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FrostyZonn: Hindus worship many gods, but they recognise one supreme being and they call him Vishnu/Krishna.

how does this answer my question?

mumu xtians, silly thread...waste of space..smh...

even mad people are pyschologically sane than xtians

FrostyZonn: I believe that every religion, at least most of them worship one God under different institutions. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Even Hindu.

seriously? so satanists worship yahweh now?

FrostyZonn: Is that all you got??

C'mon, you can do better than that.

do you not see that everyone here is laughing at how dumb you have become.....

FrostyZonn: "God-Debate", like you put it shouldn't be fun. I don't see anything fun about poking fun at your maker, unless it was simply to mask your own form of mental inadequacies.

who exactly is this maker? Zeus, Flying Pig, Yahweh or Krishna

FrostyZonn: Atheist see religion as nothing but mere figment of imagination and sentiments. According to them, life has no purpose. Truth doesn't exist, in fact everything is black and white, plain and simple.

What they fail to grasp is that there are grey areas in every thing. There are many instances where some people die for few minutes and see themselves floating around, before rejoining their physical form. It's what is known as Out-Of-Body experience and a sound proof that the world is any thing but black and white and simple like the atheist will make anyone believe.

Religion surely doesn't deserved to be relegated to the point of insignificance, where atheist commonly refers to it as a state of mental slavery.

Rid your mind of all your prejudice and maybe you will see that you are the ones in the state of mental slavery, not believers.

mumu...

//Scores.java

import java.util.Scanner

public class Scores{
private static int user, count, pass;

Scanner input=new Scanner (System.in);

public static void inputScores(){

pass=70;

System.out.println("Enter score" );
user=input.nextInt();

if (user > pass){

++count;

System.out.println(count + "number of students passed" );

}

if (count > 8 ){

System.out.println("Bonus to the instructor" );

}
}

/* I dont understand your second instruction so am omitting it*/

public static void main(String[] args){

inputScores();

}

}

/**
1. Get input from user
2. Check if input > pass
3. If yes, prefix increment count
4. Print the number of students who passed.
4. If count > 8, print message

*/



/* typed this on mobile, I have not even run it so excuse some silly bugs eh*/.

bisoftinc@gmail.com ... multi-platform client and server side apps .... short work period...freelancer...its what we do.

Deep Sight: O, your earth-shaterringly erudite,
scholarly and thoughtful response
was great, and was just as i expected,
you being such a well measured, and
profound thinker.

its clear your agenda is just to mock ....

mock all you want and worship your white god, no one is stopping you....

just until answers are found....

people like you should be ignored...

Deep Sight: Quite the erudite refutation of the posers as expected.

or the answer you aren't expecting...

@Deepsight.. you know, 150 years ago, the question creationists were asking evolutionists were questions like secret of life and heredity, chemical bonding and space existence ...now that evolution has answered those by emergence of genetics, cosmology, astronomy and chemistry, you all left those and shifted to the question of origin of life and universe.

whats bad is not you asking those questions, but whats really foolish is you claiming evolution is wrong based on its limitations ...

well wallow in that a little bit more till those answers are found and then what will you shift to?

its just so pitiful that your beliefs are based on your ignorance....

only a fool, who has no answers mock those who look for answers...

this maximum stu.pid.dity of yours should therefore be overlooked as foolish words of a fool.

mumu people. is it the whites that say you shouldn't have common sense and spend your years worshipping their god?

davidylan: What happened? As usual so much noise and our dear atheists who crow about logic and science all day cannot answer a simple 1 of 12 questions? What a crying shame.

do you recognize logic when one is presented? as a xtian that you are, I doubt that..

davidylan: There are 12 questions on the first page... plenty of space for you to pick just one and lay out the "evidence for evolution". Go right ahead and educate us. Surely it shouldnt be that difficult. Afterall you have been here responding to every comment except those that are germaine to the thread itself... surely it cant be because you have no answers no?

We are patiently waiting for your erudite refutation of all the "retarded nonsense" deepsight put up. I trust your intelligence.

the question of life origin and that of universe cannot be answered presently until we know more about their evolution, so wallow in your ignorance a little bit more, theory of evolution is got all the time it needs and its still some 200 years old so calm down, in time all answers will be found and there will be no more room for your god.

loveroftruth: See who is talking, the one that does not know what life/consciousness is.

The one that will sell "amino acid is alive/have consciousness over time" to his dummies.

Now it is propaganda that he has resorted to.

Your lot that dont know how to think properly except copy and pest should learn how to keep quite when critical thinking is involved.

Oh, your TYPE can come when cursing competition is open.

But for this me that can lose life when all the amino acid and water is still in me, i definitely know you are saying irrelent things as far this subject is concern.

Go and sleep mr man.

another mumu and annoying post from the same dummy. High school genetics will tell you that you lose DNA at every cell division, this is why you grow old and that blood vessel connection is needed to supply your cells matter for metabolism, this is why you die if such connections were broken even if you still have all the DNA and water.

your own ignorance is particularly alarming.

deinococus radiodurances can wake itself up after been confirmed clinically dead, so where is your breadth of life in that?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans

loveroftruth: Most often it is better to overlook and ignore your ignorance that have driven you into the state you are right now.

