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Kennydoc:
APC has been in power for 8 years and ended up completely destroying Nigeria, but here you are still blaming PDP. Isn't this a sort of insanity?

No preaching can make vote another Fulani man to continue ruling for another straight 8yrs bro. If APC had given their ticket to a Fulani man, u would've seen me lambasting them as well. For now, the two options for me are Obi n Tinubu. We can't allow a bad precedent to be set.

geewean:
I don't play political party at all because all of them in Nigeria are the same.What is APC political ideology? Just like we know what the republican and democrats stand for in Nigeria.

Was PDP the cause of the 1 hour unchallenged operations of the terrorist at the kuje correctional center in the capital of Nigeria? Freeing criminals even giving an Islamic lecture with transfare but an APC president is in power.Is the PDP behind the Owo church massacre? Is the PDP behind the long stay of students at home due to the industrial action of lecturer? Is the PDP responsible for the movement of the Naira Dollar exchange rate from less than 200 Naira to almost 600 naira today? Is the PDP responsible for the avoidable and barbaric traffic from Abraham adesanya to almost Chevron in Lagos where you leave Ajah by 5am and get to the mainland by 11am? Is PDP responsible for the worst level of inflation in Nigeria? Abi na PDP help the accountant general steal over 40 billion naira and till date justice hasn't caught up with him?



90 percent of Nigerians supporting Peter Obi are those who are fed up with the suffocating change your demonic party brought through the unfournate mannequin in Aso rock.They aren't a card carrying member of LP.They are simply rooting for an individual whose value propositions for a better Nigeria resonates with reasonable Nigerians that he understands the plight of the common man.


Is it the" Emi Lo kan" ideology that can transit Nigeria from this dungeon to a blissful state? Abi the Agbado and corn tales are recipe for national development.Tinubu no doubt is a leader of some sort but the only thing that will make him earn my vote is for him to condemn the incompetence of this government which has created hardship for Nigerians.failure to do so means he is in support of the killings , security breaches , economic collapse etc and such a man does not deserve my vote because he hasn't identified with the current plight of Nigerians.By extension,his regime will be the worst after Buhari.Agberos and Owo mi da gengs will become untouchable.They will tax the hell out of Nigerians.All states will have till gates back and heavy revenue collection will be enforced at max such that inter state traveling will now be a luxury.

Kindly tell us in clear terms what are your party's values?

I put it straight to you.APC is the worst thing that has happened to Buhari is a monumental failure.A product from that party as a presidential candidate is a potential calamity to this country.Bo capping bruh!

I recently dealt with one of your member in my area.He evangelised APC then until the dollar scarcity destroyed his car business and other importation business.He asked me for a soft loan.I told him I have the money but in the context of his situation, I advised him to go meet Buhari his messiah to help him or go see the bourdillion chief to help him out.I asked him if APC doesn't have a microfinance arm to support their blind supporters?Baba dey boil kos the look on his face could potray his anger.For my mind you never Chi Chun chin! I offered to buy him pepper soup in lieu of the loan.Baba vex go.I laughed hard when I got home.That serves the idiot right.

So all these ya right up is to make vote for Atiku...God forbid...

ponishah:
So WIke was the only serving PdP governor sustaining PDP since 2015? Una dey funny shaa.

Party leaders or committee didnt chose Wike as Atikus running mate, get that straight.If they chose him, then how come his name was not the only name on the Vp list ?
IF THE COMMITTEE SELECTED WIKE AS ATIKUS RUNNING MATE, WHY DID THEY SHORTLIST 3 PEOPLE?
They came came up with a list of 3 vp aspirants and gave Atiku to chose from and he made his choice.

Wike na cry cry baby, abeg nake him park one side

Stop lying. It was later narrowed to 2 or 3 n proceeded by voting where Wike won decisively by 16-3 votes. Is that not an act of choosing someone?

paramakina202:
E no go work,which mouth Wike wan take tell his supporters make them vote APC?
PDP will soon settle whatever wahala dem get with Wike.

He can say anything good especially as he has never criticised Tinubu. He'll actually say that he's giving his support to Tinubu.

