram.

I won't put it past the "evil genius", but as our "in-law", we go gif am the benefit of the doubt. hehe!

LOL @ "government spin-doctors".    

GEJ should begin REAL restructuring of the country now so that everybody will feed himself.
We are tired of parasites, weevils and leaches.

[size=16pt]IBB to Jonathan: Begin restructuring of the country now[/size]

…asks President to reduce cost of running govt

By Emmanuel Aziken, Political Editor & Henry Umoru

ABUJA -  Erstwhile Military President, General Ibrahim Babangida (rtd) has urged President Goodluck Jonathan to seize the opportunity offered by the ongoing national strike to initiate the restructuring of the federation.

Babangida in his third intervention since the removal of the alleged subsidy in the price of petrol said the President must use this opportunity to redefine the duties and obligations of the tiers of government.

Praising the quiet resolve of the protesters, Babangida said as Nigeria’s ruler for eight years, who faced 11 civil eruptions, he was never favoured with the kind of controlled and quiet protest President Jonathan has faced in the last seven days.

Babangida also said the unanimity of the protesters against the administration showed that Nigerians were determined to live together irrespective of cultural and religious differences.

Babangida’s intervention in a statement by his media spokesman, Prince Kassim Afegbua read:

“In my retirement home here in Minna, Niger State, North Central of Nigeria, I have been watching with responsible interest the unfolding scenario about our dear nation and the reactions which trailed government’s removal of subsidy on oil. The maturity exhibited by the protesters coupled with their orderly conduct has since become an innovation in Nigeria with respect to protestations and demonstrations.


“As a former Military President who survived 11 of such public anger, I should be in a better position to appreciate the maturity of the one under reference. I also feel a sense of pride seeing our Muslim and Christian brothers and sisters express such uncommon love and solidarity during the protest.”

Obviously referring to his past missives which he claimed had been rubbished by presidential aides, the former military president urged Jonathan to build a legacy for himself and the country by using the dissension to redefine the nation’s federation.

He said: “If my opinion will not be misconstrued again by government spin-doctors and naysayers, [b]I would rather call on President Goodluck Jonathan to seize the moment by legitimately embarking on complete restructuring of the country in order to put into practice the real principles of a Federation.

“There is too much power concentration at the centre, thus weakening the comparative abilities of the federating units at generating wealth for their constituents. History will be kind on Mr. President if he takes this bold step at ensuring the practice of true federalism.

“My very honest advice is that President Goodluck Jonathan should commence the process of devolving powers from the centre to the federating units, states and local governments, in order to gain sufficient time and concentration on several other developmental issues that would help move the nation forward.

“Let me reiterate the strong need for Mr. President to commence the process of practising fiscal federalism in the area of power devolution, anti-corruption crusade, attitudinal re-orientation, bureaucratic reforms, slim government, unicameral legislature and transparency in governance.[/b]

Cost of running govt

“As a part of this restructuring, the Federal Government must commence the process of cutting down on cost of running government by ensuring that a slim and tidy bureaucracy is put in place. The weaknesses in the present arrangement have since been exposed and have to be discarded to accommodate new thinking in global managerial dynamics.

Anti-corruption crusade
“Government’s anti-corruption crusade must be given teeth in such a transparent and accountable manner devoid of political witch hunt, favouritism and executive interference. Our anti-corruption crusade must have identifiable set goals with measured impact assessment so that the citizenry will buy into the programme without let or hindrance. Once the crusade on anti-corruption is set on the right footing, it will go a long way to mitigate incidences of corruption and corrupt practices in both public and private sectors of our economy.”

“I feel strongly that this new thinking should occupy the attention of President Goodluck Jonathan in his transformation agenda in his determination to make an impression in governance with a marked departure from old practices.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/ibb-to-jonathan-begin-restructuring-of-the-country-now/

GAR3TH:
I would rather agree to use REAL facts and statistics instead of fabricating fantasies. If you don't know something then either research about it but don't make assumptions. Thats really what wrong with the people Nairaland.

Dude I wasn't using fabricated information. I posted a map from a reliable source.
I saw that you put Igboland in quotes in your earlier post, that is why I said we should agree to disagree.
I still maintain that there are more ONSHORE oil in Igboland than any other places (onshore).

Olodostein:
I see that Reason has  been relegated to the dumpster on NL. Let us all play politics now, my friends.

