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Posted by: Obiagu1

I don't know if anyone paid attention to the last song in part B from 12.29.
This is the second time I've heard Biafran soldiers singing that song.

E woo, mu na nwanne m jere ogu, akpiri ago, Ifeajuna lele anyi,
E woo, mu na nwanne m jere ogu, Nzeogu aputa n'uzo lee nwanne.
(Meaning, Ifeajuna and Nzeogu betrayed their brothers)


Is it because of the coup they carried out or the war itself?
Does anyone know?

Yes is was!
I think Ifeajuna wanted to topple Ojukwu in a coup, and Nzeogwu never really supported secession.
Both ended up as snags to Biafra's march forward. Imagine fighting a civil war and worrying about coup.
That is why Ojuwku was very security conscious during the war. He was hunted by Nigerians who were seeking to drop bombs on his hideout, and some compromised Igbos. It wasn't an easy war.
I still wonder how Ojukwu was able to fight that war. There was too much treachery and sabotage.
It was by far easier for him not to even bother about starting the war. But Easterners pushed him to war. When it started, some of them started to sabotage him from day one, trying to kill him. 

I still see such characters here on Nairaland.

^^
You still working on that Ph.D?
Goodluck. hehe!

Posted by: realchange

i think you completely misunderstood onlytruth.
I think he meant: Silva -governorship of Bayelsa , Jonathan -Presidency of Nigeria. even a fool knows that Silva is not going for presidency, so what are you talking about? silva may want to hide under APGA because efcc may go after him soon. i don't think apga will accept him tho.

Thanks a million!

ndu_chucks,
Thanks for infecting poor Ileke-IdI with stupidity virus. E no go beta for you.
I hope you know say she dey pregnant. Shameless man.

Posted by: *Ileke-IdI

Please re-read Onlytruth's post from the beginning on this thread.
And why should APGA worry if GEJ comes after Silva, if Silva is found of any wrong doing? What are you implying that APGA here?

Ileke-IdI you fail me seriously! Is this how you'll get that Ph.D?
Did you recently kiss Bluetooth, Seanet or worse ndu_chucks?
I hope you know that stupidity is a virus (like rabies) spread mainly through kissing and biting. 

Who in his right senses thinks of a Silva presidential bid? You mean another Ijaw to replace GEJ?
Where are other Nigerians? 

Girl, please I meant Silva gubernatorial ambitions. He, like all the rest of them needs a second term, doesn't he?
Why is he lamenting because PDP dropped him?

Girl stay miles away from all these carriers of stupidity virus!   

Posted by: *Ileke-IdI

OASN, OnlyTruth, there is nothing logical in what you assumed is going on here. I'd think that APGA would present better candidate (Okorocha) for 2015. Why would they take offense to GEJ going after Silva?

If my memory serves me right, didnt GEJ promise to step down for the SE region in 2015? So what's the fear and worry about?

You see why a woman has never won Nigerian presidency. Y'all are still slow to catch up with the "man game" of politics.

Posted by: *Ileke-IdI

Me, I just love how you try to see logic where there is no logic, for self or group perseverance.

My logic is usually not for pedestrians.  

^

You support this and you know it! You've been eyeing Aba for ever here. Just be ready for what you have preached!
Nonsense.

If he actually moves to APGA, he is effectively beating GEJ to his own major base. GEJ won't go after him with similar vigor because if he does, he risks being dumped by Ndigbo. Simple logic. The only way GEJ can still go after him is if he has no 2015 ambition.
If this is true, then, this Silva dude is a genius. 

Posted by: ChinenyeN

I'm waiting to see this happen.

You may well see it happen because no sane Anambra person would accept a single Abian in Anambra govt employ if 2000 Anambra workers were thrown out of Abia state. I expect the same from other Igbo states, and non-Igbo states because those non-Igbo states are waiting for Igbo states to descend on Abians first before they swing to action.

