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debosky: with Malachi 3:8-10 being the tagline, we all know what the 'discussion' is going to be about. Anti-tithers stay out.

Abi o

danwo: ^^^^


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0oKrjxpeJw

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Posting#Starting_a_new_poll

I know the steps outlined in the video. Just can't seem to find the add/create poll button/link. I think it may have been disabled or smth.

Its okay anyway. Thanks!

bump^^^

Pastor Kun: @Petres007
Great work, keep it up. I would like to suggest you set up a poll where NL members can indicate if they wld be attending, this can help in organising the venue and planning for item number 7

I give up. I know I've done it before but for the life of me can't remember how to setup a poll. Could use some help.

JeSoul: Now you are talking. Front seats aren't that necessary though, I prefer luxury suites in the balcony. Goshen and co can manage cabin bisquits & pure water, no refreshments for non-tithers.

This is unrighteousness!

JeSoul: So...will you be speaking at the event?

I should

JeSoul: It may not be a bad idea to record, youtube and paste here

Don't know about plans for smth like this o. Would sure be a good idea sha

bump^

JeSoul: Agent dorbu ho sevin,
just make sure pounded yam and egusi is being served and I'll be on the next flight. Also make sure there's a bucket full of rotten tomatoes beside my seat so I can fire anybody that dare to oppose tithe...how is a WMOG supposed to chop?

Ah! Madam mod! Shebi na you... no be only pDiddy & egusi soup o. . . we go also arrange driver and front seats for your royal highness and escorts cohorts

Come, dis one wey una don dey mention item #7, egusi/pounded yam, chips & chicken and even cabin biscuits. . . hmmm... I no fit shout o

Goshen360: ^^^
I don repent for the other thread ooooooo. Go check it out.

I just see am now. . .

bump ^

Goshen360: Na as dem open my yansh for that thread na eim I run comot from there becuase that guy "truthislight" just dey follow me instead make him dey follow Jesus or Apostle Paul. Na eim I say make I run comot there only to come jam "danwo" for here again......wetin I go do now, na to pick race comot here....."Pastor Kun" come enter this thread again even I don see "Zikky" here too on standby. I no think say my kind of new pro-tithe converts fit challenge ALL this anti-tithes GIANTS. Except say I will need backup from [b]"Image123" and "Olaadegbu" with other pro-tithers not forgetting to mention "Joagbaje" and "Snowwy"[/b].

You go dey disappointed if you dey wait backup from those guys o. . . with all the hard feelings wey dey between una over this topic. . . like when Saul first convert to Christianity, dem go doubt your conversion tyre

Goshen360: @ OP, wish am there but can't since am now a new convert for tithe.....a pro-tither . I for come rock the floor small. Anyway, update or hint us after the event. Thank you.

Yeah, I just read through your hilarious "new tithing convert thread"

Woulda been nice to have you around o! No wahala

Zikkyy: Sound like cabin biscuit to me. You no serious ooh

Abi na... make I no go talk say dem go share chicken & chips na. . . dat day, the hall go just full enter main road. . . you go think say na bible everybody find come true, true

danwo: @petres_007

Hi, greetings . . .

Why is Malachi 3:8-10 the flyer's scripture of choice

and/or what is the reason Malachi 3:8-10 was the flyer's scripture of choice?

- drew the short straw?

Also which Malachi 3:8-10 translation is referenced here?

Nna mehn! See JAMB questions!!

I said no debates here na!

My take is that Malachi 3:8-10 is the Church's chair passage for the tithing teaching.

Zikkyy: Okay just seeing the venue now. Some peeps fit show if you have item 7 on the agenda. e no easy

Item #7 should be on the menu. . . not a feast sha. . . probably just something to nibble.

Zikkyy: Forget it. Don't expect to see a pro-tither at the event. What will they be doing there? Probably be spending their Saturday sourcing their tithe for Sunday. Consider holding a press briefing instead.

LOL

@everyone. . .