But for this folly below, i take an exception.



The issue under discuss is 'life'. > consciousness(in animal).

Is a machine the 'life' in question ?

It is a fact that a machine is an organisation of inanimate material, including its brainbox etc, are lifeless.

The electricity also is inanimate, and cannot pass for 'life/consciousness' that is under deliberation here.

Why then did you bring such analogy here in the first place ?

So, your example is lost for wrong application. Why you could not see it beats me big time.



So, where does the amino acid fits in that "once it is reproduced life is achieved or it leads to life/consciousness" like plaeton is struggling to feed is perceived dummies here ?

Are you aware that the life in question attained 'consciousness' ?

That a machine is even powered with electricity does not means it is conscious ?

Is my car conscious, my phone ? My electronic devices at home ? Which of them is conscious like living things(animal) does ?

Dont you know what the life under consideration involves ?

You mr man, you are lost!



those things you have listed does not necessary account for animal 'life/consciousness'.

If you arrange those together it will still remain inanimate/without consciousness.
That you mould them as a human statue will not give it consciousness with your amino acid and water, if you think it will, then mould one and pump oxygen into it and see it come to life.

Yes, why not ? Is amino acid not there ? Is water not there ? So, consciousness should be attained then. No ?

If not, then note that matter will remain matter nomatter how you organised them, it will not, never gain consciousness.

How do you fellows think sef ? Smh.

It is obvious why some of you are where you are, proper thinking ability is missing

load of rubbish from a confused dummy.

the analogy was only suppose to show the difference between water and DNA, nothing more. all you have up there can be ignored.

Deep Sight: I have no issues with this, I know and recognize this. What I state is that on
the bare face of evolution, already
successful unicellular organisms would
have had no evolutionary impetus to
develop into different species.

The number of validly named species of
prokaryotes is currently slightly more
than 6200. This is because they reproduce by fission, meaning mutations are rear and when and if it occurs, are quickly removed by death, so it doesn't accumulate.

mumu thread, bitter thread

Alfa Seltzer: Well, that's complicated and scientists are still scratching their heads on the best way to define life. Can something be alive without dna or any of its components? Is non-carbon based life possible? Is non-dna life possible? It all depends on how you define life. I have no general definition for you.

well for me personally, because it has been experimented that if you strip a cell of its nuclear matter, that is DNA, it "dies", it becomes and behaves like normal elements and when you return the nucleus, it metabolizes again, I personally have defined life as DNA in nucleus, other organels are its needed components. Bacteria exist without most organels, virus exist without organels but only reproduce with hijacked organels so I think its right to define life as combination of DNA.

Deep Sight: If you don't get that you analogy with electricity absolutely nailed you, then I should not bother with you.

perhaps you should make me see in my blindness

Alfa Seltzer: It depends on what you call "life".

do you call a cell life or do you call DNA life. how do you define life?

Deep Sight: Don't mind him. Just exclude electricity from any electronic device and see if it will be "alive."

still doesn't mean your device is not different from electricity. they are different but one is dependent on another. its as simple as that, why this obfuscation.?

Deep Sight: You are lost. Go back and absorb the point. Your ramble here only argues my case for me.

certainly, you are a bigot.

Deep Sight: There is also no life without water! Would an experiment showing the creation of water therefore show emergent Life?

a machine cannot function without electricity, does creating electricity mean creating a machine? NO

life and water are different but life is dependent on water just like machine and electricity are different but machines are different from what powers them.

Now if a man makes a machine without making electricity, is it right to say he has created a machine? Now there is your answer.

Water would be useless without DNA, at least to life. so when talking about life components, water may be excused, just like when talking about a machine components, electricity maybe excused

Deep Sight: Numerical success. Propagation.

then are you sure you really mean this

Deep Sight: Do successful species over time evolve
into less successful species?
The question is that simple. You can
start with a yes or no and then
elaborate.

any natural process can cause decimation of organisms. But normally, a species cannot outnumber its food source so number of species is based on comfort provided by the environment, I.e germ free environment and food availability. So "successful" species, under normal condition should remain fairly constant.

Deep Sight: You are EXCEEDINGLY FUNNY!

And you dare go about saying this or that is "laughable" is a "fairy-tale" laughing at sky daddies and santa claus and all that! You are FAR worse! You make astonishing logical leaps and you beleive in pure fantasy and even outright falsehood, and you dare pass it off as science or logic!

VERY SIMPLY:

ARE AMINO ACIDS LIVING THINGS?

Look at the bold in your quote above. Is there any experiment that has EVER shown that? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Just one? Any at all? ? ? ? ? ? ?