Liebermantic:
Agbado eater, stop daydreaming, there is no state in the Southeast APC will get 5% votes in the presidential election..We are not talking about Gubernatorial or Senatorial election.Ndigbo votes personality,not party.. Tinubu is no no no no in Southeast.

What are even saying? Political analysis no be ya calling bro.

garfield1:
They will In ebonyi,abia and imo

Yea, I think they will in Ebonyi n Imo and probably Abia if OUK work for BAT like he did to PMB

Though our country being divided along religio-ethnic line need the two major religions to calm thought n lessen tension. In this case, Tinubu being in charge is not an extremist knowing full well that his wife is an ordained pastor in RCCG. U can even ask b4 u know that Tinubu is a Muslim. I'm a core christian from south n condemns Islam extremism but I would still vote Tinubu if he's my choice without using religion as an excuse. Everyone know that Tinubu choosing a Christian from north will narrow his chance n politics is not religion. U have to play ur best card.
The same people that call Tinubu fake Muslim are those that are saying that he want to islamise Nigeria. Then I want to ask; do fake Muslim islamise a society?
Anyone who won't vote Tinubu won't do so even if he picks the bishop of Rome simple!

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Wike would welcome every visitor like he did Peter Obi and Kwankwanso.At the end of the day he is a committed Pdp man who will work for Peter Obi.Tinubu and Apc have nothing to offer him when is arch rival is Ameachi.

Remember Osun2018. Before the rerun, PDP members led by relegated Saraki met Omisore n he welcomed them before he was met by APC members led by Tinubu n he stuck d deal that put Oyetola on dat seat till today.
Moral lesson: no be person wey first mad be senior mad man. Na person wey mad pass na hin be senior mad man.

fergie001:
garfield1 vicdom kahal29 penguin2 indispensable85 ejimatic Ojuntana kyase peacecore

Now don't u think that the implication of this judgement as the first defendant has proceeded to appeal is that if he loses d appeal n at SC that PDP won't have candidate since the plaintiff wasn't declared winner.

ItsTutsi:
Believe me, if Tinubu picks a northerner muslim, then its a done deal for APC!! The north is divided between Atiku and tinubu..but it will tilt in the favor of Tinubu if he picks a muslim

The northern governors and Buhari have emphatically made it clear power should move to south

I stopped following and basing my permutations on politics in 2019, I was shocked to have seen Buhari win with all the insults he was receiving in the north, to the extend he narrowly lost Benue

One funny thing, Buhari is the most insulted person in the north today, but if he could contest for 3rd term, he will still win in the North

Always my point about politics bro. Forget social media. The people that vote ain't online. They don't even have phones.

Righteousness2:
Anyone telling you religion does not matter is deceiving you. Do not fall for that. The events in Kaduna state should make any Christian to wise up.
Such a ticket in Nigeria of today is evil and wicked. Stand up for your faith and refuse to be Deceived .

hahahaha pastor Riteousness e don tey o

buckeyemedia:
Demonic People pdp today, APC tomorrow, these idiots stand for nothing, sorry for the Nigerians supporting them, playing the Mumuric citizens like a game of draft.

Selfish minded cursed hypocrites, of what use is the visit to Wike? All these 3 incubus servants of Satan that support Bola Tinubu.

PDP should be sliced to give way to southern politician to emerge president next year. We can't have north for a straight 16yrs.
South lokan

Adexxi:
Lie kill you there. Go back to read what you said. Bring MC oluomo then expect Auxiliary . 2018 won't repeat itself

peace was never an option

But u were d one that mentioned Oluomo. I said that MC will test the microphone. And this is always the first thing masters of ceremonies do. Repent n give ya life to Jesus. Where's pastor Riteousness sef

HRMK:
cowards die long before their death!the real battle is at the polls!remember,the pdp candidate in ekiti was a very distant third!ok.the dancing senator now has a masters degree,but running a govt isnt abt dancing!too bad if all adeleke could offer is his dancing prowess!!

As if dancing will bring good education system, employment et al to the State of Osun

Adexxi:
And why did you bring MC to this supposed peaceful election . You think say na only sabi vawulence . Baba hear Auxiliary dey shit pant. Even MC no go feel near . Eyin na maa oko ìyá yin

When did MC becomes an acronym for thugs? I mean master of ceremony when APC will go for flag off campaign. Comrade shun vawulence, it's not for children of God including you.

