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Gombs:
But olaadegbu, the holier than thou hypocrite won't let folks
See him hanging on to straws, I'd prefer he stay that way, my point was to openly call him a hypocrite.

Same guy said Christianity isn't about miracles, but holiness and salvation, yet he wallowed all over a thread like a pig who just spotted a mud pool, celebrating miracles because Kumuiyi was involved.

Now see him trying to to shift goal posts. He's claiming someone said Chris Oyakhilome can't sin. Do you remember the wedding 'scandal' of Kumuiyi 's son? Oh dear! Come and see Olaadegbu's defense. As far as he's concerned, Christianity outside what he knows isn't the "real deal".

Now, since Sunday Adelaja was accused of adultery with like 20 women, Olaadegbu didn't rush here to create a thread calling him what he'd like, why? Because Kumuiyi visited that church? How come Kumuiyi is still a true man of God and Chris Oyakhilome isn't, since they both visited churches of 'controversial pastors'?

Funny olaadegbu

Funny thread ... But sadly has lots of truths. one of the area our highly esteemed ola need to judge himself is the area of gossip about churches and ministers . God never give anyone such assignment. He always claim he's exposing evil . But the funny part is that . He ought to have started the cleansing from his church . But the exposé is always about others . The dramatic part of it is that even when other people do exposé on the wrongs and crimes of pastors and leaders from DLBC Ola turns blind eye or denies the individual. Saying things like "HES NOT ONE OF OUR PASTORS " "who ordained him ". Etc .My own is It's only the devil who can give someone the ministry of publishing evil report of the church in open forum . And if you believe it's a ministry from God kindly start with your church .

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

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The Greek word for that passage is Camelos and not gamla. It's making reference to camel and not rope

OmoPastor:
How do you know the poor?

It's relative . I can say it's
Is Anyone who is less privileged than you

Gombs:
Clearly, Jesus paid the ransom for our lives to God. That ransom was His own life, the shedding of His own blood, a sacrifice. Due to His sacrificial death, each person on earth has the opportunity to accept that gift of atonement and be forgiven by God. For without His death, God's Law would still need to be satisfied—by our own death.

It wasn't a negotiations in my opinion. Besides, do you think God had a covenant with Jesus?

Well we have to go back to the Old Testament and check the prophecies made concerning this new covenant . Let me start with Jeremiah . I will publish the rest as I can remember .


Jeremiah 31:31-33
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord,
that I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
in the day that I took them by the hand
to bring them out of the land of Egypt;
which my covenant they brake,
although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the Lord,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

There are lions in isreal. As well as bear. Just as BENIN kingdom had leopards which were even used as dogs in the kings palace . They are no longer existing in BENIN but that doesn't take away the fact that they existed there.

If the story has truth in it , so what happened to the pastor?

@Gombs ,

The new covenant by the blood of christ is between who and who?

onetrack:
Or tested for food colouring.

HardMirror:
So winner01 are you spirit filled? Does the holy spirit commune with you?
Gombs, joagbaje and the rest. Are you spirit filled and are sure you have communication with God?

Can you ask God some questions on our behalf?

Ask your question

Samples of the blood should be taken for DNA test

SOBSISRAEL:
I don't understand what killed him please?

It is very dangerous to go beyond 40 days in a fast .From my study on this , After few days of fast , hunger goes away as the body is rid of poison . But about 40 days after ,hunger returns and the fast has to end . If you don't end the fast is fatal . Jesus became hungry 40 days . Moses fasted 40 days ,Elijah fasted 40 days . But when the pastor want to beat Jesus record that means after 40 days he continued fasting even when hunger retuned . That's what killed him. Another thing that can kill in a fast is if the individual tries to break with heavy meal. When you break after a heavy fast it has to be gradual. Little sip of Water first, then juice, and fruit gradually solid food can come after few days . If not it can lead to death

MuttleyLaff:
No, they all don't say the same thing.
What then is my pay?
It is the opportunity to preach the Good News without charging anyone.
That's why I never demand my rights when I preach the Good News.
- 1 Corinthians 9:18 NLT

That makes it clear he had rights . He just denied himself . It's his personal decision . If you embark on a fast that doesn't mean everyone should give up their food .

Having a child shouldn't be an issue . You can marry her and take the child as your own . That's should be your best way of showing your love for her. A lady like that will be very attached to her child and she will love any man who will embrace the child as a father . It is not who impregnate a lady that is father but the man who raise a child is the real father . Above all these . It's the will of God that counts . And you should give yourself to christ if you haven't .

dadabashua1:
what am about to share with you have been happening for some years now, and am beginning to be worried, most at times when am alone there is this very big bright star that always appear, after some seconds it will vanish, sometimes it appears on the wall in my room, beside my pillow on the bed and sometimes on my ceiling... it have been like that for some years now,and its not showing sign of stopping anytime soon.

Get to a minister to pray for you.

MuttleyLaff:
You can take a pick out of any of the over 50 translations from the above other than TLB

Whatever translation you pick are still saying THESAME thing. Ministering to the teachers or paying them . Which flaws the op's idea


What theory might that be?

Paying indeed with what?
Preferably money. Right, isnt it?

