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brocab:
Do I have to repeat this, everyone knows through the Word, Jesus was under the law, but your understanding of {Matthew 23:23} as tithing Christians this scripture is used to lie against the truth. Plus {Mark 12:17} and this is another scripture being used out of place, just for the tithers greed.
If only you read the Word of God equally, instead relying on just one.
It makes life difficult for you, that you have many members on the same page, I understand why none of you learn anything-your job is simple, by the push of a button your page is solved.
I don't believe you are saved-one of your members is a JW.
{Galatians 2:21, 5:4} For righteousness comes through the law, Christ died in vain-You have become estrangled from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by the law, you have falling from grace.

You don’t have to insult tithers and givers . Just because you don’t .

Matthew 22:21 (KJV Strong's)
Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

congorasta:
the poor need the word of God

Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. . .

Matthew 11:5
The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.

Acts 20:32
And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

u are a disgrace to the kingdom of God

Your ignorance is a disgrace rather

CarlyX8:
No be ridicule, am doing this

1 Timothy 5:20 Translation (GW)

Reprimand those leaders who sin. Do it in front of
everyone so that the other leaders will also be afraid.

You're not his pastor. Timothy was given instructions to rebuke his members under him . It's not members that rebuke pastor .

1 Timothy 5:1 (KJV)
Rebuke not an elde;

MuttleyLaff:
What is giving Satan sleepless nights, is the fear of people becoming aware of the revolutionary way of giving, which at all times, is devoid of a fixed percentage or tithe

That's personal opinion ,not based on any scripture.

Nothing personal

Glad to hear that .

I need to correct a lie.
I wonder why some, don’t want others to see the error when and where they are being misled and demanded to give tithe

It's not man that demanded. It's the word.

There is no must in giving, talkless of a must to give tithe.

There is no must in fasting and prayer ether . It's an issue of necessity . You do it you get the benefit . You give to the poor you get the benefit .

It is nowhere written, to say exactly how much must be given or must be done.

There was no written document in the days of Abraham . Probably because he was illiterate but moses was well Schooled and oracle of God was penned down for reference in his days . They are still available for us today .

It however, is written, that, without prejudice, you give how much you have decided in your heart, you give what you are please with and won't be sorrowful about it at the end of or after the giving

You didn't state your reference

The percentage you give is not fixed or stipulated.
You can decide to give 1%,
Or decide to give 10% today, as in 10% equals a tenth or tithe.
Decide to give half or 50% tomorrow,
Decide to give all or 100%, the following day.
Decide to give nothing or 0% another day
Decide to give 1% again some other day

As we can see, there is nothing fixed.
Giving is not cast in a tithe or 10% stone.
Anyone that tells you different,
has a low understanding of each tithe mentions in the bible, particularly the tithe Abraham performed
and doesn't appreciate the revolutionary way of giving for the purpose of the Kingdom

Abraham was a prophet . Prophets do have revelations of divine principles . If God birthed the mystery of the tithe through Abraham just as he birthed prayer and worship in the days of Seth . Why would we question such things especially if God didn't reveal anything comtrary . God has ministers and prophets in every generation Abrahan , Enoch had insight into Gods mysteries . I will appreciate you read the BOOK OF ENOCH .

Joyphoenix:
Are you not a christian . How can you be calling another poster GOAT ! Over the Word of God.

Leave him. By their fruits....

2 Timothy 2:24 (KJV)
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

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If we seek truth ,let's be honest . Is nicest a sin?

gabe:
See how you are quoting OT laws just because it's tithing

It has become OT now? But when daddy freeze was posting his trash with OT it was ok Abi.

Laws Christ refused to burden his followers with

Error ! Jesus says to give tithe .

Matthew 23:23
. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things

To justify 'principles' described not by Christ

Matthew 22:21 (KJV)
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

his apostles,

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Realali:
So all of una inside the court think say she go leave Canada come Nigeria for such stupid case make una wait for her till Jesus come ok

It's now it's a stupid case. But you were rejoicing when she was posting interview making claims she has evidence to present in court against a man she had never met face to face .

diva90:
Are you minding the adulterous so called pastor. I only feel bad for his church pple and supporters who have been misled.

Where Did you witness him commit adultery? And why is your girl not resent in court to release her rombost proof . They saturated YouTube with claims that they have detail proof . The apostle claim they never met face to face . Wey Una proof of flight ticket ,records,hotel CCTV, etc etc bla bla

VisioDirect:
SUNDAY SERMON: THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHING

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in Chap. 3, Mr Jones?

