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Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Actually Believe In The Existence Of Witches And Wizards? by OtemAtum: 3:23pm On May 29, 2017
divide9ja:
give us evidence that Jesus abused ladies.

here is proof that Mohamed abused babies

Bukhari (6:298)
Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and handle her.

Please give us evidence Jesus abused kids the way mohammed did. grin
Even ladies lets see. grin
DOCTUFOS: Batimeus 10:6-8

6. Now many of the homofal(ladies) began to visit Yeshu, even when everyone was away to speak about him. And only I, being at the gate, saw how the homofal come in to him and go out. 7. Now when three homofal(ladies) went in with Yeshu and did not come out for many hours. I went in to spy at them. And I saw that which made my eyes heavy. 8. And I said, truly Rhoda has not been wrong. And I went the opposite way, into the room where Yeshu did keep all his things.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum:
Chapter Nineteen
1. Now while we began to go towards Anpa, I saw one like Tomashi. And I said to Ikani, let us follow after him, for I perceive that he is heading towards the place where Salami stays. Now we followed from behind until he had entered a house made with clay.
2. And I went to the window of the house and peeped in. Then I saw Salami whose birth name was Ozovehe. And he was very old. And a young child of my age sat beside him to blow him air.
3. And he said, Tomashi, what have you brought to me this time. For I know that this shall be our last meeting upon the earth. For my soul shall soon pass away. And Tomashi said, one came from Anpa, saying that he seek after you.
4. And Salami said, is he from the lineage of Mona whom I told you about? And Tomashi said, you have spoken the truth exactly. For he said that his name is Atuluku the son of Ufedo.
5. Now Salami said, I do not know why that family refuse to leave my family alone. For they say that by all means we must return to the tradition of this land which is the tradition of the devil.
6. Now why did you let him go free when he came to you? And Tomashi said, I did not let him go free, for I went to inform his tribesmen whose clan are different. For I know how the two clans hate one another.
7. And they went to the place where he lodged and burnt him there. And there is not even a trace of his bone, for he and the lady who protected him were burnt to ashes.
8. Now Salami said, this is good, for they shall not seek after us anymore. For they who disturb my family are now dead. And Salami said, I can now rest in peace to join my ancestors.
9. Now when I heard all these, I said to Ikani, let us depart, for it is time to go. And I took Ikani to Anpa. And when she greeted my mother, her tongue was different. And my mother said, why do you bring our enemy to the house?
10. And I said, she is my friend and not an enemy. For she saved my life from the hands of her tribepeople . And I have brought her to stay with us forever. For her abode have been burnt down.
11. Now my mother said, you cannot bring an evil blood under our roof. And Ikani wept and began to depart. And I went after her and brought her back, saying, we cannot go separate ways. For I shall not only take care of you, but we shall be husband and wife.
12. And she said, your mother shall not accept this. And I said, we speak the same language and we have the same culture, how then can we not be together? For even the homos of Igala and the homo of Ebir who speak different languages relate with each other sometimes.
13. And the homos of Oduduwa were very friendly with everyone of us when we went to their land to dwell, how much more we who are of the same language? Now mother, choose between me and nobody to be with you.
14. For if you reject her, you have rejected me, because we are already husband and wife as we speak.
15. Now mother accepted eventually. And I became the husband of Ikani. Now I did not return to check Salami again, saying, I shall wait until he is dead. And I shall visit his son Faruk.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 3:19pm On May 29, 2017
Chapter Eighteen
1. I was just six years of age when Ufedo my father died. And he had said, Atuluku my son, do not forget to check upon the lineage of Adeiza whose story I have told you. Do so when you have become of age.
2. And you shall remind them to be conscious of the great god who shall be born through them. For if they are not conscious of it, the god himself could be born and die without knowing himself as a god.
3. For many have come to the earth without knowing that they came to the world for a very great mission. Therefore let them know that the god who shall set Aferk free from mind slavery shall be born through them.
4. Now twelve years after, I Atuluku, being the only son of my father and the last child, did say to my mother who was very aged, I shall go to Okerune to the descendant of Adeiza. And I shall tell them to be watchful for the coming of the god of truth, who shall reveal all the histories which are passed orally.
5. For he shall take his time to write down every oral tradition. For written words last longer than spoken words. For by written words did Makka and Juda make their gods immortal upon the earth, even when these gods are already absent here.
6. Now Adugo my mother said, go my child and our ancestors shall guard you such that no evil shall happen to you. Remember also not to argue with Ozovehe if he is still alive, for he is desperate to the end.
7. Now I departed to Okerune. And when I got to the family house of Agidi, it was possessed by other family. And the name of the family was Tomashi. And the head of the family said to me, Salami is still alive and he has only one child. But he has departed this place.
8. For he said to us, I know that they shall come from Anpa to seek after my child. And they shall talk to him to change his mind, thereby converting him back to the traditional religion of the land. Therefore let them come and they shall not find me.
9. Now when I heard it, I asked, saying, where did he go? And Tomashi said, why should I tell you? For he has ordered me not to say anything and I shall obey him. For he gave me this place for free and I shall honour him for it.
10. Now I said to Tomashi, give me palm wine, for my throat is dry and I have planned to stay here till tomorrow. And Tomashi refused, saying, it is not demons or agents of demons that we are told to welcome to our homes, but angels only.
11. For you work against the religion of God, therefore you are a demon. And I said, I do not work against the religion of God, for even God himself has no religion which we could call his own.
12. For the purpose of ensuring a more secure passage for the god of true scrolls and histories did I come. For through his revelation shall a little knowledge of the true God be known. Therefore I beg you, give me either water or wine, for I am greatly thirsty.
13. Now Tomashi continued to refuse me water and wine. And he sent two of his people after me to carry me and throw me away. Now while I lay in the bushpath where they had cast me to, a damsel passed by. And when she saw the tribal mark on my cheeks, she greeted me in my language.
14. And I spoke with her. And she said to me, what are you doing here? And I told her, saying, I was rejected by the people whom I came here to visit. And I am now very hungry. And she said to me, let me take you to my house.
15. And I shall feed you and give you water also.
16. Now when I was in her house, she gave me water and set the food before me. And I ate and my strength returned. And she said to me, you are such a young homo. Why do you come to our town without anyone to protect you?
17. And I narrated everything to her. And she said that her name was Ikani. And I told her my name also. And Ikani gave me cloth to wear. And she said, my father Okolo and my mother Ajifa died when I was very young in Ida. And I felt insecure.
18. For some of the people of our land said that they were the ones who killed my father and mother. And they promised that they would kill me also if I did not leave our village. And I journeyed by foot to this place. And here have I been for three years.
19. Now I did not want to leave Ikani to herself, for she had found a solace in me and I have begun to love her. But my clan and her clan often fight, though we have the same language.
20. Now while I was with her, some homos discovered that I was there. And they came to her, saying, bring that homo from Anpa and let us kill him. And she said, did he do any harm to you?
21. And they said, our people and his people are enemies, so we shall not let him see the sunlight. And Ikani said, killing him is not a solution. But the solution is that you should go and tell you people and his people that there should be unity with themselves.
22. For if there is no unity among them, how can the land of Kougi as a whole be a great land? For ethnicity brings nothing but division and poverty. And it is the cause of backwardness.
23. Now the homos refused, saying, bring him to us so that we could kill him. And Ikani said, wait and I shall bring him to you. And she entered in and came out with a very sharp cutlass. And she brought it upon the shoulder of one of the attackers. And the rest of them fled.
24. And he who was injured groaned very much. And blood flowed greatly. And Ikani dropped the cutlass and went in to bring balm and ointment and aro. And she treated him until the blood had stopped.
25. And she said, how did you feel when the cutlass came upon your shoulder? Now depart and do not return, for if you return, surely you shall not have your life in you anymore.
26. And the homo returned, groaning.
27. Now when I came out to her, she said, let us flee for they shall soon be back in multitude. And they shall burn us down. For they shall not spare us.
28. And we quickly prepared to flee the place. Now while we had reached to the rocky sides East of the place, we saw a multitude like two hundred. And they surrounded the house. And they set fire upon it and ran around it with joy. For they thought that we have been burnt in it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christians,we Get Problem by OtemAtum: 2:06pm On May 29, 2017
Christians are the fastest to refer to others as f*ols, stewpid, etc. I don't blame them, since their Christ also dedicated a whole chapter of the evil book bible to curse the scribes and Pharisees.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Opinion: Do You Think King Pharoah Will Go To Hell? by OtemAtum: 1:50pm On May 29, 2017
Oluwamuyeewa:
I swear religion is so confusing...they say God planned everything we say or do and when we do something wrong they say he'll punish us for it when he is the one who programmed us to do it....

