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fellowman:Tithes could be money or material is your pastor a levite?In a sense yes . Was Melchizedek a Levite . He was a minister . That’s the similarity . |
miketayo:Any minister who serve God on full time bases can be classified as such administratively 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. didn't Jesus Nd his disciples pay tithes also[quote]Well it’s not recorded but Pastors do pay tithesWe are not tithing because it’s a Jewish law . We are tithing because It’s a spiritual law and principle . It existed before the Jewish nation but tithing is d only Jewish law they insist on following, they can as well get paid from offeringsSure , Tithes and offeings are eternal principles . We pay tithe in my church but its extremely voluntary, even the priest didn't encourage it.Tithing is a necessity . It’s like asking if prayer is mandatory |
plainbibletruth:No need for harsh word . Present your case and leave it there . Did you really read my post?Me keh? That’s you guys specialty na . I no dey fight See again one of the things I wrote :If God wanted ANYTHING before Christ to be included in the New Covenant he would say so. The focus of the New Covenant is Christ alone from start to finish.The focus of Gods Kindom has always been christ . God is not writing new bible for the christian . Theo Word of God was the Old Testament which they study in the churches . The part done away are the part that christ has fulfilled . So you can’t condemn any thing just because it’s contained in the Old Testament . Because it will be hypocritical .principles in the worship of God run across the ages . Some before the law , some in the law . I have asked you questions which you have been avoiding . If you condemn tithe only the bases of the law how about the so many other things that are practiced in the church yet they were in the law ? Why do you give offerings Is incest legalized now? Not to talk of others like murder or idolatry . Why is it tithe that is focused on So, anything from the old that is still essential for the Christian life will be found in the EPISTLES.Is in incest a sin ? |
^^^^^^^ Error , if that’s the case why do you still give offering ,?pray, worship , fast and give alms to the poor were they not part of the law as well . Sin is transgression of Gods law . Without the law there will be lawlessness |
miketayo:For the service of the house of God and also for the welfare of the Levite or priest who were exclusively devoted to the work of God. Numbers 18:21-25 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. That's y I said u need to ask a Jew how it's done.. they still share it amongst d poor in d temple.You don’t need to ask a Jew . You only need to open your bible and read . Tithe to God is not for the poor but for the welfare of the ministers of the sanctuary . But there is another 10% they lay aside for the poor every 3 years . It is different from the tithe to God. Deuteronomy 14:28-29 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest. |
miketayo:Almsgiving is important as well . But the tithe yo God is used for the work of God . |
Tithes and offerings are eternal principles in worship of God . TITHING started as far back as the days of Abraham before the law ever came ABRAHAM TITHED Genesis 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all JACOB TITHED Genesis 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee. GOD MADE IT LAW WHEN HIS PEOPLE CAME OUT OF EGYPT TO WORSHIP HIM Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord. JESUS TAUGHT THAT WE SHOUKD TITHE Matthew 23:23 . . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. Matthew 22:21 , Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. JESUS INSTRUCTED THE CHURCH ON TITHE AS A PARRALEL PRINCIPLE Numbers 18:21-25 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. |
Grace001:Numbers 18:24 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. |
miketayo:You didn't read it. He didn't talk about Gods tithe which is the main one. Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord. . He carefully omitted it .He capitalized on inability of people homeless won't study the Bible . He now dwel on insignificant 10% that was used for feast . And replaced it as though that's what Gods tithe is used for . Gods tithe is Gods tithe . That not what is used for feast ,nor for the poor |
aribisala0:Nice one, whatever is not condemn or fulfilled in Christ still stands |
aribisala0:God Really ? when did Babylonian civilization start?Civilization began in Egypt . Later, later Babylon rose .simply means tenth. Which may be given as tax to government,share of profits ,to God etc. Tithe as a form of taxation existed long before Abraham and in the land that Abraham and his father lived If Jacob knew about the act of tithing from his father or not we are not told by the bible that is a guess. Tax is to govern,ent ,tithe is to God Matthew 22:21 . . ., Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's He certainly knew about circumcision.Why did he not make a vow about circumcision? That was a clear commandment.Maybe the lesser is in the greater. You tell us If there was a commandment about tithes then what sense is there in making a vow about itWhat you forgot is that he didn't vow about tithe only . He also said God will be his God. Was God not his God already? Hope you're getting the point . It was like an affirmation . If a ,an says " GOD IF YOU DEKIVER ME FROM THIS TROUBLE I WILL SERVE YOU FOREVER . Does that mean he wasn't serving God? Jews do not make vows to keep the Sabbath or not eat pork and so on but they still make vows.They made vows Many times |
miketayo:Read my exposition on his error here :https://www.nairaland.com/4169634/error-daddy-freeze |
