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meetdonald: Correction: Died And Resurrected. Now At God's Right Hand^^

God himself is long dead.

striktlymi: Morning sweetheart

Why not review your Boolean algebra before calling it dumb?

only if you can tell me how 1+1=1

meetdonald: Name one Thing that says otherwise about the Perfect and Beautiful we call Earth.

death and diseases
global warming and flood etc

meetdonald: In Truth Science Brings about the Glory of God. How else can Man feel God's awesomeness than to analyze God's Creations.

why not. the awesomeness of earthquake and diseases right?

Proffdada: The TRUTH is that ooman is a homo and blames God for his devilish inclinations

why should I blame god for my devilish act, why not blame the devil

Proffdada: boolean logic 1+1=1 they r spirits not physically separated

dumb and impossible logic

EUROBOMBER: Don't mind the fool. When he starts roasting in hell he will understand. ooman, whenever u see people roasting a goat just jump into the fire. When they ask u what u are doing just tell them that u are doing rehearsals on how u will cope in hell. Better start rehearsing now.[/b]

I know your god is a man roasting horrible monster. Who told you am afraid of him. You think your god is bad enough, but I am better, you think your god is great but I am greater. Yahweh has committed more crime than anyone who ever existed, I will send him to hell myself and the great lucifer aka satan shall rule

meetdonald: In Science and Nature, there only 2 possible halves ie Positive and Negative Or Good and Bad Or Male and Female. Therefore in the believe of a greater power above Humans, there must be the Good Power and the Bad Power. The Good power equates to God while the other to Satan. Also from the beggining, every tribe, village, cvilisation have a sense of a being who is more powerful than Man, this being is praised when times are good, and also when times are bad, they ask for help. Even many aspects of their lives was made to reflect the respect for the being, e.g the Aztecz make Human sacrifice to their Sun god for favourable Harvest. Therefore if our ancestors believed in supernatural beings and events, there must be a Universal ''Good Being'' in which all religion, cvilisation praise in positive events, likewise a universal ''Bad Being'' exsist in which all negative events are tied to. Our ancestors had Science and Technology in their era as they worshipped Idols and Supernatural Beings, but that did not stop they from acknowledging a greater power than Science. So why is "Modern Science" waging war with the exsistence of God or a Supernatural Being?
Does the Knowledge to explain all natural events, creatures mean God does not Exist?
Is there no unexplainable and Unanswerable events in Which Science is helpless?
Can Man explain why He has the unsatiable ugre to become better?
Can Science explain when a cancer of whatever disappears when the afflicted seeks the healing power from God?

For all those who say God does not exist, Who or What made You, or the animals and all Beautiful and Perfect Environment we call Earth? "Chance'' alone can NOT make is possible for you wake in the Morning and know that the Sun will be there for you Or guarrante that your Son will look just like you.

God is Real, Satan is Real. Those who believe do not say Satan does exist. Those who are Satan's pawn say God does nt exists. The greater trick of Satan is to make you question/rebel God. Be Wise.

The earth is not perfect

Ihedinobi: So in your opinion, this conversation makes sense:

ooman: a flying pig exists.

Ihedinobi: silence

ooman: do you believe it?

Ihedinobi: no

ooman: prove why you don't

Yeah, makes a heap of sense.

What claim exactly do I thus make?

There can be only two sides, Yes and No. You either believe for a reason or disbelieve for a reason. Once you choose to disbelieve, burden of proof is on you as well as on me because we both are making opposite claims since we dont agree. Is that too much for you to comprehend??

Ihedinobi: Laxity? What laxity?

If there is a mistake in a system, whose fault is it, the system's or the designer's. Just answer this question for christ's sake.

Ihedinobi: You're not, like, throwing in the towel too, are you? Because the question I asked was pretty simple. It only required you to show that you were not trying to escape the issue by raising red herrings?

The designer never said he created such systems as you claim. You may quote such designer first, then i will give this more attention. Your idea of God is created in your head.

Ihedinobi: Are those words only used to denote probability?

Are they used to denote certainty . Na wa ooo!!

Ihedinobi: You do understand why quotes are used like I used them everytime I used them with your purported "mistakes", right?

How does this apply to the question?