And why can't God just kill/condemn/wipe away all sinners after the judgement day instead of storing them in a fire somewhere when he doesn't have any use for them anymore ?

So I have this question for the Bible scholars in here,
Where will all the people living and who have lived go to when they die before the white men brought Christianity to Nigeria?
DOCTUFOS: DOCTUFOS:
1. Now I Omokwo have five children. And the names of my children were Ajanigo, Alolo, Ufedo, Ariga and Ebo.
2. Now before my face, four of my five children changed to the religion of the foreigners. For when they went to the school of the foreigners to learn, they were taught their religion, saying, after death shall be heaven and fire only.
3. And those who believe in Zeusus shall go to heaven while they who do not believe in him shall go to the fire to be there forever. Now I called my children and said to them, where do you think that your distant great grandfather Mona shall be now as we speak?
4. And they said, he shall be in the fire because he did not know Zeusus in his days.
5. And I said, why should he go to the fire because he did not know Zeusus? Does he have any fault for not knowing Zeusus? For in his days, Issa was he whom they told him about. And they did not even say that Issa died for the world. But he did not believe all their stories because there are greater stories here also which we pass from mouth to mouth to our children and grandchildren.
6. Now Alolo said to me, father, we do not wish that our ancestors should go to the fire, but the reality is that they shall be there forever. And Omokwo said, you children are making me laugh. For it is as if you are drunken with emu.
7. Now Ariga said, it is not an excuse that they do not believe in God while they were alive. And they shall by now be wailing in the fire. For they shall not be forgiven, no matter how they now plead for mercy. For there is no mercy in the fire of God.
8. Now Ufedo, being the last child of the family, who did not know much of the things which they spoke, was called apart by me. And I said to him, you are the youngest of my children, but I have made you greater than your four elder brothers.
9. And you alone have I accepted as my only child. And you are my first and last born. And all the things which I have are yours. And only through you should anyone come to me. Now have the key to my room.
10. Now Ufedo was very glad. And when his brothers sought after their father for food, he said to them, you are not worthy to be seen in my presence. Go and see Ufedo your little brother and accept him as your Lord and master. And if you do not accept him as such, you shall see my wrath.
11. For I have put in his charge all powers of this house. And through him alone can you be reconciled with me.
12. Now when the children of Omokwo went to Ufedo that he should give them the key to the storehouse so that they might take food and other things which belonged to the father, he said to them, call me Lord.
13. And they took him and beat him up in anger.
14. Now when Omokwo heard how they had maltreated his only acceptable son, he went after them and caught them. And he beat them with the rod and locked them up, saying, you shall be in that room forever. And I shall neither give you food or water.
15. Now the children of Omokwo thought that it was only a joke. And they cried out for help for three days, for they were very hungry. And Ufedo entered into the locked room after three days. And they said, now we have accepted you as the firstborn and even the only son of our father.
16. Now give us food and water to drink.
17. And Ufedo said, it is too late to do so. For the time when this was possible has long past. And there is no forgiveness for you.
18. Now at that time, Adeiza the grandson of Omini came from Okerune to see Omokwo. And he said, Omokwo the great one, I have come to do to you what Mona your ancestor did to Agidi my own ancestor. For in those days, Mona came even on foot to see Agidi my ancestor.
19. Now I have deemed it fit to come to see you in this place and share with you some experiences which are disturbing my minds. For even now, I have lost hope of the coming of anything or any god called Otem.
20. For rather than a saviour of our land from the religions of the foreigners, what we have is the massive conversion of our children to those foreign religions while they burn our own objects of meditation, calling them the objects of the devil.
21. Now I think there is no hope anymore. For even as I speak, my children have become Ishlamites. And they touched the ground with their foreheads to worship that which they call Alla.
22. Now I Omokwo said, I know that you Adeiza are an influential homo in Okerune and around. And you have much fame. And if you say that there is no hope, who am I to say that there is?
23. For even my own children are now Krishtenis and they see me as a demon and a devil now. And they say that my ancestors their ancestors are burning now in the fire. And they say that if I do not believe the story of that Zeusus who died in the land where I did not know about, then I shall be cast into fire when I die.
24. Now Adeiza said, let them come here so that I may talk to them so that they might change. For it is for the purpose of taking you to Okerune to talk with my own children have I also come.
25. Now let our hands help one another.
26. Now I said to Adeiza, I cannot bring those children to you here, for they are locked up in the room as a punishment for their wickedness. And they shall remain in that place forever.
27. When Adeiza could not persuade me to release them, I said to him, follow me. And he followed me to the place where my children lay. And Ufedo followed us also. And when we were in the place, we coughed greatly because of the ground pepper I had sprinkled there.
28. And Adeiza said, for how many days have you kept them here without feeding them? And I said, for three days. And Adeiza said, you are the most wicked being I have ever seen.
29. For what offence could have been so great committed against you to warrant starvation of your our creatures which you gave life to?
30. Now while Adeiza spoke, they groaned in pain and said, let us accept Ufedo as our lord now. Let him be everything and anything you have made him to be, but take us out of this hot room and feed us. For you are our father.
31. And I said, no, for it is not my principle to let you out forever. And Adeiza said to me, you are mad, Omokwo. Shall we chase a bad child to the tiger to prey upon?
32. Now set them free or else I shall set them free myself and go apart from you forever.
33. Now when Adeiza said this, I wept. And my children wondered why I wept. And I said, it is only the third day, but I cannot withstand the suffering I put my children to anymore.
34. How then shall there be a god who shall cast his homo in the fire forever without feeding them or forgiving them. Behold I say, such god should be given a chieftancy title in the kingdom of the monsters. For it is not possible for a father to subject his children to starvation and confinement for petty things done, let alone leaving them in a fire forever.
35. Therefore Ajanigo, Alolo, Ebo and Ariga, go and think about that idea of a fire burning your ancestors forever and relate it with the experience you have had here today.
36. For I tell you the truth, whoever makes an afterlife of fire for humanity is a devil and his rivals and superiors who are better than him shall not allow such kind of fire to remain burning. For even as Adeiza forced me to end this punishment, so shall the higher beings who are wise stop whoever that being is who made an eternal fire as a place to be after death.
37. For foolishness is the portion of Yahweh if indeed he ever nursed such kind of afterlife in his mind, let alone making it real. Therefore my children, forgive me for subjecting you through these three days of fasting and heat. For this I do to save you and your future from becoming useless to yourself by wasting your time worshipping a god who is a terrorist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nana Poku 'Heals' Woman With A Kiss In South Africa (Video) by OtemAtum: 1:47pm On May 29, 2017
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folu4real:
His healing power is inside his mouth. God pls safe us from this new generation so called pastor
Hosea of the Bible did worse than d pastor. He slept with a prostitute and said that yahweh commanded him to do so.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 10:33pm On May 28, 2017
Chapter Seventeen
1. Now there was a fresh war against the tradition of our land. And the foreigners struck with a fierce battle. And they took many of us captive. And the names of the Warriors of our land which they took captive were Ugbede, who was a famous blacksmith. And the name of his father was Ajifa.
2. And Ojochenemi was also taken. And he was a great hunter who have killed more than two amotekwu. And Otigba was also taken as well as Idoko. And Obaje was taken also.
3. And Otini and Ojimojo and Ogwuche and Udale and Omaji and Epuna and Adejonu and Ulu.
4. And they conquered us yet again because our land was divided against itself while the foreigners were United. And they even have the support of many of the chiefs and rulers of the land who benefited from them.
5. Now many of the men and women which they captured were forced to change their names into the names of the homos written in the books which they carried with them.
6. And we began to have names such as Ayeshia and Sadatu and Shiaka and many other names which the foreigners bear themselves.
7. Now many of the traditional things were taken by the foreigners. And they said of our pots and our artworks that they attract demons. And they said also of our paintings that they attract dangerous monsters and demons. And they took from us much ancient things, saying, we shall go and cast them into the depth of the sea, for they are not good for you.
8. And they said to us, learn the chants in the holy book. And they forced both young and old to learn the things which were written in their language. And by force did many children learn them.
9. And whoever was slow to learn was killed immediately. And I wept bitterly, seeing all these things. And I went and lay still to imagine the kind of future I want for my land. For I have heard that well-imagined wishes of today are the fulfilled prophecy of thousands of years after.
10. And I said, let the time come when the foreigners shall depart our land. Let the time come when the leaders of our land shall be chosen by the people of the land rather than for the foreigners to choose them for us.
11. Let the time come when great inventions shall be made by the homos of our land too. And let the homos of the far future be more intelligent than us.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can A Doctor Believe He Saw D Ghost Of A Patient? Religion Has Killed Naija! by OtemAtum: 10:25pm On May 28, 2017
Ghosts, the gods, afterlives, aliens, other beings= real
Demons, Satan as an entity killing humans = unreal

Ghosts are just the spirits of the dead. They can't do anything more than appearing and disappearing, but on another level of consciousness. They can't haunt a house, they can't kill anyone. If they threaten and you don't shake at their threats, nothing can happen to you.

Demons= Nah, nah, there is nothing like that. They are the fakest thing ever. As fake as the lies told by Nigerian pastors. They don't exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kairo’s Embassy Church, Uyo Pastor's Wife Lied To Him (Photos) by OtemAtum: 10:19pm On May 28, 2017
Joagbaje:
Its Demons. Schizoprenia spirit . i know them.
Keep lying. Lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kairo’s Embassy Church, Uyo Pastor's Wife Lied To Him (Photos) by OtemAtum:
Joagbaje:
Proverbs 13:16
16 Every prudent man deals with knowledge, but a [self-confident] fool exposes and flaunts his folly.

