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It is our own list of persons of interest or terrorist list. Anyone who failed to participate in this oath goes straight into that list!
Gone are the days when people carry bible on one hand like OBJ did in 1999 and rig elections with the other hand. Two weeks into their rule they declare bazaars!

Among them is that no ill will befall Anambra again; that no rigging should occur in the election; that it shall not be well for a politician who sent his children abroad and use other children to effect rigging;

This is the heart of the covenant.

blacksta:
So what will happen if i dont take the oath and win the election by rigging? Who will punish me?

At least we would know that you are a thief ab initio and resist you on the polling day by other means. If you still win, we would make like HELL for your administration of thieves!

As a follow up, these rituals are COVENANTS, they are not really enforced by any gods, but by the collective will of the people. If any of those participants in the oath go contrary to it, I for example, as an Anambra man, can pray to God and ask for vengeance and anything I wish upon them will happen. Even whites (whom we copy) understand this universal truth.

blacksta:
Please advice when swearing at shrine became a part of the constitution of Nigeria or part of the electoral act  I actually commend INEC, PDP AND PPA  for not attending such nonsensical event  -

Is rigging elections part of the Nigerian Constitution Don't people rig them anyway?
Is stealing and pillaging of public coffers legal and constitutional? Don't politicians steal anyway?

Where were the so called gods when kidnapping and armed robbery was rampant
.

Did kidnappers and armed robbers take any oaths not to embark on their stock and trade?
Please be logical. I hate arguing with illogical people.

paddy_lo:
yes i wonder why soludo or andy uba didnt bother to show up. . .
they should for the sake of clarity go and partake of this oath

I won't say that I'm surprised that they didn't show up. Those guys don't plan on playing fair in this election.
This ritual by these traditional leaders of Anambra state is the first real sign I have seen so far that Anambra people are serious about stopping rigging in Anambra state. Anyone who participates in this oath risks bringing generations of curses on his/her family if he/she rigs, and since Ndigbo are now more aware of the consequences of curses, anyone who plans to rig this election won't show up. You can take that to the bank.

blacksta:
Swearing a pact with the devil  - and they wonder when evil takes over the state.

The devil is not represented in this ritual. Take a close look and see whether INEC, PDP and PPA are represented. The most educated among us know that these things are the only time tested ways to mete out real consequences for evil acts. Since we did away with them, our land has become like somalia. We must claim our land back! All the thieves and devils of Igboland go by the title of "sirs" conveyed on them by churches, and when we go to bed, they invite their father -the devil- in the middle of the night to share the loot.
We need much more of these types of oaths administered on all our representatives in the future.

paddy_lo:
Anambra: Traditional Rulers Administer Oath On Contestants

By Chukwujekwu Ilozue (Onitsha) and Joe Nwankwo (Abuja)

To ensure that next month’s governorship election in Anambra State goes smoothly, traditional rulers in the state on Friday effected a covenant through the Igbo traditional  igo ofo on the contestants, as well as a curse on a candidate who goes contrary to good electoral conduct.
The event, which took place at Dr. Alex Ekwueme Square, was organised by Anambra State Free and Fair Elections Initiative led by Sir Chris Okoye. It was attended by a large crowd and about 10 governorship candidates or their representatives, including Governor Peter Obi.
Chairman of the state traditional rulers’ council and  Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Alfred Nnaemeka Achebe, said at the occasion that “igo ofo is an old but very useful custom, which has been the basis for upholding the morality of the Igbo (Nso ani). It is both prayer and a positive covenant for goodness. It is what some religion would tag an agreement prayer, a practical acceptance that something ought to be done for the ultimate and common good of the society.”

Igwe Achebe, dalu ezigbo nna anyi. Customs like these should be strengthened for the benefit of our people. We need to use these to drive away all the ufu (the foxes, the jackals and hyenas) from Igboland.

He said the ceremony represents manifest commitment to a free and fair election by borrowing some effective means through which Igbo forebears attained enviable heights at home and in their vocations. It is a direct response to the yearnings for a credible election by the generality of Anambra people as clearly articulated by the Anambra Free and Fair Election Initiative, he added.

True talk Igwe. We need to claim our culture back!

