₦airaland Forum

Sir, where was the insult in post?
If I state that I think someone lacks the level of education, exposure or expertise needed to understand or undertake a task, does that amount to insults?

banom:
If not for your childishness and inattentiveness you would have known I am the OP. When you come here to insult IPOB you expect me to laugh and clap for you. I told you what you bargained for.

If you want to create the crisis, this time around, you have to sit down and plan very well, consider the pros and cons, the resources (plus adequate food) you need to see it through, including the consequences ,let it be limited to your area, don't expect or rely on the support or understanding of your perceived competitors/opponents/enemies to avoid the stories that touch hearts when you start shouting betrayal or backstabbing.

Warship:
You really understand the conditions(eg crisis) that stir up the international community to speak up for peaceful resolution through a Referendum.

Donelli, this is what Kanu should focus on(Create Crisis).

How do we secretly create a crisis that can stir up the international community to speak up and intervene.?

That is why I also advocate for secret development of Biafra military capacity to secure our sovereignty once the crisis erupts.

You are just abusing ( that is what you know how to do best) me but you haven't said anything about the subject matter.

The Op called for intellectual debate and not a contest for 'Insults, abuses or curses'

banom:
With this your comment, you just exposed your igYounorance and lack of education in a public forum without knowing it. You are obviously a product of failed Nigerian educational system who is lucky enough to borrow a browsing phone with 5mb in it.

No point enlightening you much, I will only remind you that without IPOB unmatched intelligence you would have been calling a Sudanees man your president today.

Sir, I admire your understanding of the issues and your maturity.

I think your postulation is 100% correct theoretically and may even be 50% correct in reality.
The are two main reasons why it may not be 100% correct in reality.

1) If IPOB were to leverage on their popularity and transform into a political party or join the electoral contests, they will be up against APGA, PDP and APC which are well organized and entrenched political parties with structures in every ward in the S/east with financial war chests to prosecute electoral battles.
The ONLY strength of IPOB will be emotional support for Biafra, so IPOB can only win about 50% of the electoral posts contested.

2) The second and greater factor that will erode IPOB support is this; achieving popular electoral victory based largely on emotional support is NOT the same thing as good governance.

IPOB as presently constituted in NOT a group of intellectuals, successful corporate icons or seasoned administrators and their members lack the requisite experience, political sagacity or adequate preparations necessary to develop Alaigbo, so IPOB Governments will NOT be very different from the present State Governments.
In the face of economic downturn, how will IPOB generate enough IGR to pay their workforce, construct major roads, provide adequate health facilities and substantial employment in their States? Within two years, strikes and disenchantments will set in such that by 2023, IPOB will lose most of its support base and appeal.

Agitating for Biafra will only elicit emotional support in matters of 'Igbo Vs Non-Igbos' but in matters of 'Igbo Vs Igbos', it will take a back stage because it doesn't put foods on their tables, pay their children school fees or secure employments for their youths.

dokie:
The bolded is the issue.

Having absolute boycott of elections or any other form of civil disobedience is totally impossible under the present circumstance. At least 50% of igbos living within and outside the south east will not engage in civil disobedience. Why? Because some of them do not want to secede and the others do not believe that the process will yield any result in the crude Nigerian system of today where the government does not give a damn if it's citizens live or die for as long as they keep their positions and the oil money is flowing. And if Civil disobedience is not consistently absolute it cannot achieve its purpose.

Nnamdi Kanu is jumping the gun. He seems to have forgotten that the Biafra struggle started before he was born and does not necessarily need to be actualized in his lifetime. If he did, he would have realized that one needs to be more strategic in approach, take it the extent he can, and another person takes it from there.

The initial steps NK took to garner support and large followership was great and should have been consolidated upon for the next ideal level which was to take over south east political leadership. And don't say votes don't count it's not true. IPOB has the capacity to win 80% of the electoral seats in igboland. You cannot be rigged out in a place where you have overwhelming support, it cannot happen. But unfortunately he went to declare election boycott which was a penalty to throwing kinda thing.

If he had done that, IPOB would have had political power in 2019, and further consolidated in 2023. I don't want to go further than this regarding further steps after getting the power but know that holding the political power of the south east has limitless possibilities for the Biafran struggle. Ojukwu was able to declare Biafra simply because he was in control of the government of the eastern region.

