₦airaland Forum

Kay-Dee:
[size=13pt] Oh pleaseeeee !!!! Justify what ? ? I don't support violence in any form and not all Muslims support it either even though the perpetrators claim to be acting on commands from the Koran.
You and I know the Christians will NEVER react in the same way with violent protests and killings; every 5-year old kid knows this so the comparison with "Angels and Demons" is baseless.
If you know for sure the volcano is going to erupt, don't go knocking on its cone and justify your actions by saying , "I knocked on the other one and nothing happened". My point remains, that they very well knew what the uproar would be and the level to which it would escalate so they should have Moha' in peace especially when innocent people will suffer the consequences. [/size]

And I wld always ask why Yoruba Muslims dont get their blood boiling and react the same way Northern muslims do...(Pls someone shld answer this)
or is it only in NL and social media u can react?
If Yoruba's dont violently react,why do the rest do so? or is their Mohammed,Allah and faith any different?

AMvanquish: Proudly muslim! But the islam I was brought up with did not teach me to
Force religion on others! Just like some xtians would deny
Other sects in their religion.

So before u say Christians hate ur religion,ask urself what makes them do so cos BH is still within our midst...

princeajuwon: If u claimed dat there is LAW and yet there is no respect for peoples' faith and believe,then how do u define d LAW u claimed it exist?what is happening in d WORLD 2day is as a result of lack of respect for the way of life some people chose.WHY always Islam and Muslim,you cant change us that's our way of life,we dont chose to be muslims but we are blessed and chosen by ALLAH to His religion.You cal Muslims terrorist when they stand to protect Islam and u cal it LAW wen people are terrorising them just because of their faith.Now a film is produced portraying our beloved prophet as such and you want us to keep silent.Ask ursef have u ever seen such produced by a muslim abt Jesus?u cant see it cos we luv him and we respect him.Please its high tym pple understand how we feel about our religion and our prophet.PLEASE REFLECT AND STOP SENTIMENTAL COMMENT.

Did u quote all this when BH was doing their misdeeds?

debosky: Ignorance and poverty eh? Osama Bin Laden - was he ignorant and poor? Abdul Muttalab who attended UCL and had rich parents - was he ignorant and poor too? Libyan Muslims have a higher standard of living and education than Nigerians - by what measure are they 'poor and ignorant'?

The fact that some Muslims in the Southwest (who aren't regarded as true Muslims by those up North anyways) didn't kill someone is due more to their stronger cultural sense of reason (being Yorubas) than any Muslim restraint or sense of reason.

Come up with new excuses please - maybe it's the harsh desert sunlight making them go mad.

wow...so untill u decide to kill for ur religion,ur not considered a true muslim?
Im still trying to understand where the "peaceful" part comes in..

oradee:

i donno...pls tell us what religion Boko Haram is forcing upon Nigerians?

AMvanquish: The religion the morons you claim are forcing upon Nigerians is not the religion I was
I was Brought up with.

Thats strange...cos it sounds like one and the same (Unless ur publicly denying ur religion?)

mathskill: Being deceitfull again. PAGAD stands for People against gangstarism and drugs just because muslims started it makes terrorist abi.They began as local vigilantes given the level of crime in southafrica.Now you come on nairaland and claim they are terrorist.Who designated them that label only you.

Thats how Boko Haram Started (claiming to be against Western Education) till they evolved into an ugly butterfly everyone is suffering with..
dont worry,the world is wiser to their gimmicks and pranks..

mosh_musth: Ur dumb, that was what the FG told u and made u belive it so... Open ur eye

Oh dear...And the governor of borno just lied when he said "Boko haram, wldnt convert Nig" or something like that.

U watch too many cartoons...leave African Magic and watch Channels or read the dailies

mathskill: Why didnt your God save himself when he was being nailed on the cross.

i refuse to reply ur silly comment but i hear urs is also dead...

Kay-Dee:
[size=13pt] The answer is obvious, you can choose to set up a big screen in Kabul City square and enjoy the movie on it, the marketers and importers can also choose to hawk the movie on the streets of Kandahar. My point is, you don't stir up a buzz that puts innocent people in harms way while you observe from your comfort zone. If Bacile's bravery was as high as his level of stu.pidity, he would have gone to the middle east to promote the movie himself.
It is a provocation coming from outside (the US) and it puts people in the danger zone. If the movie was produced by an Arab in Afghanistan then they can kill themselves and no outsider would get hurt. [/size]

and wasnt the davincci code together with Angels and Demons shown in movie theaters? and isnt the book still sold on the streets till this day?