We Ndigbo can stand on our own two feet . Biafra and Niger Delta Republic can always be strong allies like America and Israel. And when we Finally decide that it is over. No one can stop us. This is the 21century and not 1966. The aboki's could have field day with you guys .

Don't let me start breaking down[b] how fundamentally flawed and incompetent Nigeria and her military is[/b] . (It is a classified information)

hehe! lmao.

Whoever is working with President Jonathan should sound this caution to him (if he cares), else, after this year, HE IS ON HIS OWN!
Hoohaa!

Obiagu1:
True, those two are a-must-do for him else he is a product of Edwin Clarke's school of thought.
The very first impression would have been the planned refineries but like always, SE is left to remain 100% privately powered region in the country.

The most annoying aspect of that omission is that the refineries are even allocated to regions with ZERO oil and gas resources.
Personally, I am not too picked by that because of the environmental impacts of refineries.
The "battle of Zama" for me, are the Enugu International Airport (fully functional this year), and Second Niger Bridge (seriously under construction this year).

Obiagu1:
I really don't like this co-joined twin of SE/SS. I'd rather go for SE/some SS because the Ijaw are independent and have always been this way and GEJ is Ijaw. I am 1,000% sure that if an Igbo was the President, they will be the first to scream crucify him.

The Igbo have always shown apathy to any national demonstration in the country because we are sincerely not interested in the Nigerian project, so this one is not different; it is not about GEJ or anything similar to it. It's about our calmness and importantly the subsidy removal is a just cause.

We have to be cautious about this marriage because we'll all be left with sour taste in our mouths at the end of the day. I have my strong reservations about GEJ's presidency but will give him the benefit of the doubt until the last day of his tenure. One thing is for sure, Igbos will be left bitter at the end, though we'll not show it because we've gone through this several times and have learnt to be independent of the government and surely we'll not be moved at the end. It's still the same life cycle for us all.

I am using TWO main yardsticks to measure whether the GEJ presidency has been good to Ndigbo or not, and they are:

ENUGU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
SECOND NIGER BRIDGE AT ONITSHA

If he fails to SERIOUSLY show progress on these two THIS YEAR, I will lead Igbo here to start agitating for withdrawal of support from him. Simple.

He needs to show us that he is trustworthy in LITTLE before we believe he should be trusted with MUCH.

GAR3TH:
I have to disagree with that statement, The Eastern delta has the most followed by the western delta. Though there are oil fields in "igboland", its less than 1/5th off nigeria's onshore oilfields. And mind you that 1/3rd of nigeria oil comes from offshore deepwater rigs. so in reality its really about 1/15th if you include deep water oil.

https://www.martresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/21/nigeria-umusadege-field/Umusadege.jpg

Let's just agree to disagree on the Onshore oil.

I agree that most of Nigeria's OFFSHORE fields are supplying most of Nigeria's exports. However, I suspect that the offshore oil will likely finish first because I know that Anambra state for instance has about 1 billion barrels of oil sealed and waiting.

Negro_Ntns:
The ownership has changed hands . . . . you no longer own the resource.  You only have stewardship of the land.

hahaha hehehe hihihi hohoho!!
lmao!

Nchara:
Liar. At that same time the East had palm oil and coal. Why do you guys lie with so much gusto?

Meanwhile he told me to accept it as "truth to take with you to bed tonight".
That is why I said I dey laff. lol

Negro_Ntns:
Onlytruth,

Let me give you a truth to take with you to bed tonight.  In the days of Cocoa export as Nigerian cash crop, the whole country subsisted on the income.  Same with groundnut.  Today, it is oil.  As long as Nigeria remains one, as long as your SS and SE continue to ooze oil. . . . West and North are happy to co-own Nigeria with you.  Now, if that is too bitter for you to swallow, then this new coalition of SS/SE need to appeal to your son, Gej and direct him to create corridors between you and the rest of Nigeria, pending when Biafra is soon actualized and you can stop sharing your oil with West and North. 

Failing this separation, you and your SS cohorts need to take a chill pill and be content with what we hand to you as your share of the oil revenue.  You have more people in Lagos than any other ethnic group.  Right?  Well, guess what?  That means Lagos gets more share of Oil revenue than any other state.  You have billions of Igbo indigenes in Kano, right?  Then Kano should follow behind Lagos in revenue allotment.

I dey laff.

Well, lets wait till we the owners can do something about the situation.
Thanks for your thoughts.

Suddenly, somebody from Edo state is now calling me oil thief!
I'm laughing seriously!

