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PhysicsQED: Ejoor pointed out that it would be necessary to determine what arms and ammunitions had arrived and what each unit of the Army had before any further distribution would take place, the Supreme Military Council unanimously adopted a Declaration proposed by Lt.-Col. Ojukwu, that all members:

a. renounce the use of force as a means of settling the Nigerian crisis; b. reaffirm their faith in discussions and negotiation as the only peaceful way of resolving the Nigerian crisis; and c. agree to exchange information on the quantity of arms and ammunition available in each unit of the Army in each Region and in the unallocated stores, and to share out such arms equitably to the various commands; d. agree that there should be no more importation of arms and ammunition until normalcy was restored.

This is only good on paper. It was not good enough on the ground because of the likelihood of war then.
It is like a situation whereby two people A and B are contesting a piece of land. A is armed with 10 guns, while B is armed with 2 guns. As part of peace process, both agree that each should not add to weapons stockpile on each armory.
If I were A, of course I would agree and keep the agreement. But if I were B, the agreement would not be worth more than the paper on which it was written. That is part of the point I'm making about getting a strong foreign ally, because that is the only way for me to equate the weapons.
This is why the cold war lasted for years even though there was a Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) reality. It didn't start to recede until President Reagan insisted on "we sign, but we verify" doctrine.

Dede1: Bros, we all have our personality thing which runs unparallel to each other. As for the case of Cameroon’s support, there is nothing you could have done to change the mind of Ahmadu Ahidjo the president of Cameroon who was rumored to have hailed from Adaamawa.

If you ever believed on the essence of meetings and accords of Aburi, Ghana, there is little you could have done because Gowon and Nigeria used it as a smokescreen to build up military units in preparation for invasion of eastern region. This is the point where the British agents really earned their money.

The personality of some people in Biafra, especially Ojukwu, did not resonate well with colonial masters and those willing to pillage Africa during the era. If the same opportunity to secede presents itself today, the game would have been different ballgame even among the so-called minorities.

My brother thank you for the bolded!
I was not there, and have not even read what Gowon was doing during the interregnum between July 1966 and May 1967; I would be shocked it he wasn't, because I WOULD BE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING, only much much more.
For me, the moment the first Eastern consultative assembly failed in August 1966, I would head overseas to seek alliances. Period.
If I came back empty handed by December 1966, every position I take from Aburi, down to May 1967 would reflect that reality (though I wouldn't allow the enemy to know). Ojukwu was a genuis at Aburi! Ojukwu ji egbe mgbo na adighi merie ndi ji egbe mgbo di n'ime ha! hehe
I hate losing any war. I have never lost any "war" in my life. Honestly. I fight less wars of course. Life itself is war. lol.
Your point is well noted my brother.

Logic Mind: Onlytruth please tell me,
What concessions are you willing to give to our minority neighbours in order to gain their support [/b]or are you expecting them to help you realise your dream without any indemnification?

I was not talking about more concessions. I was talking about the fact that Chief Harold Dappa Biriye, and Isaac Adaka Boro (and their followers in Eastern region) were REAL issues (because they were Hausa/Fulani allies) that should have factored more into Biafran war calculus.
However, [b]my main point (if you go back on this thread) is that Biafra did not obtain strong foreign support, and because of that failure, should have taken the next (though less than secession) position. If Biafra had secured say a US support, then of course the calculus changes again, and we may well not care what anybody thinks locally. Please note the may. My only concern is that we should have put the war WAY BEYOND any local event against us. It was not done.
We the younger ones should not repeat the mistake.

At this time, I have to state that I do not believe that Decree 8 was sufficient to assuage the Eastern demands.
It was not.
I also believe that the war was not a personality clash between Ojukwu and Gowon. To say that is even laughable because, if that was the case, why is it that Nigeria is back to pre-1967 scenario in 2012?
The East had GENUINE reasons to reject Decree 8. Let's keep both issues (Decree 8. and Midwest incursion) apart.
Joining both issues muddles the waters and allow revisionism to go haywire.

