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lol, the preamble to the questions are biased against sanusi, but the poll question is still fair. You can decide to agree with the preambles or not. Vote your true feelings.

@Ibime
You nearly confused me. I think beaf's argument is simple

(cash),trust, ideas, methods, techniques, positions = GENERAL CONFIDENCE in the bank.

Cash is good; but it doesn't stop there. General confidence (which includes all the above listed items) is the base of any bank. No bank in the world has enough cash (or can have enough cash! ), so none can survive a run at the bank because of this. Banks operate on leverage. The key is to find the rational boundaries of that leverage and to  regulate it properly. That is Sanusi's job. By "rational boundaries" I meant bearing in mind all the facts of banking and the general Nigerian economy. He is not the MD of a bank. He is the governor of the central bank of Nigeria. 

Sanusi may have done more harm than good to the growth of the banking system and the general economy.

^^^
He tried to steal Edo and Delta and beaf [/b]called him to order. That was [b]beaf's "crime". He convicted him in his tribal kangaroo court and sentenced him!

ogunonire:
Onlytruth and beaf is true that you are both ex-conflicts or OPCman made it up?

Your thieving brother OPCman came up with what he knows best because all his heroes are ex-convicts - Awolowo, Obasanjo and Bode George

OPCman:
Onlytruth    onlylier and beef= ex-convict in drugs and human trafficking.
Did you met in prison or you are the same person? because you seem to share brain (saying thesame thing)

Oloriburuku, omo iran kiran. Sons of rapists and kidnappers . Onyinshi!

OPCman Hunter, are you and becomricch the same person? Both your IQs are the same. Really. You think through your a$$hole.

Beaf:
^
My brother thank you jare!
I can't understand why people like him believe that minorities are items to be kicked about. He must be a very obnoxious and unrefined person.

I hear you bro! I don't think he comes from a culture that recognizes the right of the individual to assert himself. He still thinks like oranmiyan!

A friend of mine from delta state- anioma said that his people had this fable about the Yoruba. The fable basically said that the name "Yoruba" came from "Oyo Oru Oba" -meaning "Oyo, the slaves of the Oba". I don't know if this is true, but the guy from Ogwashi swears it is true.
I'm not surprised by OPCman's polemics. He can't see minorities. 

Beaf:
Please stop mentioning Edo and Delta in your area boy calculation's. That's all. We never wanted to be with you in the Western region and we successfully fought our way out of it.
[size=14pt]Stop mentioning us, because we have nothing in common with you people[/size] (especially with glorified ex-hunters and ex-rat trappers now calling themselves names like "OPCMan".

[size=14pt]Do you feel so inferior that you just must mention Edo and Delta? [/size]

Everything you said above is rubbish, you don't even know your own history. I will now abuse you in your language (so your thick head can understand). Ole! Omo ale! Ori e o pe! bleeping eron seller! Ma sh e bi ata shin she enu! Blockhead!

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That hunter "OPCMan" never ceases to amaze me. He must have discovered from new potent herb while hunting! lmao!

OPCman

I like that thing you are smoking. That's some good sh**t you are smoking bro!

So why not secede from Nigeria and sing kumbaya?

I am worried about the length of this leash and the interest(s) tugging at it.  Sighs and shakes head! When will we ever get simply things right in Nigeria? 

I had eagerly waited for this great news, but the news came without an eye, ear, legs and heart! What type of a national assembly is this?

My joy was cut shot by the method which the national assembly chose to bring about this great event.
Can't anything be done right in Nigeria? How difficult could it be for the FEC to prepare a medical report saying that the president is sick which would then trigger the move by the national assembly?

If this national assembly could easily pass a resolution empowering Jonathan to act as president, why couldn't they simply impeach yar adua? Is Nigeria this crooked?

Suddenly Jonathan is sitting on a legally challengeable position and we hope for the best to come out of it?
I smell a whole lot of trouble for ordinary Nigerians. I have a feeling that the VP is being set up in such a way that he will be kept on a "politico-legal" leash.

