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nickmanuel:Thank you for your clarity but like some people who responded before you, you missed my point. I planned paying maximum 600k like you too, and will have had no complaints like you if I paid 435k in addition to having a pad. Unfortunately, I am in the set after you and didn't know I will be paying more than double what you paid, hence my regret. You made mention of carry overs as being why fees are high; I am presently a distinction student; meaning my cumulative gpa is above 4.5 and I have no carryover. My complaint is borne out of a reflection of what I thought I was getting into, what I met when I resumed and what we have as of now. Thank you |
onaf:Thanks for your robust reply but from what you wrote, you paid 435k and still got a pad because you are the promo student so your fees didn't increase. If I was made to believe I will pay about 600k to finish the program and I have spent almost 800k without buying any tab and not yet done, don't you think I have a point. Recall that I am just one set behind you and surely paying more than double your fees while just one session behind. You mentioned contacting the coordinator, I have done that and even though I received a message about the facebook meeting. ABU DLC management has been silent on issues of extension of this semester payment which closes tomorrow. If I didn't make the payment yesterday, I may end up having to pay extra 10k for late registration and if I don't pay before the first module is delivered, what are my chances with this new single delivery structure. Note that I will also have don't no issues with the program if I were in your set and that was the basis for some of us who started the program. It is understandable but I bet if you were in my batch and having to put paying your kids school fees on hold for the first time to ensure you can pay for a school fees you have little say on and to avoid missing the module, you will be complaining like me. Thank you one more time but be truthful to yourself, if you were me, will you be saying what you are saying? |
truthfulmallam:Thank you for your reply but if I may ask, which of the complaint is bogus? Is it the main complaint on fees that is almost 800k already and yet to be completed or change of course structure, increase in number of courses or that I am finding it hard to see the practicality of the MBA; practical orientation and knowledge of technicality in chosen specialization is surely absent. If I may ask, how much have you paid since you started this program and how much were you expecting to pay, then we can decide if my complaint is bogus. By the way, my main complaint is in the fees so if you can be kind enough to give me a scholarship for all remaining fees, then I may stop crying about dropping out but if I am still expected to be the one paying the increasing fees, don't call my complaint bogus. |
Flintstone06:Wow, glad to hear that you are done. I didn't know that there is any group that has finished; I thought the first batch of the online MBA are going to finish December. Please, how much did you pay in all because the fees is really a point of concern to me. I budgeted 600k and now almost at 800k yet still have one full semester to go with little say on the frequent additional fees popping up.. |
Good morning all. Just out of curiosity, what happened to all those people who started this forum in 2012. I observed I can't even find one of them here anymore. Hope, it isn't what I am thinking because with the way you people keep joking about NSE chasing some people back to the village, maybe, it is time I focus on developing that my village cottage. |
cc: lalasticlala I didn't even know that we are many in the same ship. Moderators, Please, help us get this message to the front page where stakeholders and the school's principal officers can see the message and probably address it before most of us get forced out of a program we had high expectations of. Thanks |
When in early 2017, a friend brought to my notice a first of its kind online MBA program here in Nigeria, I couldn't really believe him but when he opened the appealing advert of the ABU Online MBA, I got immediately interested as I had been looking forward to obtaining a MBA. I fully researched the program and everything looked perfect; I checked the course structure, delivery, fees and observed it was something I could do in my spare time, while still working. In terms of structure, it was slightly self-paced but I was expected to pick up materials and prepare for exams; which I learnt were mainly computer-based tests at that time. On the issue of delivery, I learnt that there was an e-learning suite to deploy most of the course and I was going to be assigned an e-tutor for all courses I was to take; this I learnt should be about 24 in all. On fees, I learnt the current students were then paying less than 500 thousand naira overall hence reasonably affordable for me. Fast forward to May, 2017, I encouraged three other friends and colleagues to start the program and as we were about to register, we observed a change in fee structure; instead of the normal bulk fee, we were now to pay 10 thousand naira for electives and 20 thousand naira for core courses. This naturally increased the expected fees but in my gullibility, I felt i could still manage to afford it. To my amazement, midway into the first semester, there was a change in the delivery structure, while some courses had committed e-tutors who were available to explain whatsoever challenges we had with the courses, some e-tutors were just non-existent. Another issue is the review of the examination twice within one semester; we learnt on NUC's insistence, the course had to be 50% theoretical paper/50% Computer based tests but later changed it to 30% assignments/30% Computer based tests/40% theoretical papers. In my typical perseverance, I adapted and continued with the program but observed midway that instead of the initial 24 courses being