Most of Nigeria's oil is in the Eastern region and Igboland.
That is why I don't buy the geopolitical zones because it is a way to divide and conquer the East.
Why is the North still there, but the East is butchered balkanized for no reason?

We will get to the stage of claiming back our political sanity one day.
Yes we can! and we will!

Since I saw this map, my eyes opened BIG TIME.

There are more onshore oil in Igboland than any other place in Nigeria. FACT.

Let the conversion continue.

aguiyi:
Igbo kwenu
@ onlytruth,who gave you that tittle without due consultations,the same reason workers have downed tool across the nation

My brother, this thread is really meant to inform your type who didn't know when umunna voted for Eze last year ending. The office was established by general Igbo Nairalander consensus, and IT IS NOT MINE.

My term is only for ONE year, and there will be another election in December this year for a new Eze.

Get in touch bros.   

alj harem:
Yes I agree with you Eze mo

Alj_harem, what title shall I give you now that you have become Igbo again?
Should I give you the title of "Chameleon in Chief at the Obi of Eze Igbo Nairaland"?lol  

Anyway, I still plead with you to help us reduce hate in Nigeria, especially against Ndigbo.

Ka ji ko?
Se o ye e insi? (if I'm right on that  )

dem_people:
Eze Ndigbo, the more we NL Ndigbo deliberate on it, the more we're likely not to all agree on a specific date which will lead people not to adhere to a certain number of days thereby making a mockery of your title and Ndigbo of NL. Ndi iro will now start saying that we haven't even been able to respect the Ikemba we keep trumpeting around this forum.

I think you can consult your cabinet since you all up there represent us. I personally will like to abstain for 7 days but I prefer that we all stick to a common specified number of days so as to have the maximum effect required. The longer the better.

If your cabinet can't agree then, use your executive powers as enshrined in the Akwukwo Iwu Ohanaeze Ndigbo, to put down a date. The earlier we put down number of days and advertise these days throughout the forum, the better we can record the most effect cos not many people come to this forum on a daily basis.

Eze, We will be guided by your final decisions.

Eze Ndigbo 1 of NL,

Udo di.

Thank you again my brother.

The bolded is exactly why I decided it should be for just one day. Even at that, I knew that some will still oppose it as you can see from this thread so far.

The most important thing is the effectiveness of the stay away, not really the number of days as you noted.

The one day is the day that the Ikemba is buried. So, we shall stick to that one day. 

Like I said before, we've been mourning now for months.

Members are welcome to abstain for any number of days, provided they stay away on February 3rd.

Dalu nwanne madu.

Igbo kwenu!

This thread is for Ndigbo to get in touch with the "office" of Eze Ndigbo Nairaland. Please send me an email at ezendigbo_nl@hushmail.com.

If you can, please open an email address at hushmail.com and use it to contact me.

When you contact me, please make sure that you include your Nairaland moniker (screen username) in the body of the email to enable me to link the email with the username, and to create a mailing list with it.

This email is very important because it is the official email address of the Eze Ndigbo Nairaland, which will be passed on from one Eze to another, from year to year.

As you should know already, my term as Eze Ndigbo is for ONE YEAR only, and ends on December 31, 2012.
Within the period of my term, I plan to interact effectively with all Igbo here on Nairaland, to be able to echo your opinions effectively. The email is the most important tool in doing that.

Thank you in advance!

Igbo Kwezuo nu!

Signed,

Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

One_Naira:
It depends on what nation

In UK and Ghana, there are more Yoruba than Igbo
In Middle East, more Hausa than Igbo or Yoruba
In the US and China, there are more Igbo than Yoruba.

Good, which means we are more in the most strategic countries. 

Olodostein:
He said, “It is not as if I have given up anything. No, I have not given up and my address after the Supreme Court judgement showed that I have not given up.

“I said it 25 years ago that this is the only country that we have. [size=14pt]You can get a job anywhere; but your children will ask you one day, when are we going home?[/size] So, whatever we do, we better do it well and see what we can do about our country,” he said.

How ironic!
What is this man talking about? Nigerians can't live on all parts of Nigeria, and yes they ask this same bolded question, which the like of Buhari failed to address when they were in office.
So, what is he REALLY talking about?
SMDH!

@dem_people

I'm thinking that since this thread is already up and going, I may modify it to include a suggestion regarding the number of days to stay off here. We still have time to deliberate on it before February 3.
What do you think?