Like I said before, I know where Abia state is heading with this, but they should be prepared for a permanent damage to Igbo unity and brotherhood. If they are eyeing Aba for other assets, we are eyeing Onitsha, Enugu, Owerri, Abakaliki and Nnewi for Abia citizens assets too.
And yes I will repeat it again, ABIANS ARE FOOLS.
There is no way anyone would successfully implement such a dumb and slow exercise in Anambra state at this critical time in Igbo unity project. Where have they been all these years when they were purportedly sacked from other states (which I really doubt!).
I strongly believe that this exercise enjoys the support of majority of Abia state citizens (represented by this slow guy here called ChinenyeN) , that is why you haven't heard any of their heavyweight politicians make any statement concerning this.

If he joins APGA, it means that Jonathan has a 2015 presidential ambition. So, Silva is trying to beat him to the Igbo base. Sort of yoking himself to Jonathan's ambition. He is saying "We win together or we sink together!" Pure genius! 

To imagine that an adult pilot could circle food distribution centers for kids and drop bombs there is simply animalistic.
A true son of Igboland would NEVER do that even if it means losing the war.
Foreigners can easily identify Nigerian groups by their various value systems.
I just love being Igbo. 

Okija_juju

I'm sure there is a local juju in your part of Rivers state. Why not change your name to that.
I know you did not know that people ran to and hid at alusi forests in Igboland while your Nigerian planes bombed indiscriminately. Change your name to one of your own juju there. Stop insulting Okija people and their famous alusi.  
Change your name to "Rivers_juju". lol

I thought they said Ojukwu was starving Biafran children to death. Now we know that the Nigerians were targeting food distribution centers where Biafran kids were getting their single ration per day.
Dark hearts.

^^
Not if they have poor work ethics, always on strike and always complaining.

I meela Ojukwu I meela! Ezigbo nwa Biafra imeela! Deme deme deme!

Happy birthday to the great lion of Biafra!

I suspect where Orji and Abians are going with this thinking. But if other Igbo states retaliate fully, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in Abia more than in other Igbo states.

I'm shocked at the stupidity of Abia state.

ChinenyeN, you haven't heard other Igbo states because they are smarter than Abians!

Meanwhile this is what a smart Abian living in Ebonyi state said:


T.A Orji warned on historical implications of sack of non-natives
•Reminded that ‘Aro’ people could be sent packing to Abia

An Ebonyi State based public affairs analyst and politician, Chief Bekee Orji has warned Governor Theodore Orji of Abia State on the historical implications of his recent action against non Abia natives in the state civil service, urging him to retrace his step.

Bekee Orji, who hails from Isuochi, Abia State but has lived in Ebonyi State all his life, noted that from a recent comment by a commissioner, “it is as if the action is a sort of vengeance; based on that, I do not know if the Abia State Government understands the implication of what they have done.”

He reminded the governor that the populous Aro people, found in every part of Igboland and beyond were Abia natives, who might be sent packing, because of his action, by their host states.

Said he: “You can imagine what happens if Enugu, Imo, Ebonyi, Anambra decide to sack the Aro people, who are found everywhere. If they want to say non-natives should go, then half of Anambra may have to return to Abia; one quarter of Ebonyi will return to Abia.”

He stressed that most of the Aro people, who still traced their origin to Arochukwu were all non-natives of Anambra; “the same thing in Imo, Bayelsa, Ebonyi and what have you.
“I would have loved the man to let the sleeping dog lie. I am from Abia; I have lived here in Ebonyi all my life and I know how sensitive these issues are and its probable consequences.”
Chief Bekee Orji called on the Abia State governor to resign his position or better to retrace his steps instead of taking the route.

“He will not know what could happen to him and his family with time; he will not be governor forever. Something happened sometime and you did not deem it fit to react that time; if he refuses to listen to advice, he will only end up suffering people from in and around the South-east.

“I am not speaking for other states to take such an action but to remind the Abia State Government of what it may not have considered before embarking on that costly journey of sacking fellow Igbos from his state.
“The consequences of that action are something I will not want to witness, neither will I want to partake in the repercussions. A word they say is enough for the wise.”

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/nov/02/national-02-11-2011-0026.html

Posted by: ndu_chucks

I laugh in Abriba. You people want a list of names of your oppressors ko? I'm afraid if you people do not yet know who your oppressors are, then you deserve to be oppressed and to remain in that state perpetually. You keep saying that I want to killing your oppressors and you want me to name them abi? Its too early in the week and I don't have time to educate dullards who would interprete the statement that you have to get rid of your oppressors before you can progress, to mean that I want to kill them all. I asked you non violent people to come up with other ways of disabling them, but you are too dumb to come up with ideas.