Arysexy:
Peter Obi equally met Wike and so?

I like Obi but look at he distance between him n Wike in that picture, u will found out that they didn't discuss anything serious. Then, if u look at how merry n close he was with the governors especially Fayemi or watch d video when he(Wike) said that they are one family, u would actually know that they've agreed to Wike terms n conditions n everything sealed.

This is good for our democracy. PDP needs to be get rid of for our country to move forward. God bless Sanwo- Eko the only hardworking governor without opposition. God bless Akeredolu the slayer of " north2023" crew. God bless Fayemi, the destroyer of Ekiti State Jax collector's party. God bless Fayose the co-destroyer of PDP. God bless Wike, the wicked for stating categorically that him and the whole south can never be second class citizens.
God bless me for standing for the our right.

Adexxi:
You don't even know how ede breed thugs , mind you we dey carry Auxillary come , even Mc no go near osun this time

Why are u calling thugs name in this meant-to-be decent election? Out security will be there that day to lawfully resist that ya auxillary n his thugs.

Fear don catch Ade de dancer. He's started a fight that he mayn't finish. If it's more than Osun guys, we'll report to MC to test the microphone.

fergie001:
Now let me get into the meat of the case.

1. Anywhere you see election in the Electoral Act, in this context, refers to the (general) election. The Courts have long decided this. What takes place in political parties is Primaries, so there is nothing like primary election. This is to make sure it is distinguishable...

2. I have taken time to x-ray Sections 29(1), (5) and (6).
29(5) speaks about an aspirant in the Primaries of that Political Party.
29(6) speaks about Candidate in an election.

There is a world of difference between an aspirant and a Candidate in an election.
An aspirant is a person with a strong desire to achieve a position of importance or to win a competition (SC in PDP v Sylva).

A Candidate is one presented by the Party to be so elected. So (5) and (6) are mutually exclusive.

Look at the second part of (6):
...and then declare the candidate with the second highest number of valid votes and who satisfies the constitutional requirement as the winner of the election.

"and" is a co-ordinating conjunction....
-'So who is the candidate with the second highest number of valid votes that the Judge should now pronounce as winner of the election since you subscribe to the first part of that paragraph?

-So how will the Act speak of disqualifying the Sponsoring political party then announcing the Candidate with the second highest votes when no election (in the true sense of it) has been conducted.

This is my interpretation of that section:
We have situations were pre-election matters run in and elections are conducted like in PDP v Degi and Marafa v APC. That is what (6) is talking about.

(5) speaks about the interim, what is happening now.....

I asked garfield1 a question he hasn't answered up till now, I will like to ask same to you:

If Tinubu is disqualified today on the basis of Certificate, I mean today, who is the beneficiary? garfield1 knows it is Amaechi but doesn't want to say so because it stands on all fours with this case.

S33 is not a new provision. It was in the old Electoral Act as S33 (voluntary withdrawal or death).... It did not bar the SC in Saleh v Abah, and was not brought up in this case hence the higher Courts won't touch it. It is now DEAD.
What the Courts want to look into is who is the PDP Candidate?

My personal take in all of this is:
One, Oborevwori does not have a complete nomination. Nomination of Guber Candidates can only be complete when they have a Deputy and properly submitted to INEC. The window is still open.

Two, Oborevwori has been disqualified... PDP submits the name of the man who came second. That's the only way out!

In all of this, the PDP and Okowa have the yam and the knife.

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Again, I referenced those names because the APC have no candidate for now. It is empty, both in Yobe, AKS and Edo PDP. Will you now say APC, PDP are disqualified?

The Court will only say Akpabio, Lawan are disqualified... that's the reference. If I use your analogy, can you put something on nothing?

APC submitted names of people who did not even pick form for a position, does that not contravene Sections 84 and 33?

Are you saying if Machina challenges same, the Court will now rule that APC is disqualified? no. The Court will say Lawan is not the Candidate.

