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@Wakes, with your grade [3.5 i.e 2.2] I'm very sure you can secure an admission for MPH in Uk. I also did MPH as i have a medical background. sadly, I am not so sure if 3.5 can guarantee you a scholarship. please see this link : http://cscuk.dfid.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/prospectus-shared-scholarships-2012.pdf.

if you are coming to the UK, you DO NOT need GRE/TOEFL. news reaching me however indicates that the UK may soon introduce IELTS as a necessary pre-requisite for foreign students. I am not so sure of when exactly it will take effect. if you need further information, feel free to mail me


minajkindy@yahoo.com

tanimola22: You did not generalize, yet you said I recommended Naija Universities over those in the UK. Very nice conclusion. I wonder why you keep on attacking the quality of my education. You don't even know me, nor have you seen the quality of my work. Anyway, you see Mr, I am not here to drag UK issues with you, and I will definitely not be forced to prematurely declare anything. Please read my post very well.

As a last response to your post, I will reiterate that I 'do not' hold the UK high up there, definitely 'not' because of academic quality.

The last time I lived in the UK, the language of anything was the English language. Perhaps things have changed, I would not know sha.

This thread is meant to answer a specific question asked by a poster and other related questions asked by other posters.

If you have any contribution, please go ahead and make it. And thank you very much for letting me know that the United States of America is a continent. I thought the US was a country in North America.

T22.

ahamdiheme:
It is not fear but being real. The UK schools are not bad but why pursue something I have to pay so much for when I can get the same and most times better for free? Please correct me if I wrong but I do not think emphases are made on publishing work in the UK. I know it is three years but again why should I do a PhD, pay so much for it and at the end there is no single publication to my name? I rather spend 4-5 years and come out with top notch publications that will earn me Assistant Prof. upon completion.

@T22: I'm not relegating the quality of your education. you are taking it too personal. we are here to make valid contributions and not sway comments. sometimes people like you push me above the walls to make statements I ought not to make. for instance, here is another fellow researcher in Turkey [ahamdiheme], just the same way I challenged your statements, I also challenged his...but guess what, your approach to the questions have rather been uncouth and your responses garnished with so much resentment. on the other hand, the same question I asked you is the same question I have asked ahamdiheme. unlike you, he clearly pointed out why he will not recommend the UK by pointing out cost of education and the privileges of publication. it's as simple as that. just lay your cards on the table. when it comes to rationalising issues, i just dont know why people take a pugnacious dimension. well, like you rightly pointed out, I dont know you and I dont care to know you - whether you see America as a universe or whatever, go hug a transformer if you cannot engage in intellectual debates.

@ Ahamdiheme:

i must say it's not always the case. for instance, if you explore the opportunities for a scholarship, you may get one. I'm pretty sure about this as I am currently benefiting from one with stipends to go with. I dont pay a dime as tution. meanwhile, it may also amaze you to know that some of these positions get advertised without applicants knowing about it or turning up to receive such grants. sometimes, the problem with prospective researchers is getting the right information and being alert to advertisements for such opportunities particularly students from developing countries. you cannot imagine how much is often set aside to assist students from developing countries via scholarships and grants, but they hardly know about it.

secondly, that you cannot publish as a researcher is a misconception. im currently working towards having 2 publications before im through. again, your final thesis is almost always submitted for a publication if you desire. there are many opportunities for publications here. as a matter of fact, I know of many MSC students with one publication already.one is a friend who finished from Uniben with a first class deegree in mathematics. he subsequently came to the Uk for MSC ; University of Loughborough and made a distinction, he's currrently in his final year PHD [fully funded by the british govt] and already has 2 publications. so please, varify the sources of your information lest you be misguided in your decisions. your PhD thesis, if published [provided you submit it as no one will hold you under duress] will always have your name first, then the name(s) of your supervisor(s).

ahamdiheme: A PhD is definitely the first step. Just like T22 pointed out, I rather obtain a PhD from the US, Australia or Canada. Some of the schools even require that you publish a top journal paper before completion of your PhD. If you have a journal publication(s) it is very likely that you also have top quality conference contributions too. The publications are evidence that you have contributed to knowledge and that is what a lecturer should do. So the number of quality publications you have will boost your chances of being employed as a lecturer any where in the world.

