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OASTITE:
Are domestic animals created for some purpose too?

isotonic:
Yeah Mr sinless righteous perfect pastor, take your righteous self to heaven and leave us "going to hell" alone ok, bye bye!!

isotonic:
Nigerians and religion smh, what exactly makes the act silly? Is it because the hypocrites in society say so? "Confess to your pastor bla bla bla." See the way people are condemning as if they're perfect, sanctimonious holier-than-thou self righteous hypocrites!!

If your friend wants to stop because he wants to stop then fine, he can try weaning himself because habits are hard to break. He'll need time and patience, in the meantime, let him love himself and stop caring what hypocrites think.

God loves us and the evidence of that is in the blood of Jesus, your pastor is not your God. Best of luck to you both

KoloOyinbo:
Do you understand allegory and metaphor? The people of biblical times did. Its merely painting a picture of evil/satan. Please don't take it literally when it mentions 666 etc.

I mean why ever would superstitious nonsense like that be relevant to our God or even to Satan? Leave that rubbish to the juju believing babalawos.

(Probably spelt babalawos wrong but you get the idea).

Christianity is about out relationship with God and our Salvation NOT a set of primitive taboo's and magic numbers fit only for the uneducated.

I say AGAIN and AGAIN what sort of foolish Christian is so uneducated (both temporally and spiritually) to actually believe that a mere number is significant in any manner to God, Satan or salvation?

Ontarget:
Some righteous or church people on this forum wouldn't stop pushing us to abstain from sex till marriage. They always give reasons like: It is a sin and the bible says so so and so. But they wouldn't tell us how to overcome the challenges that comes with abstaining till marriage these days. I agree that sex after marriage is the best solution to curb STDs and unwanted pregnancies but achieving such in the midst of some resisting factors appears to be an uphill task.

Apart from the sexual urges we have to deal with all through the period of abstaining we seem to forget to ask ourselves a certain question. And the question is: WHEN WILL YOU GET MARRIED AND FINALLY HAVE THAT SEX? Marriage in a country like Naija doesn't come cheap especially for the guys. The guys are expected to have a fat bank account first before thinking of marriage. Unfortunately some guys will be unlucky to get that kind of fat bank account at age 45 no matter how hard they have worked. Some ladies will clock 45 and still no signs of a husband coming close. If we must abstain from sex till marriage are we really going to abstain till old age if conditions are not favourable to get marriage? Is there a maximum limit to wait? What happens if you will never get married due to bad luck? Does it mean you will abstain from sex till death? If actually it was CERTAIN that everybody would be getting married at about 25 years old then it would make valid sense for people to wait till marriage.

Secondly, I think insisting on sex till marriage can cause another issue that most of us don't even think about. Due to the excitement of having sex for the first time and all that urge, someone who has been abstaining from sex can easily be tempted and decide to get married unprepared just to have sex to know how it feels. The outcome of this is that marriage crashes due to this unreadiness and kids will be brought to the world to suffer especially when the couple weren't financially ready. I have come across some folks here advising people to get married rather than have sex before marriage. Is it better to get married because of sex and the marriage crashes soon afterwards or is better to have PROTECTED sex before marriage and avoid the suffering a collapsed marriage? If you feel sex before marriage will take you to hell then it means everyone on this planet will end up in hell cos we are all sinning in different ways.

Contributions please.

KoloOyinbo:
Don't understand your comment. I thought things were clear - reducing Christianity to silly uneducated superstitious nonsense is clearly degrading!

666 is evil but 667 is ok. What about 666.00001. See how daft it all is. Look at the message not just a few word taken out of context. It is excellent that Christianity is growing so fast in the developing world but we all need to ensure that is does so without all the ignorant superstitions that some people ascribe to it.

KoloOyinbo:
Don't understand your comment. I thought things were clear - reducing Christianity to silly uneducated superstitious nonsense is clearly degrading!

666 is evil but 667 is ok. What about 666.00001. See how daft it all is. Look at the message not just a few word taken out of context. It is excellent that Christianity is growing so fast in the developing world but we all need to ensure that is does so without all the ignorant superstitions that some people ascribe to it.

KoloOyinbo:
Please do not degrade Christianity with all this 'numerology' nonsense!

hahn:
You remind me of when I was in primary school

hahn:
Lol. You'd have to blame that on religion. It has nothing to do with "end time"

hahn:
I'm actually yet to see the 666 mark on anyone

hahn:
What 666 mark?

hahn:
As well as fake pastors and prophets, right? You seem not to realise that in bible times, something as mundane as driving a car would have seemed as fulfilling the prophecy. It is only natural for knowledge to increase over time and people become less ignorant. In 100years from now, the iphone6 will be so outdated that people will be too ashamed to mention it as state of the art.

The "prophesy" as you put is just to keep you in check. The same "prophets" have skinnier skeletons in their cupboards.

hahn:
What christians don't understand is that the world is never going to end. Your world ends when you die. The elite only put all those rules to keep the masses in check and as a matter of fact, there were more wars in the past and human beings will always remain human beings. Y'all are getting it confused because you now have access to information and get info on China in seconds. Bad things have always been existing because humans have animalistic traits. There's never going to be a time when there's total peace. The best you can get is your peace of heart.

And op, your points are quite myopic

mistabiola:
President Jonathan was a guest at Winners Chapel in Ota Ogun state today and according to people who were there, they claim Pastor Oyedepo said he will 'open the gate of hell on those who oppose the President.






http://lindaikeji..com/2015/01/we-will-open-gate-of-hell-on-thos-who.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

IamDejman:
The Deuteronomy style of Tithing is different to the New testament. Study these verses

Isaiah 43: 18-19
18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.

19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it?...


Hebrews 7:5 -
And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham


Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.


1 Corinthians Chapter 16: 1-2
1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

2 Upon the first [day] of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as [God] hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.


I pray you get inspirations from above in your cause of meditating on it. Amen

CAPTIVATOR:
YES, I believe the bible ! But answer this:

1) what is the spirit in man ?

2) is it the same with the breath of life ??

3) do animals have spirit in them ??

4) do animals possess the breath of life too ??

5) if the spirit in man that returns to God at death is an entity on its own ( that scripture says all spirit returns to God), didnt that means everyone either good, bad, righteous , unrighteous will go to heaven since God dwells in heaven ??

6) Why would the bible say "the dead do not praise God" ( psalm 115:17) IF THEY ARE ALIVE WITH GOD AS SPIRIT IN HEAVEN ??

7) was Jesus in heaven with God, the day his spirit left him ( Luk 23:46) ??

CAPTIVATOR:
WE NEED A WORKING DEFINITION

ACCORDING to your definition, "death" is a transition to another life ! Okay, remember all LIVING THINGS EXPERIENCE " DEATH" ..... So according to ur definition if my Dog experience "death" , it is transferred to another life ?

cirmuell:
"God's purpose for mankind, his intention for creation & future of mankind"- you can never and will never find an answer to this question.



Now, Oluwa is involed in this one lol. You see the issues you raised are more of a spiritual phenomenon than physical, and at that, you may not find a proper explanation(in the physical) as to why those things happened the way they did.

Why other living organisms die? I think the moment those guys (broke the rule/recieved their curses) was the moment everything else took a new turn, more like a chain reaction. I think it's safe to say their actions changed the course of everything else around them.

And again, what if others weren't actually structured to live forever?

CAPTIVATOR:
Define Death ?

davien:
do dead people still have lives?

storitela:
i posted it here because it seems to have a religious contextual formation. Thanks all the same.