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Okay, lets analyze Fashola first

What does he know about the North or East or South? What information is he equipped with?

@ekt_bear

Who would you pick ahead of Soludo in Nigeria, and why? Be frank.

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Anambra folks rejected PDP not Soludo. He was unfortunate. PDP has a VERY BAD image in Anambra at state and local level.

Funny country.
I want Nigerians to understand how simple this problem is, yet the wickedness of the Nigerian system makes it insoluble.
Simply forming of state police can solve this. But the politicians from even the same Borno state would fight against that idea, because they would rather be dying than allow that. If that is not wickedness I wonder what is.

But why is it that the North would fight against genuine progressive policy like state police?
What are they afraid of?
Can they tell me that a Borno state police would not be able to fish out all the sponsors of Boko Haram and jail them overnight?
What ever they are afraid of in state police has been overtaken by the deaths of thousands of innocent people, and there is no indication that more people won't die from more BK bombings.
Simply depressing.

The best president Nigeria can have in 2015 if the country doesn't break up is Charles Chukwuma Soludo.
He is the only Nigerian that has shown and demonstrated the vision of the true potential of Nigeria; and only he can design and implement that vision. He sees ALL the developmental problems, from extreme North to extreme South; extreme East to extreme West. He is unequaled and unparalleled.
Sanusi has almost completely reversed (in typical Northern fashion and tendency) all his achievements while governor of the CBN.

No other Nigeria even comes close to Soludo in terms of vision, energy, charisma, intelligence and versatility to launch that vision with a solid footing.

If Nigeria is not a funny country, he would be "conscripted" and crowned president at the expiration of GEJ presidency.
When some of us say we want that country disintegrated, it is because men like Soludo are never allowed, ( never allowed to implement their vision) or to take over the leadership of that country.
That should not go beyond 2015.

Words.
But when are we going to actually put them to action. When will our disunity end?
I think they should go and bring Gov TA Orji first. He is still missing!

Posted by: CyberG

Your opinion is useless here, maybe you can open yours to preach to the choir. Either you are as lazy, clueless and cowardly as your fellow tribalists (champions of NL e-wars) or you are too small to have seen any WAR action (not even university aluta) with MOPOL all over you. In either case, like I told your fellow tribalist (Dedendato >> Odenson), open a different thread and we will discus your funny flat nose, empty oblongota head and club-footedness like "Goebbels" - your role model.

Freaking coward.
You want people to come here and vomit all their life experiences to you so that you can feed your deranged "intents"?
But come to think of it, so you want civil war soldiers to come here and tell you how they killed other people? lmao.
Well, keep waiting. Shows how immature you are.
$hits on thread and moves on.

Stupid thread that can only be inspired by endemic cowardice.

Someone already called the thread "funny". He was being very charitable.
At the outbreak of the war, there were teenagers who had never seen a gun before, but who went on to make excellent soldiers once they were trained and marched to the front.

There are many civilians today who are FAR MORE COURAGEOUS than soldiers with many years of war experience.
It is all in the HEART, not in the head.

Mr Agina, please do you have lastest pictures of Nnewi roads? We need to blog the hell out of it and put fire under Obis @ss here. Thanks!

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I don't think he is the worst after all Anambra is among the most buoyant states in Nigeria. He has not acquired debts for us too. But he is a very vindictive man. A great governor should not keep political grudges. He punishes Nnewi town because Ngige beat him there during the last election. That is sad.

First it was Prof Chinualumogu Achebe. Now Femi Gbajabiamila (really tongue twisting name, phew!). But we are gradually producing men of principle who can stand above the lure of titles. This is big deal in Nigeria.
Kudos (whether he is playing politics or not). It ain't easy in naija.

This man is setting a standard in leadership that would be difficult for his successors to meet. What he is basically doing is to give a new definition and dimension to governorship, and to open the peoples' eyes to the real possibilities of Imo state using available resources. Anya ndi ori ga apu na akpa Imo steti mgbe na adighi anya. Lewe kwa anya!
At this stage, he is already approaching Dee Sam's levels; but lets just wait and continue praying silently for him.
Who says he can't be the best governor in Nigeria soon!
Well done bros.

I don't like Prof Tam David West, in fact I think he is a wasted genius. He is an intelligent man who failed to rise above hate of neighbor when it mattered most. Nevertheless I would share his views on Nigeria.
Here is what Prof Tam David West said about Nigeria in 2004; it is still very relevant today:


What workable system do you recommend for Nigeria in order to move forward?

