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Emusan: In Dr. Libby’s original work, he noted that the atmosphere did not appear to be in equilibrium. This was a troubling idea for Dr. Libby since he believed the world was billions of years old and enough time had passed to achieve equilibrium. Dr. Libby’s calculations showed that if the earth started with no 14C in the atmosphere, it would take up to 30,000 years to build up to a steady state (equilibrium). If the cosmic radiation has remained at its present intensity for 20,000 or 30,000 years, and if the carbon reservoir has not changed appreciably in this time, then there exists at the present time a complete balance between the rate of disintegration of radiocarbon atoms and the rate of assimilation of new radiocarbon atoms for all material in the life-cycle.

Dr. Libby choose to ignore this discrepancy (nonequilibrium state), and he attributed it to experimental error. However, the discrepancy has turned out to be very real. The ratio of 14 C / 12 C is not constant.
The Specific Production Rate (SPR) of 14C is known to be 18.8 atoms per gram of total carbon per minute. The Specific Decay Rate (SDR) is known to be only 16.1 disintegrations per gram per minute. What does this mean? If it takes about 30,000 years to reach equilibrium and 14C is still out of equilibrium, then maybe the earth is not very old.

Magnetic Field of the Earth
This another factor that can affect the 14C, The stronger the field is around the earth, the fewer the number of cosmic rays that are able to reach the atmosphere. This would result in a smaller production of 14C in the atmosphere in earth’s past. The cause for the long term variation of the 14C level is not known. The variation is certainly partially the result of a change in the cosmic ray production rate of radiocarbon.

This history of the earth’s magnetic field agrees with Barnes’ basic hypothesis, that the field has always freely decayed. The field has always been losing energy despite its variations, so it cannot be more than 10,000 years old. Earth’s magnetic field is fading. Today it is about 10 percent weaker than it was when German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss started keeping tabs on it in 1845, scientists say.

Other factor which skeptics may not agree on is the Genesis Flood but the global flood would've buried many 14C that cause coals, oil e.t.c.

14C dating is the best dating but with wrong assumption of nonequillibrium, if the assumption is wrong definitely we will have wrong concluding dating.

Again, magnetic field of earth goes against billions years because if Carl Friedrich could notice it in 1845 and today it's ten times weaker than what he observed in 1845 then if earth is billions years the magnetic field would have faded out.

another mumu post.

if earth's magnetic field goes by 10% in less than 200 years, then at this rate, the earth will be 2000 years. do you even realize that before posting mumu things here.

Emusan: Is this how to give a meaningful reply as am intellectual being?

Just pray that NASA curiosity rover souldn't find any life on mars but if they find any small organism we have alot to discuss about it.

ode xtians ... if NASA find life on Mars, then evolution is even more supported as it has been hypothesized that life formed on Mars and got to earth by meteors. So if NASA finds life on mars, which is likely, then earth bound creation of life is destroyed....am not counting on it sha

Chibuebem: 1 corinthians 2: 12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we MIGHT KNOW the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, NOT in the words which MAN'S WISDOM TEACHETH, BUT WHICH THE HOLY GHOST TEACHETH; comparing SPIRITUAL THINGS WITH SPIRITUAL. But the natural man RECEIVETH NOT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD: for they are FOOLISHNESS UNTO HIM: neither can he KNOW THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. I understand.

You are perfectly right.. Yahweh is complete foolishness to me...I just wonder how he makes sense to you.

musKeeto: hAHHAAHAHAHA, see attack....

Goshen, serves you right. Who tell u make u dey preach against tithe?

the guy no wan pay tithe...simple

Chibuebem: see sir? Now you bring up more excuses. I know God and worship him in spirit. Jesus is alive, and we do not know him according to the flesh anymore. We know him as the alive and powerful son of God. Not a white man. Is it not pathetic that you're a racist sir? I dont think i'm saved, i know i'm saved from sin. Yes, sin. This is mans problem. The inability to get above the desires of his flesh and mind. This is the fundamental problem of humanity. We need salvation from the passions of the corrupt flesh, its appetites, and physical desires, and the corrupt mind, with his huge ego, his selfishness and self-consciousness.