Ihedinobi: Well, as I have said already, if creation was crafted to operate in a certain way and its administrator failed to maintain that particular way or operating condition, then such "mistakes" would start to result and they would be evidence of a departure from a perfect design and thus the existence of a perfect design and designer.

What accounts for mistakes during DNA replication, man's administration? is this what you mean? then you must be ignored

Ihedinobi: The first thing is whatever your prefered theory of evolution says it is I already said as much. I'm sure it qualifies considering that you demanded for something whose genome was built from scratch and thus owes none of it to some ancient ancestor. Or doesn't it?

I think you are to show how it could not have been designed. That's why you demanded it, no? And you did not require that I should have seen it, is that necessary? And why is it necessary if it is?

Lol @ delusions. We could spend the rest of our days hurling claims like thar at each other and achieve little. Just prove that I am by destroying my arguments.

Now i understand you cannot be taken seriously. You are a guesser

The first life matter is under research. I cannot tell you any more on that now but what i know is that since life can self coordinate, it also self originated.

^^^Exactly. Ihedinobi is a disappointment to intelligence

Pastor Olu T: As one with a rational mind, please explain this if you can?

How do you explain the perfection in which the world was created or came to be, that everything is just precise? Except there is a master planner somewhere?

There is no perfection in nature. Nature is progressive not instant. There are processes like natural disasters that kills life. If an intelligence made nature, he would know to clean up the junks of nature, like cosmic rays that cause cancer, earthquake that destroys among others.

Pastor Olu T: How do we came from non life to life?

Science is finding that out

Pastor Olu T: How do you explain the supernatural occurrence in the world like miracles, actually witnessed and would love to share?

OK, share but i can tell you that there are no supernatural occurences in nature. What you call supernatural is your lack of understand of natural events. Pls share your experience so i may know about it.

Pastor Olu T: How come there are evil and good, and why is it easier to do evil than good?
more coming

Because to live means to kill.

Let me ask you, if your God is good, how come there is evil, except he is evil himself

[quote author=m.k.o2005]To follow God or not to follow HIM has always been a thing of choice ! But we are saying that you stand to loose so much if there is God,heaven and hell on the long run and you are not qualified ! But if you follow HIM,wether HE exists at the end or HE does not exist at the end,you don't loose anything ! It's a gain gain situation for you . Give a thot to it bro!
A christian isn't homophobic ! Take a look at the Christ we follow ! No one stones any one to death for not obeying God you know !
God is God and does what ever HE pleases! HE can't do things like we expect HIM to do becos we are humans and HE is God! Thank God for HIS son Jesus in that second dispensation who paid the price of death with HIS blood. Halelujah cos we can't die anymore ! Today we disobey and do not face instant judgement becos of the son of God,Jesus.If it were in those days,God would hav stricken you to death for ur alterances alone like the amalekites and the hittites.But it's no longer that way,not that HE can't do it but HE will not becos of the blood of HIS son. God made us and can do whatsoever HE pleases with us but still HE want's HIS own to have a FREEWILL ! He does not want to compel us to do even as it is very obvious that HE can but the joy of it all is in the willingness !
Jesus loves you all. muskeeto,ifesnes,oooman,skyfall,billlonaire,naija pagan,ptolomeus and the rest of you here on NL. GOD BLESS YOU.
God help us all[/quote]I laugh at how you have deluded yourself. You really believe a man who died 2000 years ago is still alive to save you?? Heck, i believe that Elvis is still alive then

Proffdada: Christians don't condemn but are trying to save souls from eternal damnation. U can't hate God all your life by saying He doesn't exist. All atheists do this to hide the pain they suffer for a loss which the devil feeds on and presents them with the question:WHERE WAS GOD WHEN IT ALL HAPPENED? the real question should be why does God allow such situations? The answers lie in the scriptures,everything happen for a reason,that's the way meterologists predict weather;sport analysts forcasts matches,archeologists carbon date fossils,economists monitor nations wealth,mathematicians win lotteries etc. The universe is balanced by the hand of the Almighty otherwise the big bang will still be in a confused chaotic state of decided whether to explode or not. [b]What science haz done so far is to authenticate the bible.[/b]by the evidences science provides based on the limitation within physics on earth l,scientists still come to the point of INDUCTION and INFERENCE cuz they can only come close to the TRUTH. JESUS is the TRUTH and the LIGHT by which all knowledge and wisdom is given.

