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Dr. Ogba !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

achi4u: @op,once intelligent always intelligent,thatz not the end of the road.
I hate to see ppl parading a result they cannot even defend,so if you know you're self (IQ level per se),u must make it.

Remeber a man who cannot smile shouldnot open a shop.

I rather empoly a man who can smile than one with rough/stone face(Dale Carniege)

abeg still keep reading motivational books.

...as 4me,i've neva sett my foot on any higher learning but promise myself to emback on that jonny.

it's so obvious from all your posts on NL. Education sure makes a BIG difference.

achi4u: none of the above.

fuk ooff

undoubtedly a Lagosian. very aggressive. they are not difficult to spot.

NL's

Can you rate Nigerian cities in terms of Quality of Life [QOL] taking into consideration parameters like security, social amenities, industrialisation, standard of living, Health, cost of living, serenity of environment and satisfaction perceived by inhabitants of the cities. I understand it may be difficult summing up all these factors into one and generalising, but let us look at all parameters on general note and draw conclusions. I have not travelled to many cities but have been to quite a reasonable number. Assuming you want to recommend cities for someone who's been living abroad and wishes to relocate to naija. cities where you can sleep with both eyes closed, drive your cars without the shocks being destroyed by bad roads, go to hospitals and be sure you'll see a dr on ground who'll attend to you with respect and regard whilst nurses won't yell at you as if it's a crime to seek consultation. cities where thugs don't lay abush for innocent drivers before dusk or even in broad day light. cities where you can go to market and get fresh groceries affordable, good & cheerful teacher's in school, cities with well planed housing estates e.t.c How will you rate/rank cities

I think I'll rank thus:

1. Uyo [the road network, neatness, friendliness of people around and security]
2. Calabar [very organised, will pass on all indices you chose to put on the table]
3. Abuja [good, may score low on security in recent times, cost of living high but social amenities top]
4. Asaba [amasing, habitable, neat, cosy & secure]
5. Owerri [really above average on all parameters you bring up, nice & clean]

can you post pix pls?

pls send pix to minajkindy@yahoo.co.uk

post better pictures na. u just snapped someone elses car parked in front of a supermarket, masked the number plate and you are here jostling for a gullible buyer.

they are NOT through with Nigeria yet.

Really sad tale. I am not exactly a car dealer on NL. I am not qualified to be described as one, but I've sold 2 cars here. as a matter of fact the last was a Benz C-class which I published the VIN for ratification. I must say that till date, the buyers remain extremely delighted they bought the cars. No problems whatsoever. the guy who bought the benz travelled all the way from ife to Lagos to pay and pick up the car, finished his transaction early enough, got the car registered the same day and drove back to ife the same day. he called to also attest to the fact that he enjoyed his ride home. we are now friends and he still asks about when next I'll bring in another ride. in essence, there are still honest dealers on NL

OP's case is quite pathetic but my question is why would anyone ignore warning lights on a car dashboard? are those who designed it foools? you dont expect the car to scream with voice hitting the roof that it's sick. the car has communicated with you in the best way it can that you should steer clear. what do you expect?

same old story.


na today?

[quote author=Miss_Ife]Tks, I think 5-6m a yr, without school fees and initial settling costs (plane tickets, buying car, furnishing the house etc.) seems a realistic budget from what I've read so far. It seems it would be more expensive living on the island. At least this post made me reconsider that aspect. Since my job will most probably be on the island, I'll have to make a couple of trips there to look at other options concerning housing.[/quote]you don't need that much without school fees. the posts you've read here are just exaggerated estimates.

accommodation:............................... 2m
school fees/annum (2 kids?) 500k X2.......... 1m
feeding 200 X 12..............................2m
others........................................1m
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total 6m
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finito!

kalufelix: I'l stick out ma neck dat d op must be one ugly b1.tch...mtcheew

a cheap 1 at that. serzly our generation is a lost one if these are the future wives. smh

Innoson' the name alone sounds funny.

anyway, if they are confident of their product, i see no reason why they should be hesitant to go commercial via aggressive advertisement. the most important question is ' do these vehicles meet safety standards?' how efficient are safety features like airbags, warning signals on dash etc

captalex: No need to wait till ten before you begin your speeding stunt.by 7 when most of all leave the office,we fire the car all the way past osborne,I don't even wait to buy plantain chips anymore.

