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Happy Birthday Mr President ! Wishing you many more years!!!

Stoopid thread.
I love and revere BOTH men equally. Both are RARE Africans. They are two sides of the same coin.
Uncommon geniuses.

@Topic

I really think that Easterners/Igbos don't have any problem with farming or feeding themselves. I think that Igbos/Easterners are more diverse in their career pursuits. We have farmers and they are holding their own as already pointed out by others here. They are in the whole East. There are clustered areas of East/Igboland and there are also vast sparsely populated areas too. We have cities. We also have rural vegetative areas too. That is why you can still buy a plot of land for N100,000/plot in some parts of Igboland, while a similar plot can go as high as N20 million in another part of the same region. So, lets be real. We all shouldn't be farmers.

Posted by: Nchara

There is land shortage, as supported by many qualified studies. [b]A simple look in a Nigerian map will answer your question too. [/b]In addition, it is worsened by land fragmentation pattern which works against mechanized agriculture. Igbos have enough land for subsistence agriculture but not enough for large-scale mechanized ventures. Those so-called idle land you see in Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi  are how many in terms of hectarage compared to similarly idle land in the North and SW?

The bolded is the problem! No one should take "a simple look" at the official map of Nigeria.
What I found on ground contradicts a lot of that map.
Again, no region can boast of a traditional large scale farming, or sustain infinite large scale farming. Land is not infinite anywhere. So you cannot say that Igbos are "forced" into subsistence farming because of land scarcity. Even if Igboland is as large as the North, Igbos practice subsistence farming traditionally. Large scale farming is new to Africa.

Posted by: Nchara

There is land shortage, as supported by many qualified studies. [b]A simple look in a Nigerian map will answer your question too. [/b]In addition, it is worsened by land fragmentation pattern which works against mechanized agriculture. Igbos have enough land for subsistence agriculture but not enough for large-scale mechanized ventures. Those so-called idle land you see in Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi  are how many in terms of hectarage compared to similarly idle land in the North and SW?

The bolded is the problem! No one should take "a simple look" at the official map of Nigeria.
What I found on ground contradicts a lot of that map.
Again, no region can boast of a traditional large scale farming, or sustain infinite large scale farming. Land is not infinite anywhere. So you cannot say that Igbos are "forced" into subsistence farming because of land scarcity. Even if Igboland is as large as the North, Igbos practice subsistence farming traditionally. Large scale farming is new to Africa.

Of course there may be cheaper land elsewhere. Heck there is always cheaper land elsewhere!
Here in the US, you can get 120 acres of land for just $5000. It all depends on the area!
So, the price of land in the East might be a little more than elsewhere but let nobody tell me they are not there.

Posted by: abouzaid

@alh_harem,     ka beri shi,   you should not  waste your energy arguing with an unrepentant ethnic bigot.     @nchara               nwoke m, kedu ife na eme gị? Jide onwe gị aka. What's my concern with rural sociology or agricultural economics? When have poultry stop being part of agric? You made a very sensible submission about the fragmentative land holding in igbo land and i supported you by saying that i have seen such in most parts of anambra. Asha80 also suggested that i could counter that obstacle by meeting the owners of the large tracts of unoccupied forestland in nsukka to acquire the land for mechanized farming of which i responded that i intend to do so at igbariam. What's there to fight about? Ok, suggest an appropriate title for the thread and i will rename it just to gain your peace. Jiri ya nwayo na onwero ife eji okwu na ụka eme

hehehe!
I support abouzaid on this one. BTW I don't think there is scarcity of land in Igboland for agriculture.
There may not be enough for wastage  but that's it! I don't buy this scarcity of land in the East theory one bit.
Large tracts of land are lying idle in Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi (the areas I'm very familiar with). I don't know about Imo and Abia areas.
I'm also eying farming in the East, and I will find more than enough land for it!

Chyz, great job too!

Posted by: jason123

How is he kicking some a55es? By false and dubious claims?? By insulting our collective intelligence? By adding Efik to the mid-west?
You can be funny at times.

Btw, I thought Willywilly was "Efik"? I dey laugh seriously! I once dated an Efik girl, what they(not only her) say is TOTALLY different from you guys type her. Delusion of grandeur, I say! Only the "kids" and the gullible minds will be swallowed by some cheap propaganda displayed here.

He is whopping your buttts and you know it! hehehe!

How long do you even think it should take before folks from Ogoniland and others learn the whole truth?
Y'all can't even stand a GEJ presidency, and have been calling him all types of names just because he is Ijaw.

About WilyWily, I believe he is Ogoni, but it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that he knows you people very well.

I have always known that Eastern minorities scare the hell out of these guys whenever they support the Biafra agenda. They know that with these Eastern minorities supporting Biafra, the game would soon be over.
A period of enlightenment in the East has been ushered in by the GEJ presidency.
We shall get there!

My Ogoni brother Dawgpound is kicking some serious @ss!
One blow from him sent Alj majiri and his blood sucking vampire bats scampering for safety.

BTW @ alj harem, there is another Ogoni kicking @ss here. His name is WilyWily!

The Easterners are waking up gradually. Easterners like the Ogoni might even lead us to our promised land soon!

Obiagu1 per your "ebe onye bi ka o na awachi" philosophy;
What do you say about the young graduate in Igboland problem he raised. A young guy graduates from university in Onitsha, he picks up "ina aga" (okada), while a young graduate in Owerri picks up "keke napep". Meanwhile our folks are busy building industries elsewhere employing other people, and they expect to have peace when they return. lol.