Our biggest worry now is the vested interest holding that leash; it could be anybody! And our new president will have little room to make moves necessary for true changes in leadership at the top. This is a Greek gift!
We want the national assembly to impeach Yar adua for his violation of the Nigerian constitution. If they don't do that, be assured that we are in a lame duck presidency. How sad!

becomricch:
what is the meaning of names

Aruabai
Ariweri
Faka

in igbo

What is the meaning of becomricch in Yoruba. lmfao!

More Nigerians love and respect Ojukwu more than the establishment will like us to believe. I would like the Ikemba to infuse raw energy and vibe into APGA to cease the south east politically. It can happen if we work HARD for it. Yes we can!

udezue:
BABAPUPA,
OMO go worry about Egbeomodoodoowar and leave Igbos alone jare

lol! Bro udezue leave babapupa alone. He is entitled to his opinion. I wonder why he is having gastric reflux because of the great Ikemba and Igbo politics.

I demonstrated to him and his brothers that Ojukwu is a more credible Nigerian leader than their heroes Obasanjo and Awo. Show me a Yoruba leader that can speak Igbo fluently. Ojukwu can speak Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba.

Jealousy go kill some people.

Recall that in 2003 presidential elections featuring Obasanjo (PDP), Buhari (ANPP) and Ojukwu (APGA) amongst other contestants; Ojukwu came third, right? Mind you that election was rigged as hell. The Ikemba will keep shocking them!

mekusxxx:
South EAST=APGA (Anambra), PPA (Abia), PDP (Enugu, Imo, Ebonyi)
SOUTH WEST=AC (Lagos), LP (Ondo), PDP (Oyo, Ekiti, Ogun and Osun)
SOUTH SOUTH = AC (Edo) PDP (Rivers, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River and Bayelsa)
PDP is still in charge of the south by a very significant proportion - 12 states versus 5 states
Thus, the so-called regional parties still have a long way to go. Moreover, there is really no new deal in Anambra since APGA was already the ruling party there.

APGA's vision should be to expand to all Igbo states first and go from there. I say that because there is already an existing followership in Igboland. It just needs to be bolstered. We shouldn't really care much about other regions for now, until we have demonstrated a functional and peaceful leadership style in Igboland. Only then will other regions copy us and accept APGA. If they don't, well, too bad for them!

APGA should be reformed immediately in readiness for next year's election.

The great Ikemba must not retire yet from APGA board of trustees. APGA need him now more than ever. We are yet to have Ojukwu's successor in Igboland; someone who is deep, strong, loves his people deeply and passionately, possess uncommon wisdom and vision, fearless and transformational.
Only such a character can enjoy Igbo trust and respect.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhbJs26SjNw

EzeUche:
My brother, why would the Ndi Igbo want to run this nation we call Nigeria? A regional party would be more beneficial for the Igbo than the presidency!!!  

A unified party could one day demand outright secession!!!!

APGA is a Nigerian party and it will remain so. The secession thing is the lie that other regions use to blackmail our national entitlements. I agree with other things you said about regional parties. You must build a national party from the regions. That is why PDP is the biggest fraud in Nigerian political history. That party is only real as long as there is oil money to share. The day oil dries up is day the party will cease to exist.

asha 80:
I have always believed that thet average igbo person simply wants basic infrastructure such as roads,power,securities etc and not Presidency for bragging purposes.It does not add value to anything.I know the arguments about political influence but i still think that infrastucture is of utmost importance than a figure head.

Let me use and eg.For those that are familiar with spain and it geo-politics i wonder if there has ever being a spanish prime minister of Catalan origin yet the Catalan region is regarded as the richest region in spain(important or biggest city here is barcelona) yet the capital of spain is madrid and previous prime ministers including the present one are almost always Castillan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8410730.stm

That is why i prefer some kind of autonomy for the different regions in nigeria so that they can determine there economic prosperity.

You captured the message succinctly. Thanks! We have long heard this lie about national politics as if only good comes out of it. Pray does anyone remember how peaceful elections used to be in Igboland? Now all we hear about is do or die and electoral violence!
We don't need that type of "national politics". They can keep Nigerian presidency for ever if they insist on PDP.
If we reclaim our politics and way of life, I promise you that even the rest of Nigeria will copy from us one day. Who hates quality leadership?
PDP is a party of thieves!
All credible Igbos like Dora Akunyili should leave it.