Proverbs 10:23
It is as sport to a fool to do mischief:
but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
Luwabi 3:11-14
11. Be wise as the Ifa and be knowledgeable as the gods. 12. For wise people are like the Iroko tree. They are unmoved by the display of the wisdom of others. 13. But the foolish ones will be swept off their feet by the display of the craftiness of others . 14. If you leave the gift of nature in you undeveloped, another homo shall develop his own gift of nature upon yourself.
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Receives Scroll Of Covenant From Jewish Community In Africa. Photos by OtemAtum: 7:33pm On May 28, 2017
HungerBAD:
The Covenant was handed to him like Moses and Joshua.

These Jokers insult those we hold very dear in the Bible,by even mentioning the name of this fraud near Moses and Joshua.

Moses and Joshua were not caught with TWO PROSTITUTES at once in an Hotel Room.

The Jewish community that visited this fraud must be a fraud too.
Which Jewish community isn't a fraud before? Even their ancestors and their god are all fraud.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op):
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op):
Christianity Etc › Re: My Pastor Ordered Me Out Of The Church During Sunday Service by OtemAtum: 7:23pm On May 28, 2017
9jakohai:
Ah, but the chap tomorrow would want to be elder for a church.(Oh yes...he would!)

When he hasn't learned how to follow...how can he be an effective elder.?

People who become leaders without learning how to follow become tyrants. Sorry...but it is true.

Anyway...your issue is with the concept of Pastor and Church...that is another story.
did the chap say that he wants to be a pastor in the future? And must you do some things which if your parents try to enforce on you, you give them reason not to, only to do it when a pastor tells you to?

for example, if you are mature enough and your parents demand a particular hairstyle from you different from the one you have on, we give them reasons and they accept, only for a pastor somewhere to tell you to do this or that.

A leader should not enforce some culture on the followers, else he is not a good leader. It's pastor they call you, not a soldier.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Categories Of People That Will Never Fall During Anointing by OtemAtum: 6:56pm On May 28, 2017
tosyne2much:
Well, you have a very good point here.. The only thing I'm not cool with is the fact that God hides Himself and watches people doubt His existence. It would make a lot of sense if God reveal Himself to the world once in a buemoon.

Even as a true Christian, sometimes I ask myself, what does God stand to gain by hiding Himself and watch people doubt His existence without revealing Himself to them, when He knows that eternity torment awaits these people
God didn't hide himself outside you and me. Rather, he hides himself inside us. Look inward for God, not in the sky because he is more concentrated in us than in the sky.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Pastor Ordered Me Out Of The Church During Sunday Service by OtemAtum: 6:52pm On May 28, 2017
9jakohai:
Well....there is a simple lesson to be learned ...and that is humility.

The Pastor asked him to tuck in his shirt. Not to go and kill someone, not to go and burn down someone's house...but to tuck in his shirt.

Or would you be pleased if someone in a social group you led refused to obey your orders?

Would tucking in his shirt have caused a major disaster that would have wiped out half of earth'spopulaiton?

The guy was asked to tuck in his shirt. And the way he behaved...if he behaves like that in church, he will behave like that at work someday. And then he would be in big trobule.

When you were in school...you had uniform codes. That was there to 1) prepare you for the world of tomorrow where you have to wear uniforms, like in factories, labs, courtrooms, police, etc...2) to prepare you for the fact that you are going to be under authority...and you may have to learn how to follow.

One Soviet naval officer once wrote about his experiences in Naval officer training school 'We were to be the future of the Soviet Navy, the leaders of the fleet. But before we led., we had to learn how to follow.'

We had to learn how to follow.

If you do not know how to follow...you won't be a good leader. Sorry...you can call me sheeple ....but you have to learn to be small,before you can become big.
My point isn't that the pastor was wrong by telling him to tuck in, but my point is that a pastor should not be compared with a boss. A boss in a workplace has something more meaningful to offer. Pastors are many, but employment opportunity is scarce. He is neither wrong nor right by rejecting the command of the pastor. You can't force everybody to do something they don't like doing, or can you?
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Categories Of People That Will Never Fall During Anointing by OtemAtum: 6:41pm On May 28, 2017
tosyne2much:
May God reveal His existence to you before circumstances force you to believe He exists.. That's all I will say cheesy
which of the gods are you talking about? Try to be specific because many of the gods are backing me up in the things I do and the steps I take. And FYI, God Almighty who created my god Atum, your own god Yahweh, the Muslim god Allah, the yoruba god Olorun and all the other gods do not need to make humans believe in his existence. If he wants you to believe in his existence, he would speak in a audible voice to all the creatures in the universe at once for us to hear. However, my god Atum did write a little about God the HIGHEST CONSCIOUSNESS in the Book of Truth called the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH revealed to me. Check it out. https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Categories Of People That Will Never Fall During Anointing by OtemAtum: 5:52pm On May 28, 2017
tosyne2much:
Hehehe.. All these guys sha cheesy
Yes, even babalawo(herbalists) know how to use this same psychology. When they come with a cowry to touch the head of their customer, such customer thinks that some spiritual forces would come, then he or she faints even before the cowry touches his head. That is what makes them believe the herbalist afterwards, but he might just be scamming them as the modern herbalists(pastors) do in church too.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Pastor Ordered Me Out Of The Church During Sunday Service by OtemAtum: 5:49pm On May 28, 2017
9jakohai:
What?

If your boss told you to tuck in, will you resign your job?

For this recession?

Abeg...tucking in a shirt won't cause the sun to go supernova.
sheeple spotted
Abeg your boss or your pastor, which one is doing you more good.
I'll say it's your boss for paying you salary.
Your pastor is bad for collecting part of your salary as tithe and offering while offering you want you already know.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Pastor Ordered Me Out Of The Church During Sunday Service by OtemAtum: 5:45pm On May 28, 2017
stanley99a:
@Op, leaving the church angrily because you were scolded or ordered to go tuck in your shirt by your pastor is very wrong I must tell you. My questions to you..