A good example of what power can do is Catalonia where most if not the entire political class are in support of the secession. See the impact they are making. Theirs is a question of time, while ours is a question of how (under the present circumstance). .

Now, that opportunity has been lost and elections will hold and the boycott will not achieve anything because most igbos with pvc will vote, especially with the Peter Obi factor, and the hatred for Buhari.

In a nutshell 'absolute' boycott cannot be achieved. what could have been achieved (and can still be achieved but in the next election season), is a major participation to enthrone IPOB members in the seat of power, and continue the struggle from that point.

I don't think the IPOB leadership and their supporters have this level of exposure, knowledge and education.

artofseduction:
M engaging u

Pls be logical with your points and don't throw tantrums


Can u in all honesty explain to me how boycotting elections will give you referendum and give examples of countries where it has worked.


Let me give you reasons why IPOB Should participate fully in politics.

First the present occupant of that seat i the worst person IPOB will wish to be there.

The Python dance u re seeing now is d tip of the iceberg cos he is coming back for another term. But come next year, na crocodile dance una go c.

First thing first
Get someone who will even dialogue with u instead unleashing military on u.


Separatist all over the world involve themselves in politics
Scotland
Catalonia
Kurds
Ireland's
California
Etc

In absence of this, d only option left for IPOB is to rebel and since you don't have the fire power. So what else?

IPOB should've adopted.a political party even if u can't muster presidential candidate

Have governors, National Assembly members

Take over the SE Political block and from their u plan economically and politically.


Lets be honest with ourselves.

PRIDE is KANU PROBLEM.

Boycotting elections will worsen our situation.

IPOB was declared a terrorist organization because the Governors advised the F2F 2 do so.


Imagine if IPOB controls the SE political block.

Wallahi, the FG would've given them a referendum.

They can even push for an independence government, lobby the international communities politically.

Dre is something these IPOBS don't understand.

The UN will never give u referendum because its being controlled by countries that have separatist agitations in their home countries.

If they do, they will be giving them hope to push forward their own demand.

These includes
USA (California )
UK (Scotland )
Spain (Catalonia )
Russia (Crimea /Ukraine etc)
CHINA (Taiwan)

If these countries has separatist issues in their own countries
While will they want to risk it to give Biafran referendum.

IPOB should open their eyes and stop swallowing whatever jargons KANU throws at them people.

But Buhari will still win the 2019 General elections.

FarahAideed:
Looked more qualified to be soldier than Buhari ever was !!!!! It's clear from his confident stance and good phisique he met the maximum requirement requisite to be a Nigerian soldier including having is WASC cert unlike a dullard we all know who failed to meet the minimum requirement need to joine the Army but yet dishonestly forced himself in with lies and Bigotry... Buhari is the greatest beneficiary of the Nigerian rot yet some people want us to believe he will be the one to fix it ..Not Possible!!!!!!

So Boko Haram are doing the works of your own Allah?

Npfn:
Am ashamed of Nigeria military thank you bokoharam for the works of Allah sharia must be achieved

It is most unfortunate that we experienced that civil war.
It was totally unnecessary and avoidable, however we need to say the truth the ways it is and learn from our past mistakes.




Sir, next time you want to go to war,make sure you are well prepared and don't assume your opponents will churn out only policies that will be favourable to you.

humilitypays:
Stop talking nonsense about Python dance, it is a shameful exercise by a whole country army to use full war combat force on an unarmed citizens agitating for freedom.

IPOB boys in Umuahia and all over have no weapon, they don't carry weapon, they have no guns or bombs or grenades, their weapon is information yet your shameless military brag about defeating them, lol, defeating unarmed youths, is that not shameful pls be honest.

Even ordinary armed robber, our soldiers find it hard to arrest them and when they dare, most lose their lives in the process, so u think if IPOB youths were armed, Nigerian soldiers would have succeeded so easily in dismantling them If u think that way then u lack wisdom or maybe a teenager bragging online.

Buhari is playing with fire. He was pushing IPOB to the walls and u know the world now is a deadly place, we have lots of foreigners waiting to take advantage of any vulnerability in any oil rich or populated nation to make money for themselves, so they can come in and arm IPOB and Nigeria will start to burn from another angle making it easy for Nigeria to finally disintegrate with Boko Haram in Northeast, IPOB fighting in Southeast, do u think it will be easy for FG that can't defeat ordinary ragtag Boko Haram militia for close to a decade now

KANU and IPOB are unarmed so stop bragging about defeating them.

