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Please I'm conducting an online auction for Nigeria. I would accept cash from the highest bidder. lol

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=820908.msg9735237#msg9735237 date=1323516954]so what did the igbos say before those people made such statements ? do you care to answer ?[/quote]You tell me.
What did they say, that justifies supposed grown men to start dancing on the graves on children and women?

Gbawe:
Alhaji, may God forgive those with bigotry in their souls to the extent they never want to see others as capable of doing good.

Ask these charlatans;

When Dele Momodu staunchly defends all Nigerians in Ghana, did he attempt to make ethnic distinctions?

When our current Ambassador to Ghana (Obanikoro) , even as I am not a fan, fought to change the popular perceptions of Nigerians as criminals, did he go out of his way to villify any ethnic group?


Yet the bigots here now wish to claim that Ghanaians are on their side against the Yorubas as if the average Ghanaians know the difference. They even childishly use Nollywood as proof   .

Is it not now clear  why some , like PointB, Afam4eva, Onlytruth et al , because of how they can never view Nigerians beyond ethnic colouration, should never be placed in positions of authority where they are supposed to be representing[b] all Nigerians[/b]?

You people make me laugh with your hypocrisy.
Gbawe, one of the things I hate most about you and other "refined" Yorubas on this forum is that you are ALWAYS missing in action when your rabid brothers Eko-ile, Dayokanu,Bluetooth, Aigbofa and Ekt_bear go to town on innocent Igbo women and children killed in the civil war.
You guys just make us laugh with your delusional sanctimony.
READ MY LIPS: WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT US.  
The day you truly repent and shed excessive wickedness, we shall know, else the LAW OF KARMA says that mass murder is heading west in Nigeria.
Repent or face retribution.  

PointB:
^^^^
Continue seeing Igbo everywhere and in everything. Make us larger than liFe.

My broda I tire o.

@NRI PRIEST

Okuko siri umu ya ha nuru mmiri ha na ene anya n'enu maka na ife n'egbu egbu na esi na enu!

Okwa (the patridge) siri umu ya ha turu ji ha turu mgborogwu maka ubochi onye nwe ji ya egwuru ji, ka ha ribe mgborogwu!

Umuigbo should never lose sight of the true state of things in Nigeria.

NRI PRIEST:
Good gesture but just like ONLYTRUTH pointed out;they need to arm themselves to the teeth, MAKA NA ONYE NDI ILO GBALU OKILI-KILI NA ECHE NDU YA NCHE!!

Kpom kwem the great High Priest of Nri (nwa idemili). Ana m ekene! 
Ndi umunne anyi a adiro anu ife ncha ncha! Mana anyi aga eme gini O na ewute m rinne nwanne m! 

Dis guy na real gorilla. LOL

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=820908.msg9734800#msg9734800 date=1323512577]LOL Gbawe, this people want to bring the worst out of u. Be very careful you do not turn into a bigot.

This are the sort of threads you just have to avoid. These people hate yorubas out of envy and trust me, they can donate a thousand yoruba heads to amadioha just to quench there envy.

Just be careful and avoid threads like this.[/quote]Envy kwa? 
Na wa o.
Ona get problem walahi. How can I envy evil and wickedness Chineke ekwela ihe ojoo! 

em. . oga nagoma
We are still waiting for you to bring the proof to the claim you made below:

Posted by: nagoma

As foolish as these boys who went to the vanguard are , they seem wise enough to avoid saying they want to be southerners. Tarka's experience with the transient romance with Awo will keep them away for ever. In case of going eastwards , I don't even need to tell them. My brothers middlebelters ( former northerners) know that they would better have an alliace with a rattle snake than go with the ibos. Ask the idoma and the tivs!

I personally don't care much about any alliances with Middle-belt because I believe that Karma is still working. So please don't make a claim against us unless you have evidence to support your claims. The only rattle snakes I see are people who kill women and children for whatever reason.

Gbawe:
Look, have you ever set foot in Ghana or is this the usual desire to talk out of sheer ignorance to begin claiming everyone is on your side? My association with Ghana is familial and[b] decades old. [/b]If you want to claim Ghanaians somehow side with the Igbos to view Yorubas as the unsavoury ethnic group you claim them to be, then I will only conclude you are a deluded person who makes no allowance for what obtains in reality. Besides, folks with integrity don't go around pretending to be what they are not. Such actions indicate deciet and a willingness to be duplicitous so as to influence the outcome of an event/discussion.

Gbawe
The worst crime any neutral party may accuse Igbo of here is that of feeling more capable than everybody (which may not be far from the truth ) ; but the worst crime most neutral rational folks would accuse Yoruba of here is that of being wicked and devilish.
Now, take your pick. 

Posted by: PointB

[b]Only ignorant people will claim Nollywood crazy Ghanaians don't know the major tribes in Nigeria. [/b]Yes, ignorant or perhaps mischief makers.