You know who I think is alive?
The Flying Pig...This is the God who created the universe and life and only to the Flying Pig do I owe my worship.

All you who do not worship the Flying Pig therefore need salvation from Yahweh, who himself is sin.

This is how dumb your logic is.

noblefada: Nope I was talking about using scientific methods to prove the existence of a divine being. HAVE U HEARD OF THE TORAH CODES?

there is torah code now?? what I know is the bible code that failed wholly, there is no future for this new torah code of yours.

Chibuebem: i dont think you were a christian sir. I think you were simply a religious person. The only person i suspect was a christian is muskeeto. Religion is very bad. It makes people think christianity is a ritualistic following of a set of rules, I was in that deep trench when God found me. Yes being a Christian is being born again by the POWER of the holy spirit. Its God searching for man, not man inventing a God. Yes sir, the reason i am undaunted is that i KNOW THIS GOD THROUGH CHRIST, AND I HAVE HIS FRUITS AND MANIFESTATIONS IN my life. The beauty of fellowship with a living, loving and powerful God. Thats christianity. By following a set of laid down rules, one can never know God, infact, one can be pushed away from God. God is good. The good news is that Jesus took away our sins, wherever u are, in whatever religion or non-religion, we quickly realize that we are in the bondage of sin, and that religion cant take it away and reunite us to God. Jesus has done that. Once we accept his gift of righteousness and salvation, we're saved and begin to truly KNOW GOD.

by Jesus, you mean the white man who was killed for his defiance against the authority? you worship a white man as your savior? now that's pathetic ..

if I may ask, exactly why do you feel the need to be saved, from what are you saved? and does thinking you are saved stop you from sinning?

Chibuebem: then you know nothing about christianity(which is more than a religion btw)

why dont you tell us what xtianity is. I was a xtian btw, so dont feel too high.

FearGodAndLive: Anything but God. The desperation to convince one self one has no creator or purpose can drive one to madness. No wonder, the Bible states it blatantly ' a fool says there's no God'

if the purpose that you think your life has is based on a god, then there is a huge problem with you. My life is got only the purpose I give.

And I wonder why god should be uncreated only to create me..

davidylan: The miller-Urey experiment has been thoroughly debunked. It is interesting that serious biologists have condemned it to the thrash can of fantasy while ignorant "pseudo-scientists" bandy it around like some trophy.

The urey-miller experiment showed that preDNA can form spontaneously, this is why its important. Its as simple as that. When will you grasp that?

These questions raised by deepsight are not such questions to be debated at the moment. Asking questions about big b.ang and origin of life now is like asking questions about genetics and chemical bonding 2000 years ago.
Many researches still need to be done.

But these questions are important to be asked now probably because of the rise of atheism against theism. But because we have no observatory answers presently, I think that the logical position of the presence of life and the universe should therefore be debated, rather than their scientific position.

And when it comes to logic, atheism stands a googol times higher than theism.

My reasons? Atheists can always tell you more works still need doing when we dont know stuffs yet, then form hypothesis to work with, which is science. But theists will always tell you they already have answers, that an umcreated being made it all.

Well it makes me wonder, if a being could be uncreated, popping into existence from absolute nothing and yet complex enough to make this magnificent universe and the ever astonishing life, then I see no reason why evolution cant proceed by itself.

When the presence of evolution is juxtaposed with that of an intelligent designer in nature, evolution is ever visible. Except someone can tell me why 20% of pregnancies in USA alone end up in spontaneous abortion in mothers that really need babies. And why life only occur where it can be supported, even on earth. Evolution's position of mutations and adaptation explains those two better.

Again, if the universe was made to support life, then the universe is supposed to be teeming with life. But out there simply means death to any life unprotected. This could only mean the universe was not designed to support life, but life formed when and where it could.