1. Will you leave your job for another because you were scolded by your boss in front of your colleagues?

2. Will you forfeit your admission and rewrite another jamb because your lecturer scolded you in the presence of your classmates for not dressing properly to class? ( Law students know what I mean)

3. Do you benefit from the teachings your pastor share from the pulpit? If yes, why angry that you where corrected by your own pastor.

I'll will put it to you with due respect OP that it was pride that made you leave the church angrily that faithful day because you were instructed to go out and tuck in your shirt.

I am sure that you weren't the only member in church that did not tuck in to church that day. Why you? Think about it

My word for you op, please go back to the church and apologize to your pastor if truly it's just what you narrated here that made you leave. Remember prov 4:6
You never know how far your talent can take you. Humility is key to success in life
Job or Pastor, which one is better? Admission or pastor, which one is more important? Pls don't compare having a job with leaving a pastor. Job are scare these days but pastors are everywhere. At the OP, you have made the right choice.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Categories Of People That Will Never Fall During Anointing by OtemAtum: 5:34pm On May 28, 2017
tosyne2much:
Brother, that's not true.. Are you trying to say that all those that fall under the anointing are only under the reflex of fatigue or excess emotions? undecided
The majority fell due to excess emotion, some just want to fall so that they won't be termed witches or wizards.
Mind you, emotion could be fear, feeling of joy, etc. There is nothing like Anointing, all we have is psychology.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op): 5:31pm On May 28, 2017
realmindz:
I love this, but people like analice107 and Kingebukasblog will find a way to defend this evil doctrine
As always. They keep loving their monster-god and they would defend his nonsensical philosophy no matter how senseless it is.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Categories Of People That Will Never Fall During Anointing by OtemAtum: 5:28pm On May 28, 2017
oodua1stson:
Who doesn't know this falling thing is a joke from believers.




You can fall under anointing the same way fans fall to the ground when they see Michael Jackson.




