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mojeer678:


Very imaginative. I'm sure you'll light up as a Christmas tree immediately you are asked for that day's password and you could only mutter some gibberish.

Instead of kicking you out, I'm sure you would be dragged inside and forever vanish!

Some territories are not meant to be trampled upon.

Moreover, that's a mission for those fat-paychecks collecting agents of the SSS. Since I don't belong to those very nice organisations, whose bosses probably are members of the 'church', thus ensuring its presence in a highly populated area of Lagos State all of these years, then you can guess what happens to intruders!

Cant stop laughing!

vest:
my Blive I Am Saved, I Am Being Save And I Will Be Save. A Continus Proces Nt A 1time Tin

Since U Are Saved, Wat If U Do Bad Works Tomoro(i.e Sin) Can U Lost It?

The truth is u cant be genuinely saved n continue in bad 'work' or sin as the case maybe. But u should never forget the fact that we r all growing to maturity unto the fulness of Christ, so a babe in Christ would still exhibit carnality. But as he grows up to maturity he conforms more to Christ.

Now the problem comes when one claim to have given his life to Christ for some considerable no of yrs n there seem to be no difference or sign of growth.

Now I dont believe any can accept Chriist genuinely n be damned, many that still persist in evil works r liars n hypocrites n never genuiinely met with Christ whiich is why they can never change.

It all boiils down to genuinely accepting Christ. Can a good tree bear a bad fruit, n if it does it means it wasnt a good tree after all.

Kaymania:
Olamide Adedeji(a.k.a, BADDO) is someone who recognizes the existence of God, he talks about him in almost all his raps, check out the one he said in the song he dropped with his kinsmen(as he call them..lil kesh and vikt0h), the title of the song is 'Our Lord Jesus'
The song is somehow(not all) made to remind people about God(he preached to people through the song)
He said 'Our lord Jesus is the ladder' meaning Jesus christ is the only way to make heaven, he is our only hope of making heaven,
And if you've forgotten, i'll remind you...
Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me” (John 14:6, NIV) and, “For unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins” (John 8:24, NIV). The apostle Peter echoed these words, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12, KJV).
so, what Olamide meant by 'Our Lord Jesus is the ladder' is that Jesus is our connection to making heaven, i.e, if you live your life christlikely, you'll definitely make heaven..

I don't think he is into any occultic kingdom.

Acts 16:16-18

1john 2:14

Xcapist:
But you do know that nobody is going to heaven, right?

The Christians say that all unbelievers will burn in the lake of fire...that disqualifies the larger percentage of world, the Muslims say the same too. Christians cancel Muslims, Muslims cancel Christians, the rest have already been cancelled by both so who ends up getting in?

Simple maths, nobody. Anyway, it seems like hell is where all the fun's gonna be at. I don't want to float on clouds, with white flowing robes holding unto a harp and chanting amen hallelujah holy eternally! I'll be bored to death. What do you think?

U are very right, u will never be bored in Hell!

PastorOluT:
Smile, now seun has to be banning people from this forum for being dumb, a child going to Heaven means everyone to u?

Anyone that doesn't believe in Christ is condemned already 'cos he has not believed in the only begotten of the father John 3:16-18.

smile, now I understand bondage for real, it zap up every form of sense from those practicing religion.

PastorOluT:
This is simply as a result of ignorance, if only u understand redemption!

I put it to u again;

what do u understand by salvation n justification, or are they d same to u?

What do u understand by redemption?

italo if u can't answer these questions u get out of this thread 'cos I am tired of ur childish ranting.

Also 1John 3:8-9

italo:
Aha! Now you are ashamed of your false doctrine.

You said only Christians would go to heaven. See where you were fighting me when I said non-Christians can go to heaven in the pic.

Now everyone can go to heaven abi?

Olodo.

Let me ask you again:

Can a non-Christian go to heaven?

Smile, now seun has to be banning people from this forum for being dumb, a child going to Heaven means everyone to u?

Anyone that doesn't believe in Christ is condemned already 'cos he has not believed in the only begotten of the father John 3:16-18.

italo:
The people performing miracles in Jesus' name:

1. Did they have faith?

2. Were they saved?

3. Did they do good or bad works?

When u start answering my questions I will start answering urs 'cos obviously u r not ready to listen while u are consumed with ur preconceived ideas.

italo:
Stop clutching at straws.