DAVID-WEST: Let me say the unsayable. I advocate a confederation. I stick out my neck to say this. I have written about it; a confederation. Detractors of the system might complain that this is akin to The Satanic Verses. That is their business.


So, to go back to your recommendation of a confederation, sir…

DAVID-WEST: Why do I say we should adopt a confederation? In a true federation, the centre cannot be so powerful as to dictate to the federating units. What we have is not a federation. It is a monocracy, wearing the veneer of federalism. When Obasanjo can, like a schoolmaster, ask a state governor to do this or I’ll deal with you, to the extent of even sending soldiers to a party chairman to force him to resign, then it’s time to rethink our sad situation. Since we are unable to practice true federalism, we must then go confederate.

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/achebe-foundation/the-foundation-interviews-7-professor-tam-david-west.html

The main issue facing Nigeria in the year 2015 is really whether Nigeria will remain one or not. The more people talk about the North taking over, the more others are convinced about secession. The country is at a critical stage and I don't see how a Northern president can fix it. Most reasonable people would agree that the North did not give a good account of leadership from 1970 to 1999.

Even the short Yar adua period was marked by reversals of good policies put in place by Obasanjo. It seems like Nigeria's progress is opposite Northern interest.
Some of us are already well convinced that the only reasonable way forward for everybody is total disintegration of Nigeria so that different peoples of Nigeria can produce their kind of president, or the type of future they desire.

There are irreconcilable differences in interests in Nigeria.

alj_harem
Thanks for referring to the Fukushima nuclear disaster. Latest news is that it would take 30 years to retire the reactor. By that I know they meant "in a responsible way", like all first world countries do.
Now, imagine Nigeria trying to handle similar problem. Someone would simply handle it in a "fire brigade" way, thereby basically sweeping the mess under carpet until a bigger evil day shows up.

Any surprises here? Nigerian police constitute the single biggest threat to the safety of Nigerians.

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My sister I have to agree with you. Unless he has moved, Ikemba's house in Enugu is at Independence Layout Enugu; not GRA.

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My brother that your name is dicey o! WTF!

Posted by: Dede1

T A. Orji is a known marooned ingrate and had been declared political non grata in Igbo land. Actions such as sacking of non-indigenes in any state in Igbo land is sacrilegious act that must be resonated at the presence of the individuals that perpetrated such action throughout Igbo land.

I would have followed your line of political thought if Nigeria is an entity worthy of a second glance. We must reason beyond the dysfunctional state of Nigeria. If there is any political zone in the cesspit known as Nigeria with seven (7) states, there is no acceptable reason why southeastern zone should have five (5) states within the democratically setup Nigeria. Few of the so-called states in northern region of Nigeria constituted only one town yet it is a state to the jaundiced eyes of Nigerians.

And you would be 100% correct in your bolded points. But you see, we are still on the road to our empowerment, emancipation and "self determination" (to borrow from our SS brothers) in or out of Nigeria. I would paint a little picture.
Before last year or so, governors from the SE NEVER was able to meet COMPLETE. There was always one or two missing governors at every SE governors' meetings. And in each meeting, an important issue that would help SE be relevant in Nigeria is undermined.

With some stroke of luck, some Ojukwu and Ohanaeze magic, our governors started to meet complete. All 5 governors started to meet and issue statements, and the rest of Nigeria started to take us seriously!
Guess what? When Abia state started hatching this scheme, T.A Orji started dodging SE governors meetings! Deja vu all over again. He still misses the SE meetings because he is trying to avoid his brothers calling him to order.

Now, imagine if we have 7 states. How long do you think it would be before those new (barely viable) states start thinking that they must sack non-indigenes before they can pay minimum wage? Guess what again? Another deja vu!
So, yes I agree that if we are in Biafra, we can have as many states as we want. In Nigeria, it appears that it may even undermine our group strength. That is why Akwa Ibom state has a new functional International Airport, while we still don't have any in SE.

Posted by: ChinenyeN

Onlytruth, you should really put your words into perspective. With the way you are responding, I don't even know if you understand that you are essentially doing nothing more than creating unnecessary victims of circumstance. You're statement of "Abians are fools" is a foolish statement indeed. Abia is a construct that could have been fashioned in any, way shape or form, but as fate would have it, Abia consists of Aba province, Old Bende, and some Okigwe division. For all we know, fate could have had it that Abia would have consisted of Orumba LGA's some Enugu, and Okigwe division, or any other arbitrary combination. So what is "Abia state"? If Abia had consisted of Orumba LGA's, some Enugu and Okigwe division, abi then this arbitrary collection of people would then be the "Abian fools" that you're referring to, and then you would be shouting, let us punish "Abia state". Put your words into perspective. Every one of us here is older than the construct called "Abia state".