It has nothing to do with a non existing God




Thank you
Thanks for this. It's excess emotion that makes them fall but they don't know it. The emotion that makes you she'd tears when watching some movies sometimes can as well make you fall while standing up in front of something or someone who touched you deep down. Urheme can come and learn.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 5:07pm On May 28, 2017
Chapter Sixteen
1. When I was at Okerune, I met Ozovehe, the son of Adeiza. And I said to him, from your lineage shall come Otem, the son of the gods of Aferk. For he has Olorun, Chuku, Abassi, Ogene, Nyame, Nzame, Atum and all the gods of Aferk ordained to bring Aferk out of mind slavery.
2. Now Ozovehe laughed greatly and said, it is not possible for such demon to come from my lineage. For I, being a great teacher of the laws of Ishmalik cannot allow a seed from my lineage leave this religion which I have embraced.
3. And I said to Ozovehe, hear now, for if it has been destined to happen, it cannot be reversed. For the same manner you changed your name from Ozovehe to Salami, so shall it occur that one of your seeds shall return to the base.
4. And he shall abandon the religion of the foreigners. And he shall give birth to this Otem. For I have seen the future in his star, which was the brightest of all stars that has ever lived.
5. And Ozovehe said, whoever is that descendant of mine who changes his name from the names of the Makkites to the names of our tradition shall not prosper. For I shall attack such and destroy him.
6. And I said to Ozovehe, the guardian angels of such seed of yours shall not allow you to harm him until his mission has been accomplished.
7. Now Ozovehe laughed and said, which mission do you talk about? For the lineage history which Agidi my distant great grandfather begun has been destroyed by me. And the leather of cowries has been shredded also. Now how shall such being get the history from?
8. How shall he know that he should give birth to any Otem?
9. And I said, it does not take a homo more than an overnight to know his mission on earth. For he who has a great mission shall discover such mission eventually, no matter how long.
10. Now you Ozovehe shall see it from your afterlife, and you shall not be able to do anything about it. For they who are in their afterlives cannot do anything to those who are on earth more than appearing to them with threats which if the one on earth is wise enough, he shall not abandon his mission because of such threats.
11. But he shall say, I do not mind dying to fulfill my mission on earth. For what should I fear death for when it is only a transition and not a total loss of consciousness.
12. Now you Ozovehe, hear and change your mentality. For the choice you have made in life shall not benefit you in the afterlife. For when you get to the afterlife, all your ancestors shall turn their back against you. And none of them shall associate with you until you have wept bitterly for your mistakes.
13. Now Ozovehe laughed and said, I am an Ishmalite, for through Ishmal the firstborn of Ebiloma did my ancestors come, but they did not know this. For GOD promised Ebiloma that all the generations of the world shall come out from him.
14. Now I said to Ozovehe, you are ignorant, for if a homo does not know his root, he shall accept stories here and there. But a time shall come when many nations shall know know their roots.
15. And they shall not go hear and there to foreign lands which they call holy lands. For there is no land called holy, neither is there any land called the land of God. For God who through the great bangs made all things do not have one spot in the universe greater or purer than the other.
16. But his children in their lack of omnipresence have built spots of worship for themselves such that they could see to the affairs of the homos from there. Now Ozovehe, I shall depart and now and I shall not set my eyes on you anymore until we meet in the afterlives if it is possible.
17. Now I departed the land of Okerune to my own land. And I asked my ancestors, saying, he through whom Otem shall come does not want it, how shall it then be possible?
Christianity Etc › Re: False prophet TB Joshua Caught Red Handed Editing His Prophecies!!! by OtemAtum: 4:36pm On May 28, 2017
Wilgrea7 come and see an example of content editing I was telling you about the other day.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 5:51am On May 28, 2017
Chapter Fifteen
1. After the death of Omokwo my father, I Ufedo took over from him in performing all his doing. For all my brothers are not interested in writing down the lineage history which Mona my distant great grandfather had begun.
2. For he wrote things down with symbols in his days. And as we began to know more, the manner of writing began to change. And I wrote down with feather and oil upon cottons.
3. Now some homos of our land had begun to ask for freedom from the foreigners. And they gathered together to ask for it. And they with other lands met to agree, saying, let all these foreigners depart our land.
4. And they went to all the traditional leaders and chiefs, saying, do not hear from the mouths of these foreigners anymore to rule the lands. For it is time that they should depart.
5. And the foreigners resisted and punished all they who spoke against them. And they imprisoned many homos;
6. From the land of Oduduwa to the land of Ofo did they imprison many homos who fought for freedom, because some of the chiefs and traditional rulers did continue to work for them.
7. Now a vision was shown to me, saying, there shall be independence indeed, but it shall be a lesser independence. For after the physical indepence of the whole continent of Aferk from their foreign masters, their minds shall continue to be ruled by the philosophies of the gods of the foreign lands.
8. And then shall Otem come to write the history of Aferk and of the world. For without one who shall write the true history, there can never be mind independence.
9. And Aferk shall know their position among their brothers. And the slavery mentality shall be destroyed, for all the gods who fight to hinder the restructuring of the brain codes of the homos of Aferk shall be put in spiritual prison.
10. Now Ufedo, it is time to check the stars more than before. For as soon as you see the star of Otem, you shall go and make it known to the lineage of Otem who are the descendants of Adeiza.
11. Now after about a month, I awoke suddenly in the midnight. And my mind told me to go and check the sky outside. And I went with the leather. And the sky was very bright and clear. For the stars shone greatly such that the moon was not visible.
12. And it was as though the moon has been made dark by the strength of the brightness of the stars.
13. And I saw the star of Otem. And when I have compared the pattern on the sky with the one on the leather, the star of Otem sped away. And I knelt down facing the sky and praising my ancestors, saying, blessed be our ancestors who have not forgotten the land.
14. And they have sent Otem to come to the earth as they have promised. And through him shall many in the world lose their fear of death and abandon bad religions.
