₦airaland Forum

Does anyone have some figures? If it is true that Obi is leading, how did he rig it in real time?
My candidate is Ngige, but I would support the wishes of my people if Obi wins. I would advise all Anambra man/woman to do the same.

RichyBlacK:
Does the Nigerian Police Force have an Anti-Juju Unit trained to dispose of objects, like this coffin, placed by hopelessly silly "juju believers" trying to intimidate the public?

This is the same question I was asking myself. How come all these jujus don't work on the police? Ndi Polisi abu isi ekwe onwu?
How come they simply marched into the notorious Okija shrine and sacked the place with all the human remains in tow?
To cap it all, these cops don't even think twice before removing these things and NOTHING HAPPENS to them. Nonsense!
For once I would say a huge thank you to the Nigeria police.

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chosen04:
Are are not inviting a saboteur into our fold? hahahahahaha

My sister, you think I never thought of that? Of course I did. However, I have absolute confidence in my sisters. They cannot be intimidated by any man in the universe. You know this fact already. It took one Igbo woman named Mariam to bring the capital of Delta state to Asaba. The babe wey I go give Sefago go bring the capital of Oduduwa to Enugu or Owerri.

SEFAGO:
There are more igbos in america than any ethnic group- thats common knowledge. However, I have met more Yoruba people because basically my family just hang out with yoruba so we really dont get invited to any igbo social events- I would come if I wa sinvited

You don't need to be invited to attend any Igbo events here. Maybe your family is carrying over the naija mindset, that is why you only mix up with your tribe. I have attended many "Owambe" parties here. You are invited anyday to my Nnewi parties, with one caveat though- if you must marry our babe, you must "naturalize" and become a full fledged Igboman Swell our ranks, so to say.

Sunshine87:
The OP pointed at the fact that Niigbo in Nigeria are purposely undercounted, Im seriously tired of hearing the political action taken abroad rathern than Nigeria.

I dont know if anyone was thinking about committing a crime in Nigeria or abroad. Everyone feels more equal when their ethnic group or region is on the political scene in Nigeria.

just my opinion no one should jump down my throat, all im saying is I want to hear more about igbo political activity in Nigeria and not abroad.

The US census is a once a decade event. This means that if you miss this chance to be counted (if you live here), your next chance will be in 2020.

This call goes out to Ndiigbo in the US, not those planning to migrate out of Nigeria. Anyone can form similar organization in Nigeria or wherever they live to achieve the same result. Nothing prevents Ndiigbo in Nigeria from achieving similar mobilization.

Like the announcer said, this is an "onye kwe, chi ya ekwe" moment. The US is a land of equal opportunities. Don't limit yourself.

The US is the most important country in the world. When you are well represented here, you can do a lot of things in Nigeria. You may not believe it but it is fact.

Please don't confuse the issues and weaken the true import of this exercise. Thanks.

Umu-nnem na umu-nnam, this is an "onye kwe chi ya ekwe" moment. If a majority of us check these 2 all important boxes in the forms, it will signal the re-emergence of Igbo as an ethnic group in official records of the government of US.

The import of this exercise must not be lost on any Igbo. We complain that we are under-counted in Nigeria. No one will under-count you in the US. Only you can under-count yourself.
Enough said.

Message from

Igbo League, Inc USA




Igbo,  nma nma nuoo!

Igbo League, Inc. an Igbo Human Rights and Advocacy group in collaboration with several Igbo Organizations is urging all Igbo heads of Household to actively participate in the US 2010 Census. Beginning in the month of March, Census forms will be mailed to every household and address in the USA .

As part of the efforts to improve Igbo visibility in the US , and showcase our numerical strength, we are encouraging every Igbo man and woman to do the following:

1. Take your civic responsibility of making sure that you and your family are counted very seriously.
2. Fill the form as soon as possible and return before the April 1, 2010 deadline.
3. Take out time to encourage your Igbo friends and neighbors (especially those who may not use the internet a lot) to participate.
4. Choose to "Be Counted as Igbo" by filling out the Census form as instructed below: 

There are 10 questions in the Census form that you will fill. With regards to question #9:  WHAT IS A PERSON 1’s RACE?,
a) First mark an “X” in the Second box from the top, (“Black, African American or Negro”)

b) Next, mark “X” on the last box (“some other race”) and in the row of boxes provided, print "IGBO".

The goal of this exercise is to allow the Bureau of Census;
To collect specific demographic information for the first time from a large number of Ndiigbo in the US

•     To identify Igbo as a distinct ethnic minority like the Vietnamese, Native Hawaiians, Japanese, and Filipinos etc.

•     Establish Igbo as an ethnic group to collect data on in subsequent Census exercises.
Umu-nnem na umu-nnam, this is an "onye kwe chi ya ekwe" moment. If a majority of us check these 2 all important boxes in the forms, it will signal the re-emergence of Igbo as an ethnic group in official records of the government of US.