I am putting EVERYTHING into consideration in my comments. I would rather that a single Igbo state's ego- such as Abia state's ego- is bruised, than for Ndigbo as a group to keep suffering and dying in the Nigerian jungle. You make it seem as if I'm singling out particular Igbo groups for reprimand. That is FAR from it!

I would say the same thing today if Anambra or any other Igbo state did it. If Nnewi is in Abia today (never mind Orumba) , I would be leading the same charge against Peter Obi the same way, and I would have people like Dr Dozie Ikedife doing the same in ways that must  yield results whether the governor likes it or not. Anambra motto before was "Home for all" before it was changed to "light of the Nation". So, don't make it seem like I am singling out Abia state. When was the last time I condemned Abia state for anything here? This issue hurt deeply and has set us back many years.
And you guys keep talking about "punishment". I used it glibly. I never meant "punish Abia State". I meant that Abia state people in other Igbo states may be paid in the same coin. Where does that lead us as a group?

Posted by: lagerwhenindoubt

I have it in confidence from a chief confidant of the President His Excellency Jonathan Goodluck Eebele that Reno Omokri is not Beaf, however The Office of The Presidency has been monitoring Beaf's Pro-GEJ activities on Nairaland and has decided to conscript him into his secret team of Anti-ACN strategist in a 2-pronged Strategic Annihilation of Political Rascals online and offline.

Operation Remove BAT remaining functional eye

This is deemed high-priority for the time being. A well-known drug-pusher and cocaine addict, also known as the unelected Leader of the Oduduwa nation has been a prickly thorn in the feet some political giants in Nigeria Grin
Operation Remove AREGBS bear-bear A well-know serial-slapper that must be stopped by any means necessary.

lol. I told them here that Beaf is not Reno. Some called me names. SMH.
I may not know Beaf in real life; I know Reno.
Apart from the fact that they are from different tribes in Delta State, Reno would NEVER say some of what Beaf says here on/off Nairaland. But what do I know. lol.

@topic,

"Sacked Imo state indigenes Storm Owerri Govt House"; the last time it was "Sacked Anambra indigenes Storm Awka Govt House". I believe the same thing happened in Ebonyi and maybe Enugu. I don't want to mention Asaba for now.

For as far back as I can remember, all leaders of Ndigbo have endlessly harped on "Igbo unity" as the only solution to our survival in Nigeria.

To see anyone come here with a straight-face to defend an action tearing that unity to pieces is simply mind boggling. For me, you can NEVER do what you never preached. Simple.
If Igbo unity begins and ends in my family, then I must be the biggest fool on earth.

Posted by: FACE

I can't believe I got caught in a web arguing with a grown up with a child's mentality, who thinks that empty boasts make a man.  You really think that you are more concerned about Igbo unity and probably more Igbo than others. O dikwa ihe m na agaghi inu na naira land ?

I would have advised you to back up your talks with some good walks, but you don't even talk a good game, so how can you walk it ?

I am fair minded and I never judge groups and that is why you don't see me engaging in ethnocentric mud slinging. I only defend my own from your type, when I feel like it, but I don't let your type drag me down to their level. You can talk all the talk, but when jungle mature, we go know who be who.

Only people with mob animal instincts would blame the actions of a few on a whole group. I asked you to juxtapose the notion of many Nigerians from other ethnic groups regarding 1966 coup with your position on Orji/Abians and you failed to tell the difference.

Obviously, you thrive on stereotypes so this is my last chat with you. Goodluck.

Every bolded points above is exactly why I decided to take on this issue. You got it all mixed up in your warped head! Nwokem imakwa ihe ma ncha? Chei!

Dude, you take yourself too seriously! Like you are the only one reading this thread!

Most of what I have to say here are not targeting those who can't think. They are reaching intelligent people and some of them are echoing my views in newspaper columns in Nigeria. So, you are infinitesimal and irrelevant.

I was NOT arguing with you. Reread my posts and you would see that I was simply stating my points. You decided to take it personal. BTW, I chose strong words and deliberately chose the entire state, because TA Orji is one man. He has advisers. The lamest excuse is to say that Abians had no say in his actions.