The traditional ruler of Nri, a community reputed to be the progenitor of Igbo people, His Royal Highness, Igwe Obidiegwu Onyensoh, led three other rulers from different towns to offer several prayer points as well as curses for those that disobey the rules. Among them is that no ill will befall Anambra again; that no rigging should occur in the election; that it shall not be well for a politician who sent his children abroad and use other children to effect rigging; that result of votes cast should be announced at the polling station as announced by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC); that there should be no forging of results of the election and that losers should gracefully accept their loss and so on. The rulers used the traditional white chalk, palm frond and native  ogilisi leaves. After the  igo ofo all the candidates and representatives were invited during which the rulers cleansed and blessed them and emphasised the implication of what they had just been put through.

I pity anyone who belittles or makes mockery of this ritual. His/her entire family and lineage risks being wiped out by those curses. This ritual led by Eze Nri is very very very old! The ofo by eze nri is the oldest in Igboland. That is why you didn't see the PDP or PPA candidates represented there.

Represented candidates:

[b]Among the candidates who attended the ceremony are Governor Peter Obi, Governorship candidate of Nigeria Advanced Party (NAP) Mrs. Njideka Anyadike, while AC was represented by the deputy governorship candidate, Agbasi. Other deputy governorship candidates that attended were Ken Nwuba of the National Conscience Party (NCP), Okechukwu Emmanuel of United Democratic Party (UDP), Patrick Egolum of All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP), Obiefuna Nwandu of the African Democratic Party (ADC), Jasper Azodo of African Liberation Party (ALP) and Chukwuemeka Nnonyelu of the Congress for Democratic Change (CDC).

My people have finally started to get serious with this election. Woe betide anyone who dares to rig it! Ofo!!!

Bros Abagworo

Just ignore the raving lunatic. Please allow him to continue wallowing in the cesspool if his idio.cy
Even people he claims to represent have all distanced from him. Silence is the best answer to a fo'ol.

Katsumoto:
I am an advocate of one Nigeria if we can manage to do away with the evils bedeviling our nation. On the otherhand, I equally have to share that belief with you for a number of reasons. The people of the South are usually more free-willed, ambitious, and resilient. If our Northern brothers can get their act together by becoming more educated, more demanding of their leaders, and more tolerant of others, then Nigeria can be a better nation. If on the otherhand, the current malaise in the North continues unabated, then perhaps the idea of a Southern Nigeria may start appealling to more Southerners.

Like you said, Lagos is a melting pot of affairs and it offers evidence that Southerners are generally peaceful. It is not to say that there are no disagreements between tribes in Lagos but those incidents do not usually result in the loss of multiple lives. Very unlike what happens in Kaduna, Maiduguri, Jos, Bauchi, etc.

The dream of having a great united Nigeria will remain only a dream because of northern unwillingness to acquire western education and develop a culture of tolerance. As long as the north remains unwilling (and no one knows if they would ever change!) to acquire western education and jettison Islamic intolerance, mark my word, Nigeria is headed for war. Our generation might be patient to free ourselves from this, but our children will never accept that situation. That is why I laugh at those who think Nigeria can survive without the north undergoing some serious fundamental changes. Division is inevitable.

What I'm trying to do is to find out what constitutes the best alternative to the status quo (which is unacceptable). To be serious about freeing myself from this forced marriage, I must be open to the fact that it may not happen peacefully. So, I'm trying to identify the fault lines. For a southern Nigeria to work, it has to be formed upon a new spirit: a spirit of excellence and patriotism. The partnership between mediocrity and patriotism is like that between fire and water. It can never work! So, the north must be kept away for now. They can join when they repent. Just my views.

Katsumoto:
Are you the Ooni of Ife? Secondly, the Ooni does not speak for Yoruba people; he never had the authority and never will. Yoruba people stopped taking him seriously when he went to Aso Rock and said IBB was making sense after annulling June 12. He lost all credibility then and I don't think he has done anything since then to regain a shred back.

You and the Ooni can relocate to Benin Republic but I guarantee you that no Yoruba person (talkless of mid-westerners) will be joining you to form any union with Benin Republic.