planned for, the courses had changed to about 30 in all. By the next semester, all fees were changed to a flat 20 thousand naira. I was already in the middle of the river and having no choice, I continued with the program. Then came increment of offered courses to about 36 before finishing the program with all additional courses estimated at 20,000 naira per course. The painful part was that these courses were more or less repetitions; a course was sometimes divided into three parts just to ensure that instead of us paying 20,000, we get to pay 60,000. Just after complaining of the increasing fees and reduction in the quality of the programme, slight adjustments were made; this was insufficient in my dousing my increasing regrets for starting the program. Surprisingly, the university, introduced what they termed late registration fees; this was supposed to be added fees for registering late even though you will not be allowed access to the platform nor educational materials until you make payment. We could do nothing about it as all complaints were either not attended to or brought with it, further problems. As if that was not enough, very close to exams, I observed additional 10,000 naira on the fee retinue; this was tagged examination fees. I felt the essence of our paying the 20,000 naira was to ensure everything relating to the individual courses was captured hence why add a fee that we were not told of at the beginning of the program and just when we were preparing for exams; when it was already confirmed that we have already made payment for the semester. I became frustrated, and felt like just dropping out; having seen three of my colleagues drop out due to increasing fees. Coping financially was becoming hard for me and continuing with the program was becoming suffocating. I forced myself to continue the course; being someone who hardly gives up, but on entering into the fourth semester discovered that there were now new split courses which were illogical. We had courses like Seminar, Project 1, Project 2, internship etc. which were not going to be taught but we still had to pay for; we complained and expected palliative measures only to wake up and hear that the course delivery has been changed to single delivery which implies that the flexibility of the program was more or less gone and with it came the realization that the core focus of an MBA; practical orientation and fundamental understanding of key concepts was no more assured. I computed everything I have paid for a programme that I have little or no say in and observed I am just a little bit short of 800 thousand naira yet I still have one full semester to go that I still have to pay for. I have to admit that I have been hoodwinked into thinking the ABU online MBA can give me what other international online MBAs could have given me; though the fees are fast getting similar. I seem to be in a one-chance vehicle but not knowing if its is sane for me to jump down. I woke up this morning to see that another 20,000 naira has been added to the fee retinue for transcript or something like that I can't remember applying nor planning to apply for. I really need help before this financial pressure frustrate me into leaving this programme with the huge amount i have spent; maybe, like a colleague said, i should have used the money in buying a land in Kubwa and wait for it to appreciate because even with the MBA, there is no assurance of pay increase at work, new opportunities nor a profitable return on investment. Please save my soul!!!
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currentprice:What will pretending to master an obviously unstable market benefit me? I lose some, gain some; thanks to the January Bull but I am still a learner and trying to learn more. So admitting to having to run out of the FO bus is because I am seeing similarity between FO devaluation and most of Jimoh Ibrahim's stocks; it only goes down the more so better to come down from the bus than reach the final bus stop and see that your stocks are already worthless. Someone mentioned here that Femi Otedola has removed his money and hand from FO and I think he is correct. My next target is Oando; counting my loss and running |
currentprice:Such is life; I somewhat liked the guy and saw him as an astute business man and being a keeper of stocks, I guess the haircut fits me well. FO better now; what will you say of Intercontinental and Oceanic bank that turned full Afro to bald head; I am learning g never to do long term stock investment anymore inasmuch it us NSE |
tritritri:When I saw Otedola increasing his social media presence, I knew he was after something; the only logical thing is politics and the most likely being Lagos State governor. However, he won't win and with the present situation of FO, the shares can only go down; no credible asset to give it any market improvement. Until there is a change in the company's business, any price improvement is obviously due to loading so don't consider the shares for too long. I am talking from the experience of someone who got on the FO bus at 93 naira and jumped down at 19 naira because I can't handle the frustration anymore |
BullBearMkt:Thank you for your advice. I will monitor the stocks from the sideline to know when to sell them off |
Hello House, I didn't know this section has been in existence until April this year; I would have learnt some things that would have guided me better. I have been purchasing stocks since 2001 but passively joined the stock exchange as a participant in 2006 but gullibly held onto all my stocks till I lost almost all my portfolio in 2009. Now, that I seem to be getting things right, it seems the market is falling again; I am trying to dump some of my shares I suspect may continue losing its present value: FBNH, FO, GUARANTY, and OANDO for starters. Please, any advice for me. Likewise, AIICO seem interesting, is it reasonable to consider it on the short run and dump once the value starts falling? Thanks to all the big bosses for advice and direction |
