₦airaland Forum

freegaza:
A toilet paper is more valuable and better than a southern nigerian newspaper

Beaf:
How do you think you sound?

ur humor is amusing at times,

if our licencing company know what they r doing and doing what they should, they would have traced the owner of the car that had the bomb,
all the numerous loopholes are now being exposed,
All these is just a wakeup call to everyone
i hope we can trace our steps before its too late

the poster is the ''Ugonna Alison-Madueke'', his very first post is the one he uses to defend and clear his name.
i think i should work with the CIA,

byrron:
Whn 1man is been adviced by 24 dfrnt people in addition with d crap he recieves from over 40sometin ministers, obviously he cant be normal again. Imagine d kind of quality advice coming from a dunce like labaran maku who happens to b d MI talkless of d likes of sarah jibril a 1million times pdp presidential aspirant at dia regular (pdp) cash and carry primaries. Nigeria must be a huge joke factory.

we r the happiest people on mother earth

special adviser on special advises,

dustydee:
[b]Beaf where were you [/b]when the same people you are trying to vilify were fighting to keep your master in office?

Where the hell were all u pro-GEJ activists?
we were quick to call GEJ ''DAVID'' of the bible yet we forget that even Saul was also annointed till he f.ucked up,

BTW whats SNG

Negro_Ntns:
. . . .and they were dispatched by a poorly trained CiC.  

Would you deploy a poorly trained army on your citizens if you were President?  

No,. . .hold on, where are you from again?    fishermen of downcreek pedigree flock together, think alike and act similar!

#CLAPPING FOR U#
@beef: never support wrong based on sentiments.

Korrection:
NA WAOOOO, BUT WHY LAGOS OH GOD, WHO DEM KILL NOW , NA THE PERSON KNOW OH, THIS IS BECOMING ANTI-GOVT, NOT REALLY GOOD

keep asking?

actually, i feel the ''pro-subsidy'' crusaders should begin their protest to completely remove the subsidy because 5yrs down the road, they wld stil remind us how the nation is being run by ''subsidy'' and it then the new price wld be N300/lrt.
and btw, i heard the Boko Haram gun runner escaped  
ur GEJ visonaire is handling a wanted criminal with police boys and he deployed soldiers to lag to disrupt a peaceful protest.
#ur govt is truly working indeed Beaf  
i really wonder where the subsidy funds wld end up,

what a joke, its on channels tweet,
we subsidize our lives and security by hiring personal security.
so they left a highly wanted criminal in the hands of mere police boys and they deployed soldiers to stop a peaceful protest in lagos
crazy govt, where are the pro-subsidy crusaders? #ur govt is working#

the land is greener where u water it not milk it dry,
the developed countries have all watered their land through favourable policies and co, yet our govt has milked us dry throung reckless spending and embezzlement.
if the leakage of the country which is caused by staggering govt expenditures, then they should first remove the subsidy/free entitlements they enjoy eg, free medical care, free transport,free allowances, etc,
do u know that the niger bridge, third mainland bridge, 60bn abuja sadium, abuja city, stolen loot, swiss bank frozen funds,, etc were all commited while fuel was subsidized? so what magic does the govt want to tell us that they wld use the excess money for?
the bigger pix here for ur docile brain is that the govt should cut their selfish expenses before they advice the masses to start drinking pure water for N20

Omo_Tier1:
These same 'slaves' abroad sent a whooping $9bn into the Nigerian economy in 2011 alone. Your GEJ puppet government could not invest such an amount in infrastructure in Nigeria through 2011! So much for your 'Education' in Nigeria,  

and that is why i would shut up any mouth that speaks against our protest both home and abroad,
why dont u  anti-protest and anti-subsidy removal come to nigeria and live?
u all wanna live where the govt is sensitive to its citizens and even make room for both legal and illegal immigrants like u,

a very big shame on those of you who feel protesting against subsidy both home and abroad is a waste of time.
Didnt all of you not run to the UK to stay because NIGERIA was nothing to write home about?
Many of u have rich folks and are living off stolen govt money.
abeg keep your snobbish opinions to your self, if the queen of england and her immediate and extended families with a drop of royal blood were living the way our politicians and co live at the expense of the masses, do u think UK wld be the way it is?
Abeg eh, if u have nothing constructive to say, just sharrap.
after all the world witnesed the riots of some mad brits just cos the govt wanted to increace what and what (despite the fact that they also live on social security)
Keep living in UK and paying for the citizens indirectly.
when Nigeria has a turn around, u wld now begin to deport urselfs back home and start singing ''east or west, home is best'', ndi ara

coogar:
you're a miserable sod!

thats why ur miserable a.ss is slaving away in the UK all in the name of i must live abroad.
how many brits live in Nigeria?
thats why they would continue to insult u in more ways than u can imagine.
if u cant see the bigger picture here then ur foreign education is a waste of our stolen money,

@ gogs

and what is the maximum wage for all their govt officials?

