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PointB: Frankly Eze, the answer is that we are still waiting for dividend of having Okonjo Iweala, Pius Ayim, and the two national assembly deputies. I don't even know if they exist or not.

Well, our support for those fellows and indeed GEJ is not to be taken for granted. In the end, it still about development of Igboland. I am willing to give him 6months more and one year at most! If he is only interested in consolidating power for the sake of it, the GEJ and all our kiths and kins in his government are on there own!

GEJ will not use us to build a power base for the sake of it! We need something in return. The earlier he started showing his SE devolopment cards. the better for him. We cannot be taken for a ride!

Oga Johnathan, [size=16pt]time is running out![/size] You are my man, but there is no permanent friend in this jungle, you have to look Eastward ASAP, before we become restless. [s]I hope you know say when our own start, aboki own go be like child's play.[/s]

Everything you said it spot on!
For me, 6 months MAX.

nedu210: Ọha na Eze nl ndewo nu o, Eze, okwu gị dị nma, mana echeghị m na ọ dị nfe ide igbo izugbe nke(odide), odide na nwọta igbo izugbe nke(odide) bu ihe tara akpu nke ukwuu, ọbụlụ go di na onwelu onye ma edegha nke ọma, ọga afịa ndị na agugha ahu nwọta. Oga aka nma na ọnye ọbuna ga na ede izugbe nke ana asuasu anyi na akpọ (igbo etiti) dị ka onu ndị ugwu na ndị agbọ si dị, mana nke na amasị ghị m ma ncha bụ onu ndị.
Chukwu gọzia gị ma gọzia umu igbo nine.

Nsogbu adighi nwanne. Ihe ka mkpa bu ka anyi na ede Igbo oge nile, maka na o ga eme ka anyi muta ya karia. Ana m aguta ihe nile onye obula na ede na ebe a; soso na o odighi nfe igu ha nile.
Achoputara m na ide Igbo oge nile ne eme ka mmadu mara ede ka karia.
Ya mere onye obula jisie ike na ede Igbo.

Dalu nwanne.

Dede1: When I talk about Republic of Igbo land in the light of disintegration of Nigeria, whether peaceful or bloody, I meant every word of the statement. Nigeria has and will continue to use certain elements in Nigeria against Ndigbo. [/b]I am for anything that will lead to dismemberment of Nigeria. I tend to feign novice when Ndigbo talk about Onicha riverport, second River Niger Bridge at Onicha/Asaba and Enugu International airport. When I look at the environmental and structural condition of Igwe Ocha (Port Harcourt) international airport and number of international flights allowed into it, I conclude that the case of eastern region of Nigeria is more diabolical than people tend to perceive.

Bros [b]Dede1, Ndigbo si na "nti amara ama eji ya anu ihe, soso oji ka agaghi akpanye ya" -(a cut off ear can still hear, only that you cannot use it to hold colanut. Actually, this is a Nnewi proverb, and the interpretation may vary from one clan of Igbo to another). It basically means that I have already heard and acknowledged your point about us forming a Republic of Igboland, instead of Biafra. Nwanne, if we cannot even look the Nigerian devils in the eyes and tell them to give us our share of federal projects, how can we look international players in the eyes?
I personally believe that if Ndigbo cannot defeat Nigerian internal marginalization, that we will not survive international marginalization (oh it is out there!).
We must first rein in our people who claim to be representing us and hold them to account.
If they cannot give us a satisfactory account, we must run them out of town, one way or another.
The youths of Igboland are traditionally the enforcers of our mores.

achi4u: i said it before i will repeat saying it that untill we the youth of this present generation fight for our future there will be no headway,poverty and sqaulor will keep knocking on doorsteps.[/b]Too bad.

yes let the country divide inwhich ever way "peace or pieces" those that remain will continue to leave a decent life.

[b]we cant continue to leave in fear...always watching our back for fear of the unknown.

My brother you are right. The first step towards emancipation is to defeat fear and see it for what it is - something that can be defeated.
Anybody who is serious about emancipation MUST first conquer fear.
Obi okorobia ka eji aba ogaranya ( a youthful heart is necessary to defeat poverty).