You people remind me of a man who's wife is r.aped on a daily basis by people known to the whole community, and instead of taking corrective measures, he asks people who suggest to him to get rid of the rapists one way or another, for a list of those rapists. With this kind of attitude, I'm afraid you people will remain oppressed for quite a long time.

[size=16pt]Bloody racist tribalists, you are.[/size]

Yes, you called for killing of thousands of Nigerians to achieve your nirvana. Don't tell me you are this cowardly not to accept what you just said a little while earlier.
Poor ndu_chucks! He'd been rapped by his "masters" about the import of his statement. Now he is retracting his words with his tail between his legs licking his wounds. We heard you loud and clear. Just draw up the list jare!
But you can't, because the list -if drawn fairly- will be heavily populated by your brothers -the "bloody racists and tribalists" who destroyed Africa's potential giant just because they consider other Nigerians "unbelievers" and inferiors.
Shame on all of you!

^^

I may not agree with recolonization, but everything else describes Nigeria.

But naija guys can construct elegant English mehn!

I had to post this comment by a reader - Darlington_Ehondor


RE-COLONIZATION IS OUR MEDICINE, BECAUSE IT WILL BE CURATIVE

Incontrovertible fact: Nigeria is an abberation and a diabolical illusion. Abberations are wholesale distortions of normality. Illusions are delusive wishful thinking, the idea that dreams, including nightmares, can be assumed to be reflections of a more noble reality. In Nigeria's particular case, both phenomena converge at a critical confluence to perpetuate the atrocious, overwhelmingly abnormal state that is Nigeria's reality. The distortion is a hedious one, therefore. Despite our wild, self-deluding assumptions about Nigeria being a normal, comparably civilized society - alarmingly, some even dress it in stolen robes by christening it a "nation" - our country is actually not a country at all. It is a wholesale, viciously unorganized jungle, where official irresponsibility seeps into the bowels of society to create and sustain pure barbarism.

So, Nigeria is a nightmare. It is a nightmare of unrivalled, unprecedented, unduplicated - let alone replicated - proportions. No other country on God's green earth is, or will be, a mirror image of Nigeria. Nigeria is a unique contraption, and that is by no means a compliment. Not even Burkina Faso, a country the size and economic capacity of a mere local government in Nigeria, is capable of Nigeria's kind of barbarous existence. Recently, the World Bank announced the names of four African countries with the demonstable potential to achieve the famed millennium goals by 2020, ironically, Nigeria's catechismal year of "development." Cape Verde, another minuscule African country, made the list. Nigeria, the self-proclaimed, extravagantly delusive "giant of Africa," didn't. Why was that?

This is why: Nigeria's potential was abolished when the hedious political class conspired to rape, plunder and pillage it with demonic incontinence. The hediousness was exacerbated by the constipating gluttony of the political elite and has remained the blight of society. The colonial regime bequeathed to that diabolical class a country that largely worked, a country where government touched the common folk in a way we can only dream of today. The little things that mattered worked in favor of society: we had schools that ran, hospitals that worked, public transportation systems that transported the public, even post masters that cycled to your doorstep every morning bearing letters. Essentially, society functioned in a largely acceptable, commendable manner. Once upon a time, all of it evaporated.

It is why Nigeria's "federalism" is no federalism at all. It is why, under that offensively abnormal "federalism" the "federal government" is this humungous behemoth with a continuously expanding power structure, incrementally stragulating state governments out of consequence. But we could restore the old social dignity by acquiring the discipline and the humility to do what we so desperately need: capitulate to failure and grab for re-colonization. You only need to experience British society to understand the enormity of Nigeria's social backwardness, as well as the urgency of recolonization. It is not a placebo, but a potent medicine because it will be curative. Let anyone argue that.

Imagine Jubril Aminu's solution. Chai!

