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striktlymi: LWKMD!!! You guys would need to come up with some 'super duper' logic to demonstrate all that you have accused me of

simple points you keep ignoring is the fact that since god already knew Esau would sin and hated him already, then Esau must. Failure of Esau to sin would mean that god was WRONG in his visions. Now since god CANNOT be wrong as you religious would argue, then Esau MUST sin. His freewill nullified.

Ihedinobi: @op

Two questions:

1. When is this "long ago" that God knew things that would happen?

2. Based on what do you make your arguments?

did you read the OP at all?

Logicboy03: You have just stated a clear reason why your God is a fraud and strengthened the op.

Your God claims to love us human beings and hate sin. Why did he then allow Esau to lead a life of sin since he (God) knew what Esau was going to be before Esau was born?


Abeg.....you must be real dumbazz to even put freewill in hte same post after claiming that God knew that Esau was going to be a sinner before Esau was even born. Esau had no freewill to be good as God has ordained it that Esau will be a sinner.

striktlymi continue to prevaricate and ignore the obvious truth on this matter simply because the concept destroys Gods existence and goodness.

striktlymi: I agree with the above. Indeed man's freewill and God's omniscience are exclusive. They both co-exist without conflict. I have already demonstrated this in my first response so no need going through it again.

there is your blunder.

on mobile now, once am on PC, I will spell out the problems that you failed to see.

striktlymi: Responded!

you have shown a great level of intellectual failure by implying that mutual exclusion means two things can exist together. Do I have to teach you that it means two things CANNOT exist together?

you continue to prevaricate, indeed evading the truth.

I am yet to decide if am to take you seriously on this matter since you lack knowledge of what mutual exclusion means, how can you possibly understand the OP.?

the first dream is quite clear. Nigerians are either xtians or muslims. that is the path that seemed right but which leads to destruction since we are religious and we remain poor.

You saw god. the dream is telling you that we must do away with god and christianity and islam in order to be successful.

your second dream is insanity.

Reyginus: Lol. But you've been trying so hard to. You always indulge in what you cannot handle. The reason I respect the dudes here.

I engaged you until you started asking dumb questions-what is the opposite of same sex, what is inanimate.

at times I wonder how anyone take you seriously.

Pastor Olu T: How long did you give your life to Christ or were you a christian (Religious) and which church were you attending then?

I spoke in tongues, saw visions, thought I heard God

I was a true God believer when I was a xtian. I have tasted everything god has to offer and it is empty.

I know where you are going with this
you want to blame me again as you xtians always do.

striky, I have posted your reply.

OLAADEGBU: Are you saying that you will become a believer in Christ and be born again if I show you the evidence?

Show me an irrefutable evidence of 6 days creation and genomes getting built from scratch and certainly yes.

its all about the evidence for me.

Reyginus: Lol. You have nothing to offer. Take a rest.

I have nothing to offer to dumb people

Reyginus: ^^^Lol. You don't have to edit it. That's too bad.

what

OLAADEGBU: Once I provide the evidence would you become a believer?

Certainly Yes.

Reyginus: Lol. Yes, I really want to. Don't invite google this time.

I have no time for trolls

Reyginus: But you said so yourself.

quote me

Reyginus: Lol. When stuck in a trap you demand googling. Good for you.

I cant waste my time teaching you ABCs

Reyginus: They are opposite in the sense that one is proposing an idea the other is antagonising. I shouldn't even be explaining this. When you use the bible as reference you should also point out if it stands as norm. Where it doesn't appear so, your analogy is preposterous.
You are not helping this argument by being disingenous. What is the opposite of 'same-sex' intercouse?

you really want me to tell you the opposite of same sex?

Reyginus: What does it mean to be animate in the first place?

google that

This is what am saying. inanimate chemicals also carry charges in their ionic state.

OLAADEGBU: Evidence my friend, Evidence of the work of creation and redemption is all around you except you are living in a dark cave.

what is the evidence of 6 days creation?

Reyginus: ooman said it himself. He believes in God.

Get thee behind me Satan - How could i believe in God

byns: quit trying to derail this thread. I am not preaching, i have only come to state openly the Word i have specific for Prof. Stephen Hawkins. If anyone has ears, let him hear.

am not derailing the thread. Am only trying to tell you that you should not victimize people.

Reyginus: Lol. You are making me laugh. How can the two out of two opposing things be the norm?

now you are being unreasonable. how are they occurring now? how did they survive history together? even the ancient bible mentions it. how could they survive if the are opposing.

one never opposes the other. the homosexuals find surrogate mum if they need children.

Reyginus: Lol. You don't understand. The cells in question here are yet to be animated. How do explain that?

do you know that inorganic chemicals carry more charges. Do you know of ionic bonding?

Reyginus: Those were analogies we employed to help the argument. Now, please answer the question.

both are. one is more common than the other. homosexuality increases with increasing overpopulation.

^^^olodo. who told you that cells do not carry charges?

google charges around cells, especially multicellular cells to learn more. I have no time to teach here.

OLAADEGBU: My entire post is filled with not only facts but the Truth. The Word of God is confirmed by the facts/evidence that we see. If you claim otherwise you are free to present it here and if not you are free to cling to your own opinion.

how well do you do with 6 days creation.?

how well do you do with the story of resurrection?

Reyginus: Stop beating about the bush over a simple question. You are beginning to talk as though the word 'impure' is exclusive to an inhomeostatic health condition. Inorganic chemistry is not far off my friend. Let me rephrase my question. Between homosexuality or heterosexuality which is the norm?

you are the one beating around the bush. you raised an issue of psychosis and madness when we are discussing homosexuality. so why should I take you seriously?

byns: thanks for making your choice, atleast let him make his own decision. besides the question is what are you afraid of, how is the Word of God victimizing, how is it taking advantage of his situation?

why dont you see vision on someone whole and healthy, like Bill Gates or Richard Dawkins.

Go to the street of Lagos and preach to beggars, the would believe you because they lack intelligence.

Pastor Olu T: When did you give your life to Christ and when did you make your discovery?

I was a true worshiper of the xtian god until 3 years ago.

OLAADEGBU: Present your facts to back up your claims don't make emotional assertions without concrete evidence.

I did that on another thread- www.nairaland.com/1231831/genesis-great-work-plagiarism


the facts that ancient yorubas think that is was Ifa who provided them with herbs does not mean that it is true even though herbs truly exist.

some of the things about nature written in the bible are true because they are the result of simple observation and never because god exist.

byns: ^^ Hi there,
there is nothing to really argue about, no one is falling prey to anyone/gimmicks- it is a Word for him. All Prof Hawkins needs to do is only say the word and he shall be healed.

I can never say the victimizing word even if I have 1 more second to live and am certain Hawkins too knows enough than to fall victim of you taking advantage of his situation.

stop mocking him. stop taking advantage of people situation to preach your god.