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codedguy1:
I never disputed the offside, since lovren touched the ball he played Kane on side.

yeah that's why I said I could accept that pen. just that It seemed a while for them to make the call, that's what make it look suspicious since the ref seemed this have waved play on before it was brought back.

I am just happy they dropped points, our players are not mentally ready to be engaged in any battle for top 4...

codedguy1:
The penalties were atrocious. I can even manage to accept the 2nd one but that 1st one from Kane looked like he deliberately left his leg for the contact.

Kane left a foot in for the pen but he wasn't offside since Lovren touched the ball.
The second pen was the correct decision though Lamela went down easily.

randomperson:
what cuts it for you doesn't matter... the footballing world understand the facts as they happened...

your opinion is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things

You claim Sanchez went for the money, I have asked you to provide verifiable facts that shows how much City offered and how much Sanchez is earning at United...It's that simple difficult...

Lots of long balls from Liverpool, they're practically parking the bus...

From your source;

City have resurrected their move to buy Sanchez, who they nearly signed for £55m at the end of the summer. But they view the total cost of the package – the contract, the agent’s fee and Arsenal’s £35m asking price – as too much for a player who will be a free agent in the summer. Unless there is flexibility in one of those areas, City will not do the deal. Their valuation for the transfer fee is closer to £20m.

This line talks about Arsenal’s asking price as one of the hindrance to the deal, something we managed to work our way around by offering Mkhitaryan.


This stance from City is in part because of the good news concerning Gabriel Jesus’s fitness. The Brazilian striker injured knee ligaments at Selhurst Park on 31 December but City now think he will be back within three weeks. This means signing another forward this month is less of a priority, and while they want Sanchez, they are not desperate for him.

In another chapter, they make it clear City were not keen due the the fact that Gabriel Jesus wasn't gonna be out for as long as first feared. To put it simply, they'd have gone the limit to get Sanchez if Jesus was going to be out for months as first reported.

The other paragraph suggested United were willing to pay more.

In all of it, not one source, part or close to the deal was quoted, and all they did was highlight all the possible scenarios and leave you to stick to the one that favors your argument. For you, it's the money, for me, it's our decision to use Mkhitaryan as a way around the asking price. A neutral (or me if I want to be selfish) will say it's only because Jesus was not going to be out for too long that's why City didn't go the limits. Take cue from the fact that they were willing to pay up to 65m for Mahrez when desperation set in after the Sane injury.

randomperson:
I don't have the time to go on a merry-go- round with you...

U need your delusions to foster your victim mentality so good luck

You don't have your facts, come back when you're arm to the teeth with it.
Conjectures don't cut it for me.

randomperson:
then why did the agent go back to city to increase the wages after receiving man utd's offer

it really doesn't matter how much u pretend, u know man utd offered more. the only reason city didn't offer more is because they didn't want to disrupt their wage structure...

Stories, quote reputable sources and figures here...You were sounding so sure, why are you boring me with stories when all you can do is tell me City offered let's say 250k and Manchester United offered 1m...

randomperson:
why are you avoiding my question? are you disputing the fact that man utd offered him more

I am saying you have no proof,if you do, you should be able to tell us how much City offered him and how much we are paying him.

Eruditor:
This would have been true if Alexis and his agent did not revert to City to ask them to match what United offered.

That is how we knew the wages United offered.

Let's see your sources...

kokaneprodigy:
Which perfect platform? Is it the one that’s 13 points away from the 1st platform.?

It's not a six month deal bro. When you are negotiating, you try to make the player see the big picture.

randomperson:
so one question:

Why in spite of all the aforementioned "sweeteners", did man u offer Sanchez more money

Please can you tell us first hand how much Sanchez is paid weekly?

randomperson:
it's called inference.... if it wasn't about the money, why did man utd offer more than man city?

