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invisible!:I really take offense at your reasonings in this thread. It is my personal philosophy never to argue with an Igbo here over something fundamental but you have forced me to say this. Your grouse with Biafran agitators is that in your opinion they are too dumb to understand war and it's consequences. I haven't found a single Biafran agitator here calling for war. None! Yet you are here justifying a 40 year policy to deny an international airport to your own people (if you are really Igbo- you don't sound like one!), thereby forcing them to migrate to other places in search of livelihood. What type of Igbo are you anyway All the other regions with international airports, how much weapons have they imported? There is an international airport in Port Harcourt and Maiduguri, two hot spots in Nigeria. How can you justify a policy of forcing your people to live in hostile areas. Someone here boasted that Igbo can never survive in Igboland. Of course he is right because we have no international access, thanks to years of deliberate isolation. What the F*ck are you talking about ![]() |
Why should we Igbos even care about anything going wrong in Naija. The history of that country from the 50s to the present have shown we always try to do the right thing. Zik couldn't turn his back on the north before independence. He could have formed a country without the north, even if they remain under British rule for ever (who cares anyway). But, no! He had to wait for them! I don't think anyone doubts that Zik is the real father of "Nigeria". Again in 1966, after the fall operation wetie crisis in the west in 1964 after election riggings, it was young Igbo military officers who tried to save the day by toppling the system to make Awo the leader of Nigeria. What was the result? Igbos got massacred all over Nigeria and the coup termed "Igbo coup". If it was Igbo coup, why did they not kill Awo in Jail too? Then Biafra came and Awo paid Ndigbo back in "good coin". As recent as the Abacha life presidency plot, it was Ekwueme who led real opposition to that [/b]and luckily, Abacha died. Again [b]Senator Kenechukwu Nnamani sacrificed his political future to oppose Obasanjo's third term/life term schemes. He could have simply played along and I bet you he would still be the Senate president today. He lost out and all Igbos lost out and for the first time in Nigeria, an Igboman is not even the fourth citizen in Nigeria. So, my question again, why should Ndigbo care about whether Nigeria goes to hell, especially at the risk of being misunderstood and oppressed by an unappreciative nation. Can we be selfish for once ![]() |
$osisi:Welcome back $osisi ![]() |
I have often wondered why Igbos have to seek justice and fairness in Nigeria all the time. Why can't Igbos simply just join the Yorubas and Hausas to exploit the Niger delta? Why can't Igbos just forget about fairness for once. It is obvious that no one is appreciating Igbo efforts at moving Nigeria forward through fairness. Someone here even referenced Charles Chukwuma Soludo as another example of Igbo greed! The best Central Bank of Nigeria Governor in my lifetime (so far) is termed a greedy man! Haba! Nigeria is already moving from making the Naira "a reference currency in Africa" to amassing foreign debt again within a few months of Soludo's ouster. I think the question is, can Ndigbo just forget about justice and fairness for once and simply join the feast, even if the host turns into Somaliland? |
bombay: ![]() "marry" was in context. |
sjeezy8:Allow us to have an international airport first and then watch what will happen. Throw in even an Onitsha or Oguta port and see Lagos empty in a matter of few years. Like I said before, really smart Igbos are not buying land in Lagos. Smart Igbos are waiting until Nigeria is negotiated and every part is allowed to develop before buying land. |
So na "passing six" Igbo guys de dominate you for Lagos Na wa o! O yes now I remember where the educated Igbos are, in the US of course. Guys like Emeagwali. London is boring! |
ChinenyeN:I agree with you. I'm speaking of my side of Igboland. Let's rest it there and not change the topic,k? thanks ![]() |
yommyuk:Igbo don't need to be driven out. Just allow us to have an international airport first. We can talk about sea port later. I guarantee you Igbos will leave Lagos without you trying. It's part of why smart Igbos are not buying properties in Lagos yet. The values will drop like stone eventually. |
oyinda.:I've been trying to ignore you 'cos you piss me off. But a little lesson won't kill me either. The younger woman sleeps with the only husband in the house. Are there two men in an African marriage? (certainly not in Igboland) The younger woman does everything with the husband of the older woman, except claim the kids. The older woman fends for her and takes care of her. Any day she wants her to leave, she is gone -minus the kids (though it doesn't usually happen).In fact a secondary school friend of mine is from such marriage. His mum was the junior woman, but the only "mum" he knows is the older woman. He is an architect today. |
ChinenyeN:In traditional Igbo, especially in the olden days, a woman who has passed the childbearing age (post menopausal ) marry younger women to bear children for their husbands. Those children are traditionally recognized as hers (ie they belong to the older woman), the child bearer lays no claims whatsoever on those children. Of course the relationship between them is not sexual. Such women are also able to hold certain titles and religious positions. Igbo culture envisages barrenness and age, and makes provisions for them traditionally. All these started to change with Christianity and westernization. |