At this time I have to restate again my constant views on Ojukwu and the efforts of our fathers.
I would fight anyone who insults Ojukwu. He did his BEST for Biafra. He is our ICON. He was also a man, and so was not infallible. He will remain an ANCHOR as we map our path towards the future. For that future to succeed, it must fix errors from the past.
The only reason I even comment on these types of topics is because I am DETERMINED to ensure that history never repeats.
The advantage we the younger Igbo have today is that we have history to learn from and improve upon the achievements of our fathers. Of course everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I know that superior logic and sanity will win at the end of the day.

Logic Mind: This is the problem I always have with people assuming things without properly listening to what I said exactly. Reread my post and tell me where I said we were superior to anybody.
You are wrong. Igbos are NOT the same as any other group anywhere.
We have our history, we have our pride. Like a lot of other tribes.
This history neither makes us superior nor inferior to anybody. It rather completes us and define us.
What you, Eze Onlytruth, are doing is actually making us seem inferior and look like we need the support of minorities before we can be free. We don't.
If we are not big and strong enough to take care of our own and of our destiny in our hands alone, then maybe we are not ready to have our own country.

But this evident truth apart, you still have not answered my question? What exactly do we need from these minorities that we don't have or can't get on our own?

You still don't understand me and the examples I gave.
When I state here that if Biafra had my type in the war room THERE IS NO WAY WE WOULD HAVE LOST THAT WAR. I mean every word of it!
Humility is not a sign of weakness. In most wars it is even a sign of strength.
If I can squeeze water out of stones in swamps to give Biafra the edge, I would do it. If I can extract even 1% more support for Biafra, I would go for it. I wouldn't have lost Camerounian support sef, talk less of Eastern tribe support. Our enemies in Nigeria then were the Hausa/Fulani, but guess who fought us? The minorities of the North!
Honestly, you don't understand.
A quote I love a lot is from Shaka Zulu again: "A leopard is a strong animal, but if offered wings, it would be a fool to reject them." I would go for those wings, or tails or feathers or claws even as a leopard that I am. lol.
It is called being smart.
The allied forces could have ignored tiny gulf states while they planned the first gulf war. They didn't. For a good reason. The Iraqis ignored them and even threatened them; well, where is Saddam Hussein today?
The point is that if these people are not our DIRECT IMMEDIATE neighbors, then you would have a point. To plan a secession without being sure of what your immediate neighbors would do, is not smart at all.

shymmex: Interesting thread!!

But I have a question for: Dede1, Logic Mind, Eziachi (Sir), Onlytruth, and Beaf..

- If the number of Igbos in the Nigerian army before the pogrom was almost the same as that of the Northerners - why didn't they fight against the pogrom, rather than let the Northerners kill them off so easily

*I'm asking a honest question, with no pun intended*

The North made up a HUGE majority in the lowest ranks. How can one Major stand against 200 privates?
That is the answer to your question (if you are serious).

Logic Mind: I don't know if we could agree on this subject of our relationship with our south south neighbours. You think and act like we need them. They take the cue and act like we need them. I say we don't need them. I have given some of my reasons previously. Your stance is making us look subservient to these southerners.

The first bolded is not true at all. What is true though is that, as someone who is determined to tow a DIFFERENT PATH from the ones which were historically proven to be GRAVE MISTAKES made by my fathers in their NOBLE efforts to give us a future progressive space, I seek GOOD alliances, not just alliance for alliance sake. A strong Ogoni support, to me, is far better than a halfhearted or weak Ijaw support. Even the greatest country with the strongest military in the world, sought worldwide alliance before engaging a far weaker country. Strategic alliances makes a war easier to win. The SS is made up of tens of different tribes. It is almost obtuse to address all of them with the same brush. So, let us always remember the ethnic complexity of SS. And NO it does not make us look weaker; it makes us look SMARTER.

