₦airaland Forum

5solas:
Good!

Not exactly so!
The whole man is saved at justification/salvation/on believing.
If we realize this, the truth leaps out!

Is the body born again?

Is the mind born again?

Avoidhellfire:
YOU DON'T GET IT, what i am trying to emphasize is that marriage is between you,your partner and God. it's not about having witnesses, will these witnesses be there with you during judgement? it is about telling God who you want to marry and if you both tell God in private that you want to marry and you propose in private then you are already committed to each other. what a Christian must not believe is that there must be some sort of public ceremony before God can acknowledge that you are both married. doing so will be paganizing the marriage ceremony as some sort of sacrifice which shows that you are getting married. also I need to preach in this way because some evil people try to portray God as some sort of bully that does not want you to have sex whilst they portray satan as a good person that tolerates you having sex. this is why i have to preach the true implications of pre marital sex.
EXODUS 22:16 states that "IF A MAN SEDUCES A VIRGIN WHO IS NOT ENGAGED TO ANYONE AND HAS SEX WITH HER, HE MUST PAY THE CUSTOMARY BRIDE PRICE AND MARRY HER. Here, the bible is implying that if you engage in sex with someone you are not married to, you can still be free from sin as long as you marry that person. also you need to know that unlike adultery the Bible did not define what fornication means. if you do a research on the meaning of fornication you will discover that the word we know as fornication and which people believe to mean premarital sex may mean something else like some other form of sexual immorality. a dictionary definition is not reliable since the bible did not define what fornication means. but having said this and as a general rule it is advised that Christians avoid premarital sex as they don't know if they will marry that person or not.
......so please tell me what fornication means since you ignorantly disagree with the truth i have told.

Can you explain from scriptures

MuttleyLaff:
https://s32.postimg.org/m6plb8iz9/Wolf_In_Sheeps_Clothing.jpg

SMH.
To what end will my definition of a false prophet serve you, hmm?

OK, to placate you, it is one who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration.
The bible believes that in the end times, they come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
- 2 Timothy 4:3 NIV

So how does he fit into your definition ?

Denko2721987:
Clamping down? Interesting.. I have to grab a copy of this book before it is completely annihilated.. I guess Amazon sells it..

Yes , I heard it's the hottest and highest book on demand on Amazon .

I have been trying to get the book to read . An ex Muslim convert sent me the video on WhatsApp. And told me that the book is an eye opener for every Muslim . He used the language "WE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED , WE HAVE BEEN BRAIN WASHED". That why Islamic nations are clamping down on the book . It spoke volume about the lies and inconsistencies .

Supnaija:
Apocalypse is coming soon. Everyone beware. Go into your room and start prayers. The World Will Come To An End On July 29. Jesus is coming.

If you're a christian . You should rather read the bible than following false prediction. The bible is more current than tomorrow news paper . Blueprints of The endtime events are all outlined in the bible . So the world can't end as you claimed .

The next major event that will hit the world is the catching up of the Christians called "the rapture ".This will usher in the emergence of the Antichrist who will rule the world . Those who would be left behind will experience tribulation which will last for 7Yrs only . After which Second coming of christ will take place . the antichrist system will be destroyed. Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit .

Christ will make his capital in Isreal we whom would come with him from heaven will reign with him for a thousand years on earth. After whic Satan will be released for a short time . He will prepare an army . This will lead to the final battle between the force of good a devil light and darkness.

The final judgement will take place . A new heaven and a new earth will be made manifest . Study the book of revelation for more details .

So if you have this understanding, you can't be moved by these strange predictions which sometime may have logical calculations but contrary to the bible .

Supnaija:
"The falsest" prophet

And what makes him false

Supnaija:
Look at TB Joshua

That's a prophet

musicwriter:
Because they realized their G.O is just a businessman.

Go and ask the ex drug addict who has been delivered , the executive cultist who had been saved , the barren for 10 Yrs now a mother through the ministry of the pastor that they should join you to loot the church. Your suggestive post can't stand hearing. It's teenager fantasy

YOU BE SMALL PIKIN? Why would Christians become sacrilegious

Avoidhellfire:
traditionally a public wedding may be appropriate and woman being given to you by her parents may be appropriate but you need to realize that marriage is between you, your partner and God.

A woman does not give herself . She is given to a man. That's how God ordains it . It's not just two people .

[color=Purple]Jeremiah 29:6 (KJV)
Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished.[/color]

God is your most important witness. also there are some situations where a public wedding and a woman being given to you may not be possible. for example what if the bride and groom are not on speaking terms with their family and they don't want to inform their family of the marriage and so they both choose to do a private wedding? its not about who sees you get married because the people are just human beings, its God that matters

If they have such issue the wedding cannot hold.

