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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:14pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: Y
Keep dreaming!
Joseph jnr
Facts are facts
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:11pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: U won't hear take it of leave it. China is farrr better than SA in every way lipsrsealed
Per Capita we are better

Per Capita we are more advanced

Which means: If we had the same population we would be better
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:11pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: South Africa could NOT overcome ordinary Rhino Poaching local hunter invaders from Mozambique, and you has to invite American commandos to save your collapsing world grin grin

Boko Haram level of insurgency will reduce South Africa to another Somalia !

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straw-man argument, all of which is lies and has been disproved

Private men, Private land, Private Capacity for a Private Company for a TV show

Seriously, you are the same guy who said nigeria has Su30's

No one takes you seriously
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:08pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: I don't think that's compulsory. D plate number should do wink
show us the plates
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:05pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: U
China govt spendings $2,021.0 bn
SA govt spendings $101.2 bn
what is per capita?

what is $2,021.0 bn divided by 1.357 billion?
what is $101.2 bn divided by 50 million?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:59pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: ....because your backward rag tag South African Police does not have one of such Jammers to educate you with tongue tongue
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no because i know what a cell phone tower looks like

and i know what a lack of citations look like


your truck doesnt even have police markings
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:52pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: GDP (PPP)

Total : $20,193 trillion (2011 estimate)
China $11,316 trillion
India $4,469 trillion
Russia $2,230 trillion
Brazil $2,178 trillion

GDP (nominal)

Total : $13,316 trillion (2011 estimate)
China $7,298 trillion
Brazil $2,492 trillion
India $1,676 trillion
Russia $1,850 trillion

Area

Total : 38,518,338 km2 (2010 estimate)
Russia 17,075,400 km2
China 9,640,821 km2
Brazil 8,514,877 km2
India 3,287,240 km2

Population

Total : 2,881,877,719 (2011 estimate)
China 1,336,970,000
India 1,210,193,422
Brazil 192,787,000
Russia 141,927,297
BRICS

Not BRIC

You brick
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:51pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: Nigerian Police Electronic Jammer and Command-Control vehicle that South Africa does NOT have shocked shocked

We operate at the level of American police ! http://www.fsvcc.com/swat/

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ok American police have them

But where is your citation that you have one?

Looks like the Nigerian police have nothing more than a mobile cell phone tower to me
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: If you think the story you posted is a minus for Nigerian army, NO ! You are actually showing the world how disciplined we are, South African army gives medals of honour to your soldiers who deserted Bangui for fear of Seleka rebels, and your SANDF Army union was bold enough to publicly protest and refuse government call to return to C.A.R. and fight back at Seleka that disgraced South Africa a whole regional power of SADC....Your in-disciplined army had to shut up for those cowards to have their way.


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1. No one ran away
2. You dont know what desertion is

Will you shoot the 400+ men who ran away into Cameroon as well?

and your SANDF Army union was bold enough to publicly protest and refuse government call to return to C.A.R. and fight back at Seleka

Feel free to post a citation.

Fall into my trap little monkey.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:39pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: So? What does population has to do with it...jex 4get it china ain't SA level...
Per Capita development
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:36pm On Sep 16, 2014
neighy: l0l dont mess with those
limited numbers and unarmed

not impressive
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: he was trying to compare china wit SA
The stats have been posted.

China is a big country of 1 billion. Some parts of it may be more developed than South Africa (Hong Kong etc) but as a whole it is less developed - ie: per capita
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:31pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: You have only 90 men in that special task force, will that save you from 1,000 armed terrorists ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Task_Force_(SAPS)

When situation gets bad, you will call in your army, if you have 10 trouble spots across South Africa's large land mass of about 1.2 million square kilometers, 90 men will NOT even save one small city.

Nigeria Police has Cobra APC and BTR-3U APC that are used by the best European armies around the world, and we have 12.7mm anti-aircraft machine guns, with gas grenade launchers that can paralyze the heavily armed enemy force until we call in the DSS or Army if necessary....
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Blah blah blah

SAPS-STF are elite

There is still the National Intervention Unit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intervention_Unit

Regional Tactical Response Units and below them Public Order Policing Units

and then there is the Amaberete

And I have allready shown you that the SANDF can easily cover any insurgenices in South Africa
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:15pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: South Africa is more developed than Russia and China ? You must be smoking rat poison grin
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see
vdGeist: hmmmm, but SA is the most developed country in the BRICS nations, how can Nigeria ever compete? BRICS is for industrialised countries, and Nigeria ain't one.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:14pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: .

