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Alfa Seltzer: I'm starting to feel sorry for ooman.

more like you should try a second life outta here

wiegraf: I'm having flashbacks as well. I seem to remember telling you the problem would occur if you thought me intelligent. Usually needless to say, but now I'm a bit worried you thought any of that intelligent.

Let's consider something you might be familiar with; $hit. Now you $hit, a lot (especially verbally, but we aren't talking about that type, we're talking of physical $hit), as do all animals with an anus (at least, I think), it's natural. Now, is your $hit responsible for say your consciousness? Or your black hair, or your copious verbal $hit? No, it's just $hit, a process all life must go through; getting rid of waste.

Same thing with entropy, all matter/energy must go through it, just as all biological life (I think) must get rid of waste, simple.

In a manner of speak, it can be said to be matter/energy taking a $hit. (Eventually though, there may probably be nothing left except said $hit, which is useless.) It is NOT responsible for the universe expanding or biological life. Really, wtf is wrong with you?

Anyways, meh. Looking forward to your saner attempts, good hooman

however dumb you understand this, the point is you still grab the laws relating to life...this is my point and this is what Logicboy is against ...everything other thing is gibberish in support of your master LB, but it seems you now have different opinions, dumbnuts...

PhenomenonVFX: Dude, I know bullsh!t when I see one. I am also familiar with ur former scientific arguments on this forum. I have read all the unimpressive pigshit u wrote up there and frankly it doesnt sound like something from someone who has his head screwed on right. The reason I havent contributed to this debate yet is that I find u amusing. U throw around fancy words trying to convince someone of ur intellectual and literal superiority and only in the last few comments have u actually said anything sensible albeit arguably flawed to some extent.
Face the fire dude. Dont try to use me to mitigate ur palpable thoughtlessness.

ode

Logicboy03: The second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with life.

Earth is not a closed nor isolated system. Your crap is overflowing.


Here is a nice quote for you "entropy uiniverse" theorists

this post of copy and paste job of yours from wikipedia adds nothing to this debate

FearGodAndLive: Thank you brother. Atheists don't like to own up to their own actions hence they choose to disbelieve God. They do not want to be accountable to anyone so they make themselves GOD. Most of these NL atheists are type 4.

yea am type 4, jump into the lagoon

PhenomenonVFX: And you, my good sir, are cute.

am just saying its irritating for you to jump into the middle of a debate you do not know how it started and make silly comments....wear your common sense next time.

wiegraf: Ooman, my good clown, we need more knowledge? I seem to recall one that had no idea as to what the second law was and spouted whargarbl about abiogenesis, narrowing down the definition.

You've leveled up a bit, which is commendable. In fact you are even sometimes insightful, well done. But with this, what does god have to do with it? Since when did a 'will' have to be involved, and where from this credo (other than the obvious don't believe in supernatural gods) all atheists must believe? When did entropy cause expansion?

Anyway, lots more, but essentially most of what you have here are... assumptions. What is true is that entropy ultimately occurs in every system, one way or another, within this universe. That's, more or else, all. Also, constant energy, but considering the potential balancing act that is also not straightforward. Etc etc

The bolded is the only thing intelligent from you and its exactly what Logicboy is against, claiming 2nd law does not apply to life so take it up with him.

Logicboy03: Good Lord! What a load of BULLSHYT loaded with Anonyism!

SMH....Ooman, if only atheists could excommunicate like the catholic church does to heretic Bishops

You must be ignored, except you point out the flaws in that post....
your ignorance is your strength

does it make you comfortable to be insulting? if it does then you need to check into a psychopath asylum.

Houston in hell? xtians are sadists.

Alfa Seltzer: The bolded is the most intelligent thing you have said on this thread.

Just accept that the laws of thermodynamics are not absolute and we'll leave it at that.

more like you have nothing intelligent to say... am not the one claiming the laws are absolute, its LB. I am only saying the law can be seen in different ways.

Alfa Seltzer: hmm. Sounds interesting but if this premise is true, then what you are saying is that the universe will forever expand indefinetely. Is that what you are saying or do I misunderstand?

certainly, I cant make such conclusion just yet....

refer to a simple example of dynamic equilibrium of a closed system at constant temperature, at first vapor pressure increase in such closed system, but the system does not keep expanding, it reaches a dynamic equilibrium

so, it might be be said that the universe may reach such equilibrium since energy cannot be destroyed and so amount of matter remains constant.

but because of other forces acting within the universe, it certainly would face a different fate than normal closed systems.