I have to open up a little, lest folks start believing your rants.

Posted by: Dede1

Bro, do let the stupidity of T A. Orji becloud your well-informed social order. Democracy is a system that defiantly hinges on numbers and sense of equality and justice. Most of the so-called political zones have six or seven states while south-seat zone has only five. Based on the old fact that majority carries the day in the present political dispensation in Nigeria, it is absolutely necessary for south-eastern zone to produce the same number of senators as northwest zone that has seven states.

My brother, normally I would agree with you on the bolded words.
But our recent experience with Abia state has opened my eyes in a very big way. I now understand why Enugu International Airport has been a butt of politics from other Nigerians. Enugu did something similar in the past, and I am sure other Igbos are not as enthusiastic in supporting a resurgent Enugu. Meanwhile, I have to continue flying into Lagos or Abuja because of some stupid Igbo people at home.
I was reading where they listed some possible new states, and I saw that some of my beloved towns in Anambra might be carved into some new state. I became alarmed because Enugu/Abia state stupidity can repeat there. Now tell me, what do you prefer first? Some extra state that undermine our group strenghth forcing us to eat humble pie at every turn, or a strong united group? For me, there isn't even a question about my choice. Let them take the states elsewhere. I want a strong Igbo that can attract international airport and other economically viable federal presence.

Posted by: FACE

Just like you would like your own history of distortion to affect all Abians. An honest man knows that individuals are to be blamed for their actions not groups.

Some rants like:

Another childish and empty threat. Learn to lay your blames at the right door steps. When the chips are down, we will know what's up.

For all reasonable people here, What Orji did was wrong and without human face and I think that the victims should take Abia govt to court for violating their rights to work in any part of the federation. However, only a dumb person would shift the blame to FACE, his family and other Abians.

If you truly believe that this action will not affect all Abians, then your naivety knows no bounds. You keep referring to my point on this as "childish", and I keep laughing because even some kids have historically led oldest men and gave them great insights into the realities of life. Some of the leaders of the most powerful countries in the world today are not the oldest. So I can understand if you are unable to read the tealeaves and "know whats up". If you are hurt by my haranguing of Abia state, you know the way to Umuahia. Don't blame the wrong guy. If Abia state is not in SE, I would not give a damn. That is why you've never seen me trying to convince people who deny being Igbo otherwise. If there is only Anambra, or even my family alone as Igbo, I would happily take it. I want to  be able to take pride in my tribe as a smart group. You say you are against it, and then you come here to make a couple of posts, go home and open a bottle of beer, and chuckle. 
I repeat,  no single Igbo group gains more from Igbo unity. We all gain.
And anybody or group of Igbo (Abia state in this instance) that undermine it in any way are foools. 
T.A. Orji alone is NOT Abia state. He has people around him. Where are they all?

So, lets just say that they were both seriously delusional.

"In his own testimony on the debacle, Biafran Commander, 12th Battallion of the 101 Brigade, Col. Mike Ivenso noted that the objective of the Biafran regime was at variance with the objective of the commander, Victor Banjo. "For example, after the 12th Battalion had captured Auchi and exploited further beyond Auchi and Okene, my next line of action was either a kind of hook toward Lokoja or a left flank toward Ilorin," Ivenso testified. "The objective would be like forming a wedge for the North,  That was my position until the divisional commander Brigadier Banjo invited me. He gave me the roughest edge of his tongue with his finger caressing the pistol in his belt. He lambasted me for taking Okene and ordered me to pull back to Auchi, which we did."

[b]Former Minister of the Navy, Chief J.O.G. Onyia in his own experience disclosed that Col. Banjo had become overwhelmed with disappointment. "He regretted that Chief Obafemi Awolowo had taken sides with Northerners," explained Onyia. "He wondered what the chief had to gain. He had joined Col. Ojukwu's army primarily to liberate the Yorubas and Southerners in general. [/b]He was, therefore, contemplating to pull back to Enugu. But, he had exposed the Midwesterners to great dangers. He was under obligation to defend them. I queried why he did not go through Ajaokuta, Okene, Kabba into Yoruba nation. Vicktor was a silent man when I left him on Monday the 14th of August in Benin 1967."

By that time, the Biafran Expeditionary Force had lost steam. Perpetually in retreat, the disorganized army accosted a civilian mob in Benin. Here many miles away from their forward locations in Ore, this frustrated army was suddenly visited by an inexplicable epidemic. Soldiers were perambulating on swollen stomachs as a result of poisoned rations, served to them by hostile natives. This mystic ailment was the last straw, the end of the road. Eventhough they were disappointed, having been denied action in the battlefield, they would have preferred the soldier's death in the trenches.