15. And many shall avoid pilgrimages to other nations, saying, a great god was also born in Negre and Aferk, why then should we seek after foreign lands?
16. And Otem shall live in Negre, in the land of Oduduwa shall he be. For it has been promised to the god of that land, saying, Otem shall live upon your land.
17. And the pastors of Yahweh shall be known for whom they truly are in the days of Otem and after. For all their deceptions shall be made known. And all their secret affairs in sexual manners shall be declared often.
18. And many shall lose their grips on the religions of deception. And in the days of Otem and after shall many homos take up the lame, the blind, the deaf and dumb and they who have paralysis, saying, let us go for healing in the churches and in the muskhs. And if our own people which we take to their churches and muskhs cannot be cured, then shall we personally know that we have been lied to.
19. And we shall reject their religions and focus on the making of findings and inventions.
20. Now the time of Otem shall usher in the time of great thinkers upon the land of Negre and Aferk. For there shall be gathering of great thinkers. And religion shall be mocked. And no god of religion shall escape the mock from the mouths of they who are wiser.
21. And those who teach their children how to reason deep shall be happy, for their children shall achieve far better things than the children who are taught to take the gods as the Almighty God.
22. And the use of meditation shall be common among the people, rather than the use of noise.
23. Now after all these, I Ufedo went again to my bed. And the peace of mind which I experienced was great. And in the morning, I arose and began to go to Okerune to find how these shall be made known to those through whom Otem shall come.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 4:58am On May 28, 2017
Chapter Fourteen
1. Now after twelve years, Adajinege came to me with much teas. And I said, what is it Adajinege son of Adeiza? Is you father well? Is your mother well also? And Adajinege said, I have used my own hands to send my father to his grave.
2. Now when Adajinege said this, I was greatly afraid, for I did not know that Adeiza had died. And I asked him, what are you saying? And he said, my father had died two years ago.
3. Now I asked how it happened and Adajinege said, we stayed in the muskh after we left him. And the foreigners took care of us. And they fed us well, even more than our father could do.
4. And they taught us the ways of Alla. And I was fully immersed in the religion so much that I knew how to speak the language of the foreigners more than them. And I became even a teacher of the book myself.
5. And my father came every year to ask us to return home, but we did not hear him, because we were not missing anything while we abide with the foreigners.
6. Now about two years ago, when my father came again, the foreigners got hold of him and kept him in chains. And when I saw him, I said, you deserve to be chained, for you are an unbeliever.
7. And you are an enemy of Alla, therefore you do not deserve to live.
8. Now while we spoke, Salami my elder brother took a knife and pushed it into the belly of our father, saying, as long as you do not accept Alla, that is your portion. For the book have told us to fight the fight of Jiad.
9. Now when the foreigners saw this, they lifted him over their shoulders and sang great songs of praise for him. And he was very glad about it. And I was displeased, but I could not speak in the presence of the people, for they shall take me for an enemy of Alla.
10. Now while I slept, I felt the presence of my dead father. For I smelled him. And when I awoke from my dream, I felt guilty. And I began to lose my love for that religion.
11. And I sought how I shall take Asimi away and flee the presence of the foreigners. And while I was thinking of this, one named Abdfata took Asimi by force and slept with her. And Asimi cried to me.
12. And I raised my voice among them, saying, this thing is wrong. For how can Abdfata r@pe my sister? And they read the book to me, saying, when a girl is raped, let her be silent. And I said, this is a mad law. For when you told me of this religion, you did not reveal this evil part of the book to me.
13. Now they commanded Ozovehe my elder brother to take hold of me and throw me in the prison, because I have blasphemed Alla and dishonored Morhamid who wrote the law. And he did so, for he was closer to them than to me. And he had even told Asimi to keep quiet when she reported the deed to him, saying, I know about it from the beginning.
14. For he has paid to me your price. And I was he who advised him, saying, I know my sister that she shall not accept to be your wife, therefore ra*pe her and she shall be yours.
15. Now when I was in prison, it was granted that Asimi should pay me visits. And she came often to see me in the prison, but Ozovehe did not come at all.
16. Now Karim, the foreigner who was given to take charge of the prison began to love Asimi my sister. And Asimi said, I shall use him to set you free my brother. For I shall use love to collect the key of the prison from him.
17. And I said, what about Abdfata your husband who was forced on you? Shall he not be angry with you if he sees you with Karim? And she said, I shall be careful.
18. And Karim had a horse which Asimi had acquainted herself with when she played love with him. And the horse was white and neat. And Asimi said, brother, tomorrow I shall give Karimu my last love and take his horse away with you.
19. And so it happened as she has said. For while she played love with Karimu, he slept. And she took the key of the prison from him and opened the door for me so that we might flee. And she sat on the horse and gave me a hand. And she said to me, you shall ride the horse, for you can ride faster than me.
20. Now while I rode the horse, Ozovehe saw us. And he raised alarm. And they chased us with many horses. And Ozovehe himself led them.
21. And he shot the roki from the bazak. And the sharp metallic object entered the neck of Asimi such that she fell backward and broke her neck. And she died. And I continued to ride the horse until I had reached the mouth of the river called Okune. And I jumped into the river and swam away.
22. And for three days I was hiding here and there. And now I have come to see you, saying, seek the spirit of my father for me. For I wish that he shall forgive me for that which I did to him.
23. Now I Omokwo wept greatly and said, we know that this shall be the end of it all, that is why we have said, do not accept the religion of these foreigners. Now I do not blame you, because mistake cannot but happen. Now forgive yourself and your father shall forgive you also. But I shall do meditation to consult the spirit of your father, perhaps he is still near to this planet.
24. And I tried for three days, calling upon the name of Adeiza. And on the third day he appeared in my dream. And without speaking with his mouth, I understood him. And I knew that his soul has forgiven Adajinege and even Ozovehe his sons.
25. Now when I told this to Adajinege, he embraced me in tears. And he said to me, I never knew father can forgive me. For I have taken his leather of cowries and I have given it to the foreigners. And they seemed to know what it was meant for.