The words Eboe, Ibo, Ebo and others like these are found buried in official documents of the old American colonies and slave states, from when our people first arrived on slave ships in North America . With time, the Igbo identity and language in the Americas succumbed to the brutal forces of slavery. Now, is the time for us to re-establish the noble name and ethnic identity that our fore fathers and mothers bore when they entered the shores of this great land.

Let us give our children and grand children a rallying point. Let them have a name they can proudly call themselves. Let them have a reference point in their lives as they live away from our homeland and some lose touch with Alaigbo. We are black and we are Igbo. Our Black American brothers and sisters who are now tracing their origins will gladly identify as Igbo if we the new comers show some pride in that name.

Please do not fail to pass this info on to at least 10 families that you know. We have been deliberately undercounted in Nigeria , with little recourse. We can do something about it in the US of America. Stand up and be counted as Igbo. Igbo ebilie !!!
Ya gazie

Maazi Kanayo K. Odeluga
For Igbo League, Inc

LAFOCUZY:
How would anybody want this to happen again. Take a look at this link and you will realize that whereever is your perspective of argument on this issue- given current arm situation in Nigeria today, massive unemployed youths, level of exposure, information on bomb making, commerce and economic dimension to war etc- this may be more bloody on both sides of the divide especially to some people who may not have the means to get out;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ReFoFp0Gs

I believe that nobody wants this to happen again. The unfortunate fact though is that such things are precipitous -they happen without warning. And since we've had all the warnings we need in Nigeria, our situation is very dicey indeed, but I wouldn't dwell much on it. Life goes on.  

Katsumoto:
It is either you have a poor grasp of basic grammer or you just want/need to be mischievous. You were alluding that if federal character was removed in Nigeria and that people were chosen for posts on credit, the Igbo would come out on top and that, that was also the reason why Igbos were killed in the 60s. Please see below for OnlyTruth's post and the question I put to him, to which I didn't get a response. Can someone please analyse both comments and ascertain how I implied the above? OnlyTruth, you need to desist from these pathetic attempts at discrediting me and creating confusion.

Quote from: Onlytruth on January 17, 2010, 07:04 PM
But I bet you will mind if is it an Igboman  Grin
Anyway on a more serious note, you are being too idealistic. Start by removing quota system and federal character first and allow the most qualified person to get the job. I bet you all other things will fall in line. But in Nigeria, it is not possible. Once you advocate that, it would end up in "iboman is too greedy". Somehow, cries of domination will start ringing out and hatred will start brewing. That is what led to the massacres in the north in the 1950s and 60s. That is where we have been and we have never moved an inch past that.
That is part of why Jonathan is not acting president today.

Katsumoto's response to the above post.
Are you insinuating that the Igbo man will turn out to be the most qualified in most spheres of society?

@Katsumoto

You complain of insults but you thrive in it! What a duplicitous character! 
You conveniently left out the response I gave to the bolded part. Why not post that too? Are you afraid it would enervate your point?

You were one of the biggest lessons from nairaland. You simply confirmed a stereotype. You act as if you are sincere, but always any close observer would see past that fake polish. You are sly. That's all.

You earlier alluded that my gender was unclear to you, but I would take that as a compliment. After all, here in the states, it is the preferred way of making your point. One should not be able to discern the gender of a poster because it should be a human point, not a man or woman point.

Like I told my brother Richy, I have learned all I needed to learn from nairaland thanks to folks like you.

You will see less of me going forward.

RichyBlacK:
@Onlytruth,

Please try to understand Katsumoto; you don't have to attack him because he's trying to remain civil.

One problem with many Nigerians is that they confuse civility and courtesy for weakness and stupidity.

Katsumoto has, under difficult situations, maintained admirable civility. I respect that more than the rants from becomrrich's assistant, akingberu or something.

@Bro Richy

I wasn't really attacking him, I was responding forcefully to some of his manoeuvrings. Believe me I think through every post before clicking the post button, and whenever I felt remorse, I often went back to make some changes. I really feel that we should be real.

Like you (and I guess most educated Nigerians too) I have mixed up with almost every group in Nigeria. I was born and grew up in the east (from primary to university). I had two best friends at the University of Nigeria (UNN) and one of them is Yoruba from Abeokuta, Ogun state, the other from Akwa Ibom state. I did my youth service in Yorubaland. I have also dated Yoruba babes in the past too and my spiritual mentor is a Yoruba man Dr Olukoya.

I had to give that background to demonstrate that I have respect for Yoruba people and have mixed up with them a lot.

Having said that, I am also determined to learn about Nigeria in real ways (not in Utopian visions). I have had friends, relations, and associates schemed out of employment unfairly by Yoruba folks too, and some of them never lived to tell the story. This happened both in government jobs and private companies like oil companies. Unfortunately, some of these bad experiences are snowballed into real bad feelings when one sees some Yoruba folks here denying that a wrong was perpetrated against Igbos both during and after the war. That denial and even gleeful comments from Yorubas here make the healing impossible and sets the stage for a future repeat. Now, am I saying that the words of a few Yourbas here represent the entire view from Yorubaland? Absolutely not. But, we are in an internet age. Those words should never go unchallenged, else they are accepted as truth -by the whole world.