You lot are really justifying and supporting the killings...No wonder Boko Haram has the guts to do wht they do

d_surrogat: buh i dnt undastand d conx btw d movie and d murder...are they sayng the dude in d movie is mohammed is dat ow mohd luks like?abi why al dis violence...and why d malevolence against american flag? is Jesus from america

Exactly...and they have refused to bomb isreali embassy even when the dude says he's Isreal.

truth is, America is just a hated country everyone wants to pin down but the more they try,the stronger America becomes.

Mustay: ----^,^,^,^-----
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For the first 13 years of his mission, the Prophet Muhammad and his followers were exposed to demeaning abuse, mockery and torture on a daily basis in Mecca. Not only did he resist violence, he did not even return an insult with another insult. At one point in Mecca, his enemies twisted his name to call him 'Mudhammam' (The Loathsome) instead of 'Muhammad' which deeply offended his followers. But the Prophet calmly comforted them by stating, "Doesn't it astonish you how God protects me from the Quraish's abusing and cursing? They abuse Mudhammam and curse Mudhammam while I am Muhammad."
[Source: Bukhari]

On Tuesday, September 11, extremists in Libya and Egypt reacted to an obscure film which attempts to insult the Prophet Muhammad with profane inaccuracies. But their reaction, which included vandalism and the murder of innocent civilians, completely contradicts the character and message of our beloved Prophet. In a famous Islamic tradition, he stated: "It is not allowed to cause harm to others nor to return harm for harm."

The Quran teaches us that we cannot blame or punish a person for the crime of another and instructs believers to "disagree with them in the most courteous way."

CelebrateMercy Founder Tarek El-Messidi stated, "When lies are spread about our Prophet, we simply respond with the truth. And the most effective response is to embody his merciful character on a daily basis. Violence and vandalism carried out in his name are more offensive than the content of any film.

The Quran tells us that the Prophet is praised by God and His Angels; even a million films cannot threaten his status as the Best of all Creation nor his love in our hearts."

In response to the crimes carried out in the Prophet's name, CelebrateMercy will soon launch a letter- writing campaign to the families of the innocents killed in Libya. We will also release more videos this week about the Prophet's life and character to remind us and others why we love our Prophet, peace be upon him. - Celebrate Mercy
Source -
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=kkoe5idab&v=001X6jYJeFlGfKc82g7lQ-CfpEjFd1TytlIa1okgR5DKCWKaFbb3FMAGsFMoApLQw4lnPTC4xsgE0eo4EQ6v6td0btESjkbue-2TEdhdleyKOrBkF2sDkQYZg%3D%3D


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“Christians and Muslims in Africa were living together in peace and harmony for centuries before the arrival of conspirators and dirty politicians,” who deliberately created enmity and hatred among people of different faiths, tribes and regions for selfish gains.

Source -
http://www.punchng.com/opinion/interfaith-relations-an-encounter-with-sheikh-khalid-yasin/


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“The only proper response to intentional provocations such as this film is to redouble efforts to promote mutual understanding between faiths and to marginalize extremists of all stripes,”

Source -
http://www.onislam.net/english/news/global/459006-muslims-urged-to-ignore-prophet-film.html



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After moderating on the religion section years back, I've realised it's best sometimes not to comment on such issues for the behavior and actions of some members one assumes are literate enough to read and understand different faiths and act not like the average agbero boy is something else. People are on a mission to completely damage another's religion which ironically makes a mockery of their faith.
Everyone 'll be judged according to their intentions anyway.

Peace

so those fighting and killing are doing them so ON WHOSE INSTRUCTIONS??

mathskill: Stand in middle of RCCG when they are in service and shout jESUS isnt God,stand on the great wall of china and shout taiwan isnt part of china,go to Telaviv and claim the holocaust didnt take place,go to turkey and say the PKK are not terrorists,go to tehran and accuse them that their nuclear programe isnt peaceful,go to bayelsa and say you are against resource control,go to ogun state and claim abiola didn't win the june 2003 presidential election,go to borno and shout boko haram are terrorists,enter thailand and abuse thier monarch,go to columbia say coca farming is bad,go to mexico and accuse them of exporting hard drugs to the U.S,get yourself get caught with half an ounce of cocaine in singapore and see etc in all the scenerios above you'l be extremely lucky to escape with your life.