I told you non-Christians can be saved, you said no.

Now you suddenly agree that non-Christians can be saved.

But only after I made you look stupidd.

Smile smh, pls what's ur qualification aside from religion 'cos people like u bring reproach to Christianity by atheists with this kind of comprehension. Or u never did English in school, I bet a 2 yr old would do better in comprehension?

A child can't be termed Atheists, etc, their practice make them one!

italo:
PastorOluT,

First, only Christians were saved...you called me dumb when I disagreed.

Now that I show you how stupidd your claim is, suddenly a muslim child can be saved...and a Bhuddist, Hindu, Pagan, Atheist etc.

What about a Muslim adult who was born mentally insane?

He is saved too abi?

Pastor olodo.

U rant as an ignoramus that u are, u kept one saying u proved, did I ever said before a child will go to Hell, so where is ur proof.

Obviously u grabbing d last straw as a drowning man.

italo:
Before you flee from the issue:

You say only believers will go to heaven. Now you say a muslim child can go to heaven.

You see that your doctrine is a lie?

This is simply as a result of ignorance, if only u understand redemption!

I put it to u again;

what do u understand by salvation n justification, or are they d same to u?

What do u understand by redemption?

vest:
Brother Its Nt Abt Who Loss Or Wins

If U Say My Works Are Nt Important For My Salvation It Means I Dnt Nid To Do Anytin Good Or Bad Cus Nt Doing Good Work Is Doing Bad Work

Smile, work is a spiritual natural response to grace in this dispensation. 'I am saved which is why I do good works, I don't do good works in other to be saved.

italo:
You are just blowing meaningless grammar.

A man is justified by his works, not by faith alone (James 2:24). That is what the Bible says. Stop looking for ways to twist it.

A man of faith can commit sin. That's why Jesus told those who call him "Lord, Lord," "away from me, you workers of iniquity."

That's why even St. Paul was worried about his own salvation.

Smile, U are just so impossible, what did i type n what did u comment? Just as someone earlier suggested u r at war with urself, peace be still!

Though u are not answering my questions, another one for u;

What do u understand by 1john 3:8-9?

italo:
You are judging and condemning non-christians to hell...the same way the Jews condemned Gentiles to hell.

Paul told them Gentiles who didn't have the law wouldn't be judged by the law. You want Paul to come back to earth to tell you non-christians who don't have the commandments of Christ will not be judged by it?

You think God is unfair and selfish like you pentecostals?

If you say only believers will go to heaven, what about a child who dies at the age of 2.

He will go to hell?

Tell me!

Ur first statement I am 'judging n condemning people to Hell', can u show me just one of my post that says that?

So u still think we will be judged by the law? No wonder u have such understanding.

Why will a child go to Hell? Irrespective of what his parent believes he is saved, please kindly explain the work of redemption Christ wrought 'cos I don't think u understand that.

italo:
There is no dilemma.

Nobody here said we are saved by works.

The Catholic Church says we are saved by the grace of God but faith and works are our necessary response.

Both passages fit well into that doctrine but your false doctrine contradicts James 2:24.

Thank God u are coming around for the first part of this post, so what are we saying n what are u commenting n disagreeing with?

And as for James, he was talking about works born out of faith as ur works shows ur faith. Though Paul preaches n emphasizes grace alone, bt u can't imagine him commiting adultery n those heinous sins? In fact he already kept all the law n was perfect according to it when he was yet to encounter Christ. Bt do u know what he did? He count it all bygone for Christ sake 'cos he came to realize that his work never count when it comes to grace.

NB I noticed u miss up salvation n justification, pls can u show the difference or are they d same to u?

clean2:
Pastor olu T am really disappointed to see a writeup such as this emanating from you,, is it that you have backslidded and now trying to find justification for the pleasure which sinful lifestyle offers,,please never justify sin for any reason which satan have tried to convince you with, its not too late to rise again, dust yourself , pick up your cross and continue the journey to heaven on the narrow road..our salvation is now nearer than we ever knew. The rapture is now nearer.

Pls go read the post again n also my previous posts for that will help, or is Paul also justifying sin by saying by works shall no man be saved?

Princecalm:
What do you do when your Dad or Mum detest of the one you love so dearly?.Will you just ignore and go on with the wedding.

First u have to prayerfully consider ur choice once again 'cos there was obviously something they saw. After that n u still do not see anything, try talking to them n prayerfully make them see reasons with u while u may employ the plea of someone close to them.