I am presently an Engineering PhD student in Turkey and it is far better than Nigeria. It is possible to do your research under the guidance of a professor who has funding for his research work. Such professors advertise positions like job openings so if you make a nice application, you can get accepted by the professor and most likely by the university as well. The thing to do is, identify a University, then the department, then faculty members. Most faculty members have a webpage where they announce all sort of stuff including open positions in research projects for PhD students (Some even want Masters students as well). The pay is usually just enough, call it a stipend if you like. The good thing is you do not have to pay huge the tuition fees while you do your research.

I am not sure but I do not think we have any internationally recognized journal in Nigeria so a lot of the Nigerian based researchers have publish stuff that are not even good enough for an international conference. I strongly discourage a PhD in Nigeria, an MSc or MA is bad enough! With good grades and a thorough search you can find a good school in Europe or America with funding. Again, funding opportunities in the UK are very limited and the tuition fees are sky high.

I want to continue research but I know it is not far from being a lecturer so I do not mind lecturing either.

I wish you all the best!

I can see a lot of students are really scared of coming to the UK. why is the UK not in your list?

your second coments in red:

infact, I couldn't have said it better. I find it very difficult to accept validity and reliability of any piece of PhD thesis written in Nigeria. I'm really sorry to say but it's the painful truth. it often lacks depth and quality. more often than not, the principles and precepts of the research paradigms are carelessly flung out through academic windows with utmost disregard. . original contribution to knowledge = Zero! it's just so frustrating!

tanimola22: I have not read your write-up, but I quickly saw two things. One, could you show me where I asked people to choose Naija Universities over UK Universities? How could you quickly conclude that I repudiated UK research programs? Two, have you allowed me finish the article I said I wanted to write about the UK?

In all regard for a fellow researcher, I must say you just committed an error of quick generalization or judgment. I know why I hold the UK not too high there,definitely not[size=8pt][/size] because of academic quality. Even my grandmother knows that the worst schools in the UK are superior to Naija schools.

Please let me end and don't say what I never declared.

Thank you,
T22.

to the above statement in RED

1. I have not generalised in anyway. this is a qualitative dialogue and i've just interpreted your comments. there's no generalisation in qualitative approach [rule of thumb] mind you. I'm equally sure I've not drawn wrong inferences from your transcript. you clearly advised prospective researchers to steer clear without stating valid reasons. as a researcher, I'll label you as being biased. your likes will sample data to suit the end result they wish to achieve. objectivity will eventually get defeated - and this a typical reflection of the kind of studies we have back home. you have extended such prejudice to this forum. I challenge you once again to summarily state valid reasons buttressed with sufficient evidence why you will NOT recommend the Uk.

2. your second statement highlighted in red sounds so nebulous. the UK is known for outstanding journals and publications. go check the world best universities and see how UK universities compete keenly for top posts with American UNis. mind you, the Uk isn't a continent and north America is one . yet, their impact in standardised education is felt not just in Europe, but all over the world. I'm not advertising UK schools, I'm just being objective based on experience.

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@T22

in as much as your comments have been insightful to some concerned members of the forum with respect to this topic, i take a demur on your bias about the UK. if I may ask, what exactly is the basis for repudiating UK PhD programmes. you described it as a 'no go' zone to prospective researchers. please nail your colours to the mast and be very objective in doing so. I am currently a PhD student in Uk and I can confidently recommend the UK to ANYONE who is willing to pursue a research degree. their research protocol is thorough and all schools here in the UK build studies solidly on consolidated research paradigms. social research has gone beyond what you think. as far as i'm concerned, if what i'm facing here currently is used as a 'touchstone', i can boldly conclude without reservations that most research publications in Nigeria are not just worth it. forget the copy and paste studies you glorify in Nigeria Universities. how many of such studies meet international requirements and standards, yet you recommend Nigerian universities over Uk. Guy, I can't believe those words actually came out from you. I'm ashamed of you if you are currently doing a research in Unilag.