buckolah:I finally opted for that of ABU because when i went for verification of UI EMBA,there was no clear cut information from the postgraduate school on how the programme is run and its price. I hope other people on this forum can help you out. Cheers |
Jejebaba:Wow. Thanks for your comment. So, I am stuck with the company except I want to sell at an immense loss. Let's see how the market reacts this week |
Coolcash1:So do you advise still keeping the stocks of Forte Oil or offloading it as the new company may devalue the share value? |
edude:My guess is it will be an interview, considering the fact that you are told to come with all original certificates. Nobody asks for certificates during tests but only during interviews. Best of luck |
KOPT33:Same thing your father would have wanted. Given that you were ignored or totally abandoned during the said sister's wedding, there is always a place for forgiveness and sympathy. Seriously, being a father requires many things including dropping ones ego and desires to satisfy that of one's children. Being the head of the family now puts your father's burden on you and I can't bet that no matter what, your dad will never watch in disorientation his daughter's marriage pack up like cards when he can mediate. This is even the best time to earn that head of family title as other than monetarily and responsibility-wise, there is also the emotional requirement for such roles. Take your time to study the situation, wade in where you can, settle them amicably then demand for completion of the marriage rites according to your custom; you will end up gaining not just your sister and mom's respect but that of your in-laws too. |
XhosaNostra:Sorry that you feel bad about some of my fellow Nigerian's attitude and name-calling. However, as you can see in all my replies and write-ups, I hold everybody in high esteem and objectively. I have also seen your characteristics reply and retort as being matured, which prompted me to ask that you keep it low without name calling. Thanks for the apology but I guess this is for everyone of us too; let us respect one another and make the best out of our respective countries. |
makydebbie:Those are challenges we are facing and I am looking forward to we the youths taking them up and resolving them in the bid to making Nigeria better rather than joining in the online tirade and blame games to the extent of devaluing ourselves; thinking the online desecration of our country doesn't affect us. I hope we get it right soon so that we can truly shelve any intention of running out of this country to places where we are only tolerated rather than being welcome. Hopefully when next you visit Nigeria, there will better power supply. |
XhosaNostra:Humm, while your arguments seem salient and objective, you went out of line by calling a country; my country, a godforsaken place. Nigeria may not be in the position it should be as the purported giant of Africa but for you a South African that Nigerians stood steadfastly behind during the apartheid days to call us godforsaken is appalling. I do see your arguments and somehow see you as objective but going the extreme of calling a country godforsaken is a big no. South Africa Is a very wonderful place to stay but it still has its own challenges yet it is far from being godforsaken; same applies to Nigeria. However, since so called Nigerians don't find it unpatriotic to call the country a shithole or zoo, a foreigner deems it fit too to call us godforsaken. I have you in high regards based on your objectivity online so please don't use such demeaning words for any African country irrespective of its challenges again. |
makydebbie:Since you have been to Nigeria before, you therefore have seen firsthand some of our challenges and I am sure it is not as bad as you implied by asking if there is light to charge phone. We still have transformers being bad, stolen etc. in Nigeria but I am sure this is not peculiar to Nigeria alone however making it sound as if Nigeria is still in the dark ages without light at all is erroneous. Since you came to Lagos for holiday last year, I will leave you to be truthful to yourself in your comparative analysis of the economical, structural, and developmental growth of both Ghana and Nigeria. That Nigerians make a mockery of its own country out of sheer stupidity, hate, political differences, ethnic dissensions etc doesn't make the country any less better or greater than it is presently and while I agree that Ghana is growing, it is not yet at the level of being better than Nigeria. |
makydebbie:Seriously, have you been to Nigeria before or you just believe wholeheartedly what some disgruntled online warrior type here? Nigeria is quite far from being perfect but it is not as bad as some of you think; do you know that there are areas in this same Nigeria where people have an average of over 18 hours light daily? I understand your grievance with the op chest beating and calling out Ghana but for you to ever imagine Nigeria in light of your retort means that you may never have visited Nigeria before. When you visit Nigeria and personally see things on ground, then we can discuss more appropriately; it is only a child who has never left his father's farm that relishes the idea of his father having the biggest farm ever. |
Notatribalist:Thank you. Sometimes we need to be objective about our argument, she talked about exchange rates relative to the naira; is she saying that every other country whose exchange rate is higher than Nigerian naira is better than Nigeria economically. Having visited Ghana, many things are working but don't get carried away; it is because of their size. If Ghana has just the kind of population of Nigeria South West; all their facilities will collapse as it can't sustain them. Also try and leave Accra and kumasi to visit the hinterlands of Ghana and you will understand that not all of Ghana is the way you see it. Nigeria may not have used much of its resources correctly nor positioned itself the way it should have been but comparing developmental growth of Ghana with Nigeria is a big fallacy. I keep hoping we get things right but for no reason should anyone demean Nigeria out of criticism, ethnocentrism, parochialism or sheer hate; the person who made that statement made an unfounded statement by comparing Nigeria with Ghana but at least South Africa can be considered developed enough but for someone to believe Ghana is better than Nigeria gives me the chills about how really educated our seemingly educated folks are. |