Katsumoto

By that strong rebuttal, and by the fact that you are far more credible than the [b]Becomrich[/b]s and [b]sjeezy8[/b]s of yorubas here on nairaland, I officially withdraw my suspicions about yoruba motives.
Personally, I remain convinced that a southern Nigeria is possible. The way Lagos is a microcosm is a proof that it can work. Igbos and yorubas live in Lagos peacefully without religious and other riots and killings. So, I believe it can work. People just need to open their minds more.  And yes I would rather go with the west than with the north. The north seems incorrigible.

sjeezy8:
if you believe him you are a fool

It takes one fool to know another. You have your fool running around nairaland scheming a pipe dream and your people gave quiet acquiescence. Becomrich, I'm still awaiting your answer. 
sjeezy8, no need to sh.it in your pants yet.

becomrich;:
onlytruth, the silence speak acceptance. Look more than 95% of Yorubas believe in what I am doing. We may find minority. They are minority and most thieves who have stolen from our people. And use our people while you others use them .


Look we are getting 7% from the revenue while we produce more than. Your people Onlytruth produce less than 1% .

I may be forced to believe you there. However, you still have not addressed the war that may arise as a result of your forcing my people in delta to join you in your dream land. Are you prepared for war? Like I said before, no country is viable without the ability to fight and win a war whether willingly or not. That is part of why Biafra failed. You were here when ndu_chuks was making that allusion and you kept quiet. Let me tell you, the north is interested in many things in the south, not just oil.

Personally I think they are more interested in having the Igbo in their country because of Igbo enterprise and openness. However that doesn't mean we Igbos must exist by their dictate, beck or whims. So, any reasonable Igbo knows that we may have to fight again for our freedom from a forced marriage. My question to you is, are your people prepared to fight, since the north knows they can colonize you by force? Also, are you prepared to fight the minority Igbos in your territory with heavy support from their kith and kin across the Niger river?

I thought they only reason through their a.s.sholes. I predicted how it ends and it didn't even last 48 hrs.
Nza the bird picking a fight with his chi.
I hope the US gives them 7 days ultimatum to rein in domestic Islamic extremism and terror. I don't think we've heard the last of this.

udezue:
Aloy,
Why not at least shoot himself?

Udezue, Happy new year! (you are the first person I have wished that on nairaland, so understand it is big deal!)
I miss you here. What really happened
Nice to have you back!

^^^^
Stop scaring people. Everyone is not as cowardly as you. The thing i.di.ots like you don't get is that no nation is spared of war if it goes down the path of Nigeria, whether your type wants it or not. In fact the greatest nations of the world cut their teeth in real wars (not the little internal enemy you found in Biafra), real war, real enemies. And if Nigeria continue the same way, it is inevitable. So, learn to live with that fact. If Nigeria does not change, I can assure you there will be war and your feared 10 million might die in your side of Nigeria. The greatest losers would be those who keep denying this inevitable fate awaiting Nigeria. Like I said, this is not 1966 and Nigeria has been simmering for 40 years. If you are preparing to fight against a "Biafra", you will be shocked. One of the first casualties of the war will be your cowardly di.ck (which must be "amputated" to teach you real life lessons).
mudder.fkcer!

sjeezy8:
Sorry not only Oil but Gas also along with agriculture, gold, minerals, TAX MONEY, and sea ports in south of Nigera, everything the north doesnt have.

Stop trying to frighten us out of our senses, some of us would rather die than be slave like you.
Why can't you put up any real sensible reason why Nigeria cannot be partitioned than this your -shitting-in -your-pants-before-a-shot-is-fired mindset. So, we must stay in a country as defined by the north?
This is the thinking style of sniveling old women!

I don't know why you somehow can't connect with the fact that this is not 1966, and the north knows it.
Today, all you need to capture a country like Nigeria is money. There are too many willing fighters (more armed than the Nigerian military) to do your job.
I bet you the north won't even think of fighting when the stage is finally set. Who wants to commit suicide?

Northerners are not really that brave and I can prove it: the few times Igbos fought them in the north showed they can be defeated even in the north.
So, if you don't have any ideas, just move on. Stop trying to spread your cowardice here. Nonsense.

It pains me to see a South African pouring invectives on Nigerians but I don't blame him much. Nigeria is not a country to be proud of going by historical and current information. The most foolish thing Nigeria did in her entire history was to help liberate the barbaric and i.di.otic South African blacks. Those people should have been left under the reign of Shaka Zulu or whites.