From that Benin to Asaba was, therefore, a flight of the desperados. Like the French General, Charles De Gaulle, after the surrender of Paris to the German Panza Division, Banjo was a General without an army! "

Nzeogwu never wanted secession. I think Ifeajuna wanted to complete the January 66 coup and impose his political regime.

"Compared to Banjo who abandoned boat, Ifeajuna was a true rebel who was ready to sacrifice his friends, his commander, his family if only his red new order could prevail. In fact, Colonels Victor Banjo and Emmanuel Ifeajuna believed in their unfinished dreams on January 15, 1966.

They believed in Nigerian unity and were opposed to any form of secession. Their secret objective was to secure support from the West with the ultimate goal of marching down to Lagos and Enugu to sack General Gowon and Ojukwu."

http://news.biafranigeriaworld.com/archive/ngguardian/2002/nov/09/article16.html

Imagine tomorrow if Ihiala and Orumba from my own backyard in Nnewi are carved into "Etiti" or other states, suddenly my people working in that state will be asked to go back to Anambra state. Meanwhile current Anambra governor is not from that area and he has been developing that area with the hope that all Anambra would benefit.

I am against creation of extra states in Igboland. 
We can survive without Nigeria handouts. Only lazy people wait for Abuja handouts!

Posted by: ezeagu

From the above argument it seems Igbo states are becoming ethnic groups. Since when does the governor of New York, for example, "punish" the state of Pennsylvania for a law passed.

That is why I finally decided to drop my support for extra states in Igboland. The only state I support now is Anioma state. The reason is self evident. In fact creation of extra states in Igboland now is as good as war strategy against us. I don't care if the rest of Nigeria cheat us with their numerous states. Some things go viral quickly in Igboland. Quite unfortunate.

Posted by: FACE

Chinenye said that he does not support Orji and some people are busy arguing with him as if they have mind reading abilities.

Someone made bold to call Abians fools and I objected, he came back and called all Abians FOOLS and feels cool about it. He thinks that all Abians are scheming to treat non Abians unfairly, even when one person (Orji) is responsible for the unfair treatment.

All well and good, what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, so I make bold to say that if all non Abian Ndi Igbo do not condemn the blanket bad mouthing of innocent Abians for the actions of Orji, let no one complain when other Nigerians assert that 1966 coup was an Igbo coup aimed at Igbo domination.

Onlytruth, going forward, you no longer have any moral grounds to dispute that 1966 coup was not carried out by Igbo with the aim of Igbo domination or to argue that the slaughter that followed was not caused by the victims. Lie on the bed you have made.

Your point was lost in between the bolded words.
I believe that every follower of history is entitled to read what happened in 1966 anyway he/she wants. It doesn't pay Onlytruth any benefit to view it my way. The last time I checked the history (or distortion of it) affects ALL Igbos.
I have always warned that no Igbo group benefits more from Igbo unity. EVERY Igbo gains from it. I may feel strongly about it because I know it is avoidable this time. It doesn't mean it hurt me more. It probably would at the end hurt Abians more.
Like someone pointed out already, I'm yet to see Abians rejecting the jobs vacated by other Igbos.
I became more alarmed when I learned that about 2000 Anambra citizens were affected by this. I then put myself in Peter Obis shoes and it dawned on me that there is no way this would go unpunished. What then are we talking about as Igbo if we are doing this to ourselves? Nna please take your reprimand elsewhere. 

Abia has failed Ndigbo terribly. And when the "ufu na ebu okuko" comes to ra-pe Ndigbo, we will remember that Abia contributed handsomely to our weakness as a group.

I wonder what it would have cost Ojukwu to simply call Gowon before the beginning of hostilities to bow down to him and play dead. He would probably have been retired from the army and join his fathers huge company and make all the money he wants.
But, you need to read about the events of July to October 1966 to understand why Igbos respect Ojukwu for leading them to war even if they lost. The killing of Igbos and Easterners in the military would not have stopped. Never.
The man's life is a proof that honor is far more valuable than money. He is our icon.

Yes, and he was among the first Igbos whose actions introduced the term "sabo" into the Biafran language then.
Sabo stayed active throughout the war.

I see some of them whose fathers played that role then coming here to attack and insult Ojukwu.