Further studies is therefore required to make conclusions about the fate of the universe.

sylvalord: and who r u refering to as the flying pig? Certainly not my God.. Pls let d holy spirit take over ur soul b4 its too late.. Give ur life to christ

salvation brings freedom to the soul.. U might think u r free, but u are all around in shackles.. Repent bro.. REPENT

your god is only a figment of your imagination ..

Alfa Seltzer: It depends, but mostly yes. Infact some physical "laws" don't even work under certain physical circumstances.

And you are wrong, they are not based on a "closed" universe but on an expanding one.

exactly, this is where you contradict your self again...how does an open system expand without someone doing it? and we are atheists, we dont believe in god, therefore for the universe to expand, it must be closed and entropy must always increase hence the expansion...

do you get it now?

I also understand physical laws are not constants.

debate with you seem peaceful, compared to Logicboy...

PhenomenonVFX: Tsk tsk tsk, ooman you havent said anything worthy of note since the beginning of this page of the thread.
The only thing I gathered from the inscrutable drivel u scribbled down here (while name dropping and throwing around some unimpressive jargons) is that u are saying u are smarter and u know Carl Sagan and u have more knowledge than the rest of us, bla bla bla bla. Sadly, ur stamement throughtout has been a testimony to the contrary.
A man ought to know when he is beat. Quit making a monkey out of urself.

you are irritating....

obadiah777: IF SATAN CASTING OUT SATAN. HOW CAN HIS HOUSE STAND ?

its just people rubbing minds, why does e everything have to be devil and god fighting

Alfa Seltzer: If and only if the universe is an isolated system, which has not been proven yet. So they are all assumptions.

well then, following your idea, all laws of physics are assumptions, since they are based on a closed universe.

Alfa Seltzer: The bolded is an assumption that has never been proven.

Now that is disappointing...amount of matter and energy in the universe has to be constant or else there is no law of thermodynamics at all and nature must have a sustainer.

you science contradicts your atheism.

you need more knowledge ...

[quote author=*Kails*]Sharrap there! [/quote]its only simple common sense

striktlymi: Your life experiences!

thou have no idea what thou speaketh about.

sylvalord: y do u guys choose to blaspheme against d one true God.. Pls stop dis ur atheistic behaviours and turn to Jesus christ 4 cleansing.. Pls repent so u dnt condemn ur soul to eternal suffering in hell.. Pls repent my brethen REPENT

The Flying Pig shall destroy your soul if you dont worship him.

striktlymi: You might have noticed that I wasn't referring to the literal rain fall...I don't want to go into the argument of what caused the rain to fall just yet.

ok..to what rain refereth thou?

elvis10ten: hello ?. Quadratic formula and completing the square are two different things. Though quadratic formula was derived from completing the square.

so your point?

striktlymi: By allowing the 'rain' to fall on you even when you do not appreciate him.

I thought the rain fall when clouds gather at different pressure. whence cometh this theory of yours?

PortHarcourtBoy: Op I no blame U

I blame govt wey allow our Warehouses to be used as Churches

Our mental asylums have been turned to churches and mosques, to be attended by the mentally impaired. We need a better govt

Symphony007: by bitting you. He committed sin. So he did'nt make it to heaven, he's probably in hell roasting.:|

but he couldn't help it, he was created just to suck our blood....

striktlymi: The above almost did it!!!

Parenting implies taken care of someone...if one can't give care to a child he or she is meant to bring up then that individual is NOT a parent in my books.

God does more for us than being a Creator...unless you believe that God does not take care of you, he remains your parent.

how does God take care of me?

Symphony007: i once had tea with st. Paul and peter in heaven,quite charming gentlemen. While leaving we stopped by at jesus's mansion but his private secretary said he was out on an assignment. Don't ask me how i got there. Just have faith.

wow, can you take me on your trip next time?

Trusty247: and i nid 2 c my late mum too who died eight years ago.she was very gud.

I need to see the mosquito I killed last night

is there s.e'x in heaven? if no then am not going.

Lastly....

An isolated system is defined as one without any outside energy input. Because the universe is an isolated system, the total disorder of the universe is always increasing.

With biological evolution however, the
system being considered is not the
universe, but the Earth. And the Earth is
not an isolated system. This means that an increase in order can occur on Earth as long as there is an energy input — most notably the light of the sun. Therefore, energy input from the sun could give rise to the increase in order on Earth including complex molecules and organisms. At the same time, the sun becomes increasingly disordered as it emits energy to the Earth. Even though order may be increasing on earth, the total order of the solar system and universe is still decreasing, and the second law is not violated.

And Jesus said the holy spirit could not come except he left..John 16v7.. but the holy spirit was already present even before jesus was born..Luke 1v41