ChinenyeN:Tell that to those who say Ndigbo cannot be trusted with presidency. Tell that to my cousin who was nearly killed by a Yoruba for a position in Shell. Tell that to all Igbo kids who are denied admission into federal schools because of quota system. Tell that to the Igbo business man in the east who go through thousands of police check points everyday just to conduct their legitimate business. I can go on. I think Nigeria works the nerves far more. |
oyinda.:In Igboland, a wise woman is traditionally recognized as a man. She can even "marry" another woman! ![]() |
asha 80:Word my bro! |
sjeezy8:All that the Igbos need to do is to accept the "come and eat" offer from the Yoruba and they will no longer be "bitches".Amazing ![]() |
invisible!:I really wonder why some Nigerians find it difficult to figure out their problems Of course Igbo are NOT AFRAID OF STAYING IN NIGERIA, but they want a real chance for general progress. Aren't you tired of being maltreated as a Nigerian overseas? The unscrupulous ones among Ndigbo don't care about the state of things in Nigeria. They don't care if Nigeria is Somaliland provided they make money. The real Igbos have conscience and want things to work for everyone. That is why we have been misunderstood in Nigeria. If Igbos decide today to join the Yoruba and the Hausa/Fulani in raiding the Niger delta oil, all the Igbo hatred will end, today! Even some of the haters from the N/delta will start liking the Igbo because then, they will not be looking at a brother but an oppressor. It was Machiavelli who theorized that it is better to be feared than loved.I really wish that some N/deltans will realize that nothing stops the Igbo from joining the oppressor. Absolutely nothing! And the longer the N/deltans buy into this Igbo fear, the more the Igbo join the oppressors. For those who ask why the Igbo keep investing in other areas, have you wondered why the Onitsha and Oguta ports were not developed. Why Igboland (one of the majority tribes) lacks an international airport? Have you wondered what will happen if Igboland is allowed to function (airport, seaport)? The Abiola riots forced some Igbos to relocate their business from Lagos to Nnewi and I can tell you that people come from all parts of Africa to buy certain things from Nnewi. Now, imagine what will happen if Igbos can relocate. The entire Nigerian economy will move eastwards! Lagos will become like an empty shell. Ontisha and other Igbo towns will boom overnight. Tinapa will come alive at last if the Cross River state government is serious. Ask the right questions. |
I challenge anyone to show me the difference between this Ijaw group here in the video and any Igbo music, dance and cultural reality. Any Igbo from Abia can dance this song the exact same way. The lies against these two tribes won't last long. Just wait! ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KcjjmoYG-k watch the video first, then comment. |
naijaking1:Ibime is a poster who commands a lot of my respect here. I tend to see his point very easily, though I may not agree with him. Nevertheless, I also think you hit the nail on the head here. Anytime I listen to Cardinal Rex Lawson, I get shivers! Most of us simply knew him as a Cardinal. His song called us to a common purpose. He remains immortal! It is interesting that apart from Ojukwu, that most active Biafran operators were from Ijaw or Ibibio and Annang. They were fiercely Biafran. I never knew that until recently. otukpo:The day oil finishes is the day Nigeria's problems gets solved, because only then will true friends and true associations emerge, not ones based on greed and envy. Even then, the Igbos and Ijaws will remain neighbors. For good or for ill. |
The best news today in Nigeria is that the real south south (Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Bayelsa and Delta) are beginning to assert themselves. It's only a matter of time before the lairs will run out of lies. . Oil is going, going , |
okokomeji:Nigeria's failure does not rest in your hands, so stop shouting yourself hoarse! The evil seed your Yoruba ancestors sowed in Nigeria has grown into a giant tree and it is bearing fruits bountifully: no electricity, no healthcare, no protests or demonstrations, shoot at sights, election rigging and selections, kidnapping and armed robbery everywhere, islamic extremism, BOKO HARAM, massive theft of public funds, life presidency, the most notorious country on earth and the list goes on and on, Like I said in one thread, Ndigbo don't need to do anything, MEND is already shaping things up. Sooner or later your worst fear will happen -no more oil for you. I pity you then. When people like you talk, it sounds like Ndigbo entertain too much fear about staying in Nigeria. We don't. It's only that we like progress unlike you and your tribe. We are already dominating you in your own backyard and soon we will colonize you in Yorubaland because we work harder than you. The only crime Ndigbo committed in Nigeria was to dream of a better country where things actually work. Where we don't become a pest to the international community (I know Yoruba are never ashamed of anything!). Where leaders can be held accountable without being shot at sight. If we had that today in the east (not the PDP impositions) we could still build a region which your type can only dream of. But, like I said before, people who have different views of progress and of the future have no business being in one country because my "genocide" might be your "little punishment". My "grand theft" might be your "petty theft". My send of outrage might be your business as usual. So, you and I, your people and my people have no business staying in one country. But then again, you are afraid of that too! How pathetic!!But keep up with the hate. The future does not belong to your type (cowards and thieves of other peoples properties). For us Ndigbo, head or tail in that country, we win! Biafra or not, we win! Biafra might be better for you. But then again, you might not be smart enough to realize that! I tire o! |