For Mpele, here is an interesting information about your country:

According to a survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations, South Africa was ranked first for ra.pes per capita.[8] It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being ra.ped than learning how to read.[9] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been ra.ped in the past year.[9] More than 25 per cent of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) in June 2009 admitted to ra.pi.ng someone; of those, nearly half said they had ra.p.ed more than one person.[10][11] Three out of four who admitted ra.pe [/b]attacked for the first time during their teens.[10]

[b]South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby ra.pe in the world.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa


Mpele, go and address the war you declared on your women first before coming here to remind us of our stupidity in freeing you from a deserved subjugation. Idi.ot

Those two workers at Chevron have relations, and those relations must have rejoiced with them on landing a job at Chevron.
What crime could an 8 day old baby have committed to attract police bullets, stray or not?
If this country is not cursed, how could these types of daylight murders happen on a regular basis?

To think that this has been the tradition in Nigeria. What type of a country is this?

CASE 1

“It was a minor disagreement that got out of hand,” he said.
On Monday, he said, a convoy of 15 buses began to travel around the plant, stopping at several security checkpoints inside the compound.
One bus however failed to stop at a checkpoint and the driver got into an argument with security guards at the plant's main gate, he said.
According to him, a group of Nigerian soldiers detailed to guard the plant arrived at the same time and fired shots at the crowd “to try to get them to disperse”.
He confirmed that soldiers shot and killed two Nigerian workers.
Workers responded by burning buildings and fighting with soldiers until the situation was brought under control by local officials, AP reported.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=163612


CASE 2

Three policemen have been ordered to be remanded in the Federal Prisons, Oke-Kura, Ilorin, by a Chief Magistrate’s Court over their alleged involvement in the killing of three passengers including an eight-day-old baby at a checkpoint in Ilorin last Sunday.
The Kwara State Police Command yesterday arraigned the suspects in court for criminal conspiracy and culpable homicide.   
The suspects are Olatunji Tajudeen (first accused), Adams Akeem (second accused) and Sunday Balogun (third accused).
Four policemen on patrol along New Yidi Road, Ilorin had last Sunday shot at a taxi when the driver allegedly failed to stop for inspection. The bullets had hit the three passengers in the taxi. THISDAY checks revealed that while two of the passengers died on the spot, the infant was rushed to a private hospital and finally died around 9.30pm Tuesday.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=163610


Nigerian national assembly should issue 7 days ultimatum to the Nigerian security officers to stop killing the citizens they are supposed to serve and protect.

OMO IBO:
I agree with this again like I did the threadstarter's however I believe MASSOB's decsion to share centre stage with the US is wrong.

I didn't read that they wanted to share any stage at all with the US. They only took a position, an official position on the issue. It is important, bearing in mind that Nigeria is not interested in addressing internal issues which led to the Farouk Mutallab terrorist incident. Until we have a country, all groups must make proper representations on international issues. If they don't, they risk being lobbed together when the real showdown begins. Just being real.

OMO IBO:
What are you on about??
Last time i checked Kenya and Somalia are African countries and they've have had their fair share of terrorist activities.

Yes, they are, but they have not been systematically exterminating Christians to the tune of millions from the time of Lugard amalgamation to the present. Nigeria is really a text book case of Islamic extremism. The difference is that Nigerian Muslims have cleverly kept their genocidal acts to within the Nigerian borders. Now, one of them have exported it and the world is only beginning to pay close attention to them. This is only the beginning. So, calm down and enjoy the ride.  

SapeleGuy:
I hope the senators back up this threat with some action and then the USA can retaliate by exposing the money launderers in senate and govt in general. Roll on 7 days.

Exactly my point. This "showdown" is really the best news of this year so far.

OMO IBO:
Although i agree with the article I believe it is a very cheap ploy to gain recognition.

I have seen cheaper and more treacherous ploys on nairaland. So no qualms.

Now this is more legitimate than a faceless and demented Becomrich chanting a dubious support for the USA by Yorubas.
The other thread was locked for lack of link. Let's see how this one fares.

Why was the Igbo supports USA thread locked while this one is still here?
KOSOVO, KOSOVO, KOSOVO, how many times did I call you?

govo:
freaks, give nepa utimatum to light up the nation , give yar adua utimatum to show up , give the minister  for transport utimatum to build roads and repair the bad ones, give utimatum to creat jobs , or shut up and stop yelling utimatum for something you cant do nothing about,  punks !

Classic!  