Exactly...but if u go to Empire State building and shout Abiola didnt win elections,or Climb Eiffle towers and shout Jesus isnt the son of God,wld Nigerians (ogun sons and daughterss) start a killing spree at their embassy or Christians world wide shed blood?

oradee:

Hate? did u say hate?
and which religion is trying to convert Nigeria to their mode of worship?
and has even gone to the point of shedding blood?
The proverb of a log in one's eye is truly true...

AMvanquish: Come clean! Which religion is that?

i donno...pls tell us what religion Boko Haram is forcing upon Nigerians?

greateros: Islam! bloody bloody, bloody religion!

Always searching for the slightest excuse to shed blood! their taste for blood surpasses that of a vampire!

the so-called poorly scripted amateurish movie looks more like what someone put up with the sole aim of being mischievous. its obviously not a Hollywood production, the actors are so amateurish, none of the faces are on any Hollywood films nor have any of them been seen by any actor in Hollywood. The filming is sooo amateurish that every right thinking person will see it for what it is - TRASH!

Even the so-called producer is not known to have produced any movie in recorded history!

Putting into consideration the issue of how fast the movie was translated into Arabic, how are we sure this film was not made by Al-qaider or any of the numerous Muslim terrorist groups for the sole purpose of using it as a reason to attack the west

after all, every right thinking person knows how sensitive and volatile the Muslims are when it comes to matters concerning their religion [some part of the movie "2012" was edited out simply because the producers felt it will enrage the Muslims]!

I am scared of only two things - snakes and Muslims! i get so terrified and alert anytime i hear their call for prayers - it always sound like a call to arms!

Dang..i didnt mean to laugh but I just had to LMFAO..

AMvanquish: I can undastand why so much of you hate muslims and islam. You sit behind your computers and spit so much hate. If you really hate it, why not go out piblicly and express how you really feel instead of spewing it here. im sure in your daily interactions most of you come across muslims, please next time you meet them; express how you really feel. I dont support violence of any sort but why should a numb skull put out such an insensitive video. If jesus christ was potrayed in such manner which has never been done would you all keep quite. Salman rushdie wrote a book like that in the 1990's, the danish newspaper editor took his share too, terry jones almost nicked it too, and now this. Extremists would always look for scape goats to vent their anger on, can you blame them. As long as the rubbish videos and hate acts keep coming, these extremists would retaliate on what or whoever they can lay their hands on. its unfortunate how a significant few can give billions of believers a bad name. I know my faith well and my beloved prophet had so much prosecution in his time, all this hate for muslims is childs play compared to what he went through in his time. So please keep on expressing the hate and hypocripsy. Well, its behind a computer. Who cares

Hate? did u say hate?
and which religion is trying to convert Nigeria to their mode of worship?
and has even gone to the point of shedding blood?
The proverb of a log in one's eye is truly true...

Leemak: .....e b like say u can reason to some xtent apart from other unreasonable christians here, pls can u tell me d reason y international christian organisations condemned d film? is because they vehemently know dt dis Jews want to cause trouble between muslims and christians...ok, let me ask u dis again, how many Jews are living in all these Arab countries? pls find answer to dis and continue to reason in a reasonable manners, im not saying as a muslim i want u to defend me but i want u to look at dt situation objectively.

International Christian Organisations have and wld condemn the movie cos no one permits slander and they want the public to know they have no hand in the movies production whatsoever.
Now has any international Muslim organisation (including those on NL) condemned the killing or are they still justifying it?

Kay-Dee:
[size=13pt] He's been reported to be Jewish-Christian or Arab-Christian, but it doesn't really matter if he is atheistic or belongs to any other religion. People should learn not mock other people's religion and beliefs or at least leave them in peace. The movie was produced and being promoted in the US and hence the attacks on the American embassies. He knew what the reaction of the Muslim world would be and he was just being plain stu.pid. Now he's hiding in a hole, probably sipping champagne down there and innocent people have to pay the price for his foolishness and insensitivity. [/size]

so if i get my hands on the movie,i shld expect to get killed for watching it? and the marketers and importers shld be killed too?

Azumy: sincerely i respect ur personality pple lyk u r rear!

Your funny o...did ur blood boil when Boko haram killed innocent lives in Nigeria (both Christians and other wise)?

Your defending ur "muslim brothers' and ur 'religion" cos done internationally?

Its obvious from the history of this thread that any killing done by a Muslim is Right and the victim being killed is wrong..