[size=14pt]Comparing Technology of Nigerian Police with that of South African Police tongue tongue tongue
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Nigerian police have a mobile cell-phone mast?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:17pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: dude dose are anti riot police... better dan your task force division ...
u called that your normal police..stop lying
this wat your anti crime squad looks like sef
No

contest

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:12pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: dude dose are anti riot police... better dan your task force division ...
u called that your normal police..stop lying
this wat your anti crime squad looks like sef
The guy in my pic is from the Flying Squad - just a normal cop.

You wanna post pictures of "beat cops"?


lol, ok

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:29pm On Sep 16, 2014
tdayof: ode
- Riot Gear instead of proper ballistic protection
- Miss-matched weapons
- old beat-to-sh1t AK's
- No comms

0/10

Our regular cops are better equipped

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:57pm On Sep 16, 2014
Henry120: Why are you spamming nairaland with multiple handles?

The KC-390 is a medium lift transport plane in the class of the G-222. It's a nice transport plane, but if you're in a desperate need of transport planes like south-africa, it is a waste of resources.

South-africa is also an insignificant member of brics, south-africa only joined brics because they (BRIC) wanted an African representative to make the group look more inclusive. On all indices the BRIC nations are light years ahead of south-africa. Trade between the BRIC nations is also small, neither do the nations have nothing in common politically.** Notice the "BRIC".

Nigeria is a better representative of the continent of Africa, and would continue to be.

Lest i forget, South-Africa is Broke!!!
1. Its BRICS

In 2010, South Africa began efforts to join the BRIC grouping, and the process for its formal admission began in August of that year.[15] South Africa officially became a member nation on 24 December 2010, after being formally invited by the BRIC countries to join the group.[15] The group was renamed BRICS – with the "S" standing for South Africa – to reflect the group's expanded membership.[16] In April 2011, the President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, attended the 2011 BRICS summit in Sanya, China, as a full member.[17][18][19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#Entry_of_South_Africa

2. South Africa is not broke - and has far more financial muscle than Nigeria

South Africa
revenues: $88.53 billion
expenditures: $105.5 billion (2013 est.)

Nigeria
revenues: $23.85 billion
expenditures: $31.51 billion (2013 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

Take a look at our budget, its looking good buddy
http://www.fin24.com/Budget


3. We are a major member of BRICS

In 2010, South Africa officially became a member of BRICS. Compared with the other BRICS countries, South Africa’s size, population, and economy are quite small. Do you think that Nigeria would be more representative of sub-Saharan Africa? What value does South Africa add to BRICS?

BRICS is not decisively about a politico-economic grouping of comparable economic-demographic stature, though that is certainly one of the determining factors in deciding the membership. South Africa’s entry into the BRICS on December 24, 2010, was a Christmas gift to itself. Even though it has a much smaller population and economy as compared to Nigeria, other factors worked in its favour – its vast natural resources such as gold, diamonds and platinum, its excellent infrastructure, its established corporate footprints, a culture of innovation, easy access to finance for business, a stable macro and micro financial climate, an advanced banking system, and functioning regulatory frameworks.

South Africa is already the voice of the continent at various international forums. It is poised to serve as a base as well as a gateway for investment from the BRICS countries to the vast market of a billion Africans.

http://www.fairobserver.com/region/africa/why-south-africa-brics/

4. Brasil and India are not light years ahead of South Africa
5. Trade is not the focus - technology, finance, the stimulus of development and reduced competition are
6. Nigeria does not have the development, technology, financial or political clout to join BRICS

Your post reeks of butthurt

Enjoy being irrelevant

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:25pm On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: Hey dummy, Nigerian army is one of the most disciplined in the whole world ! We don't take nonsense from any soldier !

If there is truly any deserter in Nigerian army, they will be arrested, tried and shot !

The few mutineers of some months ago have been sentenced to death after court martial. I am not happy they will be shot, but Nigerian army has it's laws and they knew the law before they broke law. Sad, but Nigerian army must defend it's law and 150 year old reputation as the most experienced army in Africa.


I am waiting for South Africa to sentence to death ALL your 250 soldiers who ran away from Seleka C.A.R. Bangui as deserters.

Also, I am awaiting for South Africa to sentence to death all your SANDF army union members who refused to go to war against Seleka.

However, from news reports and @THIZA's photos posted here, I am aware that South African army has decided to give medals of honour to it's cowardly deserters, as running away is a sign of Glory and Honour in South African military.....reason why United Nations put your cowardly army under the command on Tanzania and African Union put SANDF under the command of Nigeria in 2015.

The world knows your army is proud of deserters and mutineers, nation of genetic and incurable cowards tongue tongue

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I am waiting for South Africa to sentence to death ALL your 250 soldiers who ran away from Seleka C.A.R. Bangui as deserters.