If you are going to lead the igbo people you should at least accomodate our mentality: we do not like being seen as subservient to anybody. We have too proud a history for that.

The above comment is TOTALLY WRONG AND SHOULD BE REPUDIATED BY ALL IGBO.
You know why? Because that is exactly what the "minority" groups in that region accuse us of. Who wants to be subservient to anybody? Today we say that Hausa/Fulani has been ruling Nigeria, but the truth is that it is the Northern minority tribes that have been ruling. That is called being politically sophisticated. It is not being subservient.

Thank God that a MAJORITY OF IGBO these days don't share in this your chauvinistic opinion. I disavow it totally.

Igbo are the same as every other group in the East. To single us out as people who think themselves superior to others is unacceptable to us and our interests. It is same mindset that some Igbo hold against other Igbo within the Igbo nation. Nobody is, and should be subservient to anybody in the East or in Nigeria as a whole. When we seek Biafra, we seek it because we think (and know)that in Nigeria, there is a master/servant relationship between the North and the South politically. That is how we ended up with many incompetent Northern leaders through the years. If we are serious about Biafra (even an Igbo only country), this mentality MUST die a natural death.

alj harem: You respect them because they said they want Akwa ibom and co to be part of baifra or you respect them because of their OBJECTIVE OPINION ?

Indeed Mazi Eze

@Bolded, NO that is not why I respect them and you know it you maggot. I respect people like him because he understands that if we unite in the East, it would be easier for us to get a Biafra, from which he and his people can secede later if they don't like it. This single act of collective thinking is part of why it seems like the North is indomitable in the Nigerian political games.

hehe! It is not easy being the one and only PointB.
Haters gon' hate. We know the real deal. No shaking.

@Topic

My passion is, and has always been shaped by a very wise saying by a very wise man. Here it goes:

SHOW ME A MAN WHO WOULD NOT COMPROMISE, AND I WOULD SHOW YOU A MAN WITH ROCKS FOR BRAINS.

Everything in nation building -whether starting a new nation, or building an old one, DEPENDS on compromise.

If this wisdom had been applied, Biafra would have been actualized. The journey of one thousand miles starts with a step.
One of the people from SS here that I respect is one guy called Careytommy. He is from Akwa Ibom and supports Biafra.
His own reason? That it would be easier for Akwa/Cross to secede from a future Biafra than current Nigeria. Smart dude!
That is the type of reasoning that gets results, not my way or the highway type of reasoning.

This is part of why I work hand in hand with the Beaf's of South South. I'm taking a closer look at PhysicQED these days too.Let the debate continue.

The "invasion of the midwest", as you call it, was neither a mistake nor a miscalculation but rather a master stroke from a master of war.
It was as devastating for nigeria and its allies as it was unexpected.
It was so unexpected that at first, the nigerian top military officials in Lagos dismissed the early reports.
It was so unexpected that Biafran forces met practically no resistance all the way to Benin.
It was so unexpected that Nigeria did not have any contingency plans for such occurence.
It was so unexpected that The 3MCDO abandoned its operations in Bonny and sent two third of its men toward Benin.
It was so unexpected that Lagos elites had already started leaving the country when the news came that we were in Ore.
It was so unexpected that even Gowon panicked and had his presidential jet ready with pilots on 24hr call in order to leave at the shortest notice.
It was so unexpected that Nigeria halted hostilities in Nsukka sector and started sending troops back to Ibadan.

This was no "invasion of the midwest" but a direct attack towards Lagos that if it had succeded would have brought the war to an abrupt end.