[size=18pt]Create regions, abolish states, LGAs[/size]


We have had two completed transitions from military to civilian regimes in 1979 and 1999. Both were written by panels appointed by the military, which put the constitutional documents in the shape the military wanted before handing over to the civilians. The 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (which is merely an amendment of the 1979 document) is generally seen as anything but the people’s constitution. Many legal opinions have dismissed its preamble of “We, the People of the Federal Republic of Nigeria: HAVING firmly and solemnly resolved….” as a lie.

The military thus handed over to Nigerians a constitution that favoured the interests of the dominant section of the military establishment, which favoured a strong centre and weak peripheries. The section of the country that dominated the military also imposed a fake majority status upon themselves, ensuring that their part of the country would continue to have the upper hand in terms of representation in the National Assembly and revenue allocation.

Constitutional order

The North, having taken the lion’s share, gave the second spot to the West in gratitude for their role in stopping the East from seceding with their oil resources. They left a constitutional order that would be almost impossible to change through democratic, peaceful means, since those favoured by it would always be there to use their “majority” votes in the National Assembly to block any attempt to bring about democratic change.

The current financial crisis facing many states in the federation owes to the dependency syndrome which the constitution we operate has foisted on the federating units. The states depend on the monthly federal allocations for (in most cases) up to 95 per cent of funds to run their governments. Many states have ground to a halt after the Federation Accounts Allocation Committee, FAAC, was unable to share money for the current month.

When the civil war ended in 1970, the new ruling class, in their celebration of victory, started a consumption binge built upon the oil wealth of the country. It soon became a national trend and today, recurrent expenditure takes about 75 per cent of the annual budget of the federation and most of the states. Outside the monthly federal allocations, only Lagos State might be able to continue to function. The cost of governance has gone through the roof. There is little left to develop the country. In other words, the military class left us with a legacy of a Federal Government unable to develop the country, states economically unviable and local councils totally irrelevant in the lives of the citizens.

It is my considered opinion that Nigeria will never move forward unless we, the genuine people of Nigeria, restructure our federalism order. Many perspectives have been proffered as the way toward achieving a more workable arrangement.

The Obafemi Awolowo school of thought wants a federation based on ethnic groups or nationalities, a framework that the late Anthony Enahoro’s Movement for National Reformation, MNR, tried to work out. Their failure to satisfactorily classify the ethnic configurations only confirmed it as a mere academic exercise, since most ethnic groups in the country are not what they seem.

Another perspective was brought forward by the General Ibrahim Babangida regime, which tried to make the local government tier of government autonomous from the states. That arrangement has also been proved a failure after 12 years of experimentation.

The joint state/local government accounts put the latter in the pocket of the state governors. Also, no election into that “tier” of governance has produced a credible, democratic outcome. Governors routinely ignore constitutional provisions and dissolve local administrations at will (elected ones inclusive) and most local councils are run by sole administrators appointed by the governors. The local councils are unable to provide the people the most basic of needs.

Professor Jibril Aminu’s own idea of a perfect federation is one in which the centre is made even more powerful that it currently obtains in Nigeria. In his many papers on the subject, he calls for the abolition of the states, leaving only two tiers of government: the federal and local councils.

Alternatively, as many states as possible should be created because, according to him, the more states are created the weaker they are and the stronger the centre is. In his view, Nigeria requires a super-powerful centre to protect the citizens from their greedy and oppressive local elite and to ensure the no part of the country is strong enough to break up the federation.

Constitutional conference

I tend to gravitate more towards the Dr Alex Ekwueme formula which he tendered at the Constitutional Conference convened by the late General Sani Abacha in 1994-1995. It was that argument that led to the approval of the six geopolitical zones which, however, have never been reflected in any of our constitutions. I, however, differ from the Ekwueme blueprint in that I would like the states and local councils to be phased out. Let us have two tiers of government: the federal and six regional governments. It will be up to the various regions to decide how they take government closer to the people.

The Arewa North regions (North East, North West) may opt for emirates/districts/villages structure. The West might want to retain the local government system. The South East and South/South are likely to opt for county or community councils. These suggestions are based on what is already obtainable in these respective areas.

The current state and local government system can never produce good results. The Igbo nation is cheated under this arrangement, while the North and West have more than their share. This was an arrangement that came after the civil war was lost and won and the booties of war shared. The Constitution was created by the military to consecrate this arrangement as a permanent feature of the Nigerian federation to perpetuate injustice, indolence, parasitism, sectional arrogance and corruption.

