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raumdeuter:
Yes that same Belleti was signed by Jose Mourinho
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/03/article-2335052-017CFD14000004B0-164_634x462.jpg

Abi you wan argue the facts?

You should have known that when I post its 98% facts

I thought you meant he was signed in 2004.

raumdeuter:
In 2004

Right Back inherited Geremi, Glen Johnson and Mechiot, Added Paolo fereira, Khalid Bhoularouz and Belleti all in 3 seasons between 04/05 and 07/08 Facts only

6 players for 1 position in 3 seasons

The special one

Which Belleti? The one that scored the winning goal for Barcelona in the 2006 UCL final? Keep trying...

KevinDein:
Baaaaahhh

Ozil just signed a new three and a half year contract on 350k per week, so eat your heart out. And oh, I hope you lot are enjoying the borefest moronhio serves you lot every week.

Hehehe he did it just to ensure you guys recoup a few quids for when he kisses goodbye.

phaamsaam:
What hypocrisy, pep hasn't told mancity to stop other managers from spending the cash, pep is right when he says he spends 300m on 6players while some clubs can afford to on one player or two, mancity I think like barca are trying to be smart in completing their transfers this Jan, bcus no one knows how the summer would be after a world Cup, even wenger has resorted to spending huge today, who would have thought that few yrs back

When your goons were referring to Mourinho as the cheque book manager, did he also tell other coaches not to spend?

pharod:
This Tahith Chong is too good for his age. The boy is unbelievably good. I hope Mourinho notices him and take him along for preseason tour.

Very good player, he comes with that Gullit looks

Nobody in this current Arsenal that can grab a game by the scruff of the neck, Lacazette doesn't inspire any confidence, his movement and facial expression is that of a weakling...
The less said of that defense the better, first Pogba made light work of Kos and yesterday, Mustafi stupidly allowed a striker to do same to him. Piss poor.

The last hope is Wilshere, he's the only player in this current team with a positive attitude on the field of play.

Ozil won't sign a new deal, I hope he joins us at United.

eph12:
But Pogba should not be burned with winning midfield. That's not him. He should be free to roam forward as he does not have that discipline.

It will be easier for him and the team if we start our defence from attack though. If we can win the balls in opposition half then we have more than enough players to do the damage.

He can still roam forward if we exert ourselves well. You'd rather go for a 3 man midfield, right?

Eruditor:
DailyMail cannot conjure up more speculations per line like you just did. So which is it again: Pep has the best players who will squander 12pts by losing 4 games or Mou will win every game till season ends. What assures you that he will finish above Chelsea or Liverpool? 12 point leads have been squandered before let alone 3 or 8 points. Your logic is safe abi?

As per Alexis, this is why your own logic will always crush you. So Pep that has the "most expensive bench" as you people say, and was benching Aguero, will not bench Sanchez? You think he is a desperado like others?

I took you back to history so you can be humble but you call it conjecture.
Sanchez will start in that City team and it doesn't in anyway imply the guys at City are pushers, it only highlights how supremely talented Sanchez is.

You come here shouting 12 points lead but when you are called to other you try to counter attack, where have you seen Manchester United fans constantly on the faces of Chelsea and Pool fans because of the point difference that exist between us? It's rare because we have lived moments that have left us stunned in the EPL...

CapitalCee:
De gea.

Valencia. Smalling. Jones. Shaw/young.

Matic. Pogba.

Sanchez. Lingard. Martial.

Lukaku.

I want Sanchez at AM (SS) where he is closer to Martial and Pogba and can easily interchange positions with Martial.
Let Lingard and Mata battle it out for the left wing position.

Eruditor:
I have done the analysis before. Mou just about edges it.

You cannot ingenuously remove his early years when you want to say he could not win much in those small clubs, and then bring it back to divide how much he has spent with the years he has stayed in football.

A proper analysis will involve starting from when he came to Chelsea as they are the first true club he got to that could really spend.

I won't bring in inflation because it affects both managers now - including Wenger.

But you guys factored in those early years when are jumping upandan shouting 18 years, no?

We should start counting from his time at Chelsea, why? How about his Porto days?

Guys, you can see how he is doing himself in, when we are talking about trophies, Mourinho has spent 18 years as a manager...

When we're refer to money spent, we should start counting from his Chelsea days...

It's funny, isn't it?

Eruditor:
City are winning well without Alexis. Alexis was going to be a luxury player for the UCL. They have only 2 strikers.

City have won nothing, in the season City won the league on goal difference, we were 11 points ahead around February or thereabout but we lost it.

Arsenal have surrendered more than 12 point lead in the past, same with Newcastle so this talk about winning doesn't translate to trophies if you must know.

How would Alexis who would've forced Pep to ditch Aguero or send Sane to the RW be a luxury is beyond me, Man City had a 60m bid accepted at the last day of the summer transfer market accepted by Arsenal only for the deal to collapse because Arsenal couldn't get a replacement, he was gonna join them now before a bigger team swooped in...All this money and effort for a luxury player? The excuses are getting ridiculous by the day.

Eruditor:
This is stoopid, Please delete it. They will laugh at you. No manager in world football has a better Trophy to active years ratio than Pep. I can show you what is wrong with the table but no time.