@My brother Logic

Let's not mix things up. Everything you noted in the comment above is correct. If you research my past post on this subject, you'd see that I have always maintained that the march westwards was a march towards Lagos. Nothing more.
BUT, where you and I disagree is in the outcome. That is why I said it was a mistake. BTW I did not say it was a tactical mistake. I said it was a STRATEGIC mistake, hence its eventual failure, and impacts in the war.
You yourself acknowledge that the choice of Banjo to command the force was a mistake. You don't switch commanders so late in the game after Banjo had reneged.
My brother, honestly, a mistake was made, which is why the mission failed. Wouldn't you at least accept this much?
Also wouldn't you agree that the failure of that mission made Biafran secession plan much much harder?

@Northsharp

Well at least you have posted something at last, after stalking this thread for MANY DAYS. You basically come here, read, put your tail between your legs and leave. SMH

As for my theory, I could be speaking literally or figuratively. I know you've heard about how Israel fought wars and won immediately after the state was declared independent. You must also have heard about the 6 days war and who won. Those would not have been possible for Israel without strong foreign strategic support. So the extent of your laughter is directly proportional to the degree of your mental derangement.

PointB: Caveat

It has long come to our notice that many parade this forum bearing monikers similar to Igbo names and parade themselves as igbo sons and daughters.

While we have no quarrel with anyone who wants to identify with the uniqueness of Igbo people and culture, we however frown at those who mis-use this opportunity to slander and cause division among the same people they want to associate with.


To this end, kindly be informed that despite his pretense and high wire game of brinkmanship, Okija_juju and his many alias was, and is not fit and proper to be called - Igbo. Time and time again he has cracked under observation, and has no idea what it takes to be an Igboman. A simple userid with an Igbo name does not make him or anyone Igbo.


Anyone who entertains him in the name of bantering or exchanging ideas with an Igboman does so at his/her expense.


This message is without prejudice to what the Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland and his illustrious cabinent members may conclude. It is however an advance warning that Okija_juju is a crafty pretender and a dangerous interloper who should be approached with extreme caution by Igbos and their allies!

To be forewarned is to be fore armed.

Pointb

This message is endorsed by the Eze Ndigbo and cabinet.


Signed,

Onlytruth, ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

That would have been THE BEST thing for Nigeria.
In fact I pray silently that the oil finishes soon so that everybody will find his true levels.

Rhino.5dm:
But you once believed, NO?

I told you he is snake. Where is noiseless when you need him?. . .?!

Sometimes I speak in self made language. Only a f.o.ol would take my words literally all the time.
Actually there are FEW nairalanders that can decipher my true intents.
Okija juju is not Igbo; has never been Igbo and will never be Igbo. This time I speak literally.

sally bonne: Who is dis is dere any igbo state dt is higher than anyone when was anambra even created,my friend go and sleep and stop exhibiting ignorance in dis place.

My friend didn't you read that Okija juju is not Igbo?
What is YOUR OWN intention in the matter?
If you are Igbo, can't you use your head?
Drop the issue and move on. We Igbo know who is Igbo.
I tire for some of you.

PointB: Baring what the discredited Okija said, no one is putting anyone above the other.

But if you will oblige me let me explain this to you. A lot of Nigerians, especially Igbo will be roused into supporting Rochas candidacy because of his performance (which if continued should peak in about 2.5 years from now).

However, Chime currently is tested and ready, what more his can easily use the tried and tested PDP platform. If Chime scales the PDP primary hurdle, he stands a great chance of winning the presidency in a general election.

However, if Chime failed, or is compromised to accept a VP slot, then enter Rochas, who is expected to spread like wild fire - Rochas is both articulate and charismatic, he is also a visionary with a penchant for speed. Rochas will make a good president anyday.

So there you, Chime, if we must tried and tested PDP platform, or Rochas, if we must kill the PDP in SE.

My name is Onlytruth, and I endorse this message!

Bikonu umu Igbo, onye obula wepu anya n'ebe anumanu a ana akpo Okija_juju no. Anu ohia ahu bu onye awusa.
Oteela o ji agba ndi Igbo mgba okpuru na ebe a. Chukwu ga akpo ya oku mgbe na adighi anya.