to many out there who wish to conduct any piece of research thoroughly with adequate supervision and those who hope to gain indepth knowledge about contemporary research paradigms, the UK is the place to be. others include US, Canada, Australia, Netherlands, Germany e.t.c. I'll encourage you to take that bold step and apply. you can get funds if you try. mine is fully funded. all i can say is brace up yourselves because it's really tough, challenging and demanding..but you'll be glad you did. there are up to date data analysis softwares here in the Uk..name it, SPSS, Envivo, EPI-info etc. you'll save yourself good time because the duration of the programs usually take 3yrs in contrast to 4yr program in US and 7yrs in Nigeria! - due to strike and unwarranted delays/frustrations from Nigerian supervisors. I am not trying to paint a grim picture of the quality of studies in Nigeria here, but wait a minute, if the truth must be told and if we are sincere with ourselves, we all know what is obtainable in Nigeria as far as education is concerend. I've seen the difference and i must tell you all who care to listen that we have a LONG way to go in that country!

with these kind of people, Nigeria is FINISHED!! there's not a glimmer of hope left. talking of gargantuan corruption, You take the cake bro !!!! what do you take civil service for? with this your level of reasoning,I'm beginning to wonder how you graduated and how you managed to secure the job. wahala dey Nija o!

wow! nice thread. Javalove..thanks for sharing.

don't really know where to start from, but I must say..i had an austere childhood, lived an ascetic life all through teenage years. attending a single sex school and living in a neighbourhood congested with the hoipoloi even made matters worse. uni days were fraught with so much challenges. hence, I hadn't the opportunity to blench at the thought of affording these wonderful experience. sometimes, I just wish i could turn back the years and bask in youthful/teenage romance.

well, service days came and I tried making up for lost time. I was more or less emotionally catatonic having come so far without such experiences. what can a helpless bro do? i tried catching my fun in my own little way - had some meaningless dalliances devoid of emotional attachments. perhaps it all happened that way because I was more or less rigid..or call it naivete.

be that as it may, it was time to move forward after service year. I was back to Lagos from sokoto. hired a liliputian but cosy apartment and was ready to get kicking. guess the goddess of romance smiled at me when I met Vivian; a 200level unical student then [5years ago] she was home in Lag for the holls. she was prolly sent from the third heavens to me..perhaps to compensate me for the years of deprivation in this regard .she was all i could wish for in a lady and even more! I had gone to her sales outlet [shop] to make call with their paid phone which she opeates along her mums gift shop. we got chatting. days later, I passed by the shop and exchanged pleasantries with her. we got chatting again. gradually, we became very close, exchanged numbers and with emotions building up, our relationship snowballed deep into midnight calls. thanks to MTN. . we exchanged calls almost on daily basis. occassionally, i'll pop into her mums shop [where she assists] asking after her. at a time, her mum realised my intentions [and may be her daughters inclinations towards me as well because mums can be very smart.. ] but she was cool and friendly. sometimes, she'll encourage me to feel free, sit down and wait for Vivian particularly if she sent her on a little errand and was sure she'ld be back in a couple of minutes. never seen such an understanding woman. however, i bungled the whole thing. shame on me! all this while we talked on phone [and for over a year] I didn't tell her about my feelings for her.

i was wasting too much time and i knew it. At a time, she summoned the courage and insinuated her feelings for me, albeit delicately in her statements when we talked on phone. for instace, while having a chat, she might just chip it in sayng..''you know how much I like you na'' and stuffs like that. to me, that was enough green light, but I was just scared! scared shit of commitment. again,i felt every relationship had it's demand on finance and more to it than just the romance dimension. she wasn't and never asked me for money though but I just had this inexplicable cold feet i couldn't figure why. I had just finished service and was innundated with that desperate search for a plum job,could hardly afford basic needs though looking good and putting up an appearance , facing the future with so much uncertainty. guess, i hesitated too much..and then came the bombshell..her step dad [as her mother re-married] got transferred to Calabar from Lagos. in as much as this was some good news for her because it meant she'll be closer to Uni, it was bad news for me..it spelt the distance out in capitals. we kept in touch though through phone calls...but it was never going to be the same again. then the call rate dwindled, dropping by the day, fading out and ebbing off gradually. then finally, all I could hear was that lethargic,pathetic,sluggish and tardy sounding female voice...

''the number you have dialled is not available at the moment, please try again later''



I have also since relocated abroad and changed number. she doesn't have my current number as I have not been able to reach her. i have made several futile attempts to search for her on facebook. i still catch glimpses of her smile in my fantasies. my soft spoken angel with deep sense of humour..i really miss you Viv. pls if you are reading this, try find your way back to me via this thread. I still care babe.

your post alone shows you are not confident enough to handle this. you sound apprehensive already and that's a red flag. just take it slow - that's my plain advice.

please tell me this story isn't true. did you make this up? has morality degenerated this badly? pls OP tell us it's an excerpt from a nollywood script. abeg!

