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ActivateKruger:
He's also a military researcher and lately a Bitcoin trader.

He fell for the bit-meme

Covert1:
In your head of course and making your life difficult via tutelage that what exists on paper or your videos for your military are not actual realities which have not in modern times been replicated in a real battle situaton which the day you start growing up to grasp will make life easier for you.

"Things that you constantly do in training, are not things you can actually do"

lol, ok.

So what are your credentials?

lionel4power:
Everything is hush-hush concerning your Hawks.


But the Hawks themselves don't have radar I'm I correct?


There was actually a time the British used their Hawks as a second line of defense.

No, the data is transmitted digitally via Link-ZA (data-link) from nearby sensor nodes, be it ground based radar or Gripen and then displayed for the pilot like in any normal jet.

I am not sure as to just what capabilities this provides, I would assume it allows the Hawk to employ radar-guided weaponry as it can now feed targeting data to the weapon. I do know however that the Hawk 120 can fire IR missiles as standard.

Hawk and Grip dropping ordinance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUhUl-ml-E

Hawk bombing runs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9AEHbswjug

That maneuver though

lionel4power:
Is your Hawks weaponized, I have never come across a picture of it carrying bombs. Care your share any??

More than just "weaponized"

It uses link-ZA to form a "radar" that allows it to engage air-to-air targets, either for training (by simulating the targets) or for actual combat

ATE explains that the radar simulation air-to-air target generation has two modes: Virtual formations can be generated within the system itself and simulated as radar targets. This function allows for single-aircraft radar simulation exercises. Secondly, up to eight co-operating aircraft can acquire each other as radar targets through Link ZA, a digital network protocol that uses one of the Hawk's three Reutech Defence Industries ACR500 U/VHF radios. Link ZA ensures that every aircraft continuously transfers positional data to every other. This data is then processed by the mission computer on the co-operating aircraft in the network to render a real-time radar page. Displayable on any of the six multi-function displays (MFDs) in the LIFT's tandem glass cockpit, the radar page provides the pilot with radar target information, as if the aircraft were fitted with a real fire control radar system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVX-IW8GHF0

In the above video you can see something rarely talked of - a 30mm auto-cannon (Aden gun-pod) mounted on the Hawk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo07sE-UVko

In the above video you can see the SAAF Hawk using the 30mm on ground attack, with impressive accuracy

kikuyu1:
Wow! So Saffas had a Marine brigade til 1990! I had no idea. Especially when its now only a 2 coy unit.

Yep, and here they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrfksGA5kY

jln115:
Was using Angola as an example since that was the country Lionel4power was using as an example.

In terms of the discussion me and Lionel were having(that you rudely interrupted) the actual ability for SAAF to attack Angola is completely irrelevant.

Moot point,

The discussion has already been had RE: Angolan Su-30K v Gripen - I believe a senior member of 2 Squadron did a presentation while as a notable South African defence analyst wrote an article on the topic.

I believe the conclusion was that if the Gripen were armed with BVR missles, the Angolans would lose. But without BVRM the Gripen would (obviously) lose. In the hypothetical example BVRM specifications and logistical issues were excluded as variables.

It came down to tactics and employment.

Covert1:
I am your citation.

What are your credentials?

Covert1:
[s]Because I know and I owe you no explanation. I don't work for you. I know my allegiance.[/s]

So you have no evidence? Just your own imagination?

Dude, this is beyond pathetic.

jln115:
Namibian commando:

It bothers me, that picture.

Dude is jumping with a rig worth thousands of dollars. Yet he is armed with a hundred dollar AK.

Same applies to RSA.

Covert1:
The NNSBS is SEAL qualified for the full-spectrum of all special Ops in any terrain or weather. They are the best in this region. No one comes close. That I can tell you. Except someone leaks something I have no official source for you since much of what they do is officially classified.

So how do you know if its classified?

Covert1:
You don't get the NNSBS badge without SEAL level qualification and that includes HAHO/HALO, submarine operations and under water demolitions and combat etcetera. The NNSBS also incorporates courses for qualification not only peculiar to the US Navy SEALS.

Source pls

Covert1:
We know what we have.