^^^

reason for sale? pls send more pix to minajkindy@yahoo.co.uk. wanna get it for my cousin. hope no probs with gear box? can you accept 600k?

I saw all these coming before I left LASUTH. I quietly saved all I earned from the miserly paltry peanut they call salary and left for the UK. things may not be all that rosy in the UK but to some extent, it's better. those criticising dr's should try and understand things from their perspective rather than supporting Fash in his intransigence.

Doctors in Nigeria [particularly the teaching hospitals] work like elephants but eat like ants. while I worked in LASUTH, I attend to practically 100-150 patients daily. Imagine resuming work as early as 8a.m [you dare NOT resume late because even before your consultants criticise you, the patients are already murmuring, and some go as far as dialing Alausa to complain that there is no doc on ground to attend to them], once seated, you hardly have time to go for breakfast. what we had daily was brunch around 2 pm that's if you are lucky to squeeze out time and you must gulp down the food as fast as possible in order to rush back to your duty post.

Nurses wear a long face all day due to the pressure of the work load which isn't any easier for dr's either. I get home so knackered as if i fought iron Mike Tyson. living as a bachelor didn't make things any easier . once this so called controversial salary gets credited, haaaa!!!! I turn into a mathematician with calculator applying all the principles of integration and differentiation to see if the miserable amount can saddle my bills. for where na? you hardly deduct three basic needs before your calculator starts showing you figures in the negative. I asked myself 'for how long am i gonna continue like this'? HOW LONG? and that was just enough to zoom off!

if LSG continues in this manner, they'll only keep on losing docs and it will tell so much on the health care system. go see health indices published by WHO and UN. the figures dont speak good about the quality of health care in the country and things might even get worse with this move because before you know it, other state govt will adopt Fashola's rigid & inconsiderate strategy. the result will only be massive exodus of dr's. that will spell doom for the system already in bad shape.

calculus:

needed :

2003 or 04 Honda Accord ASAP

this space can accommodate the 300 pictures..and it's free!

what facilities do you have in the 2 bed flat? tiles? 2T/2B? parking space? water in compound? gated compound? how many tenants in compound? large sitting room?

if you have pix pls send to minajkindy@yahoo.co.uk

moremi2008: Please, stop thanking him for ignorant, conflicting opinions. He mistakes chaos for freedom. A civilization that aspires towards greatness must have enforceable laws. With the same mouth Lastpage has used to complain about collapsed buildings in Lagos, he will use to rant against building codes in the West. With the same mouth he has used to complain about the ease with which politicians launder stolen loot in Nigeria, he will use to complain against anti-money laundering laws in the West. With the same mouth he has used to complain against child abuse in Nigeria, he will use to complain about child protective services in the West.

Having no laws is NOT freedom! Until we get beyond this type of mentality, Nigeria will remain a backward place that has not lived up the promise it showed in the decade after Independence.

are you saying we should be shackled up in stringent laws because we want civilisation?

Last page, you too much!

in addition:

In Nigeria, you can pay your family member or friend a surprise visit, here you must give notice else, you are not welcome! - that is freedom

In Nigeria, NEPA could come disconnect your source of power and you sweet talk them out of disconnecting you, here , you dare not - that is freedom

In Nigeria, you can catch your fun with your home theatre at home , blasting 'konga-aso' here, you'll host the police courtesy of neighbours dialing their number - that's freedom

In Nigeria, you buy a TV, get home, plug into the socket and watch your channels for free, here, you must get a TV licence or go to jail - that's freedom


the list endless abeg!

2004

BlueDiva: How is food expensive in Nigeria?
I have lived in both worlds and i know the prices of food here and there.

People can eat a decent meal with 300 naira here.
You don't have to spend 2000naira eating a meal at KFC or TFC.



Rhetoric question dummy.
Who really cares how many pence can feed you in a day?

Imported doesn't mean she has to literally import the food items.
Imported foods are sold at every corner and are almost the same price you find in any UK shop.