I’ve seen this funny article before .God wasn’t talking to priest last but a nation . I hope if I have time to do a thread on it

esere826:
Like I said about Petra1 recently, he has indeed tried by bringing in some "logic"
Thanks to him, For the first time in my many years as a christian, I have seen new points of view in the pro-tithe argument

Well it’s Not a new logic . I have been saying the same thing for years. And my point is this . I believe there is something special about the Tithe . And I will explain . You know the anti tithing campaign has been hijacked by non givers who want to excuse their greedy conscience .

Tithing is only a small portion of giving . The original antitihers are honest people who feel tithing limits them they give far beyond . So they feel a christian doesn’t need restriction . How could I be giving 100 naira out of 1,000 I could just give the whole 1,000 . Some people even began to give 20% 30% . I was giving 20% as tithe for many years until I studied it again and Said to myself . If God says 10 it should be 10 no more no less. That doesn’t stop any other things I want to give .

Now the issue here is . Some individual are just anti church . They portray church as a 419 centre . They are against every form of giving . They only use tithe as a launch pad . They claim tithe is for isreal offering is for the church . My point to them is that both tithe and offering were mentioned in the law . Including fasting and prayer . Why is it tithe that is on trial . They campaign for the poor . But alms for the poor was for isrea also . Instead of answering the question they resort into banter and personal attacks. We have to be honest if we’re seeking truth.

kellybee95:
guy.... its obvious ur lack insight.... i just hope that ur not too broke b4 u realize the truth... just like jesus said ur part of the GOATS {not an insult o} that were sent to the left.. mat 5.... so keep wallowing in ur ignorance God Help you.......

What kind of giving do you do ? Or you don’t give at all?

plainbibletruth:
1. Why have you not been able to show us the "principle" on TITHING from the life of the Church in the New Testament.

2. Show us and the matter will be settled once and for all

The church didn’t need to make a new law on tithing they already have the scriptures . Paul also gave a parallel illustration in 1 cor 9:13-14

3. Is the Christian under GRACE?

Sure

If so, what does that mean as far as his giving is concerned? Focus your response on giving or tithing so that the matter is clear. Don't bring in other issues that may confuse us. Any other deductions will be mere SPECULATION on your part.

There is no confusion where honesty is . Kindly look at the spirit of the illustration . It’s a point I was bringing out. We are not afraid of the truth are we ?

[quote]4. One case of ours is this: If tithing is as serious as you guys are making it out to be, to such an extent that a church leader will attach curse to it, then it is critical that we see where the CHURCH is told she must practice it

The curse is a principle from the Bible . And it’s not over tithe only . He said they rob him
In TITHES and OFFERING . So you can’t be giving offering without giving the tithe . It’s hypocricy

5. So, please, in case we missed it, show us again this "principle", AS IT RELATES TO TITHING, from the epistles since you said it cuts across dispensations.

1cor 9:14

I will like you to also show me where incest is condemned for the church

Peacefullove:
Christians clearly condemn homosexuality among themselves . I can't stop laughing at the ridiculous assumptions just to fight for something not practiced by those who started Christianity .

The Bible differentiated between adultery , fornication , incest etc .

Let me put it this way for you . If a guy and a lady tells you they planned to get married and they are biological brother and sister . What will be your counsel as a christian.

salvation101:
well going with ur logic, all of Jesus teachings are only for the Israelite cos for all the years he was on earth he spoke to only ppl in Israel but Paul the apostle said we are now the Israel of God in christ whether jews or gentiles

Beautiful analogy . If tithing is only for the new then alms giving , fasting , prayer , offering , is only for the Jews . That’s what I’ve been trying to comunicate . Why will Satan single out the tithe. It only confirms the spiritual importance of the tithe

Abudu2000:
nah nah, we ain't haters. We just want to know that at least some of it will go to the poor who needs it the most and not some nonsense assets like cars and other canal things

Money for TV programme goes to TV programme . What the poor needs is the word of God (Gospel)
Poverty is First a state of mind
Secondly they can be empowered to do business and work . It’s only the church that has been doing this . You don’t need to monitor the church . You do your act of service period .

Joyphoenix:
Pastor still dey give tithe?

A pastor who does business gives tithe .
A pastor who has a job gives tithe
A pastor who receives Stepends from church must still give tithe from the Stepends .

Martinez19:
it is only a foolish idiot that will believe pastors give tithe.

Find out . Don’t just swallow all the anti church lies you see here.

Martinez19:
Petra1, since daddy freeze started this anti-tithe move you have not had peace. Did daddy freeze hit a soft spot in you? or do you in person profit from tithe and feel the need to protect the pastorpreneurship business that has fed you this far? or have you been dreaming of participating in pastorpreneurship business?