adigun101:The ultimate truth is that they are really one people, never mind the lies. They formed Biafra (through the Eastern house of assembly).The lies started in 1967 when the divide, conquer and rule started. The Igbo of the midwest then wanted to join Biafra with the Igbo east of the Niger but changed when the war went bad. If Biafra had succeeded, present day Delta State would have been shared between Biafra and whatever country the Edos decided to join or form. For the Biafrans it was not an Oil war, it was a war of survival. For the Nigerians, it was an oil war, hence the confusion. Biafra was made up of many tribes with cultural, historical and religious ties. The oil was mainly in the minority areas of Biafra and Ojukwu was defending the whole of Biafra. If Ojukwu had given the oil to the Nigerians, maybe they would have let Biafra go. Just my thinking. Ojukwu was a resolute leader. He could not betray Biafrans in any way. Giving the oil away would have betrayed Biafrans whose lands host the oilfields. He didn't do that. It is unfortunate that some of the same people he fought for turn around to castigate him today. The lies are beginning to wear off though!
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ezeagu:Are you sure this slowpoke called Kobojukie is Igbo? If Kobojunkie is a she, then she must be one the ugliest babes in Igboland that couldn't find an Igbo husband. Probably married into one of these Igbo hating tribes and now feels like she can pick a bone with her ancestors. In the olden days she'd be sold into slavery! ![]() |
tpia.:I really think that the lesson of 1966 is that people who cannot share a common vision (no matter how flawed) have no business forming a nation. Only those with similar visions for the future should come together to form a nation. The gross misunderstanding of 1966 laid the foundation for a 43 year suppression of about 40 million people whose vision of the future in 1966 has proven correct in 2009. We want a nation were we can stage a demonstration about anything without being shot at sight or anyone seeing a tribal angle. This is not idealism. This is realism. A lion and a goat cannot share a home. Neither can a monkey and a banana tree. Let all lions come together and live in one house and let all goats share a different house too. Nigeria's independence from the British in 1960 was incomplete. Since the genocide of 1966 to 1970, all other attempts to redesign the country has failed. No one wants to experience the Biafran experience, certainly not the yoruba and some south southerners (like Edo people) who were not part of Biafra. So, the north or anyone for that matter can rule Nigeria anyhow and for any length of time without anything happening. Biafra's loss is Nigeria's massive loss! |
Chiddysville:I kind of disagree with this point. In fact I believe that Nigerians have risen up several times to challenge the status quo but all they have ever received was[b] mass murder[/b] and shoot at sights. This is where those who use the January 1966 coup to castigate Ndigbo always make a huge mistake. That coup was supposed to lead to other things (like freeing Awolowo to assume leadership). It went horribly wrong when mischievous people started to inject tribalism into it. Then came the Biafran revolution (a revolution meant to correct all ills of Nigeria) complete with a political and social vision tilted the Ahiara declaration. Every Nigerian must read this declaration before ever attempting to blame Biafra and Ndigbo. When supposed statesmen like Awolowo stood by and watched as innocent Nigerians were massacred for questioning the legitimacy of Nigeria. When Awo and Enahoro supported the use of starvation as weapons of war to suppress Nigerians who dared the system and took up arms which lead to the death of about 2 million people. That was when the seed of genocidal suppression was sowed in Nigeria. Since then, the security forces have killed anyone who dared demonstrate decisively against coups, election rigging and imposition of leaders. And you would think that Nigerians have learned something from history, but no! You still find in Nairaland here, people who taunt the Igbo for "losing their foolish war". You still find people here who says things like "serves those stupid igbos right". You still find people who blame the Igbo for wanting to reshaped Nigeria. People who wonder why Biafran soldiers entered Midwest and was heading for Lagos. Biafra was undergoing a revolution! You bring about change through revolutions. Nigerians will never rise to do anything even if one man decides to rule for eternity! That is why Obasanjo tried it, and Yar adua is currently scheming for it. Like I said before, our problem has nothing to do with the British. We can fix our country ourselves. Someone here said that Nigerias are stupid people. He may be right because some people here are so blinded by their hatred of Igbos, that they cannot know when that hatred transforms into self defeatism. If someone has a good vision, let's try to find out how that vision will work instead of seeing his tribe first. The north and west have ruled Nigeria since the end of the Biafran war. Nigeria still don't have even electricity today. So their collective visions for Nigeria have failed! Let's try something really smart! |