Ileke-IdI:
You're the most wishy washy person on this board, you know.

You've said the opposite @bolded on several other threads. BTW, when did you start speaking for Ndigbo?

If you're their speaker, then Ndigbo is not ready for 204x, talkless of 2015.

You have desperately sought for my attention these past few weeks and I wouldn't give it. So you have resorted to lashing out on me and throwing things hoping that something sticks. lol
If you don't have anything sensible to contribute here, please move along. I ain't gat time for no groupie.

Chyz*:
Brother, I hope you now understand why I've been throwing dirty on jonathan. He is not in it for us. The projects such as Enugu having an international airport, 2nd niger bridge, and a seaport will never be completed and fully functional but will instead be used as a bargaining tool for jonathan's presidency in 2015. I will not say to much, and dont ask how i know, but Jonathan and some PDP rascals are working on bringing forth a candidate, who is of Urhobo origion, as the PDP candidate for Governor of Delta state for the 2015 election, it is not Great Ovedje Ogboru btw. He is no different than the rest. The Minister of Aviation has nothing to do with why Ibiam Airport was not included in the upgrades. She could only take orders. But, this doesn't mean she cant make noise but she would also need the SE political idiots* to back her.

If the bolded is what they are actually thinking, then they must be really stoopid, because I'm not even sure that any sane Igbo would support Jonathan by the end of next year, talkless of 2015. lol
The days of using the same projects to woo Igbo votes ended with Obasanjo, honestly. We voted Jonathan mainly because he is from the East, but if his government would marginalize us the most, then we would not even think before throwing him and his clonies under the bus WAYYYYYYY before 2015.

I'll be back later.

This question has bugged my mind for weeks and months now. It has got to the stage that I cannot sleep well at nights while pondering this question. I remember vividly how we lobbied (at least added our voices) to the appointment of Anyim Pius Anyim to the position of Secretary to the Federal Government. There are such other Igbo personalities now as Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and others. I would not be exaggerating if I say that we hold strategic positions in this government.

Why is Enugu International Airport "upgrade" looking like a glorified hen house project?
Why didn't the Federal Government include Enugu as one of the international airports to be concessioned alongside Lagos, Abuja, Kano and Port Harcourt?
Is it that Igbo heartlands must continue to be denied international access or something more sinister?

These PDP Igbo Federal officials should tell us what projects (any project at all) they have attracted to the SE. They are there because we voted for Jonathan.
As for Jonathan, unless he is not going to need Igbo votes again, he should take this personally.
This continued marginalization of Igboland, even with Igbo sons/daughters in strategic Federal positions should give us reason and pause for thorough introspection. I hate PDP (not that APGA has impressed me too much but it is still better than PDP in defending Igbo interests in Nigeria) for this reason. If any Igbo thinks that I'm wrong for hating PDP, he should come here and put forward a contrary view; let the readers decide. It is not enough that your local PDP governor may be working. It is time we start thinking COLLECTIVELY for our survival in Nigeria. If we cannot survive in Nigeria by confronting the local challenges, how can we survive out of Nigeria by confronting international challenges?

So, let's answer this question honestly.

Here I stand.

Signed,

Onlytruth, ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

jason123: PROUD-IGBO, thanks for the pics. Saw it yesternight when it was uploaded and decided not to comment but on waking up and seeing this again, I'll have to say its disheartening.

I am of the opinion that the SE needs to economically integrate and FAST! You have two states categorized as oil producing + Anambra, making three. It will do the SE leaders a lot of good if they could come together and build ONE GOOD airport ([size=14pt]although not viable according to data[/size], PH airport is still under-utilized but that's a topic for another day). If for anything, at least, for the psyche of the people.

Secondly, this is the sort of project I expect Rochas to take upon himself, as in, Sam Mbakwe airport. He needs to set an example of what SEastern leadership is about, you know, an ideology that can waken people.