Murphy T: but choice of religion is optional, no one shud be compel to worship in a particular place...everybody is free to worship where eva the so wish.

...i was gonna put up that pix but u beat me to it.

Anyhoo...for those condemning "Christians" for the movie they made in disrespecting their religion in Lybia, are ur Boko Haram brothers respecting the Christian Faith?
Dont come on to a public forum and justify wrong cos u really do sound sick in the head..

Leemak: @ all Islam haters: d truth is very bitter particularly for u dis slowpoke nigerian christians, look until there is respect for every religion from other religions dt d world will gain peace...even d heads of abroad christian organisations outrightly reject and condemned d film, u dis murafucker christian here in nigeria are just vomitting rubbish, go to Arab countries and protest.....'Islam our pride, their fear'

Christians condemn the film but was the film produced by a[b] Christian[/b]? and have the muslims behind their laptops and phones comdemned the killing?

look eh,islamic killings cannot be justified ok, whether its bone by Boko boys in Nigeria or done internationally.

@espn

u ppl must be so stupid..never pragmatic wif d way u do fins..d ? Is why d film abt islam in d 1st place.nd why must dey show it in an islamic country..

Dude read well jor, since when did america become an islamic country. This film was made for americans. Nobody begged u to watch it or translate it to arabic talkless of promoting it there.

am nt sure u ppl fink..u guyz r just devils..luv trouble..dis common sense here apply it..wif ur so called stupid religion dat won't make u idiots fink!I hate u all..fucking religion..it has no meaning..useless nd blind leaders nd followers..better go nd stick to ur fucking nd adultrated bible dat has countless versions!

First of all, u speak like a frustrated and insecure MOOSElim.
I don't patronise any of the two religions but if i had to pick one, it would definitely be christianity.
Even when i was a child, i saw no sense in your book. Just a pirated version of the bible.

Thank you...
The Biafra War movie is coming out soon and its being filmed in Nig but some Hollywood actors. All of u who get sensitive and sore when they mention our civil war shld pls bring out ur daggers and do the needful ok. Its not only "religion" u shld fight and die for.
After all, as someone said,ur really not recognised as a "black muslim'

shymexx: .....and do the thousands of Libyans who died from Nato bombs also deserve to die??

Let me take you back to last year; I saw a video of thousands of black Libyan men from Tawergha in a convoy, heading towards Misrata to defend their city - but what happened?? NATO bombed every single one of them from the sky - and Islamists from Misrata cleansed their city - men, women, and children were massacred for being black, under NATO's supervision... Today, Tawergha(a city of 20,000 black Libyans) is a ghost town...

Like seriously?..Is NATO now a christian agency?
Why didnt Lybian citizens fight NATO back for bombing them?
Do not derail from the topic...lemme ask,do u support or condemn the killing?

sharp man: The annoying thing is that a lot moslems have not condemned the killing of the American ambassador and the others, they seem to be happy that he was killed. They have only been focusing on the movie.

What of those that were killed innocently?

Clearly, the devil resides in some of these people.

The same way they have not condemned the actions of BH..was there any movie to incite all their bombings? (xmas bombing,Un building..etc)

all these comments are pointless and hypocritical if no islamist in this thread condemns the killing.

COOLDUN: Which leader? Which religion? My friend shut up your mouth; it is only the deads that fight for the dead. A living man fights for a living man. True God fights for himself, while dead gods is the one very weak to fight for himself. And that is why it asks the living dead men to fight for it. Go to the Arab dominated muslim countries and tell them that you are a black muslim. To the arab mulims , all of you the black muslims are not recognized nor regarded. You are a KALUSH, go and ask the arabs about the meaning. To them you are as worthless as KHALUF. Look for a way when the sun is shining, not in the night. muslims you are the problem in this sweet world. Take it or leave it.

For real? *Ouch..

kunle.t.ade:
Why on earth would a producer portray our leader as gay and u expect us to keep quiet maybe the other religion will because they are not sure of their religion if it ever exist.

Well,lemme ask u.."Is ur leader gay?"
If No..Ok
If yes..Ok
if i dont know..ok
wld any of the above answers make u wanna be gay?

kheart: and when ll u people (xtians) stick ur insults to jesus alone (whom u claim to be ur god).

So,in all ur years pf getting education,exposure and enlightenmemt under the sun,moon and stars, Islam and Christianity are the only two religions u know?
so if im not a muslim,im automatically a christian?
Any movie done to slander Mohammed is always done by a christian and no other religion (even if its an atheist, pagan or traditional worshiper)?..we really have a long way to go..*smh*

'Innocence of Muslims' is a 2012 independent religious and political film.