NB The truth is never go ahead without their consent, I have seen a few that went ahead like that n majority of those relationships never end up well.

italo:
Paul was writing to the Church in Rome. Christians!

He was only using the Jew-Gentile argument to prevent them from judging anyone the way you are judging non-Christians.

Judging non-christians, nah, calling a spade a spade isn't judging bt love in is real sense. In fact I am showing more love telling them the truth n showing what's obvious that they might see the light n be saved, rather than being an hypocrite or nonchallant to their error which is detrimental to their soul.

shdemidemi:
Please take it easy with him. He is speaking from what he has been exposed to probably for the most part of his life, nothing else seem to make sense. It can be frustrating atimes but we must squelch such frustration with the mind set that it's all a service for God, which is the primary reason why we were created.

Thanks, I am sorry for the outburst 'cos I was seriously pushed by him.

PastorOluT:
Smile, now I know u are dumb for sure for surely I use to give u reasonable doubt before.

U quote a scripture out of context n the only one u see to back up ur lame claim. In what context was Paul saying that, u use a verse out of context to negate all Jesus said? I pity u sincerely.

What does John 3:16- 17; 17:1 n a whole lot mean to u?

I will be back to quote all those scriptures not for u 'cos u case is done bt for others on this thread.

I am back to quote;

For God so love the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God didn't send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him us not condemned; but he who does not believe in Him is condemned already, because he had not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God.

John 3:16-18

And this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

John 17:3

So italo this does nt expressly state to u that none can be saved without Jesus?

italo:
Now you're saying it wasn't the Holy Spirit that inspired Romans 2?

Ehn, pastor olodo?!

And you still are too dishonest to answer whether believers who do bad are heaven-bound while non-believers who are good are hell-bound!

Did u go to school at all, can't u see the context of Romans 2 that Paul was speaking to the Jews who trusted in the law?

I can see u are not just dumb bt lost in deceit n can never be helped.

italo:
Olodo pastor. See how St. Paul makes a fool of you. The passage below clearly shows that:

1. People who don't believe in Christ can go to heaven.

2. It is not you hearers that will go to heaven, but DOERS!

12 All who have sinned apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 When Gentiles, who do not possess the law, do instinctively what the law requires, these, though not having the law, are a law to themselves. 15 They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God, through Jesus Christ, will judge the secret thoughts of all.

Again, I ask.

You believe that people who dont know Jesus but do good will go to hell while those who believe in Jesus but do bad will go to heaven?

Smile, now I know u are dumb for sure for surely I use to give u reasonable doubt before.

U quote a scripture out of context n the only one u see to back up ur lame claim. In what context was Paul saying that, u use a verse out of context to negate all Jesus said? I pity u sincerely.

What does John 3:16- 17; 17:1 n a whole lot mean to u?

I will be back to quote all those scriptures not for u 'cos u case is done bt for others on this thread.

ooman:
A parable, by Atheist Republic contributor, Abbas Syed.

Four men are having tea in The Great Afterlife Café; one is a Muslim, one is a Christian, one is a Jew, and one is an atheist. The great Archangel Gabriel flies into the café and tells them, "God has been expecting you, please come along." The theists give the atheist a smug look as they all fly off together, mocking him relentlessly, telling him that he will not be getting any virgins, or delicious food, refreshing drinks, or even fresh air. Gabriel, with a sudden flick of his golden stick, orders all four men to stop and bow in preparation for God's appearance.

The three believers waste no time and get their foreheads to touch the surface of the great white cloud. Their eyes filled with tears, their hearts carried away with the sentiments for their Abrahamic God. "Yes, we were right! We were right!" they congratulate themselves. They feel something humungous rising up in front of them as the atheist, seeing what's coming, begins laughing. Suddenly, the entire cloud shakes so dramatically, it causes the believers to look up from their bow. Their joy and excitement suddenly fade as they discover that it was God's hammer causing the cloud-quake, and behold, Thor is the one, the almighty God!

Thor orders all the three believers to be thrown face-first into Hades because they believed in stories, and asks his personal assistant, Forseti, what should be done with the atheist. "Well," suggests Forseti, "I know that he did not believe in you, but at least he did not commit the sin of making up his own gods. Nevertheless, now that he has seen you and your power, he has become a true believer!"