Cash and kind either

Repeating the sense of entitlement to filthy lucre always betrays some
and is the for reason for prefering and always quoting using The Living Bible (TLB)

It's just to give better understanding that's all

MuttleyLaff:
So do you accept that paying tithe should not be mandatory?
Do you accept that, it is immoral to cajole believers to pay tithe or make it mandatory that they pay tithe?

It's necessity just like offering , prayer, worship and other spiritual principles . You do them you enjoy the benefit ,you don't do them you miss their benefit.

Thou art the chosen one na. Don't blame others . Just do it without complaining

frubben:
The version said "HELP" not cajoled or mandatory.

Nobody is talking about mandatory giving here or cajoled except thee

Scholar8200:
Grace and Truth came by Jesus and here's what HE said:

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

John 15:6-8

Implication is:
1. The Vine holds the branch yet the branch in HIM that is fruitless will be cast forth! Whither your claims of Eternal security, once saved always saved? Or predestination?

2. Note that the branch to be cast forth was once IN the Vine! This knocks down your claims that some people that backslid in the NT were not actually saved.

3. We are saved by faith but if that faith does not , by the Indwelling Spirit(not by self-effort or struggling), reveal itself in fruitfulness we are cast forth just like Israel was and we CANNOT lay claims to be His disciples! And in the end, we shall be told,"I never knew you"

Nice point

EmmaFantastic:
THRASH!!!
No offence.

How?

MuttleyLaff:
Paying them indeed.
Paying them with what?
Preferably money, right, isnt it?

The sense of entitlement to filthy lucre always betrays some
and is the for reason for prefering and always quoting using The Living Bible (TLB)

Out over 50 bible translation versions, it is only the paraphrasing The Living Bible (TLB) version that uses paying them in Galatians 6:6

So which translation should we take . And Why criticize a translation just because it faults your theory . Na me write bible ?

advice:
It's a big lie

I am going through marriage class in Christ Embassy now and nothing of such is happening

Check your facts dear

Stop lying

More witnesses . God bless you

iAmCharis:
This is a pure lie. I'm a member of CE and paying of tithes is not a requirement for church marriage.
.

Thank you

TO ALL READERS . DONT BE MISLED BY THESE KIND OF STORY. ITS A PURE LIE. LETS ASK A SIMPLE COMMON SENSE QUESTION. HOW WOULD A PASTOR KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE MADE IN NUMBER OF YEARS TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE YOUR TITHE . IS HE THE BANKER TO KNOW THE AMOUNT THE GUY HAS BEEN. MAKING EITHER IN BUNSINESS OR GIFT ?

Elsquidme:
so you're implying he LIED?

Of course he lied . Either him or his uncle . It's not a CEC practice . Tithe is not a bondage .as much as it's necessary to pay tithe. It's still left for individual to demonstrate their love and faith

michaelobinna:
so because I intend to get married and I inform the pastor about and who in turn decided to pray about or some of those things u listed above means they should delay me for a more than a year ....

It's only if they were living together that they may be asked to separate . For about a year.

But the story you gave is not true . How can the church mandate you to pay tithes before marriage . Is it anybody's business if I pay my tithe or not? It's between me and the God I worship.

michaelobinna:
This is not an attack on any church

1. Their unpaid tithes since they have been attending the church was calculated and it amounted to 1.2 million naira which must be paid before they are joined together

You and your uncle are a joke rather. There's no such doctrine in CEC . We worship God with our tithes and offering as bible commands but it's not a criterial for marriage . It may be a criteria for being a leader or a pastor but not marriage . If they have issue with marriage . It may range from , medical test, family approval, attending foundation school , cell meetings ,marriage classes . If they were cohabiting , church may stop the relationship , if test reveal pregnancy , the marriage get cancelled . They may only do marriage blessing .

lordnicklaus:
Fellow Christians, this question recently came into my mind. If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the Tree of Knowledge, would we have had the abililty to think independently or would we have been beings designed to be uncivilised and unaware of it? Remember, the fruit opened their eyes, and they realised they were naked......

Is this fruit the major cause of the freewill we possess?

Cc KingEbukaNaija winner01 malvisguy212 Scholar8200

It's a tree of discernment. It gives man ability to judge right and wrong . The tree was not an evil tree. It was meant for man to eat . But they eat it prematurely

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

fyneboi79:
It is disheartning to say the least to note that Christ Embassy members are the most foolish people i have encountered in my life.How can Chris and Anita Oyahkhilome both pastors go though a divorce and still have people trooping after them. Gosh!!! They have just broken one of the greatest principles in the bible and yet foolish people attend their churches in divided loyalty system. Shame on all Christ Embassy congregation.

If your wife divorces you will you quit your job ? You are still who you are despite . It's the person that left you should be preaching to

5solas:
When the Bible tells us we are saved, if a part of us is excepted, it would have clearly said so.
Being born again equals salvation, by the way!

Salvation was wrought only in the spirit . The soul salvation is progressive . The body salvation will be the end result in immortality . For now the body is unsaved . It's still mortal . The salvation of the body is glorification and immortality

This is to say a happy birthday to you . When I first got connected to you on Nairaland about 2 or 3 years ago . Little did I know we are so connected and will be so connected . May you have the best of the day . 5 GBOSA for you.

GBOSA!
GBOSA!
GBOSA!
GBOSA!