miketayo:He misquoted scriptures . Read his errors biblically here :https://www.nairaland.com/4169634/error-daddy-freeze |
Justbright:Okay Bible don't condemned tithingNice that you know BT d problem with d pastors are dey failed to let their gullible and lazy congregations who are lazy to study d world knows Dat tithing is not mandatory,I didn’t use the word mandatory . I prefer the word necessary . It is a necessity for a child of God to give tithes and offering to God just as it is a necessity to pray and fast as a child or God and also dey(pastors) are not d only ones that has d sole right to collect tithe[/quote]Tithes and offerings are given to God |
ofai:Our responses are not just for them sir . You can’t convince a man who ha made up his mind not to believe . But the response is for posterity and other viewers . |
lonikit:Did the Bible say he didn’t ? Christ endorsed tithing . Matthew 23:23 . . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. likewise the apostles??1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. are u we suppose to do what Christ didn't doChrist didn’t condemn homosexuality Christ didn’t condemn incest. Does it mean they can be legalize now? |
aribisala0:Tithes and offering are given to God in worship Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord. Tithe is an old English word for tenth. =10%[/quote]Wrong , the Bible was not written in English Tithe is the same as tenth given to anyone.Wrong. Tithe existed before Babylonia civilization . It is given to God . The question you should ask is how did Jacob give his tithe? Was it to a priest or temple or was it in burnt offeringsHe gave it to whom he promised to give it to -GOD Genesis 28:22 (NLT) 22 And this memorial pillar I have set up will become a place for worshiping God, and I will present to God a tenth of everything he gives me.” The question you should rather be asking yourself is how Jacob knew about the act of tithing to God - through isaac his father and how did isaac got to know about tithe , through Abraham his father. Because God already testified for Abraham faithfulness to preserve the principles of God in his linage . Genesis 18:19 (NIV) 19 For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him.” |
generaliy:It’s a spirit of the last day . Satan is testing his plans but it has failed . It’s amazing that the people support him are so blind to read the Bible for themselves |
aribisala0:Is it an angel that told you this or the Bible . God says clearly he gave tithe . Tithe is a spiritual act given to God . Jacob also promise God his tithe . Genesis 28:22 (NLT) 22 And this memorial pillar I have set up will become a place for worshiping God, and I will present to God a tenth of everything he gives me.” |
Samsimple:It’s a testimony . How God brings beauty out of ashes . 1 Corinthians 1:27-29 (NLT) . . .God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful. 28 God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important. 29 As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God. |
Goodyshoes:Tithes and offerings are given to God . God blesses us for our giving . Is God against material things . Hope you read the scripture I posted earlier |
Goodyshoes:So what’s your point then because it’s all sounding contradictory to me Those are two mutually exclusive notions.So who says it takes people to heaven . Is it only things that take people to heaven you preach . Does fasting take people to heaven? Does intercession take people to heaven ? Does it mean you don’t teach on such ? They are strictly old testament doctrines, and were not advanced by Christ as writtenWhat is the old testament doctrine ? I want you, if you will, to show where He advanced that. Using any reference you choose.I still don’t get you . I don’t believe I’m heading. What I seem to be hearing . What’s all these issues about proving what take to heaven or not If you, as a christian, is verily bothered about the salvation of man, then material things like money and tithes wouldn't be a priority and you wouldn't feel hurt when the notion/doctrine is challenged, whether or not it's challenged by a Christian.The kingdom of God is broad . You don’t just seat on one corner of the road . Worshiping God with your substance is part of Gods kingdom . Living in dominion , Living in health , prosperity, Dominion’ over sin are all part of the package . 3 John 1:2 2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. |
Goodyshoes:Very funny .Firstly christians already have Salvation . It’s only those who are saved that can serve God by the practice of Godly principle . Secondly it is erroneous to say something should not be preached because it’s not prerequisite to Salvation . Let me ask you a question . Is fasting prerequisite to Salvation ? Should it be preached ? |
Grace001:How come Jesus didn't talk about homosexuality to condemn it ? Is that enough to legalize it. But he talked about tithe . Matthew 23:23 “. . . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. |
Ranchhoddas:He only preaches about christ in you , have you ever heard him preach on money ? Your false accusations are unfounded |
Veraatabeh:Good point . |
Goodyshoes:It doesn't make sense . Nobody ever preached tithe as prerequisite to salvation . Exceot invention of daddy freeze |
Davidds25:Buhari didn't go to church |
MuttleyLaff:WOF advocate won't attack tithe na |
Olive tree bible . There’s also bible online free. Just kindly search |
obailala:.[/quote]What do you say about the verse then Ephesians 6:1-2 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise ![]() |
obailala:When Jesus taught on new law LOVE . Mosaic law was still in operation . Jesus was not limited by mosaic law . He made modicfication on sabbath and other issues he felt were not perfect |
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