Now, tell us if any Manager in the world has spent as much as Pep who has only been in the game for 9 years as a coach...The ratio of amount spent per trophy will leave you shocked...

Manchester United owes close to a billion but if you're asked to provide facts that support your claim, you will start jumping from pillar to post...

He also said Sanchez was a quick fix because he choose Manchester United but when Pep was in for him and everything seemed done with City, we heard he was the perfect player, the Pep kind of striker, the one to play false 9 and implement Pep ideas better than the washed up Aguero...

Una hypocrisy no get rival.

randomperson:
Porto, inter milan

I have tried, you'll see the light someday or it will be too bright for you to ignore.

randomperson:
No.... There is little or no chance for underdogs again

Underdogs like?

randomperson:
This thing is very simple... Just ascertain the value of all those old transfers in today's market .... U can use the percentage of the transfer record at that time...

Am not an economist, but i understand inflation is a significant factor and ignoring it will make this an exercise in futility

So the level of competition then and now is the same, right? Answer; yes or no...

randomperson:
Exactly my point, Mourinho is a small team manager. He should be dragging with tony Pulis, pardew, allerdyce and co...

He should leave the elite clubs for pep, and he should concentrate on inter and Porto, because when he tries to reach above his class, he always falls short..

And when Pep doesn't have Messi, he becomes Eddie Howe...

randomperson:
Guy, this is really straightforward now... Transfer fees are more expensive these days...

Even in ordinary economic life, there is inflation not to talk of in football...

Neymar was sold for over 200million, if it was 2004, it would have been less than 70. That's like 1/3 of the price...


Is it that man utd fans are not good at maths or u people are deliberately being obtuse

Clutching at straws, the competition then was greater, it was more difficult to win as you had more worthy challengers...

Talking about inflation, 60-70 in 2004 is equivalent to the fee quoted for Neymar now...You shout inflation upandan like you know how it works...

randomperson:
Pep spent four years in Barca, in the next four years they have had three managers...

Pep won two ucl titles for Barca, five years later, they have only won one.

Mourinho spent three years at Madrid, no champions league, four years later they have won three.


Spot the difference

Hypocrisy again...Mourinho won the UCL wit Inter in 2010 after 50 years, 8 years later, they can't even make the group stage of the competition.

He won it with Porto in 2004, 14 years later? Nothing...Juup won the treble with Bayern, 3 years after the failed management of Pep, nothing to show for it...

eph12:
What are you talking about? What is there to ascertain? Maybe we should also ascertain if trophies won then are of same value as today

The guy just dey misyarn anyhow...

randomperson:
Do the calculation, ascertain the value of past transfers in today's market... U can derive a formula if u want to

He has outspent Mourinho despite only being in the game for 10 9 years...Cheque book manager...

randomperson:
Yes, of course....

If u can ascertain the values of past transfers in today's market

I see you could ascertain the quality each manager came up against...Your hypocrisy stinks, wear a perfume on it.

randomperson:
Simple maths... 22/18= 1.22

19/9= 2.11...

Ergo, pep is winning trophies at a faster rate than Mourinho. In fact, at almost twice the rate

Is he spending more per trophy won? Don't be a coward, take up the challenge...

You'll use your hand to kill yourself.

eph12:
That I hailed the win doesn't mean it's not local. You should ask your oga dayo to explain how this local thing works.

Are we permitted to also consider the amount spent in relation to the number of years as a coach?

If he accepts, I'll be shocked...

Cc: randomperson

randomperson:
Mourinho has gone trophyless more times than guardiola... Please say another thing

He didn't go trophyless last season tho!

randomperson:
See the person saying local competition, u were the same person hailing Mourinho for his capital one cup and community shield...

This hypocrisy has levelss....

When u want to show that pogba is good, u would say he has had the highest assists in these number of minutes as opposed to de Bruyne but when it comes to guardiola, suddenly, the amount of time taken to do something doesn't matter anymore... Mad people

Pep couldn't win the local trophies. The holy grail still remains the UCL until then, Mourinho is bossing Pep in the trophy count...

eph12:
Maybe you should ask RM how much they are ready to sell Ronaldo to know the value in today's market

Don't mind him, trying to score points where none exist...

randomperson:
This same narrative?

Mourinho had the most expensive team last season and still came sixth

He bought at the players? How about he won 3 trophies?
Pep out spent everybody but went the season trophyless...

randomperson:
Bayern were struggling in the league and then they lost to psg in the cl.... That's why he was sacked.... Heyneckes, the treble winning coach didn't win the league every time... Guardiola sucked the life out of the league- they were winning the league with a lot of games still to play

And remember, ancelloti didn't make semis in last years cl. If it was guardiola now, we wouldn't hear word

Winning that league counts for nothing that why he is really appreciated over there. Ancelotti would have qualified them but he lost the dressing room and the club had a choice to make, coach or players and there's always gonna be one winner here.

Anytime you feel like yarning bullocks, avoid this thread...Your half truths will be laid bare here and your lies exposed...

eph12:
It's even more pathetic when you realize he has spent more in much lesser number of years

Don't forget he even took a year off...Cheque book manager...

Pep took a year off but has spent more if not as much as Mourinho who has been in the game much longer...