Only a fool would believe that Okija-juju is Igbo.
If he is Igbo, then I am a Hausa man.

His opinions on Igbo affairs are irrelevant to us.

Signed

Onlytruth, ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

Beaf: ^
In the simplest terms, the Midwests declaration of neutrality was a real poke in Nigeria's eye. Where on Earth have you heard of a country at war, yet one of its states declares it is neutral?

You and I know that Dede's claims are a fallacy, I have already pointed out the jumble in dates against events that he presented. Attacks on Biafra came from Lagos until the Midwest invasion, after which the FG recaptured Excravos and began launching attacks from there.

The Midwest too was unhappy, but being made up of minorities was unsure and simply waiting.

Beaf just know that ndu_chucks ONLY interest in the story is the accusation of war crimes against Biafran soldiers in the MW incursion. He honestly doesn't care about anything else. His brother Murtala Muhammad committed one of worst war crimes DOCUMENTED during the war, when he lined up [b]thousand[/b]s of men and boys at Asaba and executed them. The crime is well documented, and maybe even the direct commanders are still alive.
He wants to equalize the genocide accusation on both sides.

ndu_chucks: In my humble opinion, it is quite dishonest to claim that Midwest declared it was neutral and to imply the Biafran invasion was not justified. The war was between Nigeria and Biafra, and at no time did the Midwest declare that they've ceased to be part of Nigeria. Secondly, as Dede1 stated in one of his posts, when the Federal troops were using the Midwest as military launching pads from which to attack Biafra, no one attempted to kick them out of the Midwest on the account of this so-called neutrality.

Put yourself in the position of the Biafran soldiers and you'll see that they had no choice but to invade the Midwest. That they committed war crimes in the process is another matter entirely. Lets not try to revise history, complete honesty in discussing these matters is critical for the healing process.

My friend stop trying to be clever by half. BTW I fixed your post because you cannot cherry pick Dede1's key point/opinion/submission in his argument. Dede1 still challenges anyone to provide concrete proof that Biafran soldiers committed war crimes while in Midwest.

Let me help you rehash Dede1's position: Biafra invaded MD in response to Nigerian attacks from there; and while there, Biafran soldiers committed no war crimes.

You have to take it all or leave it all.
Olodo.

Beaf: The OP's Claim that England is more developed than the US is really stretching things. Aside from the culture of having a Queen, England has nothing above the US.
Even in Europe, England is far from the richest, in fact they are into their second recession in 3 years, with an economy whose recent growth was due to consumption; much worse is the fact the the pound is overvalued, driving all manufacturing abroad; in turn, its leaders dare not massively devalue the pound because it would lead to a feeding frenzy of cash outflows and disinvestment.
Except something drastic is done, it sounds like a terminally ill economy to me.

The US on the other hand, has a growing economy and makes more per capita than his English counterpart. Equal amounts of money stretch out much farther in the US than in England where everything is grossly overpriced. Its a double whammy.

lmao @first bolded.

@Second bolded, SPOT ON.

Another Okija: And for the last time I am telling you that until Anambra and Enugu say they cant produce the President before you start talking About Imo, Abia and Ebonyi... Delta State is least on the food chain..

My friend don't you ever get tired of talking nonsense and trying to deceive iidiiots like yourself?
You see why we curse you each time you claim to be Igbo?

@Topic, if Ezeife was there and supports it, then GEJ may have to forget about 2015 because he Ezeife was among the strongest supporters of GEJ in SE in 2011.

They, Ohanaeze, played a key role in Igbo support for Jonathan in 2011. If they urge our support again without showing CONCRETE achievement by GEJ for Ndigbo, then, umu igbo will likely stone them.

I have nothing to say yet until umunna and Ohanaeze take a position.

PointB: Eze OnlyTruth,
A hurum ozi nzitere. Le emailu gi. A sa lam gi.