I'd like to appeal to you not to post any arguments for or against tithing in this thread. There's a bunch of threads already for that. I'd like this to remain as just the invite it is. Only related comments please. Thanks!

I strongly urge those of us on this sub-forum living in or around Lagos who're not booked for that Saturday morning/early afternoon to consider attending.

I've been around here a while, long enough to know that tithing has been a major point of fierce debates. Lots of religion section big wigs both for and against Christian tithing. I'm hoping some of us here (both for and against) would be so kind as to attend this bible discussion meeting, bringing their "strong reasons" (Is 41:21 paraphrase) with them.

Hello everyone!

Its been a while since I posted anything here o!

This is just to invite those of us interested and able to attend a bible-based discussion focusing on the Tithing Ordinance & Christianity. I've attached the JPEG flyer but here's the details just in case (copy & paste):

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Bible Expose Edition 6 comes up this Saturday, 15th September, 2012!

We continue with our series on the old & new covenants. Only this time we'll be focusing on the issue of TITHING and Christianity! Ensure you bring your friends along and be there on time! It promises to be very revealing & thorough!

God bless you!

Time: 10am PROMPT (no African time, as usual)

Venue: [/b]Finicky Fastfood (Function Hall), beside Oando Filling Station, Iwaya Road
Onike, Yaba, Lagos.

[b]Date: Saturday 15th September, 2012

Facebook page - https://www./bibleexpose

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I'm not surprised its come to this. They're just moving a little faster than I thought.

Quite a lot of photos indeed!

Had to just scroll all the way down to find posts to read.

There's still more photos here on the Event Diary site - http://eventdiaryint.com/2012/08/05/uti-nwachukwu-rocks-30/

Just to announce that we still need a pair of hands fitting this description but on a full time basis. Please get in touch if you fit the bill and are interested.

Kindly share with contacts whom you believe, fit the bill and may be interested, if you yourself don't.

Thanks!

2buff: Do you agree that a disease is a demonic affliction?

Oh, come on

Are you saying that every disease is a demonic affliction? You didn't qualify your statement o! e.g. Eczema is a skin disease. Is it demonically afflicted too?

This is of course, not saying that demons, with God's permission, aren't capable of such. Just saying you should not make such sweeping statements.

Now my question to all those of you advocating the possibility of Christians being possessed by demons is: do you have any idea who the Holy Spirit is?

I doubt.

buzugee: ran away lol

Oh, I get it now

But I don't think that was enough to make the mighty JoeAgbaje "skedaddle" o. I'm sure when he's got time he'll come and explain it better to us.

2buff: All Joe was saying is exactly what I said.
Christians who by one way or another engage in sin give (in some form) legal foothold to demonic influences in their lives.
It is by repenting (truly, not just by mouth) of these sins and thus coming under the blood yet again that totally anulls whatever legalistic foothold the enemy had taken on that person's life and you then have every right to command them packing.

But depending on several factors, some fasting (putting off of flesh to take on a more frightful spiritual stature) might be necessary like Jesus said.
The problem again, is that most Christians are lazy or perish for lack of knowledge.

You see, this is the kind of unbiblical teaching always offered as explanation. I dare say there is absolutely no scriptural basis for this notion that sin opens up the Christian to demon possession.

The Corinthian church was an excellent example. They had it wrong on so many fronts, including sinning and openly condoning outrageous sins etc. The Apostle Paul rebukes and corrects them but never even hints at possible demon possession because of their actions.

If you have any biblical examples of Christians sinning and becoming infested with demons or even being so much as warned of demon possession, please post them here and lets look at them together.

buzugee: Joagbaje done skedaddled

What does that mean?

Joagbaje: A christian cannot be possessed of demons, but he can be demonized[color=#990000][/color] , he opens the door to the enemy.

Still waiting for JoeAgbaje to clear this up.

Goshen360: To believe and to have the Holy Spirit are two different things.