science never authenticate the bible, both are incompatible. the bible contradicts science and nature in so many ways

^^^^If the faith you mean is being pragmatic and proactive then i agree, but if it demands believing that an invisible skydaddy god is caring for you, forget it.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]What do you stand to loose if you follow God ? May be just drunkenness,adultery/fornication,murder,hatred,gossip,greed, covetousness and many other negative habits ! So,why keep all these negative things with you ?
God help us[/quote]I stand to lose my sense of reason and my rationality if I follow god.

God committed multiple genocides killing the amalekites and the hittites etc, murder of women and children and an unjust killing of a baby among others - I stand to live a pure life if I dont follow the monster xtian/muslim god.

I stand to lose my sense of humanity and stone homosexuals to death if I follow god.

Therefore, the best thing is to reject the idea of the existence of any god in order to achieve full humanity.

Proffdada: ur juvenile alzheimer's really catching up fast to know that the idol worshippers a Supreme Being

Ok I give up. Let the god worshippers do what they know to do best - condemn others.
Am an atheist and I know better.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]oooooomaaaaaannn ! Do you know you can work for God ?[/quote]If only the god I will work for exist. The fact is that, he doesn't.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]Those who believe in a god thinking it's the Almighty God are far better than you who is completely empty believing in nothing ! How wise or foolish are you the atheist ?
God help u[/quote]how so?

[quote author=:: VMF ::]The factor that atheists/free-thinkers tenaciously hold on to is 'proof'....so pathetic! The paramount thing is drawing the line between the spiritual and the physical.

The white man brought Christianity under whichever guise...true, but a through-and-through assessment remains the bottom line. The part that gets me overwhelmingly perplexed is the urge by aethists to undoubtedly believe (with evidence) that Jesus was truly here on earth, and it gets me asking if any aethist has ever gone on a pilgrimage before![/quote]Sango was truly here too, that doesnt make him a God

Lilimax: I have this conviction that you know the truth. Remember that you will give account of all your actions on the last day. Have a nice day

Story, Story. I know the truth that there is no God

Lilimax: hahahahehehehe . Whatever you think, I want to tell you that there is a Supreme Being called God.
He is the owner of your life. You breath belongs to him. If he takes your breath, you are gone. Acknowledge Him today before it is too late for life is transient. Tomorrow may be too late and there is no repentance in the grave.

Let him take the breadth away and lets see if i will not continue to live

you amaze me with your ignorance

Lilimax: God is everything you can think of. Both nature, spiritual, physical, imaginary, etc. He is even your creator.
Just accept it and leave it there.

God is therefore the imaginary character your brain made up.

alfaman2: Muskeeto = Striktlymi?

Wonderful. Ol boy, do you get paid to impersonate yourself?

wetin i dey see sooooo

Lilimax: You will never understand because spiritual things are not thought, rather they are caught .

nature is physical never spiritual. you just contradicted that nature is God since God is spiritual. God can never be nature and if nature is the God you want to worship, be my guest

Reyginus: Lol. You know I don't like deviating. You can open a thread for that. Let's understand atheism strictly.

why dont you answer him first and stop deviating

Proffdada: Are you having subdural haematoma not know that islam is was fou.ded AD?

and you are psychotic enough not to know even idolatry predates xtianity?

adsonstone: @Ooman, it is even clear that you don't understand why and how you were a christian. If you did, you won't consider believing in scientific facts about creation or about the existence of God. (You need to understand the simple christian doctrines)

so i should just have blind faiths

you can help me understand the doctrines though

Lilimax: It is only a fool that says there is no God. For your information, My Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, died and resurrected. He is currently seated at the right hand of God making intercession for the saint.
These are MYSTERIES- Human reasoning can never comprehend it except you are spiritually discerned.

delusions

Lilimax: I beg to disagree. God is nature and nature is God.

how so?

Kay 17: ^^ simply ask em if they accept microevolution and half of your headaches go.

way to go

Segeggs: wooman will always support woman

whatever, your god remains useless