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OP,



nairaland is not faceless afterall..

OP, fYI: i know you & I know the guy in question



anyway, I wouldnt advise you to condescend that low. however, if you are serious about this, can we talk: minajkindy@yahoo.com

just wondering how people adjudicate issues of this sort with sparse and fragmented account which makes little or no sense. obviously even a m0r00n can tell that Op's story is skewed to curry sympathy from readers. from her account, she has made up her mind to scram from her marriage. as far as i'm concerned, I'm sure many who have endorsed her intentions on this forum will NEVER consider such an drastic actions if the were in Op's shoes particularly the ones at home [9ja]. culture sure do plays a significant role in determining her bearing in life afterwards. someone asked critical questions such as:

''Are you ready to be a single mother of four children through out the rest of your life? Or you intend to re-marry in future? If you don't intend to re-marry, have you considered what effects your seperation will have on your children; socially, morally, economically and religiously? If you intend to re-marry, how sure are you that the next man's house you are going will be better of? What effects will that have on your children? Will you have children or not with your new husband, or you think you are too old to bear children?'' quote from leyelyzo

I couldn't have asked it better. and just an addition: the ramifications of your ''walking away'' will not only tell on you but may also have dire consequences for your children vis a vis their psychosocial and psychological well-being. some children live with that trauma for life. considering your age, you are most definitely not to be first wife to the next guy you are delving for [Nigerian guys aren't comfortable going for a 35yr old mother of 4 as first wife ] and Hope the next man treats you like an angel or you may be considering a third hubby and even a forth- which ushers in my question:

''are you sure the problem [the reasons you are being treated with so much resentment] is not from you?''

go take critical reflections about yourself- attitude towards him, what actually triggers the assaults, what are the things he complains about you, are there areas you are lacking or not giving attention as you should which gets him irate and irascible. come back an give us a comprehensive detail, then you can be sure of a balanced judgement.

work on yourself first and try to be a better person. I don't think any man would take undue/ irrational pleasure in punching his wife. often times, it's usually the fault of the woman [i'm not trying to exonerate the men o!]. for now, my candid advice is - apply your discretion, evaluate yourself, be a better person, please your hubby, stay for your kids, apply whatsoever formulae you have been using that has kept you this long with him just for cohesion and family union. it may not be easier out there; so you don't see yourself running back to plead that he accepts you back after bolting.

take a second look at things and make up your mind.

different shades of blue everywhere on a luminous white background this isn't fair to people with blue-colour blindness. it just sucks as far as i'm concerned. the former one was much better. i appreciate that you've done all this in a bid to make it better, but obviously not with consultation from nairalanders. opinion poll here clearly proves so.

is the laptop brand new?

[quote author=Yeske! link=topic=889994.msg10368604#msg10368604 date=1331366174]How do you mean making lying patients who you are trying to save their lives homely? Educate me please, i might be missing something.[/quote]they've already made up their minds from home to lie.

one thing I particularly find ridiculous is the mischievous smile on their faces when you prove it to them that they just lied.

you'll hear ''Doctor na true, no vex''

the last time I checked, Nigeria hadn't a football team. i wonder if there are 2 Nigerias on world map. is this supposed to be a typo? perhaps they mean Niger Rep. 

they that shall come to Him, He shall in no wise cast out.

nice move from OBJ. But I hope he is aware of what the bible preaches about restitution.

Nigeria demands restitution from him & his cohorts even in 4 folds!

Nigeria isn't concerned about who loses if the diplomatic relations is severed. afterall, he that is down fears no fall.

some quotes from south africans on a south african blog.