The only time Igbos and some Niger Delta fought together as Biafra against Nigeria, it wasn't funny ask people that witnessed the war, Nigeria lost over 500,000 military personnel to Biafra war.

Biafra lost mostly children and vulnerable aged people and women due to hunger and malnutrition after Awolowo then Federal Minister of Finance advised Nigerian government then to change their currency so Biafra government won't be able to buy food and drugs from international market, go check facts and figures okay.

Nwanne m, nabata eziokwu.

Which of the Military commanders was a British?







Which batallion of the British Army was sent to Nigeria between 1967-1970?

How many British soldiers died for Nigeria during the Civil War?

fuckboys:
Bro, if you go through my posts on Nairaland, you'll realize my moniker doesn't portray me.

Hausas, yorubas and the other tribes that fought the biafrans were just British foot soldiers, the real war was between Biafra and British

Continue to console yourself.

fuckboys:
we fought the war with British not Nigeria, if we had fought the war with Nigeria we would have wiped out hausas and yorubas 50 years ago

If you are this embittered, i wonder what you will be saying by Feb, 2019.

FarahAideed:
Even at the rank of Colonel the congenital dullard still had to be taught how to use a G3 rifle .

This is very unnecessary.

GuyWise101:
The uneducated herdsman that mistakenly found himself in the Nigeria army was marveled at the sight of the weapon that the highly intelligent Biafrans was using in dealing with him and his fellow Abok!s.

The little Igbo my GF thought me vanished in the face of this 'real Igbo'.

The only thing I can manage to decipher is 'Umuaka'= Children of elites
Obodo Lagos= In the city of Lagos.

So I guess you talked about the children of elites in Lagos.

hijodedios:
nwanne m nwoke,udo diri gi maka edemede a idere ebea,obi di m uto n'ihi na oka nwere ndi o na amasi ka asusu Igbo ghara ibu ihe nara n'iyi kama ka ndi Igbo kulite na ura na ebe mgbasa ozi Igbo di.O bu ihe nwute ma burukwa nnukwu ihe ihere na otutu umuaka Igbo enweghi ike isu asusu Igbo ma ghara itinye asusu oyibo na ime ya,nke kasi njo bu na ndi nne na nna anyi oge ugbua anaghi akpo ya mpka ikuziri umuaka ha asusu Igbo,okachasi ndi nke amuru na obodo lagos.Ndumaodu m na enye ndi nne na nna tata bu ka anyi jidesie ike na agba mbo na nkuzi na nkwado asusu Igbo na ebe umuaka anyi no.Ka chineke gozie ndi Igbo nile na ebe obula ha no.

(it will take a real Igbo man/woman to read and understand me because my laptop didn't have the functions to punctuate my write up adequately)

Anybody who believes this report can believe anything.
When did Nigerian market women start rejecting money because it has 'political undertone'

Change is inevitable and no empire last forever.

Many people will develop heart attack by Feb,2019 after the results of the election is announced.

Sir, where in my posts did I talked about who and which tribe founded the town?

'Why running when no one is chasing you?'

Swashy4:
UGBODU WAS NEVER FOUNDED BY YORUBAS. THERE WERE IGBOS ALREADY IN UGBODU BEFORE THE WARRIORS FROM AKURE ARRIVED AND CALLED THE IGBOS "OLUKUMI " WHICH MEANS MY FRIEND BECAUSE THEY WERE FRIENDLY AND WELCOMED THEM. THE NAME STUCK AND ALSO THE WARRIORS RULED UGBODU KIMGDOM FOR SOMETIME BEFRE THE OBA SENT PEOPLE AND TOOK OVER AMD THEN THE IGBOS. SO IGBO HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE FOUNDATION OF UGBODU. AND FOR THE NAME,UGBODU WAS JUST UGBODU WHICH HAS ITS OWN MEANING IN IGBO,OR UGBODU UNO. IT WAS THE YORUBAS THAT CALLED IT UGBODUMILA.

The president does NOT have the power to do this kind of restructuring.

It involve constitution amendment which is beyond his powers.

orisa37:
No one wished Buhari dead. But these people you mentioned above and many more like I am seriously wanted him to surprise IPOB and The World by granting Full Prestructuring for Police Security Control, Resources Control and Electioneering Control to our 36 States.