I hear you bro Eziachi!

APGA needs urgent leadership reform. Obi should invite Soludo to join APGA. APGA already has a solid base in Igboland. They just need to put in the hard work of wooing the best leadership materials in Igboland. Credible candidates must be wooed away from PDP. We know who the thieves are in Igboland and they will not survive in APGA.

The Ikemba must not retire yet. We need him to continue giving iron to the spines of APGA. The very nature of PDP will make even an angel fail in leadership. PDP -a party of "come and eat" cannot save Ndigbo.
I don't know Victor Umeh (APGA national chairman) but he has failed to grow APGA beyond Anambra state.
This is an opportunity for a more capable person to take over from him.

utu_mma:
i wonder what soludo will be doing by now ( im going to win with BIG margin 9 -5= what) i wonder who pushed u to come out at the first place.now you can not talk again pls i want to see you on NTA pls.

"utu mma", is that your real name? ROTFLMAO !

OPCman:
Do you have mobile phone? If yes, that is part of Obasanjo transformation of Nigeria


Can't understand what you are trying to drive out. Are you implying that your tribe {?} has the highest population in Nigeria, hence Obasanjo did not allow tribal data

I think Obasanjo was simply too afraid (the coward! ) to allow a fair census, complete with tribal data. Ohanaeze Ndigbo campaigned hard for tribal data to be collected, Obasanjo refused. You didn't know this? Na wa for you o! 
So until we have that fair census, keep that your claim low. 

onye_ngbu:
Every party in nigeria is dead from the inside. They are all the same. They are all constituted of corrupt politicians who can decamp from APGA to PDP or AC tomorrow.

As long as that structure called PDP is still in place, ndigbo cannot go anywhere with APGA.

lol, I know you must have been among those trumpeting a certain PDP victory in the last elections. I will dig up your posts to confirm it.
My Nnewi folks say that "o bu mmadu si ka edo nwere nkwo, a si ya ka onwere eke, o ya aju" translated -it is the masses that says that Edo (the chief deity or goddess in Nnewi) should own the Nkwo Nnewi market, if she (Edo) is told by the same masses to move to Eke market, she has no choice but to obey!

PDP is only as powerful as people like you give it powers. Anambra people proved that.

We can dismantle the PDP evil stronghold if we want, YES WE CAN.

We don't need to go anywhere national if we don't have good government in the south east. That is part of the PDP lies. We need to give the best government to our people, not criminals from a "national party".

I need good roads, and best social infrastructure. I don't need Nigeria's presidency if it must come from PDP.
We must reject this PDP lies of national political relevance. All the regions that have produced Nigerian presidents are not better than south east today. We need to see past this national politics lie especially if it will corrupt our way of politics and life.

afam4eva:
2015? and What happened to 2011.

When the north must have completed their 8 year turn ( a la zoning ) .
On a more serious note, that is to give him enough time to build the party nationally. He would need the time to organize and build a national movement.

cheaphost:
For once in my life i wanted PDP to win simply because of Soludo. I could imagine what Soludo would do with a state like Anambra. Soludo should join APGA, who know he could be their presidential candidate for 2011.

True talk. All politics is local. If he plays his cards well, he will have the backing of millions of Igbos going into the race in 2015, and that is no mean feat. Other Nigerians already know him but he needs to reform his image and approach them on a credible platform which he must help build between now and then. I saw his campaigns, so, he is not intimidated by politics. He must invest in the right party now. PDP is a dead horse and is rotting from inside.

OPCman:
Several ethnic group is not the problem. The problem is rivalry envy, jealousy and bad belle. We pretend to like each other- because of oil money- when in actual fact we don't. If the oil dries out tomorrow the North will quit Nigeria in speed of light. Midbelters will tell you they are not Hausa-Fulani. Or tell me do Ibos like the Yorubas if not because of Lagos?
Yoruba is not nationalistic in nature and culture (except those in NPN and now PDP) the reason other tribes see them as too tribalistic. However, this shouldn't has caused problem if the naughty person political jobbers with inferiority complex had allowed each ethnic group to manage its own affairs.