The proverb about the awọ (toad) and akịrị (frog) is also hilarious. Akịrị  thinks he qualifies to be king simply because he jumps around from bush to road (outside home); while the toad knows that staying close to the ground (home) is the main quality of a good king. I would pick the toad over the frog!  lol.
A lesson for all of us!

Posted by: Obiagu1

@ Onlytruth, believe me it changes nothing.
It does not worth developing cold feet.

I hear you my brother, but what do you say about our folks rushing off to build businesses anywhere but East?
What does it tell you about their TRUE feelings towards Biafra?

I was also deeply hurt by T.A Orji's action. That man may have single handedly killed the spirit of "onye aghala nwanne ya" which is the founding philosophy of Biafra.

It can also be nakwa apiako.

Posted by: Francis-1

Would it be ahazi as in nakwa ahazi? Or nakwa agbako?

I believe it is nakwa agbako! hehehe

Imo state is simply the heartland of Igboland. God bless Dee Sam Mbakwe and bless his lineage for ever. Amen.
lolz @ "Amadi Ikwecheghi nakwa echeki"

This is part 2 of the same song


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This lesson if part of why I'm developing cold feet about Biafra.

This thread is for my brother Obiagu1 and others who are debating our situation in Nigeria.
Obiagu1 please listen to the end. The main lesson starts from 08:45
Overall great music with strong political lesson.

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@Aigbofa

This is no firecracker in 1967

I wonder why this is peeking some folks. The man has the right to reject an award, doesn't he?
One guy even blamed Achebe for not being so visible in his village; I'm like duh the dude is crippled and does not have the leisure to walk around and participate in local politics. That is why he is living abroad. Life as an able bodied man in Nigeria is almost hell, talk less of a disabled man.
If you want to understand someone like Achebe, you have to share his experiences as a Nigerian.
He belongs in a different class of Nigerians who can never bend their moral ethos for anything or anyone.
More so, at his age, what can anyone give him or do to him?
The only thing he has intact is his integrity and legacy both of which he could lose if he is careless. He is not. lol
Live with it folks.

^^

hahaha! keep waiting. .

Posted by: hercules07

Dayo, Achebe is a living legend and deserves to be respected, I am amazed at the fact that he wrote Things fall apart in his 30s, he is a genius and should be celebrated.

I believe he wrote Things Fall Apart at the age of 27.
That was in 1958.

It means he is 80 this year (unless I'm wrong).

@lagcity

Please stop defending the indefensible. Since you people have forced us to share a dumb and deaf country, you would keep getting free lectures on sanity and logic.
Here is an example of how a great country does things.


"The formerly British Centurion was renamed "Sho't" (Scourge/Whip) by the Israelis and upgraded to meet their demands in modern warfare. [/b]When the Six-day War (1967) broke out, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) had 293 Centurion tanks that were ready for combat of total 385 tanks. During the war Israel captured 30 Centurion tanks from Jordan, when Jordan had only 44 Centurion tanks.
[b]The Israeli version of the Centurion earned its legendary status during the Battle of "The Valley of Tears" on the Golan Heights in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Less than 100 Centurion tanks of the 7th Armor Brigade defeated the advance of some 500 Syrian T-55s and T-62s. The Sho't became emblematic of Israeli armour prowess.


Original Centurions had 20 pounder main guns, these were quickly upgunned to the British 105 mm L7. [b]The vehicles went through a number of both major and minor modifications culminating in the Sho't with blazer package seen in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon and retired with honour during the 90's. [/b]The biggest modifications were the upgrade of the engine, sights and blazer packages.
The engine has been changed to a more efficient diesel engine, fire control has been modernised, armour has been thickened, and an improved ammunition layout allows more to be carried. An improved fire extinguishing system, better electrical system and brakes, and an increased fuel capacity complete the modifications. The Sh'ot can be distinguished from the Centurion by its raised rear deck, to accommodate the bigger engine. They either have the original 7.62 mm calibre on the commanders cupola or have it replaced by a 12.7 mm calibre HMG and American radios.
Many different variants were bought by Israel over the years from many different countries. Many components of this would find their way into the Merkava."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_tank

Biafran made main battle tank (circa 1967/68).

I don't think any African country has built a full main battle tank by 2011.

^^
I hope you enjoyed the lesson from a REAL EASTERNER.
You think all of us are foools.
Lick your wounds silently and leave us alone. Biafra did it (modified planes in 1967). Nigeria HAS NOT done so by 2011.
FACT OF HISTORY. End of story.

“Biafra Gin”

Home made Biafran Incendiary weapon produced by the Chemicals and Materials Workshop subsequently subsumed under the Research and Production (RAP) Organization. Used against federal personnel, defensive positions and armored vehicles.

@OP
In the movie "A few Good Men", the base commander character acted by Jack Nicholson told Tom Cruise's JAG character, "TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!".
Most Nigerians can't handle the truth.

Your post is unnecessary because no one is interested in your points, frankly.
You cannot love or hate Nigeria more than the facts representing Nigeria on the ground, NL or no NL. Never forget that we choose how we value things, be it nation or another human. Don't be downcast about unrepentant bigots whose section and tribes in Nigeria started tribalism and sectionalism in the 50s looooooooong before the internet. You are free to choose where to invest your love; afterall some human beings have kept pets which ended up killing and eating them. Also, never forget that even serial killers have women outside who admire them and send them flowers. Be wise.