And so, the atheist waves his hand to the believers who are undergoing the first stages of their torture as he enters paradise.

Time and again, the religious lobby argues the "uncertainty argument," emphasizing that they are safe whether a god exists or not and that if atheists are wrong about god, they'll be sent to hell. But clearly, they're only safe if there is a god and it happens to be the one god they follow. The whole religious lobby is nothing more than a house divided against itself.

[url]atheistrepublic.com[/url]

Was this meant to be funny, sorry i didn't get ur joke?

italo:
So you believe that all those who don't believe in Christ are hell bound even if they are good to their neighbour, like the good samaritan...

And all those who believe in Jesus are heaven bound, even ignore the plight of their neighbour, like the goats in Matt 25:31-46?

Your doctrine is from SATAN!

Are u for real, are u a real at all?

What does no one come to the father but by me mean to u?

U don't even understand the fundamentals of xtianity, u talk of doctrines, what is the doctrine of salvation according to the scriptures n not ur feelings or though?

dein77:
Dear, it was literally a hell. I had to later buy new Bibles and download the real Word even as I permanently delete the religious garbage I was fed there.

Thank God for ur life, there are many still in the bondage n are confused who don't really know what the problem is.

italo:
We enjoy the Christianity that Jesus preached: "carry your CROSS daily and follow me."

You enjoy the heresy that allowed Pastor COZA to tell Ese that committing adultery with her is showing her "another level of grace."

"Away from me, you workers of iniquity, I never knew you" is Jesus' answer for you.

Smile, why not be sincere to urself. U know quite well no true Christian agree to or encourage adultery or fornication, so why bring that, or u think this is what the op is about? Then i am very sorry for ur level of comprehension, not surprise 'cos a carnal man can't understand the things of the spirit.

This is co simple for anyone to comprehend, we are nt saved by good works, bt rather we are saved which is why we do good works. When u see a spirit filled xtian u will always see the fruit, bt for the fact u see fruit of righteousness doesn't make one a true xtian. Or ow do u reconcile those of other religions bearing fruit of righteousness, would their righteousness make them saved.

U seriously need the Holy Spirit bro to be able to discern these things!

There is more to this world than the physical, there is more to life than here n now.

NB Though this might be false bt that does nt name the reality of the supernatural.

italo:
God wants us to be holy and stay away from sin.

If you contradict that, you are no different from the prosperity preachers who want all the benefits they can get from God without making any sacrifice.

You're all heretics!

Sorry for u, reasons u guys can never enjoy Christianity.

And as u reply pastorkun, also state what u understand by being led by the Holy Spirit?

dein77:
Thanks for this article. Many people have actually misapplied and misunderstood what holiness means. Holiness simply means being led by the Holy Spirit. It means allowing the Holy Spirit apply the Word of God to our lives.
Holiness goes beyond the innocent walk and talk.
OP, I had to leave my former place of worship pastors there replaced God's Word with their own ordinances and patterns. It was so cumbersome I started living a mechanical Christian life, soaked with the stress of pleasing people. The man made bondage was unbearable. I was literally walking in the law.
After many years of internal struggle, I prayerfully left. Today I worship God in liberty. I thank God for that bold step.
As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Rom 8.14

Thank God for a testimony like this, many need to be delivered from this bondage 'cos as it were many are moving from the bondage of the world into religious bondage which is no different and many at times worst.

It is of a great concern in the Christendom today, the great harm the so called "prosperity and name it and claim it" preachers are doing to the body of Christ, but it is also to be noted that the so called "holiness" preachers are doing equal harm. This set of men propound man made rules and doctrines which brings fear and bondage, because their adherents can never measure up.

We are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus, and not by works which is just a manifestation of our new kind of life. Our works is just like the fruits of a tree, the tree makes the fruit and not the other way round. So also our new life in Christ Jesus makes us do good works, but our good works can never make us have the life of Christ.

Christianity is spiritual and not sensual or a set of dos and don'ts as some makes it look, we received and live a new kind of life as we are being constantly led by the spirit, which is superior and unlike the first life.

So anything that now keeps us under the elemental forces of this world into the bondage of rules and doctrines of men is contrary to the new God kind of life we received.

(Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

Colossians 2:20-23

Stay blessed and remain rapturable

Ajibam:
One more thing..
Don't just preach the word, live it!
Thanks for this piece!

Smile, one more thing, don't just preach d word n live the word, bt be the word!