Dalu nwanne.

Obiagu1: I disagree we had no choice. However, let the new direction open our eyes further at the end of the day and let us see it as it is without the need to spin our way out of it. There is, also, no need to shift the blame to Anyim, Ngozi and co when they only do the bidding of their master; it'll be disingenuous to do so. [/b]In addition, I will not face a reality if the impeding reality is my demise without trying to fight my way out of it.

As for "Igwe bu ike", that's only true when there's a unity of purpose. [b]"Igwe abughi ike" if you and I are fighting for the same thing while I harbour an ulterior motive.

Well, let us agree to disagree on the bolded. I will like to remind you, that Ndigbo lobbied for Anyim to be made SFG.
I will also like to remind you that Jonathan feels that he is doing us a favor by appointing Ndigbo like Iweala, and co.
The favor is that these our people should remember our needs and work for them. Are you telling me that if those people were Yoruba, that they would not be fixing their region by now? I hate comparing Igbo with other major tribes, but this time I have no choice. I have to blame our brothers and sisters on these infrastructures. If they are resisted by Jonathan, THEY SHOULD RESIGN and inform Ohanaeze Ndigbo of why they resigned. It is very easy to do that if they are thinking about us. That is why I say that Igwe bu Ike.

As for the last bolded, you have to be clearer what you mean by that.

mpumalanga: The Midwesterners took decisions to further their own interest
and igbos should learn from that because any group that want to
survive in nigeria,must be ruthless in going for their own interest.

The pre civil war success of the igbos was the issue and many taught
that getting them out of the way will transfer their success to them
especially the elites from southern nigeria and christian north as at
that time.I supported GEAJ because he is from eastern region not because
of any deceptive alliance and i believe that people that survived the
worst can live with the bad.

After GEAJ,the same people will mock the igbos as people they used
to get what they want because it is natural.

Thank you. That was exactly why I supported him too. He couldn't be worse than any aboki, IMHO.
Aboki denied us international airport for MANY YEARS. They are our main problem in Nigeria.
Secondly, Jonathan will be judged by his record in 2015. Let no one ever believe that he has a blank cheque to cart Igbo votes in that year. If in 2015 we take stock, and he had failed to deliver all we need -International airport, second bridge across the Niger, Onitsha port (he has partly delivered on that) and fixing federal roads in SE; if he gets a failing score, we will not vote for him. I am even starting my own hard ball with him from December THIS YEAR. Enugu airport must be functioning fully or I will stop supporting him.
As for some of the minorities claiming to have used us, all I have to say is that they should remember that we have an enormous voting power in Nigeria. No Nigerian president jokes with Ndigbo. The ones that had tried it did it because we were not united. We are far more united and angrier today than ever. We can do a whole lot of things to make life HELL for everybody in Nigeria. Nuff said.

Again when I say "Igwe bu Ike" I really mean Igbo unity, nothing more. If we are united, believe me, Eastern Nigeria will be united. We make up about 70% of the Eastern Nigerian population.

Dede1: Bros, I honestly believed that political exigencies that contributed to the defeat of Biafra were constructed outside the confines of Nigeria. Have you reasoned aloud the ploy behind the fact that two diametrically opposed political ideologies during the heat of their pinnacle had to join forces to saw off Biafra?

The Ndigbo and their neighbors in eastern region were solidly behind Biafra. I can count on my fingers the number of Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Ogoni, Atama and Ijo who successfully contested both regional and federal election in their ethnic enclave on a platform other than NCNC. One of the best pilots in Biafra was Ijo and unfortunately he died trying to erect the country. One of the best field commanders in Biafra was Ibibio and he died trying to erect the country. There was a young Biafran brigade commander from Sagbama who was bent in recapturing Port Harcourt before the war ended. A group of Okirika people risked being shot to death by smuggling foods and medicine into Biafra.