My friend if you want to say the truth, say all of it; don't say half truths.
What do you mean by the bolded? You mean you have taken survey of all fliers using Lagos and Abuja international airports and found that they never terminate in SE? All these half hearted truths (which are really lies) cannot help you. We need our airports, and we will get them.

mens dept: The whole upgrading of Ibiam Airport in Enugu was just a bunch of BULLSHyt. Obansanjo promised this airport in his 1st and 2nd term, then Yar I Die in Arabia the same thing, and now Goodluck with the usual official policy of nothing Federal going to the East.

By the way, let me say that the problem is squarely on the Igbo folks. Yes, Enugu state has budgets/allocations yearly of over US $500 Million, with additional allocations from Abia (this state alone US $800 million) Imo, Ebonyi, and ANambra.

So why cant they (the pathethic leaders in SE, including APGA) build/upgrade their own goddammm airport? Why are they waiting for the FG who recently says they are upgrading the four standing int'l airports already, which would surely abolish any need to create/upgrade any more.

Guess they are hoping the villagers in Imo and Abia State are going to tax themselves again to build an airport, or Okpara and co to come from the grave to do it for them.

Igbo people remain a local people. Yes, no connection to the outside world, no world class structures, and no World Class leadership.

That sucks.

Yes I agree, but not for the reasons you give. I agree that we Ndigbo should take our destiny into our hands.
We need ACTIVIST governors, not all these so called "matured" (read led by the nose by the FG) kind of governors.
In fact I'm beginning to develop a hypothesis, and it is that the closer a SE governor is to the president and FG, the greater his inclination to throw Igbo interests under the bus.
If this continues, I would lead a strong campaign to ensure that no Igbo is ever elected Nigerian president, because it may even be better that others are marginalizing us than some iddiot "brother".

afam4eva: @mensdept
That airport is owned by the federal governement, so states have nothing to do with it. All they can do is to keep reminding the FG of the immense economic aiport of that airport. But isn't it obvious that the crop of politicians representing us don't care about our welfare and they are not interested in bringing up issues associated with the SE in order not to fall out of favour with the ruling class. They're all there for their selfish gains.

We young people have to start looking home because we're the only ones that can change things in Igboland. Even thoug I'm scared of going into politics for the fear of being gunned down, I think I'm changiing my mind gradually because I can't sit and watch this injustice go on for too long.

My brother I have since stopped thinking like the first bolded on any projects in SE. Igboland is NOT part of Nigeria, hence there is nothing like "federal government project" in SE. FACT. It is all our self help efforts; nothing more.
The Nigerians keep telling us in any way they can but we have refused to listen.
The PDP is a party of thieves designed from the blueprint of Nigeria (and every injustice embedded in it). The day we will kick PDP out of Igboland is the day our liberation will begin.
All PDP chieftains sent to represent us at the center are selfish thieves.
God will punish all of them.

WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR DESTINY INTO OUR OWN HANDS.

ndu_chucks: Congrats to the builders of this machine, though it looks like a fishing boat. Who named it Andoni, for goodness' sake? Andoni ko, An[b]ChiDuri[/b] ni. You have to be, at a minimum, bilingual to get that.

My friend I know that you eat a lot of "vegetables" abi na fodder.
Keep your lewd words off Nairaland.

nku5: www.vanguardngr.com

He added that Onitsha sea port when operational would be under serious security surveillance to check the proliferation of importation of illegal goods and arms and ammunition into the city.

I guess we shall see then. I only hope they don't go there to muzzle the port as they do to SE roads and other businesses all in the name of security. Let's have our port first.

jaybee: just read what you posted; uncivilized thoughts, barbaric language; an excited fool! i advise that you conquer your foolishness first.

C'mon my friend cool down. He was only joking. Some of you nairalanders lack a sense of humor.

It cannot possibly be right.