Andre Uweh:I believe that Southern Nigeria was ready for independence in 1960. The North was not ready then and would never have been ready. Having said that, I think the quote below from Chidichris captures some of my sentiments. to me, this question does not exist.That apart, the first "nationalists" like Zik and Enahoro did us an immense disservice by demanding independence for a poorly constituted country. No one should blame the British. They were not in Nigeria as "father christmas". They were there to exploit and maximize the opportunities of colonization. If they saw an opportunity to plant people who were friends to the British interests, they would be fools not to exploit it to the fullest! That is what they did and that is why when the coup of January 1966 happened -which was a patriotic coup, the type being demanded by some commentators here-(as an Igbo with hindsight, I wish that coup never happened!), the British were quick to ensure a return to the status quo ante (an order they left behind) and also provided maximum support for Nigeria against Biafra. So Nigeria's current problems are deep. We were let down by our so called "founding fathers". I suspect they could have negotiated and extracted fairer and more sensible terms of independence from the British. If that happened, there would not have been a 1966 coup nor a civil war. In fact there would not have been a "Nigeria" as we have today. We could have created something workable. How sad! |
mikeansy:LOL! ![]() |
bashali:Any Igbo who sees cities and towns and mineral deposits as proof of wealth is either a non-Igbo or a lazy one(ezeagu is not included o! ). Since I am neither, I'm inclined to believe that Nigeria's biggest assets lie mainly in Igboland. I repeat, Nigeria's biggest assets as a nation are in Igboland and all the leaders of other ethnics know this fact. When I see the JAMB entrance and performance of candidates from Igboland and Igbo influenced areas (Old East) dating up to 10 years back, I know that oil is nothing!No mineral comes close to human capital, none! South Africa is the worlds biggest producer of gold, platinum and diamond, yet European nations with similar populations are way ahead in terms of GDP. The same applies to Saudi Arabia with the worlds largest oil deposits compared to South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. So, methinks that the biggest wealth in Nigeria today is in Igboland and it is NOT UNDER THE GROUND. Like I said before, all leaders of other tribes in Nigeria know this fact and I strongly believe that is why Biafra attracts fear and venom(even if Biafra is to be limited to only 5 south east states). But fear and venom will not address the real issue which is that Nigeria is not properly constituted at best, or should not be one at worst! |
@Bashali Like most southerners I wish Arewa republic materializes fast enough! God's speed Arewa! |
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All the other regions with international airports, how much weapons have they imported? There is an international airport in Port Harcourt and Maiduguri, two hot spots in Nigeria. How can you justify a policy of forcing your people to live in hostile areas. Someone here boasted that Igbo can never survive in Igboland. Of course he is right because we have no international access, thanks to years of deliberate isolation. What the F*ck are you talking about 


The evil seed your Yoruba ancestors sowed in Nigeria has grown into a giant tree and it is bearing fruits bountifully: no electricity, no healthcare, no protests or demonstrations, shoot at sights, election rigging and selections, kidnapping and armed robbery everywhere, islamic extremism, BOKO HARAM, massive theft of public funds, life presidency, the most notorious country on earth and the list goes on and on, Like I said in one thread, Ndigbo don't need to do anything, MEND is already shaping things up. Sooner or later your worst fear will happen -no more oil for you. I pity you then. When people like you talk, it sounds like Ndigbo entertain too much fear about staying in Nigeria. We don't. It's only that we like progress unlike you and your tribe. We are already dominating you in your own backyard and soon we will colonize you in Yorubaland because we work harder than you. The only crime Ndigbo committed in Nigeria was to dream of a better country where things actually work. Where we don't become a pest to the international community (I know Yoruba are never ashamed of anything!). Where leaders can be held accountable without being shot at sight. If we had that today in the east (not the PDP impositions) we could still build a region which your type can only dream of. But, like I said before, people who have different views of progress and of the future have no business being in one country because my "genocide" might be your "little punishment". My "grand theft" might be your "petty theft". My send of outrage might be your business as usual. So, you and I, your people and my people have no business staying in one country. But then again, you are afraid of that too! How pathetic!!