Avoidhellfire:
IS PREMARITAL SEX A SIN?
You may be surprised to know that the answer to this question could be yes and it could be a no. premarital sex can be a sin if you do not end up marrying that person, but if you marry the person then it may not be a sin. When people say “premarital sex”, are they trying to say that it is only when you have a wedding ceremony that you can engage in sex? What if I choose not to do a wedding ceremony instead I choose to exchange vows with my partner in our private room without the knowledge of anyone and I end up engaging in sex with my wife, should I be accused of premarital sex since I did not have a public wedding ceremony? This is why premarital sex may not be a sin if you end up marrying that person, but what you must not do and I repeat what you must not do is to leave that person after you have had sex with them, if you do you will be sexual immoral.

I may not agree with some of the things you wrote . Until you're married you're not married. Sex without the marriage contract is fornication. So two people secretly agree to be husband and wife is not marriage . There has to be witnesses . A woman has to be given to you . Living as husband and wife without legally marrying is cohabitation and Jesus made it clear that cohabitation is not marriage

John 4:18 (KJV)
For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

John 4:17 (Living Bible, The - TLB)
"But I'm not married," the woman replied.
"All too true!" Jesus said. "For you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now."


So there is a difference between the one you're married to and the one you're living with.

Niflheim:
@OP,
Let's not jump to hasty conclusions now!!! We are yet to address the following issues/problems in your analysis!!!

1."The earth became formless"..............But the Earth gets it's near spherical shape(it's actually an oblate spheroid) from the pull of gravity on all sides!!! If it was formless, are you trying to say that your god also destroyed "GRAVITY"?

2."And empty"....................Define "an empty Earth"? What does that even mean? No sand? No water? The Earth became a gas planet like "Saturn"? What of the molten lava within the Eath's core? Where did it all go?

3."Leaving the Earth devoid of life"............................NOT POSSIBLE!!! If you know a bit about bacteria collectively known as 'The Extremophiles', you will know that they can easily survive in volcanic regions!!!

4.If there was truely darkness over the face of the Earth, it would have to have come from clouds of ash, blocking out sunlight!!! Remember that the sun is far older than the Earth, so why does the bible talk about "god" creating a 'new sun' in Genesis? What happened to the old one? Was it NEPA that was contracted to take away it's light?

Yes The destruction of the pre adamite world affected the then earth and the Solar system .

corpROYAL:
I just want my pastor, Rev and Bishop in the house to answer this question. It somehow confusing. l am a business man and l am thinking to venture into this business and l am kind of thinking that selling things like this is if l am promoting evil handiwork because some are worshiping all this somewhere. ln another way round work it work. what of people working in the hotel, Guinness, Guilder, star, 33, Tobacco company, people selling cigarette, indian hem (Igboo) etc.

l am a Bible scholar though... so sincere comments are needed.

let discuss this. l need candid contributions. abusive words are not welcome.

Art and crafts sale is just business . If anyone is foolish enough to worship what you sold that's his business .

But if someone contracts you to carve an image in a shrine for worship . That will violate your conscience ,

MuttleyLaff:
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many
- Matthew 24:11 KJV

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
- Matthew 24:24 KJV

How do you define a false prophet .

DeCleff:
You are a lady and will get married one day and you will experience what Anita went through.

You will only see your husband about 4 times in 7 years

Your kids will grow without their father around them

They will plead and reject daddy's birthday gifts just because they want to see their dad.

This is trash . You should have heard the kids talk about their dad saying he's the Best father in the world . They never spoke negatively about their dad . They are best of friends .The eldest is over 20 years old and mature enough to know life .if she could speak so well openly about her dad . What further inside information do we need ? Bloggers And haters report?

lordnicklaus:
Hellow fellow bible lovers. The bible seems to speak of a pre-adamic world, much like the dinosaur age. This is based on my re-translation of Genesis 1:1-2 from the Hebrew text which I would now quote.

"Bereshit bara Elohim et hashmayim ve'et haarets. We'haarets hayah tohu ve'bohu ve'khoshek al p'niy tehom ve'haruakh Elohim m'rakhpet al p'niy hamayim"

You're correct . The NIV foot note also says the earth possibly became void and empty.

Other portions of the bible also lets us know that the earth was not created empty or void .

Isaiah 45:18 (KJV Strong's)
For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens;
God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it,
he created it not in vain

The word "VAIN" means void same Hebrew word "tohu" he didn't create it void

@op
You obviously quote the pastor out of context . No pastor can say you shouldn't help the poor. Helping the poor is integral part of Christianity .
His emphasis was on the conflict of borrowing and not paying back . To avoid that sign a contract . It's common sense . To avoid being a victim of wicked man . Because some borrow without hope to pay back .

Psalms 37:21 (KJV Strong's)
The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again. . .

shadeyinka:
An argument I hear often amongst gays is that they were born that way. Look in nature, is there any animal whos sexual preference is of the same sex?

How come its only among human beings we see people claiming an unnatural sexial preference.