26. And I said, the soul of Adeiza is demanding reincarnation into the earth. Therefore it is abiding in a valley, waiting for the the reincarnation of his soul to the earth, for his life was cut short when his mission upon the earth has not been fulfilled.
27. For if anyone has his life or her life cut short, such soul shall be encouraged to seek reincarnation.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op):
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op): 4:29am On May 28, 2017
Oloruntobi4382:
CLICK-BAIT. Headlines used to draw traffic like: "People Buhari killed: No. 5 will shock you"

"How tinubu slayed a dragon: find out"

"How Yahweh fought Michael: find out the outcome."

And Otem you've been dodging my question.
Okay thanks, I thought as much

Your question?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 11:47pm On May 27, 2017
Chapter Thirteen
1. Now when I went with Adeiza to Okerune, I saw his children who have become worshippers of the god of the foreigners whom they call Alla. And they had changed their names to the names of the worshippers of this Alla.
2. For Asimi did say that Aisatu was her name. And Adajinege said that he was Sadiku. And Ohunene said that she was Alimatu. And Ozovehe said that he was Salami.
3. And
4. Now I said to them, children of Adeiza, why have you refused to heed the sayings of your parents. Why did you not follow your own tradition, rather than the tradition of the foreigners?
5. And Ozovehe said, these homos are more intelligent than the homos of our land. And if they say that they acquired their intelligence from this Alla, why should we not give their god a try?
6. And I said, intelligence does not come from any god, but from the organ of the head. For he who is ready to think deeply shall become intelligent. For I and Adeiza and a very few homos of this land have done critical thinking and we become more intelligent than many here.
7. Now we have made food from the waste of the pap, mixing the leaves of kiruo with it. And this makes our chicken bigger in size whenever they feed on that food, rather than feeding on corn.
8. And we do not have supporters in this, but only jealous people and enemies did we draw up to ourselves. For they said that the chicken food which we did was the cause of the diseases which has killed many of our chickens.
9. And they make us pay much money, saying that if we cannot pay, we shall be sent out of the land. Now children, listen and hear this; for if many homos in a land shal agree to think deeply together, they shall make many inventions.
10. But when the ignorant and unwilling ones are much more in number than those who want to think deeply, then such land shall be without improvement.
11. Now Adajinege said, we have heard you, but we should be left to make our own choice. Now I have resolved to be an Ishmalite and my name in Ishmalik is Sadiku, therefore let me not be called Adajinege anymore.
12. Now when the children of Adeiza did not change their minds, he said to them, I am your father and what I command shall you do. For you cannot be under my roof and feed on my food without obeying my instruction.
13. Now I command you to stop your movement with the foreigners, or else you shall not have my love as a father. For why should you do that which saddens your father?
14. Now while Adeiza spoke, Adajinege went in and packed all his belongings and left the house. And he said, Alla shall forgive you all your sins. Now I have left this house for you.
15. And Ozovehe his brother followed him. And Asimi their sister followed them also. For they have been told in the muskh of the Ishmalites, saying, if your parents refuse you, come to the muskh to have your refuge.
16. Now Ohunene alone remained with her father, for she was afraid to go with them.
17. And when they had departed, Adeiza began to weep. And I consoled him, saying, it is only a matter of time. For they shall return home by the will of our ancestors.
18. And Adeiza said, all our ancestors are asleep. For if they have been conscious at all, they would not have allowed these foreigners to come and invade our land like this.
19. Now I shall no more believe the sayings of our forefathers who said that a great god shall be born in our land. For it is not appearing as if it shall happen.
20. And I consoled Adeiza, saying, be a man and wipe your face. For it is only a broken calabash that leaks water. Be strong, for we shall laugh in the end.
21. Now I remained with Adeiza in Okerune for five days and departed.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op): 11:46pm On May 27, 2017
Oloruntobi4382:
Otem now uses clickbait undecided na wa o
I don't get you.
Christianity Etc › How Omokwo Played The Role Of Yahweh: Find Out The Outcome by OtemAtum(op): 11:07pm On May 27, 2017
When four out of five children of Omokwo became Krstens and preached hell fire to him, Omokwo made his last born his heir and called him his only begotten son. He said that his other children can only come to him through the lastborn or else they would not get anything good from him. See what happened next