1. No one ran away
2. You dont know what desertion is

Also, I am awaiting for South Africa to sentence to death all your SANDF army union members who refused to go to war against Seleka.

You tell this lie over and over and it only goes to show your lack of moral fiber.

reason why United Nations put your cowardly army under the command on Tanzania and African Union put SANDF under the command of Nigeria in 2015.

1. UN selected him as they could not afford a South African General's salary
2. Your office monkey AU boy has ZERO South Africans under his command - Infact, Nigeria was barred from taking part of the AU's new elite rapid response formation that is led by... South Africa cool

And, btw, your Army is not 150 years old and you are no where near Africa's most experienced.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:15am On Sep 16, 2014
You boys read the article about the new IMPI system on defenceweb?

Just another thing Nigeria wish they had, and dat connectivity with LinkZA

I cant post the whole article because its a pain on my phone.

But just one paragraph:

Designed from the outset to tough mil-spec criteria, the system was deployed during the multinational Exercise Oxide off the Mozambican coast in September last year as part of a technology demonstration.

Valentine told defenceWeb that during the exercise, there was a case where an incident was simulated that involved a submarine.

“A Parachute Action Group was flown from Waterkloof onboard a SAAF C-130. The aircraft was tracked as well as the Special Forces members aboard the aircraft. They then jumped over the submarine and while they jumped, the parachutists were tracked. Only when they went under the water did we lose the track, but as soon as they popped up from the water, the track was transmitting again,” Valentine recalled.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:09am On Sep 16, 2014
KC-390 just finalized its testing run

And it can carry a Badger.

and Brazil is a BRICS ally

..... interesting
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:06am On Sep 16, 2014
I see one of the Valour Class just returned from joint training exercises Brazil

Note how its not even a big deal for us... meanwhile in Nigeria a huge fuss is made over sending a Customs Boat for a parade in Australia grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:14am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: Fool grin grin

That is the sign of powerful nations that go to war, NAF is at war with jets, South African air force jets have never fought one battle since about 10 years ago SAAF bought Gripen jet and Hawk jet, so how will your jet go missing if you park them safely at the air port and ask your pilots to sleep at home and fvck their wives every night like cowards? Fool grin grin

America too lost just lost a bigger and more powerful jet the F-18 jet training to go fight ISIS terrorists, about the same time Nigeria lost the small Alpha jet.

That shows what we call battle experienced military forces, Nigeria and America are together in that high class now, a prestigious military power club to which South Africa does NOT belong, your SAAF is still writing application to be a servant in that club grin grin

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/14/navy-identifies-pilot-presumed-dead-after-fa-18-hornets-crash/

#SouthAfrican Air Force Is Jobless SleepingAt Home grin grin

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No

just no.

Either

- your jet was shot down by Boko (Something America has not suffered at the hands of INSURGENTS)
- your jet crashed during training, which is a LOW standard, and, destroys your own argument as since when is training the same as war if war experience is superior to training? therefore (by your own argument) it makes your airforce inferior to ours as we constantly train yet dont crash and training is the same as battlfeild experience and hence we are the best experienced africa airforce as we train the most in africa

Are you by any chance drunk?

[size=15pt]Answer my question: has any Nigerian pilot, ever, in all of history, engaged in any Air-to-Air combat? Has any Nigerian pilot even been an Ace? Has any Nigerian pilot even seen an enemy aircraft? you wanna talk prestige? We have 90 years of it! You wanna talk experience? we have 90 years of it![/size]
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:10am On Sep 16, 2014
ChukwuCantDie: Indeed, but the Kwametut guy who has other accounts he posts with on here is just the worst of a bad bunch, most South Africans on Nairaland and in real life are deranged, thats why they are bottom of the world education racking every year. I feel sorry for them.

STAY ON TOPIC.
Education stats have been compared

Nigeria is inferior to South Africa in every single way.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:09am On Sep 16, 2014
ChukwuCantDie: Is this the "Who has the nicest houses thread" or the "Who has the strongest military in Africa thread"? If you want to post non-military rubbish go and create a new thread. Dont change the subject because you know SA can't match Nigeria when it comes to the armed forces, and now you know about our new procurements that SA cannot match you have resorted to posting rubbish in here yet again. you people are too predictable.
1. You are the clown who constantly de-rails this thread with off topic racist nonsense.
2. Nigeria does not come close - even your mythical acquisitions dont match what we actually have
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:07am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust:

No, it's gonna happen in reality, Nigerian air power will R.ape South Africa until your country b.leeds to death
tongue shocked cheesy grin


[img]http://3.bp..com/-MYyH1MvSTbA/U2Xddo3sV9I/AAAAAAAAIRw/iMQhvBOe4GQ/s1600/JF-17.jpg[/img]

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How will 3 J-7 rape 18 Gripen?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:06am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: .
[size=14pt]GRIPEN WILL DESTROY OBSOLETE NAF J-7's...