Thank you bro!

Posted by: Gbawe

My friend, give it a rest. Does your self-delusion know no bound? Have you being to Ghana? I know Ghana as well as any Nigerian can know the Country. If you want to somehow do what is the norm, i.e ignore fact and what obtains in reality, to insinuate the Ghanaians take side, then I can only conclude you are highly ignorant.  Let Nairaland bigots carry on their idiocy. Leave Ghanaians out of it. Majority hardly know the ethnic differences of Nigerians aside those who are really close to Nigerians.

There is no one , while conveniently ignoring facts, the likes of yourself will not claim as being on your side ,as "pious saints", against Yoruba "wickedness" . Next you will tell us that South Africans too know Yoruba people to be the "evil oppressors". You guys should simply leave Ghana and other Nations out of your desperado need to claim the moral high ground.

My friend you are the one being delusional.
You think only Nigerians visit this site? LOL. Dey dia
I once pretended to be a foreigner and really tried to keep an open mind reading through the exchanges between your Yoruba brothers and other Nigerians, especially Igbos over the civil war issue. Dude you need to see how your brothers were sounding like demonic mass murderers!
You guys have hypocrisy issue which you must deal with to be able to see your true image both in the eyes of Nigerians , and those of foreigners.
Now, these are not postulations. THEY ARE FACTS.  

namfav:
ibos are what you call fair weather friends, the same ghanaians if they say something negative y[b]ou will shout ghana must go [/b]but because a ibo, pseudo ghanaian said something positive they udnerstand you, the same ghanaians who arrest ibos on sight

Ghana must go NEVER happened in the East. It happened in Lagos/West.
If we had Biafra, the two countries would have the best of relationship because we share a hard work culture.
Whatever bad blood Ghanaians have for us  now is because we are Nigerians and Nigerians (Yorubas) deported them in the past.

JamesDoe:
^^^^^^^^
You spend your day calling those that defeated your army cowards, you then enlarge your commentary to cover an entire ethnic group. And yet you think you are on some sort of higher plane!

If Yorubas bother you that much and make you hide under your bed at night, hiding your manliness then don't post rubbish.

Just because a few people post things about the civil war doesn't give you the right to trash talk.

It would seem that instead of some Igbos to face the specific generals within the Nigerian armed forces that defeated Biafra you come onto an anonymous online forum to trash talk - how brave?

I have more respect for the young boy who threw "pure water" at OBJ than for this clown claiming to be some sort of "eze" on Nairaland! Dude, you are a PUNK!

How "holy" of you! I marvel at your sense of righteousness. 
You did not see your brothers singing the praises of a mass murdering coward who targeted innocent women and children in the name of bravery.
My friend move over!

Just keep praying that I win that "Eze" which may gag me more than I may want, else una go hear am from me here!
Hypocrites. 

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=820908.msg9732306#msg9732306 date=1323464724]. . . .for their get-along relationship and the pseudo-unity it entails, Igbos need to look to their East. They share ancestry and roots with Cameroun, not with Yoruba. [/quote]I actually agree TOTALLY.

Why are folks shocked that Ghanaians actually understand Nigerian local politics, and know who is causing problems in Nigeria? They are very smart and hard working people.
I remember while growing up in Onitsha how Ghanaians hustled like average Igbo in Onitsha to eke out a living. They were into everything, from skilled labor to music. They are also the most educated English speaking country in the west coast of Africa and so they can analyse things. But above all, they hosted the famous Aburi meeting which was supposed to avert the civil war.

I have also said it here on NL that Igbos have more in common (behaviour-wise) with Ghanaians, than with most Nigerian tribes, expect perhaps the Ibibio/Annang. So, they understand us more.

I'm happy that our case is gradually finding its feet on the international scene.  

GenBuhari:
[b]Why has Nigerian not demanded the Imprisonment of Obasanjo [/b]and Babangida?

This is how I began to understand the sense  in the saying: "A country deserves the leader it gets".

Nigeria can be transformed overnight if Nigerians would simply go onto the streets and demand change.

Actually I think that Obasanjo belongs in jail. He is the single biggest thief in Nigeria.
IBB is reformable. Obasanjo is not.

The man is a nutty professor. He is treacherous and cannot command integrity.

^^
BTW I ignore some of them here these days, because I think they are really cowards.

Toaskarity:
^^^^  LOL

@dayo and ektbear, i wish im the moderator i will try as possible and trace your ip if possible know who exactly you guys are. Atimes i wonder if its the same yorubas i see everyday that are saying all this!