You refer to an experiment producing amino acids said to be the building blocks of life. You could just as well refer to an experiment producing star dust, as we are made of star dust, no? You could also refer me to an experiment producing water, as we are 70 per cent water, no? Can we not show an experiment combining Hydrogen and Oxygen to produce water? Is water not cardinal to life? Does such an experiment therefore disclose emergent life?

In fact look here, about your Amino Acids -

Amino acids (/əˈmiːnoʊ/, /əˈmaɪnoʊ/, or /ˈæmɪnoʊ/) are biologically important organic compounds made from amine (-NH2) and carboxylic acid (-COOH) functional groups, along with a side-chain specific to each amino acid. The key elements of an amino acid are carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, though other elements are found in the side-chains of certain amino acids. About 500 amino acids are known[1] and can be classified in many ways. Structurally they can be classified according to the functional groups' locations as alpha- (α-), beta- (β-), gamma- (γ-) or delta- (δ-) amino acids; other categories relate to polarity, pH level, and side chain group type (aliphatic, acyclic, aromatic, containing hydroxyl or sulfur, etc.) In the form of proteins, amino acids comprise the second largest component [size=16pt](after water[/size]) of human muscles, cells and other tissues.[2] Outside proteins, amino acids perform critical roles in processes such as neurotransmitter transport and biosynthesis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acids

Just look at the bold!

Note that it says "the second largest component AFTER WATER!"

So in fact, it is apt to look at water as the most important component - and as such, an experiment producing water should be even more important that your experiment producing amino acids!

Is water a living thing. Does an experiment producing water therefore show emergent Life? Are Amino acids living things. Does an experiment producing Amino Acids therefore show emergent Life?

If an experiment produces the matter on which living things dwell, has such an experiment shown the emergence of life? Are amino acids living things? Has any experiment demonstrated the bold in your post above?

The truth is, the bold in your post above is a bare faced LIE: fantasy and imagination at work. It is a lie. It has not been shown to happen in ANY experiment anywhere ever, and you are yet happy to interpolate it to plug a gaping hole, a massive gap, in your worldview.

How dare you sound so presumptuous and then go ahead to cite something such as that bare faced LIE?Which experiment has ever shown that to happen anywhere? Just which? Kindly show me, good sir!

You see, we have seen this over and over. The gloating atheist intoxicated with the aroma of pseudo scientific philosophy such that he imagines himself reasoning at some higher level than the regular theist. It ALWAYS emerges that you fellows do not even have a clue of what you seek to discuss!

If you are so ready to gulp down such unsubstantiated claims, what makes you any different from the Santa Claus gang who you deride?

The bold in your post is a disgraceful assumption built on nothing as fantastic leap of fantasy, never experimented, and never observed to occur anywhere at any time.

And yet you smugly advance it? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Now this is wrong..there is no life without DNA. life is not an irreducible unit. therefore DNA combination can be said to be life. DNA makes amino acid so the connection is right and you misunderstand. This is what I onced said and you misunderstood it to mean i claim life has been synthesized.

Chibuebem: there was no other way to save us. Why do u think there is no afterlife?

then he is limited....

because afterlife is a wish, there is no single shred of evidence for life out side this body.

Chibuebem: he left the perfect heaven to die for you. For us. Dont mock this act of love

why does he have to die if he is god?

Deep Sight: Do successful species over time evolve into less successful species?

The question is that simple. You can start with a yes or no and then elaborate.

what do you mean by successful, complex?

you can start with a yes or no and then elaborate.

Chibuebem: yes yes. Its a pity. What you esteem as necessary in life is utter nonsense before God. The one you deny. He speaks today. But when he came and lived among men, few recognized him. Others fought against him. This is more than a simple logical argument ooman, its life or death, victory or defeat. Your real life is more than a passing thing, a shadow. Judgement is coming. This same God you want to speak will speak. But the words wont be what one will want to hear. You have chosen your path. There is still hope shaa

Logic and reason are utter nonsense before your god? then your god is utter nonsense before me.

you seriously believe a god came and lived among men? sounds more like the tale of Sango and Oya, will you tell me more about this myth of god walking among men?

when people die, they are dead, there is no afterlife anywhere. This is the only life there is to live so enjoy it.

How risible to think that people would leave the perfect heaven only to come live on earth when they know that they may not make it back there...pathetic

Chibuebem: good good. You just agreed with what the bible said in 1 corinthians. It makes sense to me, because i believed in his power on the day i got saved. You see, God is plain simple, and he made salvation an easy thing too. The message is a straight-forward one: you ooman, are a natural man whom a supernatural God loves. You ooman are in the bondage of sin and satan, you ooman need to accept the salvation Almighty God has made available to you through Jesus' death and resurrection, to be free from the slavery of sin and darkness of mind.

Ah..I see.

seems what you think is darkness is light to me. On the contrary, I think you are the one in logical darkness.

To worship Yahweh, I'd have to support murder and human sacrifice. You are in bondage of sin, Yahweh himself is the sin and the Flying Pig can save you..that is how your logic sounds.

If yahweh is got mouth, let the gods speak for themselves.