Who is Yoruba in the story? Is it Nnamdi Kanu , Buhari or Jubrin from Sudan?
Why bringing Yoruba into the story?

Hfavored:
When we told them that Igbos ar the wisest, yorubads couldn't believe ..... What an igbo child see while sitting on the floor a yoruba elder cannot see it even while sitting on the tallest Iroko tree

There is nothing like claiming here sir.
My post was in response to Big Francis's wrong assumption that Ugbodu has no meaning in Yoruba language which I tried to enlightened him.

It never cease to amuse me how nairaland tribalists think a whole population of people of Ugbodu be claimed like a parcel of land.

The people of Ugbodu know their history very well.

They said their town's full name is Ugbo-du-mi la which is a Yoruba sentence meaning the Forest saved me to prosper.

Swashy4:
UGBODU IS AN IGBO WORD,ODINANI IS IGBO. THE YORUBAS CAN NEVER EVER CLAIM UGBODU. THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT THEY DO BEST,WHICH IS TALK OP.

Sound like mad man talking.

Most of the mad people peddling the rumour of Jubrin Al Sudan are from a certain geopolitical part of Nigeria.

So, this is the guy they call small doctor?

They are going to vote massively for Atiku.

IbrahimDamola:
We all know there are boko sympathizers in other states pretending to be cobblers, mai shayi,iron condemn scavengers, beggars, etc. The issue is these boko elements are they more likely to vote buhari or Atiku?

Grow up for once, the post modern world has gone beyond tribalism.
This your 17th century mentality will limit your success.

MONIKERREVEALER:
consider the cunting oyoruba above.

observe how he cunningly placed the fulanis before his people, the oyorubas.

thats just how cowardly these wasterners are!

they know they are no match in ANY battlefield once the igbos are concerned. ergo, they never fail to put the northerners in front of themselves whenever they experience the unremitting urge to join swords with the great igbo people.

what a despicably cowardly biitch-arsed lot!

1)My support or lack of support is not what is preventing the restoration of Biafra.

2) Biafran restoration hasn't succeeded because the major political powers haven't back the struggle.

3) You should be more concerned about how the Anambra State House of Assembly can declare Biafra secession or how Senators Abaribe, T.A Orji, Ike Ekweremadu &others can move motions for the independence of Biafra.

4) Firstly,you need political power to actualize Biafra.

Ojukwu couldn't have had the authority to declare Biafra in 1967 if he wasn't the Military Governor of Eastern Region but was just an ordinary Lt.Col in the Army or if he was just a radio on-air-personality

vanbonattel:
You see how sweet this business dealings sound? Why not support biafra, your new Oduduwa country has access to the sea and can soar without hindrance from the Nigeria unworkable systems.

We are too interdependent not to need each other.
Even if we are to have Biafra today, the core North will still be exporting its beef, leather, Beans, Rice, tomatoes, Pepper, onions,cotton, groundnut to Biafra and Biafra will still be importing oil, petrochemicals and electricity from theThe Niger-Delta Republic.

The South west will still be exporting manufactured goods, cocoa, timber and wood products to Biafra and will provide ports services to Biafra for at least 10-15 years.

LZAA:
Oyatz cannot dream of losing his mbaise wife hence the attache by force

What do you mean?

Biafra is not only for the lgbos ,even there are Fulani, Yoruba , Efik and Nupe Biafrans.

duncun:
This dude listens to Radio Biafra than most of the biafrans . Now, tell me if he has any other job than to be online to attack NK.

Ah, the FG want to destroy ASUU, the only influential voice that fight for the education of the children of the masses.

You are free to believe anyt that make you happy but that doesn't mean anybody that ask questions about the rationality of or scrutinize such beliefs is igbophobic.

Igbo, Idoma, Igala, Edo and Yoruba are all similar and most likely related.

immhotep:
Y'all need to read more about this subject before coming to NL to recycle this Igbo-phobia stuff

If Igbo secede, there won't be Nigeria left because there will be no justification to stop any State from seceding.
Secession of any part of Nigeria will mean disintegration of the Country.

velocity25:
what is paining him is fear of the gambari, because he knows that his masters will not show mercy to him if Igbos leaves.#Umu-Igbo Amaka