Sir,

I don't believe this one bit. And just as expected, you cited the pillar for this teaching - Verse 2 of Acts 19

Goshen360: "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" he asked them. "No," they replied, "we haven't even heard that there is a Holy Spirit." Acts 19:2 (NLT)

Here's the account with verse 2 in its proper context:

1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples.

2 And he said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" And they said, "No, we have never even heard that there is a Holy Spirit."

3 And he said, "Into what then were you baptized?" They said, "Into John's baptism."

4 And Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus."

5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.

- Acts 19:1 - 6 (RSV)

The passage tells us why these "disciples" needed a "second" work of grace - all they had was John's message of repentance. Therefore verse 2 (or verse 6 for that matter) cannot be used as evidence that a person first comes to the Lord, and then has to wait for the infilling of the Holy Ghost.

* I really don't want us to derail this thread and would be open to discussing this particular interesting topic sometime later, God willing.

Joagbaje: A christian cannot be possessed of demons, but he can be demonized , he opens the door to the enemy.

Sir,

First you say a Christian cannot be possessed of demons. Then you say he can be demonized. Thats an outright contradiction to me. Kindly clarify.

Secondly, you say a Christian can "open the door to the enemy". If you ask me, I'd say there isn't a single biblical example of this. I acknowledge however, that you could know of one or two I don't. Please state them here.

Goshen360: I have always questioned many activities in the body of Christ in the light of the word of God. One of such are those who claim to be called into deliverance ministry and believers (who claim to have been in-dwelled by the Holy Spirit) attending deliverance ministry year in and out but are still bound by demons.

So the question is, AFTER a man be in Christ, say genuinely be in Christ and Spirit filled, can such person still be possessed by demon(s)? Am not talking about not putting the flesh under subjection that sometimes, leads to sin of a believer but am talking about Holy Ghost sanctified and filled believer/Christian still being possessed by demons. How true is this? Kindly prove your points with scriptures please.

Interesting topic there, sir!

Here's how I normally start out discussing topics like this. First I state my position (which I firmly believe is the bible's and leaves no room for private opinions or interpretations), then I state why I've taken up this position regarding this matter.

My position - Christians cannot have demons. The Holy Spirit and demons cannot be in a particular vessel at the same time.

Scripture backup - well, there are no biblical examples of a demon-possessed Christian. None that I know of at least. I'd be happy to be pointed to one or two.


* Just as an aside: abeg, what's the meaning of the term "spirit-filled Christian"? Isn't that tautology (make una no vex o, I no know book so well)? My point is; can there be a Christian not filled with the Spirit? Isn't the promise of the Spirit the major privilege believers under the new have that those under the old didn't? Doesn't the scripture say "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" (Rom 8:9)?

christemmbassey: I am Christ's EMM BASSEY (EMMANUEL BASSEY) I LOVE N RESPECT PASTOR Chris Oyakhilome and attend Christ Embassy (note d dif.) but that v nothing to do with d truth about tithe. If u know d truth....jn8:32.

That's definitely a first for me

christemmbassey: My dear pastor who r u to judge another man's servant? I LOVE N RESPECT PASTOR CHRIS, How? D love of God shed abroad in my Heart by d Holy Spirit. Why? He is d world pastor n my elder brother.l

@christemmbassey,

Having found out Chris is wrong on such an important aspect of his theology, don't you think you should take a second look at everything else he teaches too?

Enigma: You too see am so, my brother?

Anyway, greetings oh!

Yes o. . . its really sad. Lots of new threads but very little quality or meaningful discussions.

^btw: Howdy, sir? I throway salute o!

JeSoul: Suprised to see agent 007 make a rare appearance .

Hi there Jesoul

Been around o. . . its just lots of work and personal commitments. Not to mention this section, which really is 99% Nairaland for me, is no longer what it used to be.

Whew!

Its been such a long journey reading through this thread all the way from page 1. Decided to read through every post when I first skimmed through & realised it would be @Image speaking in favour of Christian tithing. . . I had such high hopes I'd find some valid arguments for Christians tithing here