I don't even get why that's an issue... your club is a rich club so naturally would outbid other clubs...

wait, I think I get it now... u guys want to maintain an image of a low spender so that you'll have an excuse if man city is more successful

Don't make it sound like it's West Ham here, it's City who spend the most cash so, I don't see how money can be a problem.
We didn't offer more money to Arsenal who had the call to make at this point, we just offered a sweetener to the deal and that's Mkhitaryan, City were going to pay between 25-35m to Arsenal and still pay him weekly (we aren't sure how much). Everything was pretty done until we came in with Mkhitaryan, Arsenal looked at the amount they were going to get for Sanchez and knew it couldn't afford a player the quality of Mkhitaryan and decided to do business with us, all we had to do was convince Sanchez that he had the perfect platform to excel at Old Trafford, he was guaranteed a starting place and the star of the team and he thought it was good for him and he accepted our offer. Case closed.
Now if you're on about inference, doesn't the above sound more plausible?

randomperson:
The truth is that Sanchez went to man utd because he was offered more money, simple...

were the fees astronomical? that's debatable. but he went for the money

It's the truth because Sanchez told you or because you're his agent?
You're starting with conjectures again. I thought you came with something different.

kokaneprodigy:
leave patrickmuf to keep beating his cricket chest. At least it makes him sleep at night.

Oga 6th, enjoy your rightful place.

randomperson:
Number 1- I'm not a barca fan

And since am reading with bias, let's kuku leave it to a man utd fan to decide who's coherent since man utd fans are naturally unbiased when it comes to issues concerning their club, pep, mourinho and all

Oga, someone comes here to spew trash saying we are paying astronomical sum for Sanchez from his head, he accuses us of throwing more money to players, again, unsubstantiated but no, we should all sit back and clap for him because he is an authority in football or what?
Again, all the points from him and others in support of his arguments are conjectures and nothing more, no iota of truth in his arguments...

randomperson:
You really need to cool this bragging.....

raumdeuter and co have been here for days now and schooling you and nothing has happened

so abeg let's hear word

They have been very incoherent, read without the usual bias that comes with a Barca fan on any EPL subject.

phaamsaam:
With time all would be leaked in the media, the Internet never forgets dude

How can the internet ever forget something it hasn't told us?

You can go to Arsenal's thread to post rubbish, Barca thread, Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea (you'll meet some resistance) but not here, you'll leave here disgraced...

phaamsaam:
This city man u, pep, Mou, Sanchez saga we all are ranting was all about money, 1. Sanchez agent knew this may likely be his last big money move, therefore wanted more money
2. Sanchez wanted to make sure his agent, who have stood by him for this long also got a fair share of the ilargesse
3. Sanchez also wanted to milk as high as he could get from this last 'big money move'
With all the aforementioned in consideration, Sanchez camp went back to ask for more in wages and other settlement from city, City who for reasons best known to them becoming suddenly prudent with spending said no.. Pep looking at the pros n cons with his team doing well and dressing room harmony in consideration decided it wasn't worth completing the deal... And the rest they say is history

You must be Alexis or his agent, if not, how did you know all these, do you work for City or were you involved in the negotiations? If no, all what you have written is trash.
Let's see your links to buttress your point.

PietroRico:
I don't understand if mctominay is actually limited on the ball or just scared to be more adventurous with his football.
It makes it difficult to see him as anything other than just basic.
He was played as a striker many times from the reserves prior to his promotion, so maybe it's the latter.
We will have to wait and see.

Spot on...

More like; jobless youths to hold 76 hrs musical concert.

sinizia:
Brother, this kind of numbing stupidity leaves me weak. I've never seen anything like it. The hypocrisy in watts will give every state, village and hamlet in Nigeria steady power for ever. This kind of foolishness will reduce the IQ of Einstein. So horrible is the stench of this hypocrisy that soakway pit workers refused to go near anywhere near it out of disgust.

A Pep and Barca apologist going all sanctimonious on us? Who does he think he's debating here? Kids? Folks without Internet? What the actual Bleep!?


http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2018/01/12/5a588581e5fdea5b198b45b6.html



After Barca went behind to offer more incentives to Neymar, including mind-boggling fraud money, conniving with Neymar to dupe Santos in a deal that shocked the ENTIRE WORLD, that nigga had the temerity to come on this thread to utter bollocks? Like we're born today? Nigga, fùck you and fùck your opinions.

Stay butthurt forever while your idol,Pep moves on with his life knowing this shît is regular football occurance. Now I know why Ibîme refused giving him audience anymore. I'll do same henceforth.