These politicians think we are fools. Deep down I think this "ultimatum" is one more piece in the final solution puzzle to change that country or break it. Nza the bird wants to fight his god. Instead of being angry at Nigeria's state of stu.pi.dity, politicians are scheming to remain under the radar when they smuggle currency out of Nigeria. I already know how this ends. Nonsense!

becomrich;:
Mekusxyz , we have already, did you not see my map before. The rest of you can go to the united nation and try your lucky. You need 128 countries to make your dream possible. while we join benin republic. good lucky.

@becomrich

Here is some elementary arithmetic:
What is
1+1 = ?
1+1+1= ?
1+1+1+1= ?

If you fail any of these, you should be banned from nairaland if the owner values his site.

What is interesting though is the deafening silence of the Yoruba forumites over your psychosis. The silence speaks volumes. I challenged your folks to rein you in, but they all looked the other way. Igbo people say that tacit support is as powerful as vocal support. The biggest hole in your benin republic delusion is your constant inclusion of Igbo, Edo, and Delta. You are scheming to make them minority (since you are obsessed with majority/minority) in your pipe dream country. The main question is, are you ready for war with MEND?

I hope people here realize that this whole discussion is hypothetical and all we are doing is find the fault-lines and go from there. It constitutes a tissue of i.di,ocy for anyone to assume that a southern Nigeria is cast on iron. We are only putting ideas forward; and when next anyone puts forward any idea, he/she should please back it up with logic or facts. Thank you!

becomrich;:
Mekusxyz, now you have already eliminated the yorubas and the unfair system we do not want in nigeria. that is what you want so you think , we would want to continue an unfair system?


Ezeachi , you were talking of Itsekiri, look you visit this itsekiri website, And do you know that the itsekiri and ilaje are nearly the same. Is Ilaje too not yoruba   Here is the Itseriki music from that website. Take that music to ondo state and people would tell you the meaning of the song.  what does that tell you.   And look we would not form a country that would not resolve our problem.
Our need most be address. And by the nonsense you are written, you are a selfish person who is so focus on your ethnics group. Who told you we have not made arrangment with the Benin republic  to join them.  You people are going to be with the north, the way you are going. You do not decide for us, we decide for ourself. What pays us and not you. And you are selfish and self centre. The capital if you must have must be in the centre. And I have show you. It is in Ondo state. You take it or leave it. If you dont agree, Y[b]ou would go with the north[/b].
And we would never agree to rotation. and if you do not agree with that you are going with the north. you better agree now. The capitAL stays in ondo and no rotation. if you dont agree , you are going to go with the north. if you doubt me. it is democracy.  Take that from me.

http://itsekiri.org


http://itsekiri.org/files/common/mediaplayer-3-16/playlist.xml

A real raving lun.a.ti.c
You develop high fever because someone expressed his opinion, but you dare open your gap about other regions without any qualms. Your line of reasoning marks you out as an atavistic treacherous mud.a.fukcer!
I hope your yoruba folks here whip you in line. Else, this your brand will stick with your people. Inoki.

Residency is the next issue. I support an arrangement that confers full or permanent residency after a number of years-e.g. 2 years. After that, you qualify for elections and all other benefits enjoyed by everyone else from the region. This system will help unite the country more.

Mekusxyz:
Are you implying that you cannot get merit within the different regions? How is Switzerland coping with the rotational presidency thing? I have advocated for it in the curreny system, and it will be hypocritical of me not to continue with that advocacy in a new outh Nigeria, based merely on the FACT that in a NEW south Nigeria, Igbos will automatically assume a befitting political status as a majority tribe. Rotational presidency will help the minorities taste power and contribute to national development in an equitable way. There is no region without competent persons.

We are really saying the same thing in a way -calming minority fears is paramount. I however add that a merit based system should ultimately replace it because a successful federalism is based on "spirit" rather than laws (like the great Ikemba said). To suppress the political ambition of an "Obama"  just because it is not the turn of his section of the country to produce the president appears too much like what we have now.
Even minorities won't care about the president's region provided we overtake South Africa as Africa's top country.
So, the spirit must be that of merit because every southern region can produce an Obama in a new dispensation. The more we see ourselves as one and the same, the better for the new country. I want a country where we can all identify with every inch of it and defend it with our blood. It is all in the spirit.
I know I may be dreaming, but hey who says dreams never happened.