Omo_Tier1:
Still in Pain?,  We told you it will happen, the world is watching,  Wait when the moment is right, we will fish you out and show NL the traitor called beaf!

Stil in Pain?,  thought you said protest would die in a day or two,  oh, I saw your other post in the other thread,  haha,  now you'r talking about Nigeria spliting up?, ND, then SE?,  oh,  i thought the protest would achieve nothing ,  Electronic COWARD!!

it would have happened if ur past govts had the brains and decency to have developed the country enough to accommodate londoners and other oyibo's.
well im not surprised cos then we were begin led by a bunch of stark illiterates

23 years ago, 1988 2 be precise, the den SUG
president of the university of JOS led a team of
students who rioted against the den military
dictator (IBB)'s removal of oil subsidy.
He labelled it " a crime against the Nigerian masses
and a war against the poor" That SUG president Ȋ̝̊̅§ MR LABARAN MAKU.
The current Minister for Information who has
recently said that the removal of oil subsidy is long
overdue.
Isn't that intresting and funny?
Pls copy and post to your friends until it gets to 1 of
LABARAN MAKU'S friends and himself to defend.
Make UNA dey see People,

abbey621:
Oh! Nigerian people and their rundown statistics. You want to talk about statistics let's start with this, all the countries mentioned in your analysis have working refineries except for Nigeria. All the countries in your analysis have alternative forms of energy except for Nigeria. Most of the countries on your list have corrupt leaders, so we know corruption is not the major issue, the real issue is the state of refineries and the apparent coup by the marketers and rich businessmen in Nigeria to cripple the electricity supply in Nigeria thus making fuel the most demanded commodity in Nigeria. Our chronic dependency on oil has landed us in deep mess, imagine any little fiasco, pengassen and other fuel bigots threatens strike action, and who ends up hurting more, the masses. We want to continue enjoying 65/naira per liter without a working refinery, that's a big joke! Wake up people, the world is in a deep recession, Nigeria's population is humongous and our greed as a nation is out of this world. One thing baffles me though, why didn't anyone protest before the fuel subsidy was removed, none of you bothered to complain about the fact that we have to import refined oil just to meet our consumption demands, none of you bothered to protest the state of electricity in the country, but as soon as fuel subsidy was removed, you flock to the streets and yell "injustice". When would we stop reasoning based on emotions and start working together as a nation of intellects, perhaps that's the problem, Nigerians are so intelligent that they always fail to see the simple path, if fuel subsidy remains, the government would never build the refineries because wealthy men are enjoying most of the subsidies and Igbo businessmen loves to profit from the sales of generators, instead let's demand that the government remove the subsidy as long as it's done in order to build refineries, I know the government is corrupt but seriously[b] upon reading the subsidy plan [/b]and knowing that GEJ is not a cold-hearted president, I'm sure it will be worth the sacrifice, don't tell me Nigerian masses can't afford 140 naira per liter fuel, we spend more going to cybercafe , recharging our phones or drinking beer with the guys.

this is certainly not the first time we have heard of all the magical plans they have,
.50yrs after and they r still planning. smh

Starbaby1:
Maybe you should check my previous posts and see that I am NOT against the protest! Again all i did was to express my opinion of it being IRONIC! Everyone you mentioned  Tibetans, Irannians etc, where they protesting about petrol prices? No! If iranian homeless people in the UK decided to protest about homelessness in iran, that would be ironic as they are facing similar conditions in Uk, can you see where I am coming from?

The answer to your second question, the price of petrol does hurt people's pocket in the Uk, just listen to news. Some people are forced to sell their cars, and most people buying cars are only buying hybrid ones. Yes the price of food went up, car tax went up, even ordinary TV license went up! If you leave in the UK are you honestly saying you have not noticed any of these increase? Many are homeless because their rent went up and their benefit went down, common man lets not make blind argument here.

I would like to stress again, i do not appreciate being called names, you can disagree with me all you want, but this is a civilised forum, give me the respect am giving you!