No Contest.... 3 operational F-7 jet VS 18 operational Gripen jet grin grin

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Fixed that for you
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:05am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: I have even posted those same Gripen videos you talk about, I posted them here, NOTHING to boast about in a Gripen over-priced weak toy!

The Gripen jet air combat maneuverability is very bad, as bad as the F-7 jets grin

Sweden that built the Gripen jet has ZERO war experience since 100 years ago grin

No Gripen jet has ever been used in air to air combat, Su-27 has fought air war with BVR missiles in year 2000.

You mofos could not answer this new NAF challenge for 48 hours, that's why no South African responded until I said you are all afraid !

South African Gripen jets have ONLY one missile each and all short-range missiles, you won't even know which NAF jet to try and fight first, confusion will kill Soweto pilots, some will be running away from Nigerian Su-30 Flanker, trying to find an easier F-7, they end up meeting a JF-17 Thunder...devastating Thunder !!! grin

Nigerian Su-30 will use air combat Cobra movements and Super-maneuverability to d.estroy ALL South African weak Gripen jets grin

Sweden is a fool to build a single engine light aircraft to 'hunt down' a double engined high power high endurance heavy class super combat aircraft....the Gripen hunter will end up becoming the hunted....victim of the Su-30 air monster.

The best combat aircraft ever built for air to air war on this planet, in all aspects combined, is the Su-27/30 Flanker.

Sweden is fooling people saying they built that Gripen toy to hunt down a beast Su-27/30, any marketer can claim anything, like I built Honda Accord Sports Edition to hunt down a Ferrari sports car....Craaaaaazy people....Craaaaazy marketing.....Craaaazy deception grin

Look dude, NAF Vs SAAF, you guys are up against F-7NI jets + JF-17 Thunder jets + Su-30 Flanker jets....Oh my God !

Nigeria is gonna Mass R.ape South Africa D.oggy style oooooohhhhh ! grin grin

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1. You have never proved that Gripen Maneuverability is bad - so that is a lie
2. War experience is irrelevant, and Gripen flew combat missions over Libya - so that is a double lie
3. No F-22 Raptor has ever been used in air-to-air combat, it is still the best fighter in the world - so that is another lie
4. Nigeria has no JF-17's, no Su-30's and only 3 operational J-7's... and we have more than 3 missiles cool
5. Su-30 cannot perform a Cobra maneuver at anything other than low speed and low altitude - its not even a combat maneuver - yep you guessed it, another lie.
6. What is the relationship between weight, inertia, speed and maneuverability? Somebody cannot remeber high-school physics?

The best combat aircraft ever built for air to air war on this planet, in all aspects combined, is the Su-27/30 Flanker.

Nope, that is not how you spell F-22 Raptor

Look dude, NAF Vs SAAF, you guys are up against F-7NI jets + JF-17 Thunder jets + Su-30 Flanker jets....Oh my God !

No, we are up against 3 J-7s. That is all.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:59am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: .
[size=16pt]Since NAFs new jets appeared, South Africans have been tactically avoiding this forum, they jump over all the Su-30 Flanker and JF-17 Thunder posts/comments as if they did not see them here, since 2 days ago o !

Fear and Shock has paralysed Soweto Republic grin grin grin[/size]

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Nope, we simply are not going to wast our time arguing about things that Nigeria does not have

Just like the Tucanos
Just like the T-72's
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:58am On Sep 16, 2014
agaugust: This is your next shock after the Mi-35M Hind E, MGL and Norinco LG3 AGL....we will continue to shock you South Africans !

Everything on this thread/topic will change now, Nigeria has got the game changers, Su-30 Flanker + JF-17 Thunder k.ill masters !

Nigeria now has world class air power force projection into your SADC zone with our Su-30 Flanker jets shocked shocked

NAF will sink the whole South African Navy, wipe out your over-rated Air Force, consume your HIV Army. Mandela will nearly wake up ! shocked shocked

https://rikd.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/su-30-mk.jpg
[img]http://www.anninhthudo.vn/Uploaded/Ngoctoan/2013_02_24/images619536_12.jpg[/img]

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You have neither JF-17s or Su30's

This is going to be just another Tucano fiasco.

Your click-bait bloggist starts unfounded rumors and you humiliate yourself by claiming to have things that you dont have.

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