First off, I have to thank whoever conceived this idea and whoever completed it. Though I would hate for the damn craft to be used to stop anyone who may still want to secede from Nigeria, I still love the idea that a military hardware (no matter how simple, unsophisticated, and "ordinary" it looks)was designed and developed locally; I am always for local content in military hardware for ALL African states.
Having said that, I still noticed the usual Nigerian way of doing things -Navy engineers design Navy ship (abi na flying boat as someone said, lol ). Why not these engineers set up a local company (after they leave the navy) that researches and develops naval defense systems, that way more gifted civilian individuals who may not be navy personnel at all, can come in to really design something that can really scare someone, supply the local navy and export some for foreign exchange? In doing so, you kill five birds with one stone : create a sustainable local weapons development (private sector driven)program, create jobs, attract "civilian" talent, equip local navy with superior assets designed for it alone, and finally export some to earn foreign exchange.

Somehow I think that Nigerians know that already, but the usual Nigerian "nationalisation" of everything forces the whole thing through the same unsustainable, slow and "could be better" channels.

Well, congrats to GEJ. History will remember that he commissioned the first locally built craft for the Nigerian navy.

BTW I wouldn't know whether it is the first "local" navy craft, at least if you count what the Biafrans did. I could be wrong though.

Musiwa..:
If look at this picture , this is how ijawland look like. If someone invite you here, are you going to go.

Look it is most swamp, this is the reason, why ijaw people are poor..

then fit invite you for this place. Do you think, it is logical to form a country or region in a place like this. I dont know how you nigerian think.

[size=14pt]Do you think Nduka obaigbena can make money from this place[/size]. You have to think long time. and not short time , my friend.

If I critic an idea, i critic it for reasons..



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https://www.calacademy.org/academy/exhibits/naturalist_center/nnotebook/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/swamp.jpg

hehehe!

Musiwa no go kill me lai lai.

Nwa_Nimo: Mumu's. . . Una too dey complain . . .

Make UNILAG carry 'MKO LAG' or whatever . . .after Goodluck suppose collect GEJ_Oxford_Cambridge_Lag_London!




https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4688784127_0a4726615c.jpg

(GEJ's Twin)

Ol' boy I like this picture well well! hehehe!
It reminds me of some Nairaland characters.
Will add it to my archive ASAP.

I feel like I need to restate my position on state creation in Nigeria. I hate creation of new states except if it addresses the issue of imbalance of the geo-po zones. Be that as it may, I still oppose carving out Anambra LGAs into any goofy "golden fleece state" unless the people from that LGA support it overwhelmingly. We are fine in Anambra state.
So, here is my stand again.

Onlytruth: State creation is a form of attack against unity of sections/zones/regions in Nigeria. It is an indirect attack against Nigerian unity. I still see it as a continuation of attack against Nigerian unity by myopic and recidivist elements within Nigerian society. Ironically, the people who chant national unity are the ones behind this attack.
Just watch, as soon as the states are created, people from former same states will start to see themselves as "other".
Nigerians (nay Africans) somehow tend not to see bigger pictures. They tend to see more of "me, mine, ours" first.
Quite sad.

My state Anambra is a tripod of sorts: Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi. Each town brings something unique and powerful to the state. You can create your states and cut out whoever wants to leave, but any attempt to remove any of the three big strategic towns in Anambra into any goofy new state should be resisted by any smart Anambra man.

Carve out any of the three towns, and Anambra will cease to be a great state.
I warn my Anambra folks to put on a smart cap.
Ife nine na egbuke egbuke aburo ona edo!
Oburo otu a ka ife nlacha si ami.

Ogwukwa ka o ra m n'onu.

I have developed immunity to shocks as far as Nigeria is concerned.
Sitting this one out.

ekt_bear: Heh. Whether zoned to the north or not, a bear remains a bear.

Besides, perhaps it will be easier to destroy the north from within.

lol.

Dede1: Most Nigerians are bunch of moronic nitwits. The article did not say what constitutes legal and illegal when discussing the issue of drug factory. Does it mean the proprietor did not bribe the Nafdac to get all the necessary and sometimes inconsequential codes? I know want goes down with “pure water” and NAFDAC. I hope it is not the same scenario which applies to the drug factory.