If gays are born gay, are kleptomaniacs born kleptomaniac? You apprehend a kleptomaniac stealing in the market, would he be released if his argument was "I was born a kleptomaniac?"

In the name of civilization, we throw sound reasoning out of the window.

I submit the question again, Nairalanders -If gays are born gay, are kleptomaniacs born kleptomaniac?

Very good point. It's a demon responsible for all these unnatural lifestyle .

ebiagtales:
You are quoting from the book of Peter who is a murderer himself. That guy killed Ananias and Sapphira.

How did he kill

ebiagtales:
But he said it as if he justifies it. And in fact he was using that example to refer to himself. Now let's analyse better. Quote me a king during Jesus time who killed someone because the person wasn't able to make gain from the money he gave him.

Respect for human right was minimal those days . A king can kill at will . John the Baptist was be headed just at the request of a dancing girl who made the king happy.

Jesus won't kill people and won't support killing of people

2 Peter 3:9
. . .he is not willing that any should perish, and he is giving more time for sinners to repent.

We should not miss the point of the illustration .

He used the the lifestyles of his day to illustrate . Kings used to go for expeditions to conquer lands and execute Rebels . If I use killing Gboko haram as illustration of justice does not mean I believe in killing . The major point is "justice". In heaven non will be killed killed neither in hell. But justice and judgement of God . Will still be done without killing

Supnaija:
No na only bad news e dey prophesy

90% of Bible prophecies sounded bad . Prophets give warnings , they sound alarm from the place of watch

Tolexander:
That is very good!

every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God [granted by His permission and sanction], and those which exist have been put in place by God. Roman 13:1 (AMP)

Since all governing authority is granted by His permission and sanction and Offerings and Tithes belong to God. Logically Offerings and Tithes are meant to be given to the governing authority, Government!

Not when the so called government is contrary to God .

Acts 4:18-20
And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

Tolexander:
That is very good!

Since all governing authority is granted by His permission and sanction and Offerings and Tithes belong to God. Logically Offerings and Tithes are meant to be given to the governing authority, Government!

Not when the so called government is contrary to God .

Acts 4:18-20
And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

Tolexander:
That is very good!

Since all governing authority is granted by His permission and sanction and Offerings and Tithes belong to God. Logically Offerings and Tithes are meant to be given to the governing authority, Government!

Not when the so called government is contrary to God .

It doesn't . When you play music it's the radio that is singing not you

joseph1013:
. It did say that the Agency ordered the arrest of the Jerry-curl wearing entertainer. .

Are you a child ? So why has he not been arrested since the 2010 or 2011 ? He has been going in and out of South Africa .

Scholar8200:
But what if the 'christian refuses to admit his sin or does so with no purpose of heart to avoid same (2 Corinth 7: 11,10)? Does he remain saved?

I don't think he is still a Christian . No child of God want to live in sin. Such as you mentioned already has his conscience seared . He no longer has conscience towards God. It's a man who has lost his salvation that can be like that.

kevoh:
@Joseph1013 seems this happened back in 2011 or so but still has more than enough juice to expose the dangers these so called faith healers pose.

CC petra1 a.k.a Joagbaje. What sayest thou?

It's all lies . As I said above . The First Lady is now an active member of CEC . The president also attends some of our programmes

joseph1013:
[b]SOUTH AFRICA TAKES AN IMPORTANT STEP

South Africa’s Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has banned the Christ Embassy church from airing its claims of faith healing following a complaint from the Treatment Action Campaign (TAC).

The Treatment Action Campaign (TAC) advocates for increased access to treatment, care and support services for people living with HIV and campaigns to reduce new HIV infections.

TAC spokesperson Nathan Geffen said on Thursday that the claims were aired during the church’s regular early morning slot on e.tv on Sundays.

He said the church claimed to use faith healing to treat several diseases, including heart disease, and had run adverts on its website claiming to treat HIV/Aids.

“Quackery of this nature is not merely misleading. It is life-destroying,” he said.

He said TAC knew of a woman infected with extreme drug resistant TB who stopped taking her medication because she believed the church had cured her, and died, after infecting her own children with the disease.

Geffen also criticised e.tv for continuing to run Christ Embassy programming even after it was alerted to TAC’s concerns.[/b]

It's all lies and propaganda especially by envious Nigerian ministers . We read manner of such lies such as SOUTH AFRICA HAS BANNED PASTOR CHRIS OR ORDER HIS ARREST FOR THIS AND THAT . They are all propaganda .. It sold for a moment but got overtaken with truth. Members of the first family got healed . The president wrote personal letter to pastor chris .and one of the things he said was .THANK YOU FOR HEALING OUR NATION .

Firstly the First Lady is now a leader in CEC . She has been to Nigeria many times to attend partner conference . I'm sure she will be here again this year . The president of South Africa attends pastor chris programmes . He was in the last crusade . What more proof do we need .

If someone tells you that The shirt you're wearing was not made by man but it existed by itself . What will be your response?