My brother, one of my friends while at uni was from Ogun state. Some of them have a way of hiding their true feelings inside. Some call it cowardice; some call it treachery. Bottomline is that we Ndigbo need to learn fellow Nigerians. We are too busy pursuing success that we miss sight of these things. That is part of why we lost the war.
There was betrayal EVERYWHERE.
So watch your back bro.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=821864.msg9733643#msg9733643 date=1323489714][size=15pt]Igbo in Jos declare seven-day mourning for Ojukwu[/size]

By Kolade Adeyemi, Kano 4 hours ago





The Igbo in Jos have declared a seven-day mourning for the late Ikemba Nnewi, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu.
They have also opened a condolence register at the Eze Igbo Palace for sympathisers.

In a statement by the community, the Eze Igbo Jos, Prof Joseph Obilom, said: “All Igbo in Jos are to fast and pray for the repose of Ojukwu’s soul, starting from Monday.”

Prof. Obilom described Ojukwu as the father of the new concept of Nigeria because he fought for equality and fairness among the country’s entities.

The Eze Igbo asked all Igbo to come to his palace and sign the condolence register in honour of Ojukwu who, according to him, epitomized Nigeria’s unity.


http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/29263-igbo-in-jos-declare-seven-day-mourning-for-ojukwu.html[/quote]Good, but they should think about HOME more, unless they show me a plan to defend themselves in Jos with ARMS in the future.
Mourning without plans is no plans.

@Aigbofa

I'll reply to you ONCE. Dayokanu is now in the same class below my attention here (eko-ile, bluetooth, seanet et al) . 

You guys talk as if we care about all these undue lionization of a failed soldier.
Adekunle was dealt severe losses by the Biafran POORLY equipped Brigades. He was DEFEATED and was costing Nigeria THOUSANDS of soldiers. He wanted to capture Owerri, but FAILED. He never captured a single core Igbo town.
So, he resorted to loud boasts to journalists. He was removed because of those FAILURES, not because of the boasts, or altruistic reasons. If Adekunle was successful with core Igbo areas, he would have been retained afterall he did not kill more innocent Igbos than Murtala Muhammad.
So, stop smoking coward cigar. No one was ever afraid of Adekunle in IGBOLAND. 

History still records that Adekunle was kicked out like a rabid dog by Gowon.
The Biafrans could have shut his stoopid Ogbomosho mouth with a nice sniper shut.
He was yanked out before he disgraced the Nigerians.

@ekt_bear

For someone who claim to have a some empirical background, your thinking here is shockingly daft and deranged.

How dare you compare a PRESIDENT like Abraham Lincoln to a poor weak soldier like Adekunle.  
Anyone with any brains at all would only compare GOWON (not Adekunle who was filling a Nigerian tribal quota position to make the war seem like everyone was against Igbo) with other PRESIDENTS, NOT a soldier who TEMPORARILY commanded just ONE front in a THREE front war.
What school did you attend again? Your intelligence is less than that of a grade 2 kid.

No one cares whether you have morals or not, after all the genocide can come to you next time in Nigeria; just stop comparing great men with weaklings.

BTW I still believe that if Tim Onwuatuegwu knew how loud Adekunle was, he could have assigned the S Brigade the special duty of shutting Adenkule's mouth before Gowon kicked Adekunle out of the 3MCO.

Adekunle after the war

lol

ak47mann:
Their population in ebony state is not much we can still put them under our control.

That is what the Beroms in Jos and Benue people thought a few years back. I doubt they still say that now.
What is this governor smoking anyway?
Is he smoking PDP?

asorocker:
The Above postulations are at best very funny, even if you delayed Biafran Declaration by a year and buil the most formidable arsenal and amoury factory in Aba , PH an Awka would you still have been able to withstand the Air superiority of Soviet Union and the Military logistics of Great Britain, infact within a few seconds The soviet built MIGs would have bombed out all the military arsenal buil over the past year and Biafra would be back to square 1 .


Before the Declaration of Biafra , Nzeogwu advised ojukwu not to seccede but to organise a counter coup to the northern coup which would have involved getting the best and formidable shooters in the east planning for a bloody massacre of northen soldiers in Lagos , this would have toppled to apple cart and equalised the equation.

I really believe that was what the Biafran expeditionary force was aiming to achieve when they marched towards Lagos and got as far as Ore before Banjo sold out/developed a cold feet. That expedition was the last attempt to prevent an all out war, unfortunately it failed.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=821015.msg9726608#msg9726608 date=1323412205]Obviously there is asymmetry in our positions. If I had been on the receiving end of Adekunle, I would likely hate his guts and that of his people.

To this day there are Americans who hate the Northern part of the country, hate Lincoln, etc.

I've never asked any of ya'll to be pro-Adekunle or something.