[b]And on principal ethnic group, people can take it or leave- Yoruba is the PRINCIPAL ethnic group in Nigeria. [/b]The Yoruba of Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Kwara, Kogi, Lagos, Ekiti, Osun, plus the Yoruba in Delta and Edo; and the fact that over 60% of Nigerians speak Yoruba make us the principal ethnic group but other tribe don't like us out of jealousy. If Yoruba is given chance and opportunity to rule the country, we would transform it like the English single handededly transformed Great Britain (UK). BUT WOULD THEY ALLOW US? I DON'T THINK SO.

Your brother Obasanjo was too afraid to allow the last census to carry tribal data because of what he might find. I won't say anything except that our census should confirm your claim, else it is mere claims based on the figment of your imagination.

I believe in regional parties because the PDP and all Nigerian national parties have been fake parties based on "come and eat".

I know that most of Soludo supporters are angry because they think he is a presidential material. Well, that might be true, but he would make a bad governor or president under PDP.

Since he is a visionary leader, he should go and reform APGA (that is if PDP federal govt won't hound him for it). He should reform APGA, take its campaign to all parts of Nigeria and contest for senate next year. After being in the senate for 4 years, he can contest the presidency in 2015. Nigerian politicians hate hard work, but that is what he needs to do now. He must work hard to polish a rough gem called APGA and make it a truly national party. However, if making it a national party will blur the vision, then APGA must focus on south east and win all contested positions.

I hate PDP with all its evil culture. Suddenly we are rejoicing for having a peaceful poll in Anambra state! How did we fall this low? Strange foreign cultures must be purged from our lands! Other Nigerians will welcome a culture of peaceful electoral contests. Yes, they will welcome APGA!

onye_ngbu:
Thank you my brother. Soludo himself has been saying in his campaign that the only way our people can get things out of the FG is through PDP.
Most people kept complaining that PDP is evil as if every other party is not.

Even if ndigbo present a canonized saint as  APGA presidential candidate, nobody will vote that person outside the south east. It is just as simple as that.

This is why I was calling for a focused visionary party leadership. For the Igbo presidency thing, believe me, we have options. What we need now is the election of decent people in the south east under APGA (other parties are playing games with our purse!).
If we have honest and focused leadership in the south east, other states will see and accept APGA. Even if they don't, we should not let that sway us. That presidency thing won't serve us well if a thief from the south east is elected. He will only go there to fill our "quota" and things will continue as usual. We need to think past that banal line.

McKren:
Onlytruth

Chekwas Okorie is not the former chairman of APGA. He is the chairman of a parallel faction of APGA

That has since been settled by the courts and INEC. Chekwa Okorie's APGA is mute. That is why Obi is governor under APGA today.

McKren:
Well if that is how APGA hopes to capture the rest of South East then I am sorry that dream will not material anytime soon.

The rest of the world will not sit down forever and allow APGA have a field day with what they want forever. If you think South East is predominatly APGA I can only say you think that based on who you know and what their political ideologies are.

The cynical politics played by APGA in Anambra will not fly in the rest of SouthEast.

Like I said in my earlier post, APGA under Umeh is not doing so well in articulating its manifesto and contesting polls. A reformed APGA  will sweep south east anyday.
PDP is a party of thieves!
We don't need presidency. We need electricity, good roads, good hospitals, good schools, good civil service, maintain our Igbo culture which has solutions to all our social problems. All those can be provided by decent state governors and houses of assembly. Other people can even copy us then.
Who says APGA can't spread beyond the south east? It is all a matter of party leadership.
President Reagan once said that the US rule the world by American culture. Who says we can't rule Nigeria by Igbo culture?
What APGA needs is visionary leadership.

sjeezy8:
PDP is coming to an End and I think maybe OBJ just used it as a means to bring power back down south and put Jonathan in.
PDP should essentially be a southern/middle belt party, I see no reason why SE,SS,SE,progressive Middle belt cant pass presidency back and forth.
PDP is just one big sheet that has small parties within themeselves.

Anambra was kinda funny tho, lol.

I have always advocated for a strong regional party (APGA for instance). PDP is a national party of thieves!
Ndigbo should understand that if we have a strong and decent party controlling the south east, we can actually draw up development plans and elect decent people whom we know and who have our interests at heart. People who will implement programs that serve our needs, not the needs of some stoopid national interest.