And these are the reasons that Nigeria is a backward, poverty-stricken, violence-wracked and unmanageable civic entity. It cannot be cured through creation of more states or local governments. This will further increase the cost of governance and promote stagnation.

The way forward is radical, even revolutionary. But it is the only peaceful and viable way forward.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/create-regions-abolish-states-lgas/

Posted by: ndu_chucks

I’d suggest that you take GenBuhari’s advise very seriously – your tribalism and bigotry is doing more damage to your brain than you realize.
I made a very obvious point but you decided to ignore the accuracy of my statement but decided to introduce tribalism into your analysis. This is why you have become incapable of seeing reason. For your information, I’d welcome any leader who would lead the fight to rid us of the said “owners” of Nigeria with open arms regardless of his tribe. To your question about installing an Igbo as president, my answer is why not, if he/she is qualified and detribalized enough to move us forward. Such an Igbo person could probably be found with deep roots in the West or North. I’m afraid that by definition, those of you who grew up solely in the East and who lack a broad horizon, are out of the question. The Presidency is not a head hunting affair.

As always you would prefer to dodge the question and pretend to be detribalised but we know better. lol.
You first called for mass culling (killing) of thousands of owners of Nigeria, and then set out to exclude one of the prime suspects because he is from your North! So, I double dare you to make up the list of those owners of Nigeria as challenged by Beaf.

I also laugh when you say that Nigerians who have never been outside of their own region should not be trusted with Nigerian presidency. How many years did Tafawa Balewa, Gowon, Murtala, Shagari,Buhari, IBB, Abacha and Adulsalami spend outside of Northern Nigeria before they became Nigerian president?  Ironically, the only Southerners who has led Nigeria all speak Hausa fluently. Can any of your Northern presidents speak Igbo? 
In education, your region makes us look like Somalia, and yet want to produce presidents, when we have people who can lead first world countries in Southern Nigeria. You see how dishonest you are?

So I ask you again, who do you plan to kill for Nigeria to move forward?

hahahaha! spin masters at work. Show us the money!

Posted by: arsenefc

In Biochem from Unilag [/b]and Ph.D from a shyyty University in the UK? I attended his sermons on numerous occasions for kicks at Onike. [b]Very devious man.

lol. So first class in Biochem from Unilag (back when education was serious in Nigeria) is not a big deal? lol.
All I know is that he has inspired a lot of people and is a good Nigerian ambassador. He also makes his money from his books, not church money. He writes profusely. Like I said, he could have chosen to go into other sectors and would have thrived there too. How many Nigerian first class materials from back in the day are begging for food?
I won't call him a devious man. lol. You may not be a Christian, but please thread softly when you discuss folks working for God. We can agree to disagree gracefully. hehe!  

@topic,

I'm talking about Nigerians who, whenever I feel like regretting that I'm a Nigerian, and I remember them, I calm down again and smile.

Posted by: arsenefc

Olukoya is Yoruba BTW.

He is a thief like rest of them.

A big capitalist who thrives on the fears of his congregation.

His sermons are always of what happens in the supernatural. He makes his money by scaring the shyyt outta his congregation. I used to laugh my side to stupor when I see his ediot congregation donating money to his made up causes. I dont know who I dislike more, him or Adeboye. Both are big time crooks!

I bet you don't know that he had first class in University, and is a brilliant man who chose to use his talents to serve God.
If he isn't a pastor today, he could as well be one of the leaders of Nigeria's top companies. I never praise empty barrels. This man is something in his own class. 
BTW I believe God has his own business. 

For me, the following come to mind:

Courage
Patriotism
Class
Brilliance
Innovative
Determined

Do you know this man? What comes to mind whenever you look at him?

Posted by: NRI PRIEST

Kaduna nzeogwu
Chinua achebe
Ikemba nnewi
Chris okigbo

Thank you!

+ Col Abubakar Dangiwa Umar  

+ Dr Daniel K. Olukoya (go find out about this guy folks!).  

ndu_chucks I'm still waiting for your opinion on what I shared with you. Do you think anyone in the South can try what you are suggesting and get away with it? If not, what are your brothers waiting for?