But that I understand why you dislike him doesn't mean I must too. Any more than I must hate Lincoln because a man from Georgia does.[/quote]There you go again spoiling an otherwise sound reasoning. Please don't pull down the image of a great and decent man like Lincoln by equating him with a crude raving lunatic racist like Adekunle.
Adenkule was not fighting against Eastern Nigeria as he should; he was fighting against Igbos and minorities who supported them.
He felt that the minorities were daft not to be able to see a reason to join Igbos in fighting for emancipation of Eastern Nigeria. He however felt that without the Igbos, the minorities would not fight. That was his height of condescension on the minorities. Abraham Lincoln never singled out the French or German or Italian Americans to wipe them out like Adekunle was trying to wipe Igbos out.

I understand that conscience is not a standard attribute of every human being, as I've learned here in NL, but don't try to make it look as if Adekunle was justified to wage a racist war against Igbos, instead of fighting a war of unification as a Nigerian army officer. His lack of conscience and rabid racism actually made him look weak and loud.
If I were a Biafran battalion commander during the war, I would have assigned a special sniper squad to make sure he never lived long enough to be relieved of his weak/poor command.
The Nigerians did the job before the Biafrans could have got to him though.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=821015.msg9726347#msg9726347 date=1323406542]@Onlytruth: There is nothing he did wrong. So he has no reason to be ashamed.[/quote]Ok, fair enough, but let's play a little game called "Reverse-role".

Here is the situation reversed:

STERN: [/b]What will your troops do when you get to the Yoruba heartland, that is, to the place populated by Yorubas only?

[b]ADEKUNLE: [/b]There we will aim at everything even if it is not moving.

[b]STERN: But you said yourself that most of the refugees in the part you captured are not Yorubas.

ADEKUNLE: But there could be Yorubas among them. I want to avoid feeding a single Yoruba as long as this whole people have not given up yet.

STERN: Do you sometimes feel sympathy for the Yoruba?

ADEKUNLE: I have learned a word from the British, which is “sorry”! That’s how I want to respond to your question. I did not want this war but I want to win this war. Therefore I have to kill the Yorubas. Sorry!



Now, assume that Adekunle were a Biafra commander in the war; do you think there would EVER be peace between Igbo and Yoruba until Igbo distances from this man and even apologize to the Yoruba about his actions?

You see why we laugh at you guys when you talk as if you seriously want to stop Hausa/Fulani in Nigeria.

ak47mann:
[b]The thing is that if i was in ikemba shoes, i will delayed The Declaration of Independence Tuesday, May 30, 1967 use UN to delay the process [/b]by that way i will use my power as eastern region military governor to secretly build up my own military special guards,and invite a hand full of scientist from eastern Europe,then i will secretly build a big ammunition factories in places like agulu,ABA,PH.

This will take me 3months max to build those foreign scientist will sign an agreement with eastern region that  will always kept secret no matter what, and couple with igbo scientist from USA and Canada will work hand in hand with them the foreigners will secretly send  them back in six months after training our technicians basic things.
A)is to teach them how to manufacture artillery's that can reach 300miles.
B)they will also learn on how to make our own biiafran guns from machine gun to rifle guns and pistols.
C)And with our own technicians that produce ogbunigbe bombs will work closely with them to get better and efficiency, there by they can produce anti air guns and tanks.

After that i will announced for secession of biafra from Nigeria,it will be a different war.

My brother, the evolving situation never made room for such delays. You would not understand why Ojukwu declared Biafra until you understand the events of the July 1966 counter coup. To some extent, the civil war was just a continuation of that counter coup. That Gowon did not march on Enugu sooner is part of why I have a lot of respect for Ojukwu despite his flaws. With good hindsight, nothing really stopped Gowon from marching on Enugu, if there was no strong Eastern governor in the person of Ojukwu.

Now, if you say that Ojukwu should have sought and obtained the military alliance or support of a world power before accepting the Eastern agitation for secession, you may have a point, but always remember that Gowon did not march on Enugu because there was Ojukwu who skillfully navigated a period of a peace process -constitutional conference (late 1966) and Aburi (Early 1967).
When you factor in British role, Europe became a no-go area for Biafra, though the French managed to eke out LITTLE support to Biafra in the late stages of the crisis.

I would speculate that Ojukwu did not expect the British to support Nigeria against Biafra.
Hindsight is always 20/20.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=821095.msg9726190#msg9726190 date=1323399983]Eh-heh! Now you know where you are. Ever since the death of The Ikemba I've noticed that there has been a lot of sorrow coming from the SW,SS, and now MB in relation to his death. [/b]It's like he gave them some sort of hope. Now that the Ikemba is gone [b]una dey fear. You see? Good. Now you know.[/quote]I noticed the same thing too. But I think it is not really fear. I think it is REMORSE. It is not overt, but very much there.
Truth is a very powerful thing.
Igbo say that truth is indomitable. If you cover it up in a container, it will escape like smoke. If you bury it under the ground, it will germinate like a plant.

It is all good though.