I understand ur claim it's a bit dicey to claim that PDP will submit any other name. Mind you that INEC is bound to refuse acceptance of the any other name that's different from the winner of the primary as they're doing in those aforementioned states. And if they do, APC will sponsor any one inside party that participated in the primary to register that case of disqualification of the first and second defendants. Let's keep our fingers crossed n watch as it unfolds.

garfield1:
I want pdp out of rivers,delta and aks or one of them

They must lose either of the states, no doubt

garfield1:
Very true.pdp ought not to have a candidate, cc kyase,ojuntana,ejimatic

That's it .. nothing goes for nothing.
The celebrated it when it came to Lyon, so they have to bear it.

Adexxi:
Na me and ur father be mate . I mean your father . Omo ana lásálásán

if u are my father's age mate, then u are a disgracing d grey hair.

NessFortunate:
says who? This is a pre election matter. Either the person that came second succeds him or PDP Conduct a fresh primary. Peace be unto you.

This is not nullification of primary election but disqualification bro.

fergie001:
Why are you reading (5) and (6) without reading (1)?
When counting numbers, you start from 1, 2, 3 and not 5. That's how the Constitution and Electoral Act are read. In Conjunction....
Section 29(1) is a carry over from 31(1) from the old Electoral Act.

The SC married both the old 31(1), 31(5) & 31(6) in PDP v Degi. Has PDP submitted their Dep-Gov Guber Candidate? Anybody can still drop now, everyone including the Candidates themselves can still be substituted. Section 29(1) must take place before 2, 3 and others will follow.

Read PDP v Degi, APC v Obaseki, Saleh v Abah.
If for example, it is less than 180 days to the election, then PDP will not participate. The Primary wasn't nullified as you rightly said but the winner's vote is voided, destroyed, empty.

There is no final list for now....INEC reiterated that last week. The Judge was right in his Judgement. Will you say APC who violated their Act like in Akpabio, Lawan, Machina or PDP like in Edo also don't have Candidiates because INEC didn't list them?

Like I said before, this is not a case of voluntary withdrawal or death but a case of disqualification of an already declare winner in a primary election. DISQUALIFICATION NOT NULLIFICATION. U can't exchange nothing with something. Now tell me, who is the candidate of PDP for him to be replaced with another candidate?. In d case of Akpabio n Machina that u mentioned; this are illegality as regards to the nomination of candidates and that's why inec sticks to d duly nominated candidates. APC can't be disqualified from d election bcoz dia candidates are still valid according to inec. Even if Akpabio n Lawal participate I d election, the two illegally removed candidates can go to court to reclaim their mandates.

Adexxi:
Run your mouth here anyhow and collect wotowoto . let us embrace vawulence

@seun there should be minimum age, at least 18yrs for someone to be allowed to register in this forum. Op in causing nuisance that is peculiar to underage in this forum.

rolams:
Hmmm! It's a pity, the electorate will not look into this.

Let them go out there n slug it out sha.

fergie001:
29(5) & 29(6) is a continuation from 29(1). They are to be read in conjunction and not isolation.

In the old Electoral Act, window closes 60 days to the general election. S31(1) of the EA2010.

In this new one, it is 180 days.......

I don't think there's anything window has to do with this case bcoz d primary is not nullified. The candidate is n sponsor of the candidate, the party are disqualified together according to the electoral law.

Adexxi:
I used we cox my lg is locked down for pdp , I mean ife central , largest lg in ife if you don't know . Why should we vote Oyetola While our son is vying to be deputy Governor . Give me the reason if you don't thunder locate you soon

Must u resort to abusing someone in d course of presenting ur case. I'm bad-mouthed but two wrongs can't make a right. I don't pay evil with evil. But next time try to comport yasef with decorum while in a public space.

Allow I have to say is " poor PDP "

WarriAproko:
can u give a section of the constitution

I just explained what d part u circled in d electral act as amended says na. Since the court has disqualified dia candidate based on false credentials, they've lose it. There would've been replacement with second runner-up in the primary election if d judgement had based on electoral irregularities or general malpractices.

rolams:
Has debate ever translated to winning election this time?

It doesn't but if u had seen d way he rushed to attend the one organized in Yoruba language, u would know that dude is empty upstairs