Again, if life was designed by an intelligent designer, why isn't life perfect at its fundamental level of DNA, why mutations in babies? If life was designed, why mutations at all? Things that are designed need not mutate at all because they were made for a specific purpose. The presence of mutation is enough proof against design and the presence or existence of a designer.

This is why atheism and evolution are better explanations to all we see.

^^^except only fools know fools...

when will archaeologists unearth yahweh himself so you can prove he exists, or at least existed?

Rhymeyjohn: Why not face the issues, rather than venting out emotions, which is unintelligent for an atheist to do.

its just that there is no issue to face
.....

wetting them do gen for u for?

and the same old story rises again.....absolutely nothing to gain, lose or debate here....waste of nairaland space
..smh

solaries: There is no minimum or maximum for any project (number of platforms irrespective).

Project pricing should be done based on the amount of work you think is involved in relation to how buoyant you think your customer(s) is/are.

if I'm to do an app for a school teacher at suleja grammar school I can charge 1k.

I'll charge the president 100M for the same app.

I wouldn't do a 1k app though, just used it for an example.

get it?

great...but if you are open for a 1k app then I have a project for you....

striktlymi: ^^^

How is the 'evangelism' going man?

perfect...I hope you understand the truth one day and worship the Flying Pig, and he shall grant that very thing you sooooooooo desire....

when people have rejected the use of reason, such is the problem that occurs.

Both the bible and the quran have problems with treating females equally, so one religion is never to be wholly blamed.

By logic, we know that females are humans too and should be treated with equal right....but by religion, no hope for them ... Paul instructed females may not speak in churches and quran instructed by must be clothed completely, treating them as slaves.

One of the many reasons why believe in God is what will cause the extinction of man

noblefada: I guess u're having problems comprehending the scriptures! u see b4 Acts 2:1 everyone else had the Spirit upon and not the Spirit within, meaning the Holy Spirit only came on them at certain times to perform certain function and left afterwards but now we've the Holy Spirit permanently dwelling in us as 1 Cor 6:19 says we're the temple of the Holy Ghost. Pls stop showing ur ignorance in public.

ode, shouting for lack of answers.. What Jesus said was that the holy spirit cannot come except he left, never that it cannot be within or without. This is the lie revealed by Luke 1v41 when it says the holy spirit was already around, possessing people, Lizzy in particular

so once again, try this dumb lie else where

The Flying Pig comes soon, serve him and live

Emusan: Ok.



End of discusion based on the above statement.





Take care!

Wow. Emusan.. you have been totally crushed to fine powder..

noblefada: The Holy Spirit has always been in the earth, but however was never indwelling any man (living inside anyone) so Christ had to go away to fulfill what was necessary for the Spirit to indwell His believers ( Joh 14:16-17 UKJV 16: And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17: Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but all of you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you), and this he achieved when He died & rose again and in Acts 2:1-4, His disciples then received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit! Now tell me where is the lie in this?

sorry but this isn't true. Luke 1v41 says the holy spirit was already in Lizzy(Elizabeth) so try again.

How much is the minimum amount to charge for a muti-platform mobile app using Java or c++?

both...depends on whats necessary ....

my multiplatform app begins @200k more but no less

why not? cash ready? ping me here....

Mr Troll: Dohohohohohohoho. Awesome thread!!!

Great comic relief

#oomans pseudoscience...

funny thread indeed

wiegraf: Ah, yes, and another thing, mastah scientist. You seem to be equating entropy to work. Basics; they are not the same thing.

oh prof...nice to hear from you...your intelligence is useless to your society...get a life...

Alfa Seltzer: 419


Let me guess. Your email ends with yahoo.com?

mumu

wiegraf:

Just please endeavor to take your diarrhea medication as instructed by the good doctors. Kudos

after you take your psychotic pill, schizo

Alfa Seltzer: Sorriness lasted 7 minutes.

You are a mazamaza goat seller.

oh and how could you possibly know that? is it because you are the master of goat sellers?

dumbnut since

no hard feelings, just thinking how old you really are like a fool at 40?, sorry you are a fool forever. House divided against itself...... sorry for NL...