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Topgainer:It's rather sad that people like you don't have reverence for God And his ministers . 2 Peter 2:10 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. will always invent a scripture or force an existing one to the defense of a stinkingly corrupt church business.2 Timothy 3:16 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: I said most Satan messengers also parades some glory and ordinationso ministers of God are now Satan messangers ? That's blasphemy. Succession shouldn't have lacings of greed and battles if actually it is a ministry patterned like that of Christ's Apostles.What battle ? Did Adeboye have battle to head redeemed leadership . Did Idahosa wife battle to take over leadership . Why must you see from negative perspective? The ministry of the Apostle is not a family or political party affair.James took lead of of Jerusalem church . He was the blood brother of Jesus . What do you say to that? . Don't be a critic . The ministry of the Apostles of old is not the same with the CEO ministries of your pentecostal lords today.What's the difference Aaron was not a Christian.It's same principle . Ministry is ministry . Elijah was prophet , John was prophet , agabus was prophet . James the younger brother of Jesus does not own any ministry. Priscilla and Husband do not own any ministry, they were only members of the same ministry.Everyone has ministry . You have ministry . It's your place of service. It's not about name and incoporation . And as long as you're busy criticizing others , you can't fulfill yours . Philip and daughters were also members of the ministry.What ministry? All these people were brothers and sisters, they shared all things in common. The Ants colony relationship of today's Satan ordained ministry was not there. There were no Kings and Queens, foot soldiers and slave workers relationship.As much as we all have our part to play That doesn't take away leadership . Next time you draw comparisons don't equate the highly disciplined and sacred ministry of the selfless Apostles to that of your self-serving, despicably mannered, shameless and godless pentecostal lordsAnd what church do you attend which doesn't have leadership? I will be glad to know how scriptural your structure is. Or you worship in your room only . Romans 14:12-13 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. |
Boss13:But the attacks here were directed to all pastors . Even pastors who have jobs as bankers ,oil workers ,business men and they serve in ministry voluntarily. |
annunaki2:Beautiful ! At least it wassnt farm produce . It makes it clear that tithes is not about agric . It's about income . Either it's agric , salary , business gain. Or gift items. That said abraham's tithe was not commanded by God it was of his own volution so it will fraudulent to use that as an example for church tithing which is wrongly preached as mandatory.It's a revelation of God revealed to Abraham . It started with Abraham .Abraham was not just a figure in the Bible He's our father of faith . Galatians 3:14 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Romans 4:16 . . . . but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, |
Topgainer:Is that an issue ? Is succession your concern ? That's not the yard stick to determine the call upon a ministry . It glory and and honor And success if a minister is able to raise his household in the ministry . Were Aaron's sons not prepared for ministry ? Jesus younger BROTHER JAMES took over the church in Jerusalem. PHILIP had his daughters raised in ministry Acts 21:9 9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy. Pricilla and a quilla were couples and they pastored together. Romans 16:3-5 3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus . . . . Likewise greet the church that is in their house. If a man has nobody in his household interested in ministry it's his personal failing . It's not a yardstick to determine the ordination of God upon a ministry . God will always use the next available person . My dear when you grow up you will understand that the Place you thought belonged to everybody who laboured and toiled for it to become an empire actually belongs to Papa, Mama, Papa Jnr and secret "keeping" associates.Pastor Adeboye was not the founder of Redeemed . He took over from another man. And I'm not aware. He plans to hand over to his son. So your insult upon the sacredness of ministry is carnal |
annunaki2:Money was given in bible days also . It's a choice . Did Abraham give agric produce ? |
annunaki2:What is biblical tithe and what is fraudulent tithe? |
Topgainer:You can't be asking a question and be giving the answer? I don't know if you're a christian but The Bible should define ministry for your mind. Jesus had ministry Paul had ministry likewise others. It has to do with Gods dispensation commuted to you. Colossians 4:17 17 And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it. The definition you gave is the carnal way the world see the church |
Junia:Why not ? It's an eternal principle . Just like offering , prayers ,almsgiving etc. Can you answer this question? Do you steal because you're not under the law? . Do you kill and covet ? |
Junia:Christians are not under the law but under grace |
CecyAdrian:Even Jewish Rabbis will tell you there were different tithes . This article Biblical scholars have seen the differences in these sources concerning the recipients of the tithe as due to the social background of two separate sources, each having its own applications. Throughout the Rabbinic literature, however, the sources are harmonized and the following system emerges.Find the link below :http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tithing/ |