I also say that we don't need to produce any president. All we need do is control our region and speak with one voice. Any president at the center must listen to us then,whether he likes it or not.

I see PDP as the biggest threat to our survival as a decent democratic people in Igboland.

onye_ngbu:
Except for where you laballed me a conspiracy theorist, you got almost some of the other things you said right

Part of what I am saying with respect to the topic is that APGA cannot take over south east. They dont just have the followership to do just that yet.

In addition, PDP and Iwu did not allow Obi to win because of peace. They are not that decent.

I guess we both agree that PDP and Iwu did not "allow" Obi to win; he actually won, and hell would have broken lose if they rigged in Andy Uba or PDP. For Soludo, he lost because he is in PDP.
The mistake folks like you keep making is that you underestimate APGA and what it represents. That was the undoing of PDP, LP, AC and PPA. For the first time APGA has earned the respect it deserves.
My only problem with APGA now is that it seems their national chairman Victor Umeh is not as resourceful as the former one -Chekwas Okorie.
That party is beloved in the south east but the party leadership needs urgent reform.

That south east is a PDP region is the biggest myth of the day. South east is APGA, but PDP has been rigging the polls.
Politics is fluid anyway, but APGA will win south east if they play it like in Anambra.

onye_ngbu:
APGA was only ALLOWED to win.

You people should get this right.

How come none of you is asking what really happened.

How come Soludo and Andy Uba conceded defeat just like that?

How come no one is asking why all the red-beret MOPOLs and amoured thanks that were patrolling anambra all disappeared on the day of the election.

Are you guys aware that Obj was in awka from friday till monday?


Things that are much more complicated than just free and fair election took place in Anambra on saturday.

Conspiracy theorists are at large!  

Let me say what most people already know. The Federal government decided to give peace a chance in Anambra state. There was intelligence report before this election. Nigeria was sitting on a keg of explosives and no one in his right senses would play any stoopid games with Anambra people. So, get it!

Yes, APGA was allowed to win because Nigeria cannot afford another crisis or even war now (with Niger delta crisis and an absentee president).

I congratulate my people for standing their ground and insisting on genuine polls.

I hope other Nigerians copy Anambra state next year. PDP holds us captive because we let them.

chosen04:
Seriously, the bolded statement from you is really disappointing

Why shld a man whose even registered family members couldnt vote for not to talk of other supporters concede defeat just like that?

If nobody fights for the disenfrenchment of 80% of the registered votes now, why wil you blame INEC 2norw if 99.9% of registered votes are disenfrenched?

Let him go to court, let it get to INEC that you cant deny majority of the people their right and still wants be hailed cos other contestants conceded defeat.

I understand where you are coming from. In this concluded election, my candidate was Ngige, but it should not blur the bigger picture.

The point I am making is that he must view Anambra state as a whole; also, he must view the circumstances under which this election happened. There was no clear case of official rigging in this election and the peoples choice won. Please note that there was no popular uproar against the result (and trust Anambra people, they won't shut up if this election was rigged). Every candidate was a victim of INECs incompetence and poor preparation. All of them lost votes.

The bigger point which Eziachi made is that even in developed countries, somethings the voter turn out is the neighborhood of 20% and yet elections are credible and accepted. There are many factors which could have reduced the number of voters in this election -I know many people who were afraid of going to the polls. It took a lot of courage (knowing the history of elections in Nigeria) for voters to go to the polls. So bear all these in mind.

My advice to Ngige is based on my understanding of my people. Ngige even won in my LGA (Nnewi north). He is not from there, so this tells me that this election reflected the will of the people.
Anambra state is bigger than all of us, so it is time to move on. Eziachi was spot on in advising a senate run for him and Soludo under APGA or AC.
He must not lose his supporters by contesting this election at the tribunals. All other contestants have conceded. He must follow suit.

Sefago and sjeezy8. You and your brother babapupa has derailed this thread.

Here is your leader speaking. Salute!
We can loan him to you in the west. He can speak Yoruba more than all of you. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhbJs26SjNw