I grew up believing in Nigeria, but started questioning Nigeria when I became a full adult, when I started seeing that simple things weren't (and still aren't) working in Nigeria, and can clearly see why. When I started to study it, I found out that all the root causes of the problem actually led back to the Biafran war. Like you noted, it was not being taught in schools and simply swept under the carpet. I would like to be a political servant in Nigeria soon (I'm working on it), but how can I make a difference to the lives of my people if I have no clue about the real issues they faced? Nairaland has been very helpful in that regard and I'm now getting to the end of my "education" here.

I came here believing in Biafra, but after my lessons here, I now believe that Nigeria will serve the interest of my people best. Knowing Nigeria's past (history has a way of repeating itself), I would advise my people to work towards making sure that Nigeria is INDIVISIBLE, oil or no oil. When oil finishes, I want to ensure that no section of this country opts out. That is my mission going forward.

Much love my brother Richyblack.  

LAFOCUZY:
Friends what do we all do?? That is the big question. I f we do nothing then we all deserve the kind of government we get!!!!! I am ready for any movement that will institute good governance, alleviate the level of poverty in Nigeria by whatever mean possible. If secession is going to achieve this; OK. No point having a big dysfunctional country of largely poor people, although there is no guarantee a smaller country can afterall Haiti is a small country. I am only tired of seeing people who are hard working but poor and some others who do practically nothing but very rich. It pains meee. Nigeria is not land of equal opportunity

I respect your perspectives on key Nigerian issues. The bold part of your comment is really at the root of most of Nigeria's problems. I remember that Secretary of State Hilary Clinton specifically mentioned lack of meritocracy in Nigeria as one of the root causes of crisis in Nigeria. If you are a Nigerian, you would realize that this problem is so big that if God does not intervene himself, Nigeria will still be dysfunctional even 100 years from today. Am I optimistic? It depends on how the deprived in Nigeria take it. Since I am Igbo, I would speak from an Igbo perspective (keeping it real). It appears as if everything whenever we forcefully raise the issue of federal character and quota system and all other systems which scheme out qualified Igbo from well deserved opportunity in their country, our opponents raise all types of lies against us - Igbos are greedy, this and that. It never occurs to these opponents of meritocracy that Nigeria is not working precisely because of that, which is Clinton's point.
I remember katsumoto asking me whether I was sure that Igbos were the most qualified for jobs in Nigeria (as if I cared ). I don't care who rules me for the next 100 years, provided he is among the best Nigeria has and performs his/her job superbly. Can it ever happen in Nigeria, knowing how some people feel about the ethnic background of some of these best qualified Nigerians? We shall see!

The other time, you said I was inciting people to take up arms and you went ahead to pretend you don't know the implication for peace in Nigeria. When I accused you of being a sly and dangerous Yorubaman, you feigned offense and indignation.

I will repeat my position again for the record.

I know that Biafra is an emotional topic, and I know that we will be successful in such country. However, I would rather we stay in Nigeria because our enemies are latching onto the fear of a Biafra to spread all types of lies about us and to scheme us out of the national equation.
I would advise my people to borrow a leaf from Obafemi Awolowo (a man whose words are his greatest ambush strategy). Focus on the ball. We shall overcome for sure. The same people who sabotaged Biafra will beg us one day for Nigeria's disintegration, and we will fight them (using the Nigerian military of course) to keep Nigeria one.

katsumoto, ngwa back to your schemings.

Ogbu isi adighi ekwe ka ewere mma gaa ya n'azu - a[b] head hunter is always apprehensive when approached from the back (even innocuously) with a machete[/b].

Katsumoto:
And you hope to accomplish that by staying in the US, encouraging your Igbo brothers to join Nairaland, and getting emotional on Nairaland? Excellent strategy

Why do you keep making this dumb point. Do you stay in Nigeria? And if you do, how do you pay for the gas or petrol for your generator? You think my folks in Nigeria wouldn't do more if they can afford it? BTW I visit Nigeria steadily and know what goes on perhaps more than you. This is the same dumb point some folks were making here -diaspora Nigerians vs home based. When did it become a crime to be a dual citizen?
I tire for you o!

You want me to forget Nigeria so that your folks will ensure that things stay the same even 40 years after the war. Keep dreaming.

And stop misquoting and misrepresenting my points. I know it can be difficult to not be sly for your type, but please try.

Ahmadu Bello believed in a united Nigeria, he never mortgaged any northern interest for it. Awolowo believed in the same united Nigeria, he never sold or lost any part of the west for it. Zik believed in the same united Nigeria, but he lost all eastern interests to it. He never even had a clue!

I still see many Ziks in Igboland. That is a fact. However, folks like us will ensure they never sold us again.

henry101:
na endorsement b dis?

Na full endorsement. No shaking !