Ok, provide a source then

ssaengine:
You want a country not at war with anyone, not even publicly arguing with anyone, to have 15+ Gripen hot and ready to takeoff within the next 30 mins? Lmao

I've never really read through your posts on here, but I always assumed you knew what you were talking about. You would be hard pressed to find any air force not currently involved in operations, with more than 60% of it's fighter fleet ready at any moment.

I think the Germans are even below 50% at the moment.

Germans are sub 30% mate.


I think their helo fleet was running at something like 10%. I will look it up on my lunch break.

Covert1:
Tell me you s.ick. Yes you are. You insult yourself and still have the temerity to ask a question. I'll recommend you for some help.

Ok,

but post the source of your information pls.

Why do you always run when we push you for facts?

lionel4power:
That's abysmal considering....

Note offense

The full squadron is operational. Link was posted earlier.

In the past having the squadron run at limited strength is actually not as abysmal as you think considering the context.

Henry240:
I'm not here to prove anything to you. I only shared that picture for educational purposes.

Whatever you choose to agree or disagree with is of no importance.

1. Posts picture relevant to a current discussion, claims HALO
2. Turns out it isnt
3. "I... I am just posting a picture"

The eternal coward.

Covert1:
NNSBS regime involves months of training for SEAL capability qualification which includes HAHO/HALO. That's the much I can say.

It does exist in Nigeria. It is rare.

Proof pls.

Odunayaw:
Except you want recorded conversations.

The fellow that told me passed SBS BOC/C 5 and had his HALO/HAHO in 2014 in Pakistan.

I really wish there was pictures

I think the thing is that we are talking about "units" qualified for HAHO/HALO and the domestic capacity to train units in HAHO/HALO

No doubt there are a number of your operators who received such qualifications while training abroad.

Covert1:
at the recent NAF day celebrations some of these guys skydived from a C-130 Hercules at over 10,000 feet above sea level in bad weather.

Source?

Covert1:
[s]Meanwhile with all the noise and no action translated on to a real-life battle situation from military pretenders who could do nothing about Zimbabwe, DRC, Burundi, Madagascar and has left the SADC drifting with totalitarian semantics—The Nigerian Air Force along with it's sister services the Army and Navy are getting the job done with proven assets from Africa's most extensive satellite capability to Africa's most sophisticated ISR capability to unmanned precision strike capability and sustained Air-RECCE & Interdiction in real-life battle spaces through direct military intervention and or military diplomacy/gunboat diplomacy (show of force/threat of the use of force) to get hardened dictators and non-state actors to acquiesce and capitulate to do Abuja's bidding as we saw in The Gambia and elsewhere in furtherance of Nigeria's national security imperatives which centerpiece is peace and security of the homeland and continent of Africa.[/s]

"We duh best cuz we got dat C-130 drop dem 12 guys in Gambia"

You are a literal child.

Covert1:
I'd have obliged you but it's all over the internet. I'll suggest Reuters and RFI but won't go further in honor of the SA 'Paras' KIA.

Why are you running away?

Have you reached that awkward point where your imagination runs into a wall of fact?

SAD!

SANDF C-130, agressive landing for TALO operation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQBGDsakXbM

South Africa's air-mobile formation:

6 South African Infantry Battalion (Regular)
First City Regiment (Reserve)
Prince Alfred's Guard (Reserve)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uASOVNyePqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhgevxhNwZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG8K15ScZX8

South African Marines


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6EuhVuVhto


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABacLwdmAro

Here we see the SANDF conducting a TALO operation, a capacity that few to none Sub-Saharan nations have

A demonstration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHl4EWHA2zQ?t=46s

and an exercise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6-q_Po_4po

Do we thus proclaim "da best in da africa!"

No, because we arent children and because there is nothing to gain from disrespecting and undermining fellow African's.

Henry240:
Off-course the Nigerian Air Force has a long way to go. I'm also not bragging, not just platforms, welfare of officers, operational effectiveness, healthcare, housing, schools, training which Air Force in sub-Saharan Africa has better service than the Nigerian Air Force?

Are you being serious?

Covert1:
Poised tri-service combatant forces of Africa's giant and largest economy Nigeria capable of multi-spectrum warfare not on paper but in undeniable real-life deployments & operations.

Can you cite examples of air-mobile operations for us?

"b..but we used a C-130 to transport some guys from A to B"

No, actual air-mobile operations - paradrops, air-assault etc