DOCTUFOS: 1. Now I Omokwo have five children. And the names of my children were Ajanigo, Alolo, Ufedo, Ariga and Ebo.
2. Now before my face, four of my five children changed to the religion of the foreigners. For when they went to the school of the foreigners to learn, they were taught their religion, saying, after death shall be heaven and fire only.
3. And those who believe in Zeusus shall go to heaven while they who do not believe in him shall go to the fire to be there forever. Now I called my children and said to them, where do you think that your distant great grandfather Mona shall be now as we speak?
4. And they said, he shall be in the fire because he did not know Zeusus in his days.
5. And I said, why should he go to the fire because he did not know Zeusus? Does he have any fault for not knowing Zeusus? For in his days, Issa was he whom they told him about. And they did not even say that Issa died for the world. But he did not believe all their stories because there are greater stories here also which we pass from mouth to mouth to our children and grandchildren.
6. Now Alolo said to me, father, we do not wish that our ancestors should go to the fire, but the reality is that they shall be there forever. And Omokwo said, you children are making me laugh. For it is as if you are drunken with emu.
7. Now Ariga said, it is not an excuse that they do not believe in God while they were alive. And they shall by now be wailing in the fire. For they shall not be forgiven, no matter how they now plead for mercy. For there is no mercy in the fire of God.
8. Now Ufedo, being the last child of the family, who did not know much of the things which they spoke, was called apart by me. And I said to him, you are the youngest of my children, but I have made you greater than your four elder brothers.
9. And you alone have I accepted as my only child. And you are my first and last born. And all the things which I have are yours. And only through you should anyone come to me. Now have the key to my room.
10. Now Ufedo was very glad. And when his brothers sought after their father for food, he said to them, you are not worthy to be seen in my presence. Go and see Ufedo your little brother and accept him as your Lord and master. And if you do not accept him as such, you shall see my wrath.
11. For I have put in his charge all powers of this house. And through him alone can you be reconciled with me.
12. Now when the children of Omokwo went to Ufedo that he should give them the key to the storehouse so that they might take food and other things which belonged to the father, he said to them, call me Lord.
13. And they took him and beat him up in anger.
14. Now when Omokwo heard how they had maltreated his only acceptable son, he went after them and caught them. And he beat them with the rod and locked them up, saying, you shall be in that room forever. And I shall neither give you food or water.
15. Now the children of Omokwo thought that it was only a joke. And they cried out for help for three days, for they were very hungry. And Ufedo entered into the locked room after three days. And they said, now we have accepted you as the firstborn and even the only son of our father.
16. Now give us food and water to drink.
17. And Ufedo said, it is too late to do so. For the time when this was possible has long past. And there is no forgiveness for you.
18. Now at that time, Adeiza the grandson of Omini came from Okerune to see Omokwo. And he said, Omokwo the great one, I have come to do to you what Mona your ancestor did to Agidi my own ancestor. For in those days, Mona came even on foot to see Agidi my ancestor.
19. Now I have deemed it fit to come to see you in this place and share with you some experiences which are disturbing my minds. For even now, I have lost hope of the coming of anything or any god called Otem.
20. For rather than a saviour of our land from the religions of the foreigners, what we have is the massive conversion of our children to those foreign religions while they burn our own objects of meditation, calling them the objects of the devil.
21. Now I think there is no hope anymore. For even as I speak, my children have become Ishlamites. And they touched the ground with their foreheads to worship that which they call Alla.
22. Now I Omokwo said, I know that you Adeiza are an influential homo in Okerune and around. And you have much fame. And if you say that there is no hope, who am I to say that there is?
23. For even my own children are now Krishtenis and they see me as a demon and a devil now. And they say that my ancestors their ancestors are burning now in the fire. And they say that if I do not believe the story of that Zeusus who died in the land where I did not know about, then I shall be cast into fire when I die.
24. Now Adeiza said, let them come here so that I may talk to them so that they might change. For it is for the purpose of taking you to Okerune to talk with my own children have I also come.
25. Now let our hands help one another.
26. Now I said to Adeiza, I cannot bring those children to you here, for they are locked up in the room as a punishment for their wickedness. And they shall remain in that place forever.
27. When Adeiza could not persuade me to release them, I said to him, follow me. And he followed me to the place where my children lay. And Ufedo followed us also. And when we were in the place, we coughed greatly because of the ground pepper I had sprinkled there.
28. And Adeiza said, for how many days have you kept them here without feeding them? And I said, for three days. And Adeiza said, you are the most wicked being I have ever seen.
29. For what offence could have been so great committed against you to warrant starvation of your our creatures which you gave life to?
30. Now while Adeiza spoke, they groaned in pain and said, let us accept Ufedo as our lord now. Let him be everything and anything you have made him to be, but take us out of this hot room and feed us. For you are our father.
31. And I said, no, for it is not my principle to let you out forever. And Adeiza said to me, you are mad, Omokwo. Shall we chase a bad child to the tiger to prey upon?
32. Now set them free or else I shall set them free myself and go apart from you forever.
33. Now when Adeiza said this, I wept. And my children wondered why I wept. And I said, it is only the third day, but I cannot withstand the suffering I put my children to anymore.
34. How then shall there be a god who shall cast his homo in the fire forever without feeding them or forgiving them. Behold I say, such god should be given a chieftancy title in the kingdom of the monsters. For it is not possible for a father to subject his children to starvation and confinement for petty things done, let alone leaving them in a fire forever.
35. Therefore Ajanigo, Alolo, Ebo and Ariga, go and think about that idea of a fire burning your ancestors forever and relate it with the experience you have had here today.
36. For I tell you the truth, whoever makes an afterlife of fire for humanity is a devil and his rivals and superiors who are better than him shall not allow such kind of fire to remain burning. For even as Adeiza forced me to end this punishment, so shall the higher beings who are wise stop whoever that being is who made an eternal fire as a place to be after death.
37. For foolishness is the portion of Yahweh if indeed he ever nursed such kind of afterlife in his mind, let alone making it real. Therefore my children, forgive me for subjecting you through these three days of fasting and heat. For this I do to save you and your future from becoming useless to yourself by wasting your time worshipping a god who is a terrorist.

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