uuzba:I totally agree with you. God will help us all and empower the country to make the best use of its human resources. |
uuzba:You are still not getting me; I am not talking of the likes of your IT student, who is lazy and not ready to learn. I am talking of those who have it in them to make positive changes but not accorded any form of opportunity, yet being tagged unemployable. You mentioned Bill Gates; go back and read his biography and see that he came from a privileged home, which most of us cannot boast of. His real breakthrough was the opportunity to intern at IBM from where he was able to practically execute his OS project which is now known as Microsoft but how many big firms are giving out internship opportunities to the so called average kids here in Nigeria; except for Andela, most multinationals internship is now based on who you know. Now to the question of grades; it has been killing us from day one. We focus too much on grades and end up learning too much theory in order to graduate with first class and the likes while our foreign counterparts work on research and inventions. This is not to downplay the essence of taking our studies seriously; for example, I graduated with a distinction and second class upper which I did concurrently because I focused so much on graduating that way but what is the essence of such grades when we can't convert it to practical innovation; partly due to our level of exposure; thanks to the so called employers who called us unemployable or why do you think government is pushing so much for local content and technology transfer. The real essence of knowledge is in its ability to liberate; not just to have it. With the number of first class and distinction graduates we have in Nigeria, we should be able to better our lives and innovate, but like I and you know, the educational environment doesn't give much in terms of exposure and practical learning, yet the work environment too is now playing stereotype, so what is the future of the country with such a culture. Truth is if not for the large number of graduates being churned out in Nigeria; with employers being able to pick as they like, nobody will call another person unemployable. They have too many choices for the few openings relative to the number of willing workers or can the employers do the job all by themselves; it is not about entitlement but a symbiotic relationship thing. I really see where you are coming from but even though I am gainfully employed in a very good firm with over seven years experience, it is not just about me but every other person who desires such opportunity, so let us drop the unwholesome labeling of graduates as unemployable; let us all assist in working on their deficiencies while giving them opportunities to excel in what they know how to do best. Most celebrated inventors today are failures in other thing; Bill Gates just had a tennis match with Roger Federer to generate funds for a philanthropic venture but his inability to beat Federer doesn't make him a dunce; this is my exact argument. People should not be measured and called unemployable based on only our predefined metrics; tell me they have challenges and I will agree but to label them as unemployable is inadmissible. I however like your pattern of thinking; it shows self reliance and hope you can give the Nigerian graduates more opportunities to showcase what they have in them and you will agree with me that nobody is unemployable. |
uuzba:Check the bold statement; this is why we are not getting anywhere in this country. Inasmuch as organizations expect you to add your quota, they have a role to play in your training and career development. It is so funny you said teach you and pay you; the teaching and training is to empower you to do your job with expertise and technicality. Why are we building a different culture here in Nigeria whereas when you travel overseas, tools, training kits, mentoring and career development are part of what employers make available to you; this was s however practised in some multinationals. Not aiding employee development is one of the reasons employee's loyalty in Nigeria is at the minimum as the employee has nothing to gain from his organization other than monetary compensation while he is being milked dry hence, immediately he sees a higher paying employer, he resigns and moves on without any feeling; such culture needs to be changed. |
uuzba:You made a very good point by requesting that we add value to organizations to earn our keep but I guess that is a digression from my grouse. My advocacy is a level playing ground for all applicants; giving the unemployed opportunities to learn and give their best to job opportunities than asking for 10 years experience from people you put age limit of 28 years on. Now to the issue of value, the business environment is highly competitive and demands ingenuity; most Nigerian organizations maintain stereotype operations such that things are done the way it has been done in the past without support for innovation and flexibility. Staff members who may want to bring about change are scorched and castigated using the parlance of 'don't outshine your master' therefore limiting the input of creative workers, yet they blame all workers at the end of the day, when evidently, they were never given the required opportunity. In conclusion, I am not talking of the lazy worker who just needs a job to get by and make salaries; I am talking of those who crave to make things happen yet not given the opportunity and unfortunately labelled as unemployable. |