thats all i needed someone to say,
we dont phucking have that so how do u cushion the effect on the masses? the tom-tom i buy N5 is now N15,

abbey621:
Oh! Nigerian people and their rundown statistics. You want to talk about statistics let's start with this, all the countries mentioned in your analysis have working refineries except for Nigeria. All the countries in your analysis have alternative forms of energy except for Nigeria. Most of the countries on your list have corrupt leaders, so we know corruption is not the major issue, the real issue is the state of refineries and the apparent coup by the marketers and rich businessmen in Nigeria to cripple the electricity supply in Nigeria thus making fuel the most demanded commodity in Nigeria. Our chronic dependency on oil has landed us in deep mess, imagine any little fiasco, pengassen and other fuel bigots threatens strike action, and who ends up hurting more, the masses. We want to continue enjoying 65/naira per liter without a working refinery, that's a big joke! Wake up people, the world is in a deep recession, Nigeria's population is humongous and our greed as a nation is out of this world. One thing baffles me though, why didn't anyone protest before the fuel subsidy was removed, none of you bothered to complain about the fact that we have to import refined oil just to meet our consumption demands, none of you bothered to protest the state of electricity in the country, but as soon as fuel subsidy was removed, you flock to the streets and yell "injustice". When would we stop reasoning based on emotions and start working together as a nation of intellects, perhaps that's the problem, Nigerians are so intelligent that they always fail to see the simple path, if fuel subsidy remains, the government would never build the refineries because wealthy men are enjoying most of the subsidies and Igbo businessmen loves to profit from the sales of generators, instead let's demand that the government remove the subsidy as long as it's done in order to build refineries, I know the government is corrupt but seriously upon reading the subsidy plan and knowing that GEJ is not a cold-hearted president, I'm sure it will be worth the sacrifice, don't tell me Nigerian masses can't afford 140 naira per liter fuel, we spend more going to cybercafe , recharging our phones or drinking beer with the guys.

AjanleKoko:
Just stay in Lithonia, so gbo
Leave us with GEJ.

Dont mind him
everybody must sha talk,

And for those of u who ran abroad to school and not wash plates and dead bodies, pls read and know why we r against this.

Read this wiki entry

It still is a mystery how the cost of subsidy shot up to 1.3 trillion naira in just one year of President Goodluck Jonathan's administration, especially since ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo's administration spent 300 billion Naira per year. When the Obasanjo government left power in 2007, the country was no longer in debt and the 30 billion dollar foreign debt that Obasanjo met when he came to power in 1999 was fully paid off. Today, under the administration of Jonathan, the country owes debt to the tune of 30 billion dollars and is still borrowing. Foreign reserves have been depleted from 80 billion dollars during the Obasanjo administration to 33 billion dollars under the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan.

When the Obasanjo administration left power in 2007, 23 billion dollars was left in the Excess Crude Account after he built it up from nothing in 1999. Today, the account is empty because the money has been squandered and the account scrapped.[citation needed]

In the 2012 budget, President Jonathan allocated 1 billion Naira for his feeding and several other wasteful statehouse expenditure running into several million dollars. For instance, money allocated for feeding the presidential family was a reported 300 million naira



this is a cumulative fight against corruption,govt ineptitude,govt inefficiency and a war against the rich and the poor.

a very big shame on those of you who feel protesting against subsidy both home and abroad is a waste of time.
Didnt all of you not run to the UK to stay because NIGERIA was nothing to write home about?
Many of u have rich folks and are living off stolen govt money.
abeg keep ur snobbish opinions to ur self, if the queen of england and her immediate and extended families with a drop of royal blood were living the way our politicians and co live at the expense of the masses, do u think UK wld be the way it is?
Abeg eh, if u have nothing constructive to say, just sharrap.
after all the world witnesed the riots of some mad brits just cos the govt wanted to increace what and what (despite the fact that they also live on social security)
Keep living in UK and paying for the citizens indirectly.
when Nigeria has a turn around, u wld now begin to deport urselfs back home and start singing ''east or west, home is best'', ndi ara

karpentar:
I think I have the same opinion with you. It's not sufficient matching up just minimum wages across countries. The comparison should also embrace costs of products and services. For instance, whilst I can barb my hair to any style at N150 in naija, elsewhere like in UK, it's not less than £5 (about 250x5=N1250). Also, a premium lager such as Asahi, costs about £4 (N1000) in London, whereas, popular brands in naija are between N200-N250. Again, spacious three bedroom flats boasting of two en suite bathrooms in UK go as high as £1000 (N250000) per week translating to N13million in a year. That's much much much higher than flat rents in naija. There are so many other examples, so, you really have to put things in context to make sense. If you do, you just might realize that a minimum wager in naija may perhaps be better off.

Well that my dear is not the fault of the masses. ask ur govt the kind of decisions they made then that has affected us now.
after all there was a time $1 was equal to N1, and if it were to remain so till now, u would still barb ur hair for N5 ,

Twoboys:
We may never agree on: what we really subsidizing: corruption, inefficiencies or fuel, when will be the best time to remove the subsidy etc, but we can at least agree on who should pay for the subsidy for as long as we allow it to exist. That is were GEJ logic has remained superior: [b]NO TO BORROWING OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE FOR SUBSIDIZING US. [/b]We have seen the 2012 budget proposals, how do we pay another 1.3 trillion naira? cut personnel cost? labour is already fuming over the proposed merger of parasatal amd ministries becos it may lead to sack of some workers? cut the vote on health, education, agriculture and security etc which have all been said to be inadequate in the first place? Labour need to give her own answer to that question.