''you can always go back to where you were coming from, you are not south african so you cant comment on our issues. If your country was good you wouldnt have been here, and when we do business in nigeria we are actually doing you guys a favour coz you are so full of corruption to the extent that you cant even manage your Oil you have had it for 40 yrs bt still your country is bad'' - Roi Strong Sibambo - March 7, 2012 at 07:56

''Amara my sweet loving angel I wish you can come to South Africa and see what your brothers are doing to South Africa and to South Africans as a nation. I bet you would not like it. There is no Nigerian who is living innocent in South Africa.What the new thingy that is done by the Nigerians to South Africa except the case of drugs, prostitution, money loundring the list goes.Now nigerians get fake certificates to operate as doctors.Now tell me, where does this leave the lifes of South Africans who visit the surgery of these Nigerians thinking that those doctors are legitimate doctors?Will it be nice if your sister will be used as a coy for drug trafficking?Just 3 months back, our loving sister has been arrested in Bangkok (Nolu Nobanda).She was recruited by Nigerians to use her as decoy.Now she is facing a long jail term in Bangkok. In South Africa you get Nigerians who forever sending sms's telling people to give out their details so that they can do fraud and that South African is arrested, In South Africa you get Nigerians who hijack building and vandalise them so that LovePeddlers and drug users can leave there, In Sout Africa you get a Nigerian who kill a South African for his or her own space, Please let's be realistic in this matter, In South Africa you get Nigerians who infect South African ladies with HIV and they are dedicated to infect them, Oooh plse give me a break!!!!I rest my case on Nigerians'' - Aijaman - March 7, 2012 at 08:07

''May be that's because I don't see Europeans standing at every street corner selling drugs. May be it's because I don't see Europeans kidnapping under-aged girls, giving them drugs then forcing them into prostitution. May be it's because Europeans aren't running 419 scams. Need I go on? Ps: I don't have a problem with Chinese or Somalians either, know why?! 'Cause they make an honest living! That's why!''  Yolandè Rwaai - March 7, 2012 at 08


'' Drugs, murder, 419 scams, these are the only export prouct from Nigeria''      -  Ian - March 7, 2012 at 07:03


''Perhaps the Nigerian authorities should take a good look at the corruption that goes on with their emigration officials and the so called friendly business environment is not so friendly and equally corrupt with undisclosed commissions having to be paid etc. We won't even discuss the mobile phone and internet fraud's which are perpetrated by Nigerian Nationals in our country!!!!!''  -- Mike - March 7, 2012 at 06:58 Report comment





@OP

Evidently, this is a clear case of xenophobia. South Africans must have been nursing irrational fear and hatred for Nigerians. they link Nigerians to crime, drug trafficking and prostitution.

in any case, I personally feel they reserve every right to dictate any medical test they deem fit as a criteria for an entry clearance into their country- be it genotype test, dental check up certificate or whatever. However, I see no reason they should arbitrarily decide to deport Nigerians who have been granted entry clearance/visas sequel to satisfying the health conditionalities. it's just gross to punish people after they have met your side of the bargain and satisfied your stipulations.

as far as I'm concerned, the equation is not balanced yet.

125 - [28+56] = 41

so, Nigeria needs to deport 41 more!  

@OP

your prayer isn't rational. It's absolutely garnished with greed and avarice. It shows how much you desire a change in the system. anyway, it's a reflection of how critical you think. you think the grass is greener on the other side? yes, it is! but bear in mind - the bills are higher! way over higher.

even the unborn knows about the recent global financial quagmire. go do some research on the spate of unemployment in recent times in those countries you fantasise about. have you found out what it costs to get a university education in those countries?, pay water, electricity and gas bills even without a job? I'm not trying to justify the unwarranted hardship Nigerians are unduly subjected to as a result of corrupt governance. however, we can all contribute our little quota to make things better.

If you work hard and put even a bush in order, you can make a cosy home out of it.

Nigeria, Never good with statistics.

want to beat them all? ask them for anything remotely connected to figures as evidence.

why not think in the lines of installing facilities that are encouraging enough to come work home even for free.

see what misery has pushed able-bodied youths into

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very funny post.

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gun for a phone. was initially wondering if she shot the wastrel, 

hello Nairalanders,

please kindly help with this quizz:

1. How many Nigerian universities offer production engineering and how many offer mechanical engineering?

please list the schools.

2. who is the first production engr and who is the first mech engineer in Nigeria.

thanks.

no b small tin o! i was totally brainwashed into it, till date I still can't spot what exactly I've gained from it. I initially wanted chemical engineering

a.

xxcarolxx:
To think some people actually fall for these scams, I had received a scam email, they had dropped their no's on there, So i phoned the no's for a laugh, i let the guy ramble on for 5 mins, and then said i know it's a scam and have printed email and brought the copy of email to guards, the guy dropped his phone like it was hot,

so, you've got airtime to squander on these wastrels.