I weep for this country; the majority of our educated youths are unemployed. Having gone through the hardship of academic stress in our tertiary institutions, we cannot but wait for that day when our hardwork would pay off. Unfortunately, we are now out of school and still awaiting that day when we would be gainfully employed. We are yet to stop depending on our parent's benevolence; not because we are not trying to get a job but because the employers wouldn't employ us. The painful part is sometimes, we are so sure we did wonderfully well during the interview yet we never get the offer. Sometimes, the employers promise to get back to us, but if we wait for eternity, we still wouldn't get called. Based on all these unwholesome events, we tend to begin to believe that we are actually unemployable as quoted by the op; whom I so much respect but disagree with on this assertions. I have only six things to tell you about the lies they tell us. 1. They say majority of us are unemployable just to cover up for the fact that they never wanted to employ us in the first place. It is just a case of calling the dog a bad name just to hang it or how do you explain going through five stages of an interview only to be dropped at the last stage due to no verifiable justification. 2. They demand from us what they themselves do not have or how can we explain employers asking for a number of professional affiliations and certifications which the employer apparently does not have. They joined a system that aided their career development through these trainings and certifications but they in turn expect you to have it before joining the organization. 3. They ask you to cheapen yourself by trying to underpay you or in the case of the ladies, make you go the long mile, only for you to reject such advances then they later come and say you are not qualified. 4. They use recruiting firms to employ you so as to contract you as a contract worker; these were same positions and job role for which they were gainfully employed as of their own time. In the recruitment process, they would set questions most of them cannot confidently answer well just for them to make majority of the applicants fail; this is easily observed in job test where applicants are asked questions not related to either the job being applied for now the experience expected to carry out such roles; why measure a fish capabilities based on its inability to climb a tree. 5. They make us apply for job openings that they have either filled up or have already handpicked people they wish to give the slots to; Nepotism is the order of the day. 6. More than 85% of applicants for any job opening would end up not getting the job because there are limited openings. However, it is in less than 10% of Nigeria job openings that applicants are selected on merit. In conclusion, do not be deceived, you are not the problem, work harder on becoming better, gain new skills and don't ever give up; you will get your own job. |
bedspread:President Buhari awarded the scholarship to Idakwaoji Daniel Omonu from FCT who came 1st, Ajisafe Solomon from Ogun State who came 2nd and Master Akingbulugbe Oluwatobiloba from Ondo State who came third. |
That girl's temperament is something else; she is also condescending and egocentric. Tobi however needs to call her bluff by addressing her with lesser dint of admiration and totally ignore her. She feels the world of herself and the only reason she has been hitting out at Tobi is because he allowed it; best way to handle such girls is to pretend they don't exist. |
trublvr:You have made so much points which I agree on as I am also a student but I disagree on some cogent points too; I will take your complaints one by one. * on issue of physical lecture, it is basically an online program with lecture notes provided to guide us but no physical class. However, etutor are supposed to run online tutorials for the students for clarifications of class notes. I however observed most of them do not; this is something we need to take up with the school. * on results not being given, there was a platform for complaints and resolution of results issue. I however saw all my results and that of three people close to me who are also running the course. I know some people complained initially and by the time the school was releasing the final results in October, corrections had been made. * on the issue of not grading your work, the responsibility is that of the etutor, who you should follow up on. I did that last semester when I observed no grading for 2 of my CAs; the etutor finally uploaded it. The issue, like I first mentioned are the etutors who sometimes don't complete the upload of CAs as at when due hence the collation becomes hard and results are affected. * on the issue of support, while I have complained about three issues to them, they have responded at all times; albeit sometimes late, but I believe they are trying, they just need to work more effectively. *on the issue of fee structure, most of us started with prerequisites to administration courses; having not graduated in the administrations. Prerequisites cost 10k per module while core and electives cost 20k per module hence it is understandable why we had to pay more in second semester than first semester. *In terms of tribalism, I have not experienced any though the tendencies are there but this is relative; it depends on individuals. Note: I really salute your courage in expressing challenges you are facing on the program but like I once heard a wise man say, when life gives you lemon instead of orange, add sugar and make lemonade our of it. ABU MBA is a good platform to learn, make friends and project yourself in the administration of key organizational functions, so just see it from another perspective. It is not totally what I will call sterling but from the Nigerian context of most MBA programmes, I will still rate it as above average. |