It's different.
The intent is what matters.

your analysis is always relative. what do you define as 'decent meal'. in any case, what you consider as decent may be regarded by another as indecent.


ok, lets go by your analysis , N300 X 3meals a day = N900 daily

N900 daily X 30 days = N27, 000

now, someone referred to a family of 5, which gives you nearly 140k. but you criticised his 150k which is almost £600 i.e £150 more than earlier mentioned/estimated £450.

so where the basis for your argument?

knowing fully well this analysis isn't viable. food still remains the most expensive in Niaja. a family of 5 in UK can hardly finish £450 even if you decide to go on exclusively Naija food that is notoriously expensive in UK

tboy1: I think this depends how the individual or his/her family are comfortable in UK. If you make well enough money and appreciate simple things like security,electrity,good roads etc then you really need to have a very good reason to leave UK for Lagos (unless you are guaranteed to be presented better standard of living when you move back)

guy, the boredom here no get part 2. outside London and Manchester, the others na boredom empire.

BlueDiva: People just throw figures around when they have no clue.
Do you spend 450pounds on feeding your family in a month?

I wouldn't query your figures if you had not added the word AVERAGE

he may be right. Food is more expensive in Nigeria.. conversely, in the UK, food remains the cheapest thing so far.

coogar: so what makes you think you can't be called a nigger in lagos?
confused much?

it's different when the one who calls you nigga* is also one.

Chinom: How do you intend to build that house while living in the US or UK ?. Building a house in Nigeria while sitting on your lazy backside in US will cost you twice the normal amount. Here is my advice to you. Your husband has to move first.Find a very cheap accomadation, move in there and then start the construction of a new house.If the funds are available, he can finish the house within a year. Relocating to lagos is all about feelings.You can never have all the situations under controle. The traffic, noise and heat are beyond your controle. But there's no other place on this planet, i would rather be in than Lagos. That feeling of Freedom is not quantifiable.

debosky: I guess it all depends on how you define freedom - is freedom for example being stuck in hours of unpredictable traffic daily with few alternatives except moving to very expensive locations, often worrying about robbery and other forms of assault? Or is it being able to choose to drive, cycle, take the train or bus and little/no worry about robbery and assault?

Or is it the freedom to build your home to the exact specs you require close to family and friends compared to getting a humongous mortgage that lasts 25 years?

I do agree with you that you should have clarity on the situations you can control and those you can't. Once you are realistic from the onset, there chances of disappointment at reduced?

you just emphasized the fact that it's a subjective concept. I refer you to an analysis by 'lastpage' on this same thread in which he used Abraham Maslow's theory of needs. Nothing beats that explanation. - - the need to be with your own people, cultural integration,feeling at home, socialisation within a cultural context, self-actaulisation. that in its entirety is ''freedom''.

davidylan: why would anyone want to relocate to nigeria?
If you cant make it in the west then its not likely you will make it in nigeria except of course the intention is to win government contracts by crooked means.
Security, good roads, availability of basic amenities... just a few of the things money cant buy.

this is the same irksome question you get from many deluded Nigerians. My answer to them is the good old saying ''who no go, no know'' why wouldn't anybody want to relocate to Nigeria. both sides have their advantages and disadvantages if you must know but when the chips are down I bet you, you'll remember the saying that the devil you know is better than the one you don't know. It's much better to fight in a familiar terrain - you can easily wriggle your way out. Before I travelled, I diss Naija so much, but now, I've learnt the only problem Naija has is disorderliness and disorganisation. apart from that, naija is better I must say. if only corruption can be fixed, I don't think any Nigerian has any business abroad. many may move but they'll do so quite reluctantly.

What is there to cherish in this place [Uk] where I work and you slash my pay by almost half by your so called income tax, another half of the remainder goes into accommodation and bills. . in the end, you are practically saving nothing. . sometimes, you discover the pay is just huge on pay slip but when the tax hatchets starts landing on your pay, what is left with you isn't any better than what you were earning back home before travelling. now you ask yourself why why why? did I leave . so, for those who think once you are abroad, you become a money king, it's high time you started having a re-think and a re-orientation about this abroad gamble. it's not really as rosy as they paint it o! the only thing I see is just the fact that you'll habitate a clean and organised society. that's all... but if that's what matters to you, why not move to decent places in Nigeria like lekki, Ajah, Gbagada, VI, etc.

minajkindy@yahoo.co.uk

no pix?