our debt was paid off before OBJ left office.
did they borrow 1.3trillion to subsidize 10% of our consumption?
then who then funds their lavish and extravagant spending? is it the masses?
469 NASS members (minus others) gulp N1.12trillion and its OK?
As Tu-face said, If u wanna go to heaven, be prepared to die first.
if the leakage of nigeria is to be mopped up, then the source of the leak must be checked and sealed.
if Obama can reduce call for a salary cut, the British PM reduce his convoy to only two (as i hear, i never go UK before), i don't see any reason why ur GEJ and co cant do the same.
Honestly i blame the financial advisers for not first championing a reduction in govt spending before singing for subsidy removal.
leadership is from top to bottom.
the govt and co can afford the new pump price and every increment that goes with it but not the masses (which include the jobless,the old, the retired without pension, the less privileged, the physically challenged)

If we produce 2.2m barrels/day, and consume just 10% of that, why is it so hard to subsidize that 10% we consume ?

What happened to other parts of our economy

The so-called minimum wage is even yet to be approved and paid , mtchewwww

its comments like these that gives the govt the gutts to make insensitive decisions at the expence of the helpless masses and to the advantage of their pockect, after running a rat race for 50yrs, the best way out is subsidy removal?
i do pray that the labors of our heros past wouldnt be in vain.
When OBJ left office, ALL OUR DEBTS WERE PAID OFF so how do we justify the subsidy removal?///havent they embezzeled enough? some have been lost to swiss bank and other foreign unknown banks, the worst type of robbery is the pen and paper types and insensitive and selfish polices made,

wait a minuit, r u guys blaming NLC for announcing a strike or the Govt who caused the NLC to announce the strike?,
Pro-subsidy removal campaigners have forgotten that basically everything in Nigeria has been created with a subsidized petrol.
The Niger bridge was created, Aso Rock with all its grandeur was created, abuja as a city was created, the existing refineries that were allowed to rut were built, The N60b abuja stadium ws constructed, third mainland bridge was created, N18b Tafa Balogun stole was available, The one Bode George was arrested for was availble, the one EFCC is chasing Bankole for was available, the one they have been embezzling through ridiculous govt allowances and estacodes have been available, the list is endless,
So if all the above were done with our petrol being subsidized, what magic do they then wanna do with the excess from its removal?, if the country is broke, then they should drastically cut down on their spending spree becos u cannot tell me or any enlightened Nigerian that it is the pure water seller or the okada rider or the aboki man who is making the country bankrupt, as i said earlier,this is the last straw for the already staggering camel,

A govt that is not interested in addressing the cost of governance that is crippling this country has no moral right to remove the subsidy that directly impacts in the lives of the poor masses.
No amount of power point slides by Sanusi and Iweala can win the argument.
If there is a cabal feeding fat on the subsidy, go after them.
you spend millions and billions buying food in the presidency and stationery in Sambo's office and you try to justify increasing fuel price by over 100 percent? It is immoral and no amount of petro-economic lecture can justify it.
As long as the masses see a 'come and chop' govt in action, the subsidy debate would always be lost by the govt.
If they claim that fuel subsidy is what will crash the economy, let it be. the salaries of all the SSA, SA and PAs in Aso rock and the clowns in NASS will not crash the economy,abi?
these liars have no conscience, #stolen Comment#

GEJ didn't wait for the senate and house of reps before he removed subsidy but u want us to follow due process before protests is carried out?

, and for those of us who served in villages, our aged and less privilledge people have suffered and being stretched long enough. this is an unnecessary suffering many cannot endure or cope under, i totally feel like an Israelite in the Egyptian era, i think everyone in AsoRock should be evacuated. their presence there isnt making any positive difference on the lives of nigerians and their absence wouldnt either, we need to start over (new constitution,new leaders,new everything), the army,airforce,navy,police,, civilians should all speak against this broad day light govt disguised embezzlement, its not the first time we heard of development from the removal of subsidy (diesel and petrol in OBJ's time) but this will be the last.

hey, i purposely joined NL because i realized how unrealistic and callous Beaf's comments have been, how do u comfortably compare UK with Nigeria?.if the UK had as much wealth and Oil reserves as Nigeria, can u imagine the standard of living their citizens and foreigners would be living? pls Nigeria has endured enough in silence and this is the last straw for the camel, there are various leakages  from the govt and they cry the country is broke, their kids in foreign schools,foreign medical ''check ups'' and treatments, exorbitant furniture,clothing,entertainment,feeding,travel,, etc allowances are all leakages the govt should mop up, in their recent budget, there was no allocation for the unemployed,indigent,physically challenged or the old in the country (or are they nor part of Nigeria), if subsidy is the only was we get to partake in the National cake/crumbs, so be it,