You have been trying hard to convince the sheeples that tithing is a mandatory spiritual principle. Daddy freeze really did shake you

Nothing personal. I need to correct a lie . I wander why some of you don’t want to see the error where he misled .

BERNIMOORE:
you , you tried to play along saying you are not comfortable with people not able to attend schools built with tithe monies

Did he say the schools were build with tithes monies

I thought she was boasting about evidence she has etc . Abi na empty boast ?

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People will always get Blessed by giving . It’s a law . And there’s nothing you can do about . Plus all the devils of hell put together

Hofbrauhaus:
Where is festus keyamo? I guess he has ran away..Where is Elrufia? They have all left their pun! And now Otobo Is alone in the world cos she has been used and dumped.

You can't lie against a man of God and expect not to pay! You must pay!

Suleiman must see to it that a lesson is made out of this girl...so that another nonsense like this would not repeat.

His only crime was speaking against killing of Christians in Kaduna and fulani herdsmen...Zombies were let loose on him..a sarrki or two started attacking the man of God, an hungerbad and an antiwailer plus other children of hate started screaming on the top of their voices...

Look at where we are today...Keyamo has ran away..Otobo is missing...

No matter has far lie travels, it must surely be overtaken by truth...

Yes o

McBeal10:
why does this feel staged tho

Everything is always stagged to you guys . Don’t you see the swollen face

planetzoom:
i refuse to be carried away by the Grievous error being circulated by one archdevil from hell called Daddy freeze,who in his characteristically demonic manner,is trying to upturn well established scriptures to stand on thier head. As a matter of fact,tithing predates Adeboye or any other pastor. Tithes have become part of christianity since the times of the Apostles and it has its roots in the scriptures.Daddy freeze and his admirers can spend the rest of their lives advocating against it,it aint gonna change nothing. God bless all tithers who honor God with their substances.

Nice contribution

kellybee95:
it is obvious that you lack understanding because if u dont understand what you are saying.... to start with everything freeze tells you is what he has read from the bible... so if you say he lied that means you dont read and understand its in det 14. read 4 urself

Did you read my post at all? Or just the title carried you away . I know many Nigerians hardly read . Kindly read my post .

and secondly the tithes where to be collected by the levites so ur pastor whose ancestor is not levi has no right to collect it cause they are not levites and nothing like spiritual livites. that is what they decive you with.

Levite only collected tithes and offerings under levitical the order . Was Melchizedek who tithe from Abraham a Levite? . Christ is our high priest now in the order of Melchizedek . We are not in Levitical order

also, the desciples only collected offerings and not tithe they dare not collect tithe because they are not levites themselves dont be confused. and dont conclude for the bible that it was not mentioned means they never practised it....

Your are wrong . Levites and priests collected the offerings and tithes . They were the ministers of Gods sanctuary Then. In this new dispensation God still has ministers whom he has called . Most of them are volunteers few are full time.

acts 6 explains even why offerings they collected started there was murmur in the church so they started collecting those offerings to meet the needs of the members of the body of christ and the bible recorded that nobody lacked after that...

Don’t talk about what you don’t know . Someone like you should rather be asking questions and not trying to teach . The priblem in the early church was about serving food not about offering

Acts 6:1
. Those who spoke only Greek complained that their widows were being discriminated against, that they were not being given as much food in the daily distribution as the widows who spoke Hebrew.

It does happen . I have met couple of others . But it’s demonic . When the spirit of clairvoyance is cast out they will be free

Daddy freez and antitithers will faint !!!!!

festwiz:
hahahaha
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When jesus walked the earth, who paid him tithe? When he told his disciple to go from door to door preaching the gospel, he told them to only wear a sandal and accept food and shelter when given. I don't know the verses, can't remember them. Pay your tithes if you want to. You can make up any morally justifiable reason to do so.
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Please, don't mention me. I have a life to live.

Are you saying Jesus didn’t receive money ? Judas was the treasurer

FASTING IS A LAW FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT . Why should we fast .

wirinet:
This is a parable of Jesus in which he condemned a Pharisee who feels justified because he fasts and pay tithe and exalted a publican who felt he was a sinner because he does not observe these religious rites.

Jesus illustrated based on the structure they had .

You just nailed your coffin

My coffin was nailed at the cross

Jesus does not care about tithing and fasting. .

Says only you . Tithing is a principle , fasting is a principle they are eternal

Pheals:
I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong?

Sure you’re wrong. You give your tithe in your local assembly. What you give to the poor is called alms . You can’t use one giving to replace another . Just as you cannot give to God what you ought to give to your parents . Jesus Eben rebuked that

Mark 7:11 (NLT)
11 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’

You see there are different kinds of givings . You have done well by doing giving of alms What you should do is to go and give your tithe in your local church if you still can