What makes a drug fake? [/b]Did NAFDAC test for qualitative composition of ingredients in the drugs out of the clamped downed factory against the ones contained in the drugs it considered genuine? [b]Generic drugs are not by any means fake drug as few dullards would want us to agree.

lol. I was thinking the same thing. The way Nigerians bay for blood these days tells me that more and more Nigerians need mental help.
NAFDAC is the main problem here, because I cannot see how a "fake" factory would locate and function for MANY YEARS out of the Federal housing estate in Onitsha (practically on the Onitsha-Lagos highway) without anyone alerting the police.
People (due to a type of illiteracy) tend to mix up issues.
I personally would like to know the labels on the products, because that is a clear give away as to what the man is up to. If he labeled his products ANY thing other than his company's name, then IT IS A FAKE DRUG FACTORY; else it is NOT.

It is possible that NAFDAC is playing games; probably needed more bribe to allow the man continue his business. When he refused, they dubbed his factory fake. Just my hunch; but let's wait for the details (if we ever get to that stage!). Nigeria sef. SMH.

kingoflag: Talk about double speak at its finest: "I want it but I don't want it". Smh

My friend do you know that I represent a people with BROAD wants and needs in Nigeria?
Left for me, no state will be created in SE, rather, existing regions should be adjusted, and fair number of constituencies and senatorial zones assigned to each region to enhance fair representation at the center. I only support it to carry along my brothers who are on the other side of this issue, who believe they need a state created for them.
Some of you need your brains upgraded somehow.

State creation is a form of attack against unity of sections/zones/regions in Nigeria. It is an indirect attack against Nigerian unity. I still see it as a continuation of attack against Nigerian unity by myopic and recidivist elements within Nigerian society. Ironically, the people who chant national unity are the ones behind this attack.
Just watch, as soon as the states are created, people from former same states will start to see themselves as "other".
Nigerians (nay Africans) somehow tend not to see bigger pictures. They tend to see more of "me, mine, ours" first.
Quite sad.

My state Anambra is a tripod of sorts: Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi. Each town brings something unique and powerful to the state. You can create your states and cut out whoever wants to leave, but any attempt to remove any of the three big strategic towns in Anambra into any goofy new state should be resisted by any smart Anambra man.

Carve out any of the three towns, and Anambra will cease to be a great state.
I warn my Anambra folks to put on a smart cap.
Ife nine na egbuke egbuke aburo ona edo!
Oburo otu a ka ife nlacha si ami.

Ogwukwa ka o ra m n'onu.

chima12: A reorganisation of the geo-political zones is necessary to bring parity between them.each zone should have equal number of states,equal representation in the senate,equal number of representatives in the house of representatives.
Anioma state should be created.taraba state should be moved to north central,taraba is not supposed to be in northeast.southern kaduna should be carved out from kaduna and made a new state which should be in north central.for the sake of equality in political representation among all zones,8 new states should be created.one in SW,one in SS,one in NW,two in NE to compensate for taraba joing NC,3 in SE bringing the total number of states to 48.

My brother your equation is not balanced o.
Take a second look.

Umu Igbo kwenu ozokwa!

Ana m ekele kwa unu ozo!

Biko nu, onwere ihe m choro ka anyi tinye anya n'ime ya.
Ihe ahu bu maka ide Igbo izugbe (central written Igbo) n'ebe a oge nile.
Ama m na odighi nfe ide Igbo izugbe oge nile, mana o buru na onye obula jisie ike, o ga amuta ka esi ede ya.
Unu lee anya, unu ga ahu na ana m anwa! (i dey try no be small )
Soso ntupo bu ihe koro na Igbo m na ede n'ebe a. Mana onye mara agu Igbo, ga agu Igbo m na ede na enweghi nsogbu.
Mana ka o dina, ana m ekele unu maka ide na Igbo.
O dighi nfe!
Jisie nu ike.
Chukwu gozie unu nile.

O bu m,

Eze Onlytruth, Ndu di n'eziokwu nke mbu na ala Igbo. Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

odumchi: Igbo onwere otu uche baram na isi kita kita.

Unu echere na o di nma oburu Eze na Igwe nile no na ala Igbo biara ye na iwu na onye umu ya amaghi asu Igbo enweghi ike iga ana aha puru iche (Ozo na Nze)?