The seemingly seed of disunity that is perceived among Ndigbo and their neighbors was planted during the war, germinated and nourished since the end of the war. In true honesty, I shall be pained to see a country formed by Ndigbo without Ibibio, Annang, Ogoni and eastern Ijo as part of it. But to avoid being labeled as crude oil usurpers, Ndigbo had the will-power and strength to go it alone. Again, “Igwe bu ike” if they are united and there is basis for unity.

Thank you my brother! The bolded is EXACTLY why I demure at general criticisms or "diatribe" against those groups.
It is not easy following another tribe to fight for ANY joint mission, especially one that you and I understand was not really a local fight. Heck it was easy to join Nigerian side, afterall they saw the level of foreign support behind Nigeria. Who likes to risk his life against a worldwide current of opposition against Biafra (whether those opposition was justified or not)? You and I know that had a nation as powerful as a world power, REAL world power (not a pretender like France I'm sorry I don't hold the French in high esteem because their support was halfhearted) supported Biafra, believe me even Hausa/Fulani will see us capture the whole North within DAYS, not weeks. The best of our fighting men died within 6 months of that war. I cry for that any time I think about the war. Those men should have been given WORLD BEATING strategic support (military equipment). If that happened, most of them would not have died at all. So, thank you for understanding the core of my argument.

Anyhow, I'll be back later to continue. Gotta run an errand.

Signing off,
Yours truly

Onlytruth.

My brother PointB, i huru ozi m zitere gi?

Dede1: No, bros rather I would like you check whom the poster wanted us to accept his/her freely given advice.

Nsogbu adighi nwanne. I didn't think so too. Had to make sure though.

Obiagu1: I will never allow myself to be fooled. Let appeasers talk whatever they want all in the name of building bridges even if it means lying against your people and turning logic upside down; bridges to where if I may ask? Until people understand who they are dealing with, they will forever be used as a means to an end. Minority domination over the majority is the new game!

By 2014, some people will understand why I resisted GEJ's administration during the elections. The question will be, what was his presidency all about and where did it leave us, the Igbos.

Any talk of SE/SS is a farce and that union could only happen if forced on us by the world because everyone of them dream to be like Qatar and the UAE. Well, that's still a dream because there's still Animal Farm hovering over their heads.
So trying to appease is unnecessary and insulting to fellow Igbos. When we are forced into a union with anyone by the UN in any post Nigeria scenario, then we can talk how thinks will be best for everyone. If we are not forced into any union with anyone, all your talk is useless because you're talking to people with special dislike of you and see you as a parasite.

I personally am not trying to appease anyone. Believe me! lol How can an aggrieved party be trying to appease anyone? lol!
My concern is that history must not repeat. I have read enough account of what happened that I have come to understand why A LOT of top Igbo persons distant from any talks of secession. They honestly have not seen smart moves by MASSOB or any other organization so far. What I maintain is that a situation whereby nearly ALL southern groups are allied against Ndigbo is a strategic nightmare which the likes of me would NEVER allow to see the light of day, if I can. My father also told me how Igbo contributed more to the failure of Biafra than even outsiders. That is why I insist that Igwe bu ike should by my motto. If we cannot join a collective effort, all our individual efforts are in vain. If we had not supported Jonathan, at least the first time, it would not be good strategically. I was amongst those who initially opposed him until I started to read from some of our top Igbo politicians, and also did my own introspection. At the end, I saw that we had no choice. In 2015, if the strategic calculus does not change, we will likely support him again. It is called facing reality.

I wish to advise my brothers to tone down their words against these groups because there is no need whatsoever for those words. They should spend more of their energy to get us strategic infrastructure in SE. Our journey begins there.
As it stands now, if those Igbo in government(Anyim Pius, Ngozi Iweala, Stella Odua et al) do not get us those infrastructure, how can anyone even talk of an Igbo nation seceded from Nigeria? Let us start by learning to work together and think for the GROUP rather than self.