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CecyAdrian:All" the tithes to the priest and thou shall eat the tithe " do they sound the same ? YEARLY and every THREE years " do they sound same ? 1. The Levitical, or sacred tithe (Num. 18: 21, 24). 2. The tithe of the feasts (Deut. 14:22-27). 3. The tithe for the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29). Who did Abraham eat his tithe with |
jideflash:You're not correct sir. Firstly church money belong to the ministry and not the man. Most pastors except some general overseers have their jobs and businesses . Find out from winners ,Cec , redeemed etc. The pastors are serving voluntarily. Except if such a one has need to go into full time ministry if the responsibility becomes too big to handle as a lay pastor . Even as at that the church money is not his own. He is put on an allowance like every other staff in the church . A bank manager is not the owner of the bank money he only oversee . Same goes for pastors . There is financial structure in every church . You don't dump the money into pastor pocket . Volunteers from church are involved counting and taking records and it's sent to the bank, The pastor only sees the book . And he's not the only signatory . In some churches he is not even a singnatory at all. One of the considerations in sending a man to pastor a branch most tithes is that he has a job. Most times he spend his money to run the church . Until the church is able to take care of her bill ,yet he still gives tithes and offering like everyone else. |
CecyAdrian:No you're wrong . There were 2 major tithes in Israel . Actually 3 . But majorly 2 . The first one is the yearly tithes Which goes to the priesthood esclusively every year. While the other is every 3 years . And also the tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God . Deuteronomy 14:22 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. Numbers 18:21 21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation. Leviticus 27:30 30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord. The second one is every 3 years which is shared . Deuteronomy 14:28 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: The third one is for family to cover for the feast expenses or so . I will double check on this . The tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God |
ThEy said he's recovering from cancer . Why do you choose to believe he's dying of aids |
bennyann:im in agreement with you sir. the spirit of God is the revealer of christ to blind heart . may he prevail and cause the name of christ to be sanctified in their hearts.as he opens their understanding to truth |
hi donnie |
DoctorAlien:No Jew has been a pope so far . Remember Jews won't accept unclean gentile as a messiah . He must he one of theirs . That's what we must first consider . |
DoctorAlien:Which of Pope? attention was on pope john Paul before. maybe when an isreali becomes pope i will listen to you. but for now. the jews are waiting for their messiah ,from the tribe of judah. |
DoctorAlien:I dont agree with you. The antichrist ought to be a jew by blood. not Roman. he is going to be a type of Christ from line of David. The jews can't accept a gentile dog in the name of Pope as their messiah. . . .37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all..DAN 11:37 |
MrPresident1:APOSTASY It simply makes reference to men departing from faith into wrong doctrine and apostacy SON OF PERDITION The bible didn't give name. except description . Many people fits the description IRON AND CLAY it points to a weak government which is engulfing the world. we can call it democracy power of the people compared to dictatorship of babylon |
Rilwayne001:you're right to an extent . the antichrist is supposed to be a jew . at least by origin , he may have citizenship of other european nations |
butterflylion:1 John 2:19 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. |
DoctorAlien:Thats the adventist doctrine . papacy as antichrist and sunday worship as the mark of the beas |
DoctorAlien:are you an adventist? |
Yarduni:You've not answered the question |
Yarduni:Speak from your perspective. The Bible is not for pastors .its for us all. |
Yarduni:Ok if someone had accid attack and he does plastic surgery is it a sin. |
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Your look is your responsibility. There's no natural look. If you cut your hair you've tampered with nature. If you comb it self you've tampered with nature . If you eat too much , if you eat too little . If you eat late night ,if you worry too much ,if you don't eat good food , all these will affect how you look . It's your choice . |
Ranchhoddas:im not talking about the election. one can miss it in prophecy. you get the signals by impressions ,flashes ,pictures and some times visions and audible words. even with that it takes training to interpret it accurately. thats why the bible says prophecies can be judged. but if youre talking about the collapsed building you can't blame him for not knowing. he could be one of the ways God humbles us |
SirWere:thats not true. as far back as 2011 2012? can you make reference to such.? |
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but God is not the author of confusion. If you read through all these verses and chapters, you will realize that God was repeating the same thing, tithe is tithe, there is no specific tithe.
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