The low-quality film was produced and directed by Sam Bacile, a 56 year-old real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew.

According to Bacile, he produced the film to call attention to what he called the "hypocrisies" of Islam and it was screened in full just once, to a mostly empty movie theater in Hollywood.

Didnt the dude claim to be an isreali-jew? whats their own wif America?

Im sure those who attack their embassey are those who have been rejected visa times without number...

SimonAndal: No wonder Enugu is being overrun by Asians. I went into the town yesterday and there was 1 Asian for every 10 Nigerians.

lols...the govt did quote in his first campaign that he's gonna turn the place to "obodo-oyino' (so he's definitely fulfilling a campaign promise)

klax: Well either Abati was right was right or wrong, lie or said the truth the fact is GEJ is back to Nigeria to carry on his official duties case close.

As per the rumour about his wife health only God can tell but I as a person I wish the woman speedy recovery. And anyone who has hand in this shameful act of food poisioning should know the law of nemesis still exist hate someone does not mean death for that person.

The most shocking and embarrassing thing of all a diplomt from that same country where Gej wife contacted food poising was telling my dad just last night that why did African think this way and my dad asked why he said how can a wife of a whole president contact food poisin and nothing like investigation on how it happen no diplomatic logjam but Nigerians are busy about abusing the president, Nigerians are busy asking where is your wife Gej , Nigerians are busy calling Gej names he said if this happens to ordinary secretary of thier any of thier prince in that kingdom he said they will fight it out to logical end, seriously to be frank I was shocked myself and he said your people stand on hating Gej but ridiculing themselves more and this is the truth.

I have be following this thread for a while I hardly seen anyone that even ask who poisin her and how did he contacted poising everyone where busy calling manes and abusing even some are rejoicing she is dead Nigerians why are we so brutally heartless this is so sad, so shameful indeed let us not forget that same country where this woman was poisin is the Haven for all Gej enermies.

But,according to "ThelastPose", how do u investigate a crime that hasnt been admitted to have been committed?
An investigation wld truly mean yes,she was poisoned,ill and admitted and as long as Abati or the presidency (not president) claim she is allegedly ill,who do u blame?
bad news hurt but they same some truth is bitter too...
I wish her speedy recovery if at all she is ill and i believe i have a right to ask "Where is the First Lady"?

thelastPope: So even if she is sick, the president should do a 7 o'clock live broadcast and after playing the national anthem, he should now tell you that Dame has developed cancer of the teeth! Then you will be happy abi? Because he has now admitted the truth. Afterall, anybody can be sick. Hear yourself! Little minds discuss people. Go figure!

well Channels,CNN,Aljahzera discusses people,places,events etc...u go figure that out.

GEJ doesnt have to announce on air her state of health but the spokesman for either him or his wife shldnt act shady like they r hiding something.

No one wishes her bad,but u coming here to say people are witches makes u sound sick in the head.

if ur having a discussion wif international students and they ask u "Sir,pls where is the first lady"? wld u say 'Oyinbo witches have stared again o...the one for Naija neva do?"

thelastPope: Now you have exposed your final stup1d1ty!!! All the nonsense you and your gang have been posting for days now is prayer abi? That is how your pastor or imam taught you how to pray abi? All the evil wishes you and your coven members have been spewing around is prayer abi? Is that how you people pray over there on the iroko tree? Nonsense!

With a name like "thelastPole", u have alot of venom and bitterness in ur guts.(and thats not good)
as u rightly said,i wld pray for her but it is for her speedy recovery cos like i said,in every rumor,theres an atom of truth.

thelastPope: Right now, cows have more sense than most of you posting here. Look at the level of hate and bitterness. Look at the witchcraft on display! And you will go to church or mosque to pray after this. Why are you expecting evil on Dame? Does it give you some sort of closure or what? Or does it satisfy your vampire thirst? Witch!

is falling sick an evil thing? if ur village people have caused u so much hurt,i'm sorry but dont let it affect ur sense of reasoning.
Dr's grsduaate yearly from Uni's round the world because being sick is part of human existence.

if uve never fallen sick in ur entire life, good for u but millions out there do and its not n evil thing ok.

in every romour,theres an atom of truth and i as a nigerian wld pray for the health of our first lady even if shes not the president (and i advice u to do the same ok)