Nke a bu omalicha atumatu puru iche!
Emee ya, umu nwoke Igbo nile, ndi na acho iche nze na ozo ga ebido igba mbo rinne ihu na umu ha ma asu Igbo ofuma.

Ana m ekele gi Odum maka olu oma di iche iche i na aluru umu Igbo na Nairaland.
Jisie ike nwanne.

Kc3000: Something is amiss here. This is exactly how Fulani people have attacked in all their fights in recent years, ask any of their victims in the middle belt. . .they arrive in the middle of the night, surround their target, and they particularly take measures to diminish the likelihood of anyone escaping. Lest I forget, they also have a fetish for beheading their victims.How do you attack your immediate neighbors, in the middle of the night, maiming and killing all in sight(women and children included), when you are not at outright war? Fulani never had a problem with these types of operations, because they hit you and keep it moving to another location. The gruesomeness, the tactics deployed and the sheer number of people killed(40) in one swoop, just screams FULANI to me. I could be wrong, but that is just my gut feeling.

I was beginning to think that our people have lost their goddamn minds for not spotting this clear sign you noticed.
How can that skip people easily? Na wa o!

THIS SCREAMS FULANI TO ME!

I personally suspect that one village contracted the Fulani on their land (with grazing lease rights) to attack the other on their behalf. Talk about a sure way to hand your land over to foreign invaders masking as cattle men.
Are their smart folks left on both states? What are those herdsmen still doing there? They should leave ASAP.

Andre Uweh: Ogbomosho or Oyo town can be the capital.
Ibadan state capital can be located at Moniya. There is so much land there for development.
The two states from the south east should be no1: Njaba-the biggest with 12 LGA's from Imo state and Ihiala in Anambra state. No 2: Enyimba or Aba state with 9 LGA's.

How do you know that Ihiala folks would want to be carved out of Anambra state?
I would consult far and wide there before carving them into another state, else there will be trouble.
Let those eager for states be carved up and be given the states.
State creation involving LGA's should even be put up to a vote (referendum of sorts). We need to start practicing true democracy.

I hate state creation, unless it addresses the issue of inequality between the so called zones (I quarrel with the zones anyway, go ask Musiwa ). If SE balances with other zones. Fine.
But no one should carve out any local government from Anambra state unless the people there want it.
As far as I can see, we are fine there.

ndu_chucks: Beaf, lets hope this is not one of your double speak situations. The bolded above is obviously dispicable and unfortunate and so are these atrocities.

(1)Northerners and their leaders including their revered spiritual leader, Sadauna were gunned down in cold blood by Nzeogwu Chukwuma and his gang.

(2)Ndigbo and other Easterners paid the price in blood for the actions of a few because of the resulting pogroms.

(3)Gowon's failure and inability to protect the innocent civilians from the pogrom before and during the civil war

(4)Summary Execution of midwesterners by invading biafran troops.

Item 4 has not yet been proved to my own satisfaction from all i have read here. I believe Gowon may have offered apologies for items (2) and (3) above, if not, I offer an unreserved apology on his behalf.

Which brave Ndigbo on NL would offer an unreserved apology for items (1) and (4)? Onlytruth does not count for obvious reasons.

The truth is that we'll never know the truth about every detail of the war. It has become quite difficult to distinguish between historical facts and revised historical facts. Its time to bury the hatchet, join hands, form whatever alliances are necessary, and move our country forward.

For those of you whose objective is to break up the country, your fellow tribesmen who control the econonomic, military, and political power, will put you in where you belong if you try to flex weak muscles. With or without you breakup artists, Nigeria shall become greater.

@Bolded. My friend sharaap dia! You have NO LOCUS to offer the apology. According to Northsharp (a REAL Hausa/Fulani), you are a "Banza Bokwai" eddiot trying desperately to be accepted by the real mallams.
You are an inferior northerner. lol
We may only accept apologies from a real Hausa or Fulani or Gowon himself.

^
Sam my brother, where have you been? We have discussed the above in the "council". We are waiting your own contribution.