I'll have to reach out to English scholars and Oxford dictionary editors to strike off the word HYPOCRISY and replace it with his name. My God!!

Hehehe

Sinizia, he'll be back after a day or two with some dumb rebuttal...He must be using Google now, when he's done, he'll be here to chat shit he doesn't understand...

It's funny that Arsenal fans think they play inspiring football, same Arsenal we saw against Swansea.
No wahala, na that big headed Sam I blame for leaving Rooney, Sigurdson and co...Your next two games shall restore you lots to default mode.

KevinDein:
Ironically, rubbish Arsenal have actually finished ahead of Manchester Utd in each of the last 4 seasons and have won same number of trophies in that period; Man Utd having spent almost a billion pounds and playing sleep inducing football. Relative to what Utd have spent, they've been by far the biggest underachievers in Europe and it's totally amusing to see their fans have a go at another club. Not even the best club in Manchester and won't be for many years to come

Utd fans are severely deluded

That's the thing with Arsenal fans and mediocrity, that's how you lots celebrate St. Totteringham day like you guys have a trophy for it. Today, Tottenham is playing UCL football and you lots are away at Thursday night football. Finishing above United is not a trophy, I am happy you said we have won same number of trophies within this period and while you see us having a go at the team and the coach for each point dropped or drab performance, over there, you guys are celebrating mediocrity...You're glued to 6th position win, lose or draw yet you still have the guts to open your mouth in the comity of great clubs, yet, someone said Mourinho was talking too much when he branded your coach (now I am extending it to the fans) specialist in failure.

You should at least leave that sunken place (6th) before coming here to banter.

Leyqute:
This eru guy is funny. He is a thing to behold.

Lol the guy has no point most times...Engage him and watch him fumble.

How do people draw conclusions, how many times have we swooped in to snatched a player from under the noses of City?
I don't get how someone will comfortably think we offered more money or we went after a City target, Sanchez is one of the biggest name in the league and it is not surprising to see most top clubs after him. You're making it sound like once City indicates interest, everyone else should back down.
I know it's because Pep said they don't have the kind of money Sanchez wanted that this fan boy of his won't let us have peace, for him, whatever Pep says is the holy grail. For people like Pep and his bootlickers, once he indicates interest in a players, the said player must abandon everything and rush to the Etihad stadium, even some disciples of Christ thought twice before jumping on the bandwagon but no, since it's Pep, players must lower their demands, submit transfer request, go on strike and so on. Nonsense!!!
The disappointment of losing Sanchez might just see some folks take their own life.

CapitalCee:
lol. i tot you want to go down that lane with dayo. he will tire you out with amalanomics. and defeat you...lolzz

Hmehehe I no get strength for him argument.

Fkhalifa:
but this Everton held city Chelsea and Liverpool a draw game,that's even before they made their signings.

Well, at some point, the commentator said Everton had 20m more worth of players on the pitch than Arsenal but he went on to say he is not sure they got value for money.

Big Sam is also foolish, he bench Sigurdson, Rooney, their 27m new acquisition for average players. I couldn't place my head round their game plan.

larride:
McTominay did his job perfectly today bro, such composure, maturity and calmness, he sure can improve but this is a way to go, if you notice, you will see that Matic joined the attack more often till Pogba came on, I don't mind him taking Herrera or Fellaini position in the team. A good squad player.

Is he an improvement on Herrera? I think not at the moment.
I am only saying we shouldn't begin to praise him cos he might feel he is playing at a top level and might just stagnate like others before him English players). He needs to be a tad daring with his passes, you saw how a pass from Pogba led to our second goal, we need him to attempt such passes.

raumdeuter:
Lewandoski was a free transfer like your Sanchez deal

Hummel was a former Bayern player who came back to his roots

Gotze is back to Dortmund and even a better excuse than what you gave for Mata

How can't the dame excuse you used for Matic be used for Dante

Okay

McTonimay needs to improve his play, he is too cautious, he should be more daring with his passes and his forays forward. His game is too similar to Herrera and to be honest, I know a vast majority of fans here are not satisfied with what Herrera offers.